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Between 2022-04-22 00:00:00Z and 2022-04-23 00:00:00Z

Hello

can anyone help me? How do I put this heart in the game?

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kio

ez map

nice pfp

some one has @ᶰ°Konͧsti phone number? XDD

69420666

Arne

some one has @ᶰ°Konͧsti phone number? XDD

Why would anyone wanna call this pepega

01:17

He is afk

Meekrioz

Why would anyone wanna call this pepega

He is afk because he is answering the phone

Matheus

Hello

can anyone help me? How do I put this heart in the game?

check Game layer, towards the bottom

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02:11

in the editor

@murpi may i ask u Something on dms

Meekrioz

He is afk

no i wasnt

04:11

I was asleep

04:11

afk

so afk then

Broso56

nice pfp

Thx

Hey guys How does Teeworlds differ from DDNet?

07:07

Ok

♑SkullGamer205✝ (玩家的头骨-205)

Hey guys How does Teeworlds differ from DDNet?

And what is better?

Skullgamer teeworlds is original made game and ddnet is “mod” or other client

07:08

Idk now

07:09

Ddnet is better fashoo

Is there a dm or something from the original teeworlds in ddnet?

yes

07:25

if you go to the internet tab

♑SkullGamer205✝ (玩家的头骨-205)

And what is better?

DDnet is a special client to play a specific mod called DDrace. Since it becomes the most played mod, it’s a client used by the player’s majority. It add some features for esthetics or playability. It’s built to increase teewolrds possibilities and skill but for old players it can be seen as a cheat client (since some features literally make the game easier)

I don't think there really are any players that consider DDNet a cheat client

In the past, I remember playing with people who had this mind

08:16

But maybe now there are not remaining

08:17

I can understand theirs views, in a way the hookline can be considered as a cheat

08:19

I remember old times, when you needed to use your gun to hook through edge justatest

justatest

justatest

1

Thats why the most evil kind of mappers were those who mapped parts with hookable blocks

5

banhammer

6

08:39

peperage

So true horrible feeling cammostripes

cammostripes

ƒirewave

I remember old times, when you needed to use your gun to hook through edge justatest

justatest

People considered entities a cheat too back then

Omg Learath2

09:06

Big fan

hisnail

twinbop

2

Learath2

People considered entities a cheat too back then

I used entities before DDNet existed in old DDRace client to cheat in infection cuz there were often secret Tunnels and people (like Me) running around with no name and were hard to find Ytrolltrollcrazyinsane

Ytrolltrollcrazyinsane

Oh yeah, I remember the tunnel trend, it even had cropped up in ddrace maps

Learath2

Oh yeah, I remember the tunnel trend, it even had cropped up in ddrace maps

Infection warehouse best map. Full of kill Tunnels u could hide in

I miss catch16

09:15

feelsbadman

Playing catch16 with entities on 0.5

i also miss the Zombie mod where you have to fight with 4 tees against zombie bot waves

09:19

feelsbadman

Isn't it still there?

09:19

Just with another name

09:19

The monster thing

There are different ones

09:20

I think the one i mean even is on 0.5

There were still servers for it on 0.5 like a year ago last time i checked

09:21

Dont think it ever got ported to 0.6 (edited)

https://youtu.be/_C8sKTjEo7g

Teeworld Gameplay Zombies!!!

09:24

that's what i meant

Silex

I miss catch16

Is it the mod that every single tee represents a different color, and you go with laser catch people for your team?

i remember that yoooo

09:25

that was cool

09:25

but i dont think its that

09:25

unless im thinking of a newer version

Tarzan

Is it the mod that every single tee represents a different color, and you go with laser catch people for your team?

Yes, but wasn't it with hammer? (edited)

09:27

Ah maybe you are right

Learath2

People considered entities a cheat too back then

Haha yes, I remember on Mario map infected using tubes with Teewolrds gamer and people complaining about it kek

kek

you can still play it

09:28

its around

The best mod was Ghost, sadly never became popular

no one is on it and i think it goes by another name

ᶰ°Konͧsti

The best mod was Ghost, sadly never became popular

Well then it was shit i guess greenthing

greenthing

Xin

Playing catch16 with entities on 0.5

Deserves a big ban angry

angry

ƒirewave

Haha yes, I remember on Mario map infected using tubes with Teewolrds gamer and people complaining about it kek

kek

mario map classic

Silex

Well then it was shit i guess greenthing

greenthing

no, there were no servers cuz 0.6 came right after

there is also the minecraft map

09:30

old infection was so fun

1

️

Good old vibes haha

I am seriously deluded. Is it possible to play DDNet servers using the original Teeworlds In DDNET, there are modes from Teeworlds (pvp, deathmatch, zombie e.t.c) or are there only co-op passing levels? I can't choose between DDNet and Teeworlds.

current day infeciton with classes is boring

09:30

the true skillz was the hammer laser wall

2

The original set of block mods were quite fun. fstd's Tournament mod, josh's BBM and eeeee's ddwar were all actually fun block mods (edited)

1

ƒirewave

Deserves a big ban angry

angry

People would kick you for it very quickly dogkek

dogkek

kek

1

♑SkullGamer205✝ (玩家的头骨-205)

I am seriously deluded. Is it possible to play DDNet servers using the original Teeworlds In DDNET, there are modes from Teeworlds (pvp, deathmatch, zombie e.t.c) or are there only co-op passing levels? I can't choose between DDNet and Teeworlds.

yes you can play everything on both i believe

09:31

but ddnet has more features

Ommmmg yeees I remember the block tournament map

https://github.com/edg-l/war3

GitHub - edg-l/war3: Teeworlds War3 Mod

Teeworlds War3 Mod. Contribute to edg-l/war3 development by creating an account on GitHub.

09:31

epic

09:31

i saved it

there was red and blue team and blue Where the ghosts who had to hammer red team players. U couldnt see the ghosts until they were near or hammered but u could hear them justatest

justatest

goofball

but ddnet has more features

And what for example?

ᶰ°Konͧsti

there was red and blue team and blue Where the ghosts who had to hammer red team players. U couldnt see the ghosts until they were near or hammered but u could hear them justatest

justatest

sounds a bit like catch16 but way worse

ᶰ°Konͧsti

there was red and blue team and blue Where the ghosts who had to hammer red team players. U couldnt see the ghosts until they were near or hammered but u could hear them justatest

justatest

Looks crazy, I’m sad to never heard about it

♑SkullGamer205✝ (玩家的头骨-205)

And what for example?

hookline, entities, more controls

09:33

your screen does not shake when you hold something in freeze

ᶰ°Konͧsti

there was red and blue team and blue Where the ghosts who had to hammer red team players. U couldnt see the ghosts until they were near or hammered but u could hear them justatest

justatest

oh

09:33

i actually hosted that

goofball

hookline, entities, more controls

You forget all dummies stuff, it was something crazy when I discovered ddnet for the first time (edited)

♑SkullGamer205✝ (玩家的头骨-205)

And what for example?

Well the ddnet client has a modern gl33 and vk renderer which has much better performance, you can zoom in/out, there are a lot of customization options when it comes to UI

i think its called ghost mod or smth

09:34

@ᶰ°Konͧsti https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5973

[MOD] Ghost (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum

[MOD] Ghost (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

Learath2

Well the ddnet client has a modern gl33 and vk renderer which has much better performance, you can zoom in/out, there are a lot of customization options when it comes to UI

Good

ƒirewave

You forget all dummies stuff, it was something crazy when I discovered ddnet for the first time (edited)

im not gonna list everything i know

Silex

sounds a bit like catch16 but way worse

Catch16 is just zcatch with teams justatest

justatest

goofball

im not gonna list everything i know

Do it or you don’t help trollet

trollet

plus you wont use a dummy in dm or whatever

Learath2

Well the ddnet client has a modern gl33 and vk renderer which has much better performance, you can zoom in/out, there are a lot of customization options when it comes to UI

But I'm still wondering about the game modes. PvP, Deathmatch . Is it still left in DDNet?

yes

Anyway @♑SkullGamer205✝ (玩家的头骨-205) you won’t lose anything with ddnet unless your soul

♑SkullGamer205✝ (玩家的头骨-205)

But I'm still wondering about the game modes. PvP, Deathmatch . Is it still left in DDNet?

go on internet when on ddnet client

goofball

yes

Wow. It's so good

if you have any questions then ask bencie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dq1BpvjWEE

Teeworlds Goresworld clientmod

09:36

best client

09:36

change my mind

tf bro lol

bloody tees

goofball

go on internet when on ddnet client

I'll come by today. I'm a little busy right now. I was even curious . Find such modes in DDNet

what is suprising about it

Ryozuki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dq1BpvjWEE

what is going on with the feet

09:38

dislocated

wtf

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10:52

Bruh

goofball

no one is on it and i think it goes by another name

U know the new name of it?

zEsc?

1 (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Astral|Crying🌙

wtf

@deen

no u

hi deen

11:32

deen

who is deen?

destroyed230

who is deen?

CEO of ddnet

what is CEO?

destroyed230

what is CEO?

The chief executive officer (CEO)

thx

Anyone want to play ictf?

Lexin

U know the new name of it?

errr

13:29

i really think i know it

13:29

but i dont

Does anyone else remember the zcatch mode where everyone had their own color at the start and u shot others so they would become your color so u would build a color team and last remaining color wins? I miss it. Was one of my fav modes back in the day

mode was called catch16

Ah thats nice. But it doesnt exist anymore does it?

a server is online even

Woow

13:52

Nice

13:52

Didnt know

i think everyone just stopped playing it

Bring it back to life YEP

YEP

it had a tournament recently

13:54

like a few months ago

Omg why didnt i hear of it feelsbadman

feelsbadman

(edited)

why dont we have catch 16 and the 2v2 arena on ddnet?

2

cus ur mid

Im 'corneum

why dont we have catch 16 and the 2v2 arena on ddnet?

Ryozuki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dq1BpvjWEE

how much ketchup do these tees have !!!

Can I post some of my drawings in #off-topic ?

@Іван Верба Привет. Разблокируй меня, пожалуйста.

Kebre

Can I post some of my drawings in #off-topic ?

Go ahead!

Okay !

@Plant go send @David*°Villa ur r1 video justatest

justatest

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i can only imagine what itd be like if plant made a map

It can't post idk why

15:22

Nah doesn't work

15:22

It says my drawings are explicit content poggers

poggers

nouis

how i do this

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Drag from top right

HMPIWD

@Іван Верба Привет. Разблокируй меня, пожалуйста.

@Іван Верба Ты тут? Прочитай сообщение пж.

english only @HMPIWD. go to #off-topic if you want to speak russian

Ok

16:14

sry

ᶰ°Konͧsti

@Plant go send @David*°Villa ur r1 video justatest

justatest

thats total disrespect, no ? :D

bru i got banned but i don't use any clients

16:23

rip me

Plant

thats total disrespect, no ? :D

I will edit some fails in the clip, so you're just having Rank 2 again

unban please

ping bencie or dm him if you have any problems (edited)

17:33

or questions

17:33

or anything

ah aight ty

bencie will give it to you justatest

justatest

gigachad

#off-topic

goofball

ping bencie or dm him if you have any problems (edited)

Yeah right, ping me for financial, emotional, informational support. I'm also able to do any service, so if you need a plumber or a Hitman then hmu

@bencie

yes

Already regretting that message justatest

justatest

I need something fro m you

18:11

Frim*

18:11

From* fuck

18:12

@bencie do you want to know what it is?

deez nuts?

Almost

aPES_WeirdLeave

Plant

thats total disrespect, no ? :D

no its because there are 4 rank 1 of this map on youtube over the years :P

Full servor on Stereotype 4, another proof that oldschool best

bencie

Yeah right, ping me for financial, emotional, informational support. I'm also able to do any service, so if you need a plumber or a Hitman then hmu

A hitman would be nice

pepeH

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@Blade

Hey, me and my friends finished as the wrong name! we somehow ended up being called Rasputin and many other names. could the ranks go to our "normal" names?

20:01

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20:03

My friend called IamTheR wants his finish on ekstdo!

20:04

only ekstdo wants his finish ^^

do map again

20:29

oh btw while someone is looking at this, i accidentally finished every insane map with the wrong name

troll

3

20:29

pls transfer coradax's ranks to MaCRoYale

Steinchen

Hey, me and my friends finished as the wrong name! we somehow ended up being called Rasputin and many other names. could the ranks go to our "normal" names?

was your rank moved yet? I don't see any finishes with name IamTheR

murpi

was your rank moved yet? I don't see any finishes with name IamTheR

hey! his name was something with Tizia, maybe IamTheTizia

20:42

i forgot that, sorry!

murpi

was your rank moved yet? I don't see any finishes with name IamTheR

bro that's a thing? should've told me when i finished many long maps before with different name on accident xd

If it's by accident then I am fine with moving ranks, but if you're using fake names on purpose to e.g avoid people from recognizing you then no (edited)

It was this: IamTheRealTizia

20:46

We were just joking around, didn't mean to avoid anybody ^^

@Steinchen I'll DM you

i was also joking around with the wrong name and gave coradax r1 on grim reaper

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Understable have a nice day

and who cares about "first video" like nobody looks at timestamps of videos anyways

louis

and who cares about "first video" like nobody looks at timestamps of videos anyways

if its from a og yes

it's anti-FOSS to put limits on what users can see, if the data exists and it's eventually visible anyway

bruh

21:51

thats different

pre 2011 videos are just something else bruh

unless there is an obvious security reason for it

21:52

which there isnt

2013*

thats not what foss is

21:52

lol

i believe it's anti-FOSS sorry

thats like screenrecording everyone's window when they use foss software

FOSS is the 4 freedoms i mentioned

it doesn't respect users

and uploading it

user ethics then (edited)

21:52

they're normally correlated i didnt think i needed more than that

idk sounds like the same type of argument ppl use when they say "omg first amendment" on private platforms

literally how

dont bring american stuff here bruh

im traveling

just cause the ideas of foss are similar to your argument for public demos

21:53

doesn't mean they coexist in every form

i dont even know what the first amendment is

21:53

BASED

murpi

im traveling

where?

free speech

louis

idk sounds like the same type of argument ppl use when they say "omg first amendment" on private platforms

you made this unusable as an argument when you said "private"

if 2 people are trying for r1 but the demo is given wheres the fun in competing ? u just try NOT to fail on the part the other guy did and eventually it will be unbeatalbe rank

lynn

free speech

muricans are the first ones to breach that

lynn

you made this unusable as an argument when you said "private"

wat

21:54

thats my whole point

21:54

that that argument is unusable

21:55

and that its similar to comparing FOSS and teeworlds r1s

Cactus

if 2 people are trying for r1 but the demo is given wheres the fun in competing ? u just try NOT to fail on the part the other guy did and eventually it will be unbeatalbe rank

teeworlds doesnt care about your feelings or your fun, it's just teeworlds

Cactus

if 2 people are trying for r1 but the demo is given wheres the fun in competing ? u just try NOT to fail on the part the other guy did and eventually it will be unbeatalbe rank

the point of speedrunning is to strive for perfection

21:55

so i dfont see anything bad there

we already have this concept. too hard? dont play it

and u will never get to perfect

yeah but does teeworlds have to fit the same standards of speedrunning? it already doesnt

21:55

since theres thousands of maps

21:55

its not like each is optimized

21:55

so it already doesn't fit that view of striving for perfection

21:56

theres no reason to try to force it

lynn

teeworlds doesnt care about your feelings or your fun, it's just teeworlds

it also doesnt give u premade demos so u learn maps urself instead of following a tutorial

ok private demos. people set up shit to log demos with modified clients, people try to get moderator just to check demos

21:56

what outcome do you expect

whats the point of adding public demos if u will make them private

louis

since theres thousands of maps

lol bad argument

it's already in the client, are we supposed to modify the protocol

trackmania has thousand of maps

dumb argument

people can try hard on certain maps since not every map is competitive, and they can eventually make a rank that beats out the generic pro player top5. that's what makes teeworlds speedrunning so unique, that lower skill players can spend more time on a map and explore shortcuts and optimizations. if public demos are instantly available, it just shatters that

21:57

public demos (in terms of speedrunning) just caters to the elite 1% of the best players

thats actually wrong

i guess t0 ranks cant show any other tees now troll

troll

its the opposite

21:57

lower players will never gert a top 5

21:57

becasue thery dont know the mechanics/tricks to get to top5

in the demo*

to skip parts or save time

21:57

with public demos theyll discover these

21:57

and be able to compete

trolloween

im nowhere near top players but i get ranks using brain and skips

21:58

thats what makes it fun

yes

i'm not talking about noobs, im talking about decent-ish players (edited)

@snail new players c ant do the tech needed on the rly good top 1 ranks

then a good player beats u and u have to perfect ur run

if noobs want to learn they can play tutorials or watch youtube tutorials

thats literally what speedrunning is

ye

louis

thats what makes it fun

it should be fun for you regardless of if someone takes your rank

21:58

you pioneered the skip etc

its not some ego boosting "i wanna keep my rank 1 forever" thing

louis

if noobs want to learn they can play tutorials or watch youtube tutorials

watch louistube tutorials

i had fun on SSU

imagine complaining about someone beating ur rank

not sad i lost it

thats so anti-speedrunner

yeah but ddnet ranks don't have to be that version of "perfect speedrunning"

its about having the humanly fastest time possible on a map

21:59

it literally is a time trial game

like if someone wants a perfect rank they can just find the skip themself

louis

yeah but ddnet ranks don't have to be that version of "perfect speedrunning"

and the benefit of deviating from speedrunning norms are?

finding the skip is part of a ddnet skillset

catering to people that are actually hurt by this?

theres no harm?

upset

21:59

unmotivated to continue speedrunning

why would u be unmotivated

you didnt read what i said then

u would be unmotivated if all ur ranks get insta-sniped by pro players (edited)

lynn

and the benefit of deviating from speedrunning norms are?

.

louis

finding the skip is part of a ddnet skillset

that can be argued but that just goes abck to what i said earlier

22:00

u can look at it from a competitive point of view or just from a "ego" player point of view, both arguments are valid imo

this is already a "problem" in the speedrunning community

i wouldnt call it 'ego', i'd call it more "balanced" in terms of skillsets

people are really upset about ocarina of time any% speedruns

ddneth as perfect speedrunning

some bullshit they found made the hard skips obsolete

cooop doesnt make that impossible

speedrunning doesnt care

its ego because the onyl reason u want that is to be able to keep ur flawed rank 1

it will leave you behind

22:01

and your feelings

thats ur ego talking

ye

ddnet_lgbt

ofc theres ego in speedrunning, who wouldnt want to have r1??

wiki

its like "I found this trick I deserve rank 1 until someone else finds it"

snail

its ego because the onyl reason u want that is to be able to keep ur flawed rank 1

yeah lets say in the case of a guy whos decent, finds a skip, and a pro snipes it with ~1 second of half a second

yeah

the original rank would barely be "flawed"

louis

yeah lets say in the case of a guy whos decent, finds a skip, and a pro snipes it with ~1 second of half a second

then that pro guy is more pro

snail

its like "I found this trick I deserve rank 1 until someone else finds it"

yeah, i was smarted than others ofc i deserve it. Point being?

in equal terms u lacked the skill

i really think you are complaining about nothing here too. if someone got r1 originally, they probably have the skill to improve again if they actually try

no, the pro player lacked the skill in that they didnt have brain

if they're lazy, they wont try ofc

nah bruh

and they just ripped the skip from a public demo

literally there is no speedrunning in the world where it is private

you say "ripped" like it's nothing

its literally nonsense

the thing is big cuts completely overshadow the mechanical aspect of the run

22:02

like i said

22:03

u get sloppy runs rank 1

really seems like you're discounting all the technical details whenever you watch a demo

and thats kinda dumb

like it's automatic

Imagine someone searches for a skip, finds it in a year, gets r1 and it gets beaten in a day because someone else found a little faster way

well again imo the mechanical aspect isn't all to the run

doesnt matter

With the same skip

required still

there's the gamesense and ability to find cuts as well

louis

well again imo the mechanical aspect isn't all to the run

with big skips it literally becomes nothing in some maps

people with r1 ultimately (if they are not lazy) will continue to improve until they remain as r1

well if nobody else found the skip, the guy whos smart enough deserves it (edited)

the best players of the map

22:03

this is just normal speedrunning shit

Imagine u have r1 on 100 maps and u have to keep each of those to still have the points

The speed the ranks change would be too fast with free access to r1 demos

louis

well if nobody else found the skip, the guy whos smart enough deserves it (edited)

i would agree if we had any% and 100% categories on each map

Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance

The speed the ranks change would be too fast with free access to r1 demos

honestly it wouldnt

22:04

lol

snail

i would agree if we had any% and 100% categories on each map

bad way to notate it, skips/no skips is better

it will only matter for a handful of maps

if everything is given to you, you wont use your brain to try find some new skips because everything is given to you by a demo, it just becomes a brainless game where u just memorise the movement with no skill just press the same buttons every time until u memorise it

100% implies there is some clarity on what makes the completion distinct, or some sense that the state of the game has changed

Cactus

if everything is given to you, you wont use your brain to try find some new skips because everything is given to you by a demo, it just becomes a brainless game where u just memorise the movement with no skill just press the same buttons every time until u memorise it

no? just becasue u can copy someones rank doesnt mean its not improveable

lynn ur argument about "oh you get the legacy of finding a skip" is obsolete because teeworlds has so many maps that a legacy for any non-popular map is barely worth anything. people finding cheats in larger games are "popularized" because there's only one route to the game that everyone takes

if u want to beat a rly good looking run ull have to find micro skips that save time and thats also using brain + actually part of the speedrunning thing

not even true

louis

well if nobody else found the skip, the guy whos smart enough deserves it (edited)

they deserve the bragging rights to have found it first, nothing else

go look up ocarina of time any% world record history

22:06

you're just plain wrong about that part

Cactus

if everything is given to you, you wont use your brain to try find some new skips because everything is given to you by a demo, it just becomes a brainless game where u just memorise the movement with no skill just press the same buttons every time until u memorise it

If we’re talking about regular non-speedrun playing then it’s up to everyone themselves whether to use the demo or not

no they deserve the rank too because it's their work

lynn

not even true

@louis sorry forgot to reply and this chat is fast

22:06

*for ddnet

lynn

go look up ocarina of time any% world record history

we're talking about teeworlds not ocarina of time my point is that nobody will care if someone found a skip on some rando map

snail

no? just becasue u can copy someones rank doesnt mean its not improveable

yes it is but all the skips are given so the only thing u can improve is if they failed a part or they were slow, so ur stuck in this loop that u can only improve what they failed until the rank is unbeatable

louis

no they deserve the rank too because it's their work

can you elaborate? it's not like they get wiped out of existance

>we're talking about teeworlds not ocarina of time >people finding cheats in larger games are "popularized" because there's only one route to the game that everyone takes

22:07

wat? ? ?

22:07

what are we talking about then

i was talking about larger games to prove my point about teeworlds

im also talking about larger games to prove my point about teeworlds

well u can explain it cus im not gonna read the whole ocarina of time history

murpi

can you elaborate? it's not like they get wiped out of existance

if 1 pro finds a good skip and every pro knows about it they can easily beat his time if theyre better mechanically or by luck, they could lose easily top10

there are major skips in recent years

murpi

can you elaborate? it's not like they get wiped out of existance

they dont, but the rankpoints can be an incentive for some people

Cactus

yes it is but all the skips are given so the only thing u can improve is if they failed a part or they were slow, so ur stuck in this loop that u can only improve what they failed until the rank is unbeatable

once again, no? rank 1 doesnt mean he perfected the map to 100% with all possible skips? why not use brain and find new skips again

Cactus

if 1 pro finds a good skip and every pro knows about it they can easily beat his time if theyre better mechanically or by luck, they could lose easily top10

and how is that bad? that's literally speedrunning in a nutshell

that made all of the frame-perfect, incredibly detail-oriented, and meticulous data theory that had to be done COMPLETELY obsolete

snail

once again, no? rank 1 doesnt mean he perfected the map to 100% with all possible skips? why not use brain and find new skips again

because as you said all skips are given?????

what

the run is not as interesting to watch as a spectator, people are upset

what given is the demo ?????????

but that's life. you can't do anything about that

that doesnt mean players cant find more skips????

murpi

and how is that bad? that's literally speedrunning in a nutshell

yes but if they never found the skip that map would be remembered from him as the only who did u know?

you just fuck around with a deku nut and skip to the credits

22:09

actually i think there is even a newer skip

Cactus

yes but if they never found the skip that map would be remembered from him as the only who did u know?

that's where bragging rights come into play

yes and that doesnt mean theres no further skip

if bragging rights are not enough for you why are you playing a game with literally just names for points

lynn

that made all of the frame-perfect, incredibly detail-oriented, and meticulous data theory that had to be done COMPLETELY obsolete

hows that relate to legacy of finding skips

you cant even prove you did anything

its funny because in most speedrunning games ppl are actually helping each other

YES lol

giving routes and skips to mechanically good players

22:10

and here u want the opposite

22:10

idk why

speedrunning would loose all integrity if everything would be kept secret

and i did, i told louis shit for SSU

if thats not ego idk what this is

not clear if it helped

if my rank1 stays on a map for lets say 2-3 years ive proven that ive outplayed everyone

thats because in other games theres no points system, theres no rankpoints

speedrun.com

people that have the skips often dont have mechanical skill to get high placing speedruns

louis

thats because in other games theres no points system, theres no rankpoints

There are ranks still

in other games there is actually a Speedrun community

22:10

there is none in ddrace

so they give the skips away and take the legacy and popularization of "finding the skip"

arguably speedrun.com is more prestigious (edited)

Cactus

if my rank1 stays on a map for lets say 2-3 years ive proven that ive outplayed everyone

what has this anything to do with speedrunning?

ESPECIALLY some popular games

murpi

what has this anything to do with speedrunning?

i was answering about "legacy"

louis

people that have the skips often dont have mechanical skill to get high placing speedruns

then take the r1 back

currently ppl are encouraged to not share anything about speedruns

this is so lazy to say

22:11

wait maybe i read wrong

very unfun

yea i read it wrong

@lynn maybe we could have a history of r1s?

and leads to what we have now which is just small groups of speedrunners

no its the opposite abcqwerty

anyone can make a world record history for a specific map i guess

22:12

but like, what map lol

speedrunning is more expanded because people can find small intricacies on their own focus of maps

like a command or on the map page

if everyone knew every skip, it would just be a few pros dominating each map

ohh

that's not true

@lynn maps you find interesting :)

22:12

maps are more interesting where players have discovered skips

all popular maps are too fast with no way of knowing how to do them

maybe some oldschool map had some obscure skip that was unknown for years

thats only popular maps though which comprise maybe 1% of all maps

and no, i dont mean the map bugs

if everyone knew the skip you get what other Speedrun games have, which is ppl helping each other learn

from when something happened few months ago

u can learn ddnet just as easily without knowing every skip

i honestly feel like louis is just plain wrong too

22:14

if i went to a map

22:14

found a skip

22:14

like some ddmax

u are all wrong (idk what we are argueing about)

tell some nobo or average player "hey here's the skip" i doubt they would just go get it

yes but I'm talking about speedrunning

probably lazy or cant do it

and what does that prove

ddnet has no speed running community

that your fixation on "i found the skip" means nothing

22:14

the good players will do it best

22:15

and that's just as fair

wym fixation on "i found the skip"

if someone found a skip and it took them a lot of work

22:15

and they get the rank taken

22:15

if they are too lazy to even try to take it back

Lwai

u are all wrong (idk what we are argueing about)

U (edited)

are they even worthy of the clout from finding the skip

22:15

sounds lame af

FUCKING IPHONE CHANGING U TO I

it's not about being lazy it's about being impossible because they don't match the mechanical skills of the elite players

they arent even willing to protect the rank after the work

it removes all levels of "brain skill" from speedrunning

what if its a skip that relies on luck, would you waste 1 wekk to reclaim your r1 ? which is pure luck??

which is bad (edited)

finding skips is completely from doing it

so you just care about people who are not as good about the game

that's fine

you are still talking about this shit

22:16

lol

and think we should make special exceptions for people who are technically worse

they're not worse at the game

got it

they have a different skillset

technically*

22:16

sorry

having a big brain is part of the game

lynn

they arent even willing to protect the rank after the work

what if its a skip that relies on luck, would you waste 1 week to reclaim your r1 ? which is pure luck??

ok well i understand your point and i disagree

22:16

technical >

nah

Cactus

what if its a skip that relies on luck, would you waste 1 week to reclaim your r1 ? which is pure luck??

wdym

22:17

how would you even feel about someone getting "more lucky"

22:17

oh well i guess

exactly, would you show your demo ?

why should ddnet be all about mashing correct buttons at the exact correct time if you want that experience go speedrun mario 64

for a skip people know about but requires luck?

22:17

im not sure what you mean

no

ddnet is unique in speedrunning and it should stay that way

1

1

u dont get my point

louis

why should ddnet be all about mashing correct buttons at the exact correct time if you want that experience go speedrun mario 64

this is such a weird argument

f this cba to argue

ddnet is unique in that it has no speed running community at all

i actually dont think most ranks are hard, we're all just too lazy

it's just random groups of pros

and i have no one to run with. Skeith is way too lazy

lynn

i actually dont think most ranks are hard, we're all just too lazy

when grim reaper r1?

most

22:18

it's not good that ddnets right now is unique

yes it is

it's already unique

because it has intricacies that make it fun such as the ambiguity behind some ranks

you're complaining about something so specific that affects so little people

22:19

show me the events of "i found a skip" (edited)

22:19

and someone improved and was ACTUALLY upset

22:19

and didnt take back

22:19

and didnt have the skill

22:19

show me any of that

ambiguity isn't good either wtf

if someone makes an insane skip, i'm always like "wow i want to try and find this" and sometimes look over the map, which i find fun if someone can just view a demo then where's the fun

teeworlds

22:19

does not

22:19

care

22:19

about your fun

that's like puzzle game walkthroughs

its an open-source game that you can ddos

how can u guys argue about non public demos for like 500+ messages

troll, fake

its crazy

some ppl make a big deal about it

lynn

its an open-source game that you can ddos

ddos isnt specific to teeworlds

funvote

22:20

it's way easier

but you can choose for yourself if you want to look at it

its a fucking game the point is to play it and dont watch nonstop tutorials

my point is, no one is giving anyone handouts here

22:20

this is as chaotic as it gets

if you are a casual player there are plenty of moderatly hard maps

I.K.U

its a fucking game the point is to play it and dont watch nonstop tutorials

so wait, what's your position then?

22:20

you don't care about public or should be public still

lynn

its an open-source game that you can ddos

i have never seen a speedrunner getting ddos only on t0 hammerhit maps

or prefer private

if someone wants to post it then do it

I.K.U

i have never seen a speedrunner getting ddos only on t0 hammerhit maps

so u were there??? ur the ddoser

if they dont want to dont do it

Cactus

so u were there??? ur the ddoser

true

greenthing

greenthing

2

22:21

you are next

justatest

pepeH

no one should be forced to upload their runs

imo demos have to be completely private or public, and if they're private even then there are issues

IKU = i kaktus you

it shouldn't be "private for x time"

Im going to drop the n word right now

justatest

3

22:22

NOBY

that is so arbitrary

lynn after using arbitrary for the 10x time justatest

justatest

how do you deal with people looking through their t0 demos when a t0 skip is done

private for x time is a compromise between the 2

well then turn off auto record

louis

if someone makes an insane skip, i'm always like "wow i want to try and find this" and sometimes look over the map, which i find fun if someone can just view a demo then where's the fun

That would imply every rank is 100% optimized, which is false

it's arbitrary, it's not founded on anything other than the emotions of people who only like finding skips

22:23

private is at least clear in its intent

lynn after using "arbitrary" for the 11x time justatest

justatest

because louis still doesnt understand what it means unfortunately

Remove teehistorian

Cactus

lynn after using "arbitrary" for the 11x time justatest

justatest

i dont even know what that word means exactly greenthing

greenthing

I.K.U

i dont even know what that word means exactly greenthing

greenthing

same

gigachad

3

ᶰ°Konͧsti

Remove teehistorian

remove konsti

I.K.U

i dont even know what that word means exactly greenthing

greenthing

same

im just bing chillin

Lwai

remove konsti

Remove Horst

it's like random, unreasonable, unfounded

ᶰ°Konͧsti

Remove Horst

he is quite removed dont u think

Lwai

he is quite removed dont u think

He just changed name to lwai which is pretty gae

??

22:25

no

a good definition for this is "Based on or subject to individual judgment or preference"

Lynn sux

ᶰ°Konͧsti

He just changed name to lwai which is pretty gae

https://ddnet.tw/players/Horst/

L + take 3 months to release ur oldschool maps

getspeed 4 when

bruh the private for x time is a compromise like i said

at least he releases maps greenthing

greenthing

between public demos and allowing people to keep their rankpoints for a certain amount of time

I.K.U

at least he releases maps greenthing

greenthing

wait a little bit kek

kek

f3 private for 2 weeks

plsplsplslol

getspeed 4 when

Design not done yet

i will do for u

22:26

entities design

troll

2

when name a map

lynn

wait a little bit kek

kek

fun map + L + ratio + saddo

saddo

its a good map

22:26

greenthing

22:26

no one has openly hated it yet

ill make a map and ill name it an emoji

+ took 50 years and 20 people to create a 40x40 map

out of the 50+ ppl plus i have seen

name map acqwerty

u

actroll

name map afksti

afksti

3

louis has gotten bored of arguing and saw people diss me and jumped on it

afkti

ur the one being passive aggressive af (edited)

allowing people to keep their rankpoints for a certain amount of time

i still dont know why this matters

who's afkti

if you are not motivated to get rankpoints because they could disappear

22:27

dont do it

1

22:27

wat yeah

@ᶰ°Konͧsti justatest

justatest

moderation discussion in DM

trollet

1

????

“It is only when mosquito land on your balls that you realize there is a way to solve problems without using violence.”

22:28

guys relax

i dont really care if people post gifs

yes noby other name is a

and im the one having the conversation heinrich

2

so I ping him by saying a:

5

5

5

5

22:29

then add the rest of the word

ill literally move to off-topic so it cant be moderated like this

biggest_abuser_and_weed_user

gonna insult some green name in dms

do it

dm me

justatest

4

yea

5991

try me

22:30

Dance

dm bencie

Meekrioz

Dance

keep my wifes name OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOUTH

no u

@perrodecerro why not banned yet

colocolo

3

plsplsplslol

@perrodecerro why not banned yet

hes ascended

Wena weon

u

22:31

actroll

u

When unban Kenzo

he's unbanned

22:31

real question is when banned

a: buse

ill become a discord mod just so my name is green then i leave gigachad

gigachad

gigachad

2

no.

sometimes i wonder if there will be a new discord mod

yes

22:39

me

22:39

gigachad

i think im not suited to it despite being very active, since i disagree with most moderation that happens here

22:39

meh, not that i couldnt do it i guess

k

but i still think #general should be more like off-topic, including teeworlds discussion instead of rejecting other topics

22:40

i dont think anyone is gonna leave this server just because i asked @Meekrioz in #general how his day has been

im leaving

22:40

fuck this

bye

how dare you

22:40

im offended

strange to hear from german

welp

22:40

touché

22:41

i would at least remove problematic reports and scam links

22:41

(which i already do)

1

22:41

but im never gonna remove a GIF in #general sorry

22:41

ill leave that up to yall

that wasn't even me

a_hehe

in the description, it says "teeworlds related media go to #showroom", nothing said about other unrelated media

Cactus

ill become a discord mod just so my name is green then i leave gigachad

gigachad

u should become skin database crew

22:43

its the most coveted name color

mekrioz u motherfucker xd

22:44

i honestly think mek loves a:buse more than any mod

22:44

discord or ing

22:44

not a bad mod but still

22:44

my point stands

22:44

greenthing

louis

its the most coveted name color

its rly nice

22:44

u should give up ur tester role troll

troll

i just love to fuck with people

22:45

:)

22:45

i banned @|GH0sT| a few minutes ago

.-.

mid race

22:46

45 mins in

22:46

he abuses mod

i funvoted rapture once

meek worst mod

1

it took colo-colo an entire month to shut up about it

22:46

i probably caused the resurgence of the ddnet mafia meme oops

22:46

is the ddnet mafia meme more about mods or testers?

|GH0sT|

45 mins in

it was already an hour in

im still unclear on that

ddnet mafia is the whole moderation team

ppl say it about testing team too

not real ppl then

ok

lynn

sometimes i wonder if there will be a new discord mod

Bruh u would be the worst discord mod ever because you cannot handle the most simple trolling, taking anything personal and cant accept free speech xD

"free speech" isn't an excuse to insult people

Image attachment

22:49

stfu konsti

22:49

not even true

ᶰ°Konͧsti

Its not insulting if its true

justatest

we dont have to value the opinions of nazis anyway, u can just ignore them

truths can also be insulting

Topkek, people dont accept my Phantasy, they are probably Nazis Ytrolltrollcrazyinsane

Ytrolltrollcrazyinsane

you can usually formulate them in a way so that they're not insulting

you openly hate other races

22:52

and gay people

22:52

and trans people

i hate everyone equally

22:52

SMILE

22:52

literally everyone.

Meekrioz

literally everyone.

me too?

feelsbadman

im allowed to have emotions and be a discord moderator btw

22:53

that's just common sense

I.K.U

me too?

feelsbadman

yyes.

heinrich5991

you can usually formulate them in a way so that they're not insulting

~~ur a shit player~~ ur not as good as other players justatest

justatest

but your emotions should not interfere with moderation

1

Meekrioz

yyes.

too bad i hated you first greenthing

greenthing

have they?

lynn

you openly hate other races

Fake news, i love all humans

I.K.U

too bad i hated you first greenthing

greenthing

good <3

what have i done

louis

u should become skin database crew

is that even a thing

you fed the trolls

troll

1

ive removed messages here that were scam links and mentions of bot clients

22:53

nothing else

22:53

literally nothing

Cactus

is that even a thing

yeah me ravie and clefairy have it

use NOBYNET client

22:54

To become pro like noby

yes zombietroll can add ur skin to the best skin database

justatest

2

zombietroll

1

nobyisthebiggesttroll

i think everyone assumes im going to ban anyone who says "trans person kys"

@lynn "if you're reading this, remind me to make a YouTube video"

which is why ur like this

even your profile is insulting

thank you! it's 33% done now

i mean it Is a bannable offence tbh

lynn

thank you! it's 33% done now

When 41% done

lynn

thank you! it's 33% done now

it's a meme

konsti doesnt say "kys"

wtf

22:55

stop typing i cant reply properly

I'm in favor of banning people for that

YEP

1

he only says NOBY

think_bot

3

realnoby

2

Chairn

even your profile is insulting

its a joke between friends, chill out

btw, @murpi https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=104&p=70569&sid=30a608fb98313664c06c1250872d11df#p70569

lynn

i think everyone assumes im going to ban anyone who says "trans person kys"

no, im assuming u would ban anyone to use "wrong" pronoun

still wrong

Chairn

btw, @murpi https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=104&p=70569&sid=30a608fb98313664c06c1250872d11df#p70569

thanks

@lynn what's ENFJ?

i can advise moderation when someone is being a jackass but im not going to make that choice alone

Chairn

@lynn what's ENFJ?

it's a personality type, its kinda bullshit i guess but was mostly true for me

what does it stand for?

We should bring enji back

22:57

He loves Lynn

22:57

Pretty gay i know

extroverted intuitive feeling judgement

22:57

basically means i am extremely social and emotional

soy

2

22:57

sry

wtf

ᶰ°Konͧsti

Pretty gay i know

ye i saw his status changed to trans

22:58

oops i mean she

banhammer

1

22:58

troll

banhammer

@lynn when make YouTube video

Wowo missgender

22:58

big ban

im so fucking glad hungarian langauge doesnt have pronouns

gigachad

2

you know indonesian doesnt either

@bencie is this true

really nice language

I.K.U

im so fucking glad hungarian langauge doesnt have pronouns

Hungary also has way less idiots in its country so it wouldnt matter

ᶰ°Konͧsti

Hungary also has way less idiots in its country so it wouldnt matter

well we do have a lot of...

justatest

2

gypsy

1

22:59

certain people

gigachad

Hungary has Hungarians

pronouns are cool if u have more of them

23:00

lynnyaSmug

from now on call me apache helicopter 61-8 you bitch

Theres only he/him and she/her

there's a conlang i made with some friends that has a better pronoun system

Everything else is phantasy

ᶰ°Konͧsti

Theres only he/him and she/her

L + they/them

That is for objects

23:01

Not for human

how u gonna refer to 2 people broski

23:01

ok but u said "pronouns"

23:01

not "human pronouns"

23:01

no pepega emote?

23:01

fucked up

pepega

monkaS

/

monkalaugh

thank u

Pepega

trolllowres

3

plural they for humans has been around since the 13th century

pepega

so L again

feelsamazingman

1

23:02

My gender ^

Meekrioz

@bencie is this true

im too lazy to read context

literally im talking about they them and yall showin me pictures of general aviation

but

@bencie no pronouns in hungarian language

23:02

is it true

ye

oh

23:03

nice

how do you say "I"

23:03

or "you"

23:03

is it in the verb?

Its in the word probably

are those pronouns?

én/te/ő - mi/ti/ők

yes xD

no.

i/you/we/she/he/they

I.K.U

én/te/ő - mi/ti/ők

omg #off-topic !!! english oonly rule 9!

oh and it

In latin pronouns are also in the end of the verb

no.

wait i guess those/these/this/that could be considered pronouns

like -mus for we or -o for I

hold on

23:04

yea they're pronouns

23:04

english cursed

I.K.U

én/te/ő - mi/ti/ők

me/you/him-she - us/ - /they or them

23:04

ti would mean you guys

yall

yex d

https://discord.gg/P3AbXqEC?event=967179284244475984

i feel like yall is better than you guys

23:05

but some people have been like OMG!!! ONLY SOUTH PPL CAN SAY YALL!!!

23:05

which is insane

when you cant control anything in your life

i can control some things

23:05

like my gender

23:05

lynnyaSmug

bro i didnt say it about you

‍♂️

yes i want to feed the trolls

23:06

greenthing

(ik you might have not taken like that tough)

im lost in convo

im afk for like 5mins

no im not "triggered" because you said bro

and yall shit talk again

23:06

spray

we're not xd

Meekrioz

im afk for like 5mins

who

spray

23:06

SHUSH

23:06

spray

wat

23:06

WAT

spray

afksti

im a cat nya dont spray me!

okay

23:07

thats cringe

23:07

stop that

:3

23:07

uwu

23:07

OWO

@Headshot

xD

alright ill stop

DIESOFCRINGE

i gotta do stuff anyway

23:07

like eat (edited)

lynn

like my gender

nah u cant

ez

23:09

my body is so fucked dude

triggered

it's littered with estrogen

23:09

and barely any testostrogen

Sounds healthy

its nice

23:10

boobs are nice

Yeah #general

sounds like murca putting something in the water troll

troll

i think i said "boobs" last time in general

23:10

before i left

23:10

nvm wasnt general

did someone say estrogen??

lynn

and barely any testostrogen

LMFAO i mean testosterone

23:11

that wasnt a joke im just so stupid

justatest

1

no im saying

estrogen UwU

estrogen. hand it over

Testrostogen

23:11

I want that

diyhrt has sources

brownbear

do it yourself lynnyaSmug

lynnyaSmug

ᶰ°Konͧsti

Testrostogen

sounds nice, maybe it fixes trans girl libido

tbh i might start voice traning

i heard ur voice i think u could get pretty good w it

23:13

greenthing

23:13

voice training not for me tho

23:13

i love my manly ass voice

i like your voice!

ya i think its fine

23:17

if ppl dont like it idc

23:17

many people do

23:18

most of it is inflection/tone anyway not pitch

i gotta voice train to get deeper

23:22

must reach rock bottom

ur voice nutty

23:22

best voice

23:23

halfnoob's impression is so good tho

louis

i gotta voice train to get deeper

just take testosterone EZ

wtf whats halfnoobs impression

ok so its like

23:35

imagine a voice but it sounds like yours

what

2

is that imagination then?

23:35

i mean, it sounds like the voice in my head then

ye its all fake

23:36

none of the voices you hear from others are real

23:36

you imagine them whenever they open their mouth

@murpi alive?

23:43

Can Moderators see timeout code of a player

23:45

Reeeeee

23:46

peperage

peperage

peperage

peperage

peperage

gigachad

no

Why answer now

23:46

Too late

23:47

Rip 9 days mult0map time

kay

stop overflowing stuff @ᶰ°Konͧsti

u

@murpi

poor murpi getting spammed feelsbadman

feelsbadman

why

23:59

is ddnet being ddosed or something

23:59

every serrver is lagging

23:59

and glitching

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