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Between 2022-03-30 00:00:00Z and 2022-03-31 00:00:00Z
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son of the sprite 2022-03-30 08:45:47Z
uh I have a problem, when I tried to open ddrace it says it cant find a file DDnet.exe, when I checked out the folder it was almost empty idk why, when I try to reinstall it give me same error
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 08:46:50Z
yes cannot contact deen
08:46
seems like the update was cancelled
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son of the sprite 2022-03-30 08:47:14Z
so how do I play ddrace ?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 08:48:06Z
switch to nightly for now
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son of the sprite 2022-03-30 08:48:18Z
ok
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 08:48:19Z
deen should read it in a few minutes if he has emails on
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son of the sprite 2022-03-30 08:49:00Z
o it updated
08:49
I have default ddrace right now and its working
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deen 2022-03-30 08:55:27Z
I reverted to old change, will try to fix new 16.0 release now
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wats 2022-03-30 10:27:01Z
i cant open the game
10:29
why after I installed a new engine, game dont opening (edited)
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DroxZy Ofc 2022-03-30 10:30:11Z
how can i choose vulkan, in graphic settings it only shows me for open gl
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:30:19Z
use 64bit
10:30
vulkan only works on modern computers
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DroxZy Ofc 2022-03-30 10:30:30Z
ugh
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wats 2022-03-30 10:30:31Z
wtf?
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wats
i cant open the game
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:30:32Z
what is the error
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DroxZy Ofc 2022-03-30 10:30:34Z
and mine is trash af
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wats 2022-03-30 10:30:37Z
no error
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DroxZy Ofc 2022-03-30 10:30:38Z
old pc
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wats 2022-03-30 10:30:42Z
opening opening
10:30
black screen
10:30
and game closed (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:31:00Z
what did you do exactly to get it?
10:31
just updated to ddnet 16?
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wats 2022-03-30 10:31:12Z
no
10:31
pick vulkan 1.0.0
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Jupstar ✪
vulkan only works on modern computers
DroxZy Ofc 2022-03-30 10:31:24Z
then why was it even made, modern pc will always have good fps huh
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wats 2022-03-30 10:31:35Z
closed ddnet
10:31
and now cant open
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DroxZy Ofc
then why was it even made, modern pc will always have good fps huh
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:31:40Z
but now its even better 😉
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wats
closed ddnet
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:32:01Z
what exactly is your GPU?
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Jupstar ✪
but now its even better 😉
DroxZy Ofc 2022-03-30 10:32:24Z
oof
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wats 2022-03-30 10:32:28Z
gtx 760
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DroxZy Ofc 2022-03-30 10:32:30Z
that's greedy xddd
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wats
gtx 760
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:32:40Z
latest drivers installed from nvidia website direct?
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wats 2022-03-30 10:32:51Z
mb
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:32:52Z
i also have gtx 760 here, and it worked for me
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DroxZy Ofc
that's greedy xddd
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:33:31Z
yeah sry for you, but the industry sadly doesnt care about old hardware :/
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wats 2022-03-30 10:34:18Z
idk
10:34
how i can back to old opengl
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:34:45Z
add gfx_backend opengl to steam start parameters
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wats
how i can back to old opengl
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:34:57Z
r u on win7 or smth?
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wats 2022-03-30 10:35:21Z
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:35:27Z
not add
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wats 2022-03-30 10:35:31Z
xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:35:31Z
just gfx_backend opengl
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deen 2022-03-30 10:35:43Z
Now there will be just gfx_backend opengl 😄
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:36:05Z
just; gfx_backend opengl might also work xd
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DroxZy Ofc
then why was it even made, modern pc will always have good fps huh
deen 2022-03-30 10:36:23Z
Our of curiosity, what CPU do you have that doesn't support 64bit?
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wats 2022-03-30 10:36:28Z
didnt help
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:37:16Z
gimme a second
10:37
true it needs "gfx_backend opengl"
10:37
so with "
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deen
Our of curiosity, what CPU do you have that doesn't support 64bit?
DroxZy Ofc 2022-03-30 10:38:22Z
yeah it doesn't it has 32 bit
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wats
didnt help
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 10:38:54Z
i'll later test on gtx 760 again, but pretty sure it worked, i'd suggest update all drivers and OS
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DroxZy Ofc 2022-03-30 10:38:56Z
and second thing, my ping increased in everyserver, not getting less than 200, now i think it's bad routing, how to fix this?
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Jupstar ✪
true it needs "gfx_backend opengl"
wats 2022-03-30 10:39:20Z
hmm okay
10:39
it work
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check pm i send you video
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DroxZy Ofc
yeah it doesn't it has 32 bit
deen 2022-03-30 10:40:18Z
but in that case vulkan would probably not be supported by your old gpu either
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not add
Ryozuki 2022-03-30 11:49:59Z
lmao i laughed reading this
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Ryozuki
lmao i laughed reading this
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 11:53:21Z
step by step guide: 1. breath in 2. relax your hands, you going to type on your keyboard 3. type "gfx_backend Vulkan" 4. breath out 5. take a break, this was hard
11:53
this is how u have to make guides xd
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Jupstar ✪
this is how u have to make guides xd
Ryozuki 2022-03-30 11:56:48Z
u forgot to mention, without the "
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 11:57:13Z
in this case it's indeed right xD
11:57
see even this guide is too hard
11:57
xD
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Learath2 2022-03-30 12:21:47Z
Hm, so hard to debug these but a gfx option shouldn’t really be crashing imo
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:22:23Z
there is no crash tho
12:22
something is wrong with the nvidia driver but it was outdated
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Learath2 2022-03-30 12:25:49Z
Hm, is it the driver crashing?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:26:45Z
there is no crash
12:26
there is a blackscreen
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dunno why
12:27
but i have the same GPU he has here
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with a newer driver
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also he runs his game with admin rights
12:27
dunno if thats a good thing xD
12:27
@wats when update drivers & dont run ddnet with admin rights
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Learath2 2022-03-30 12:28:02Z
Should we maybe try adding that gfx revert thing other games do?
12:28
Like wait 10s and if the user doesn’t click accept new settings just revert
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:29:23Z
uff sounds hard in this case
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Learath2 2022-03-30 12:29:24Z
Hm, tho gfx backend changes require a restart :/
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:29:29Z
yeah
12:29
but generally i like that idea
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Learath2 2022-03-30 12:29:58Z
Hm, it does start to make sense that other games that allow backend changes use a pre-start launcher 😄
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Nakimor 2022-03-30 12:34:18Z
hello, here the numbers in teleports have become dramatically too large in comfort textures
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:34:31Z
thats a opengl 1.x problem xd
12:34
update to 64bit
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Nakimor 2022-03-30 12:37:37Z
everything was fine before the update
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:38:09Z
the update made 32bit users go to opengl 1.x
12:38
u can still manually select higher opengl in graphic settings
12:38
but it will crash on very huge maps
12:38
its better to just switch to 64bit
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Nakimor 2022-03-30 12:39:03Z
Yes, I have a 64 bit system.
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Learath2 2022-03-30 12:39:06Z
@Jupstar ✪ he did post a now deleted screenshot where it said 64bit windows, tho idk why he deleted it
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:39:26Z
then the fallback kicked in
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Learath2
@Jupstar ✪ he did post a now deleted screenshot where it said 64bit windows, tho idk why he deleted it
Nakimor 2022-03-30 12:39:37Z
I thought it would be considered offtopic
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:39:40Z
anyway you can try to manually adjust it
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Learath2 2022-03-30 12:40:35Z
I guess try picking vulkan and work backwards until it works
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:40:50Z
@Nakimor did you select vulkan?
12:40
that might also cause it
12:41
if you have no vulkan GPU it will just fallback
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Nakimor 2022-03-30 12:42:20Z
alas, nothing changes with the volcano
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:42:35Z
just use opengl 3.0 default
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Nakimor 2022-03-30 12:43:04Z
I only have 2 settings 🙂
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:43:26Z
intel user?
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Learath2 2022-03-30 12:43:28Z
Mh, a blacklisted driver?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:43:59Z
what is your GPU btw, can u press f1 after starting the client and share the purple text?
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Nakimor 2022-03-30 12:44:11Z
I don't have a video card and the processor is rather weak
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Jupstar ✪
what is your GPU btw, can u press f1 after starting the client and share the purple text?
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:44:29Z
do this pls @Nakimor
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Nakimor 2022-03-30 12:45:09Z
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:45:33Z
ok sounds very old xD
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follow https://wiki.ddnet.org/wiki/GFX_Troubleshooting If the above link didn't help, you can still try these: If you encounter crashes or other visual bugs, please try these steps first: If you have a modern GPU try to update your drivers and don't do any of the following steps... If you have an old GPU/Computer, try these: Inside the client press F1 and type (or copy & paste). If you use steam you can right click ddnet -> properties and add this to the start parameters with " on the left and right side (so e.g. "gfx_...") gfx_gl_major 2;gfx_gl_minor 0; gfx_backend opengl restart If this didn't help try: Inside the client press F1 and type (or copy & paste). If you use steam you can right click ddnet -> properties and add this to the start parameters with " on the left and right side (so e.g. "gfx_...") gfx_gl_major 1; gfx_backend opengl restart If you still encounter bugs you can ofc still ask/report anything (edited)
GFX Troubleshooting
There are numerous graphics (gfx) related bugs users encountered. Not all are fixable, but might have workarounds. This site is there to collect these to help those encountering the same issues.
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sry
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gfx_gl_major 2; gfx_gl_minor 0; gfx_backend opengl;
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this
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@murpi can you update the pinned message and replace opengl with gl for the config variables
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gfx_gl_major etc
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Nakimor 2022-03-30 12:46:51Z
wow thanks it worked
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 12:47:43Z
@murpi and add ;gfx_backend opengl to all commands
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Jupstar ✪
@murpi and add ;gfx_backend opengl to all commands
murpi 2022-03-30 13:07:17Z
wdym all commands?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 13:15:53Z
mhh, the message is gone now xdd
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murpi 2022-03-30 13:19:53Z
@Jupstar ✪ do you mean https://ddnet.tw/settingscommands/ ?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 13:20:08Z
@murpi no nvm, i meant the pinned message of this channel
13:20
but i already did it now
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murpi 2022-03-30 13:20:21Z
ok
13:20
the command isn't there btw, maybe add it?
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deen 2022-03-30 13:20:53Z
done
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murpi 2022-03-30 13:20:58Z
ah cool
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 13:21:53Z
normally something like this pops up, dunno how deen did it silently xD
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murpi 2022-03-30 13:24:43Z
I deleted it ^^
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 13:26:54Z
ah ok xD
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Zeral 2022-03-30 15:27:52Z
if you use hookline with the vulkan graphics, its not as accurate, for example, it shows hookable even if its not ^^
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:28:39Z
wtf xD
15:28
GPU, OS, drivers up to date?
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Zeral 2022-03-30 15:29:59Z
ye
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deen 2022-03-30 15:30:15Z
the color of hookline is calculated independent of how graphics is rendered, this should be impossible
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Zeral 2022-03-30 15:30:38Z
i can send a clip
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deen
the color of hookline is calculated independent of how graphics is rendered, this should be impossible
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:30:43Z
good point
15:31
we had a hookline change, but for me it looks correct
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deen 2022-03-30 15:32:16Z
the change we had calculates it more often, but should still be the same calculation
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Zeral 2022-03-30 15:32:27Z
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deen 2022-03-30 15:32:28Z
My guess is that we use the client value now, and this is not the same as the value the server will receive
15:32
so that's why it's slightly wrong
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:32:41Z
yeah, sounds reasonable
15:32
thats a problem indeed then
15:32
guess we have to revert and add a comment
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deen 2022-03-30 15:33:01Z
can we calculate how the server will get it?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:33:02Z
why it cant be changed
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deen 2022-03-30 15:33:12Z
then we can do it earlier still
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:33:18Z
yeah
15:33
should work i guess
15:33
quantinizing the position or whatever gamecore does
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deen 2022-03-30 15:33:55Z
releases always so stressful, we still don't have enough RC testers
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:34:04Z
yeah :/
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deen 2022-03-30 15:34:57Z
Graphics bugs reported on Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/app/412220/discussions/0/3276939184049529205/
anybody help再不能玩ddr我就要疯了 :: DDraceNetwork General Discussions
after today's update I entered the server without any other operations,all the servers can only display the background whether I open the entity layer or not
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:35:15Z
uff macos xd
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maybe i should rename the analysis done config var
15:36
then it gets resetted, its not a config the user cares about anyway
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deen 2022-03-30 15:36:34Z
yeah, sounds good
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deen
can we calculate how the server will get it?
c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 15:39:32Z
m_InputData[g_Config.m_ClDummy].m_TargetX = (int)m_MousePos[g_Config.m_ClDummy].x we basiclly only convert it to int 😄 seems to make a difference 😄 (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:40:02Z
wanna fix it?
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c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 15:40:13Z
sure
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:40:15Z
i dunno who implemented it, and if he is available
15:40
thanks 😄
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Jupstar ✪
thanks 😄
c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 15:44:47Z
xD deen already did it
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c0d3d3v
xD deen already did it
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:45:32Z
u can still fix it so we have it similar to now
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c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 15:47:01Z
mh I see it was already converted to int before. So the error must be deeper. I'll see if I can find something.
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:47:56Z
yeah gamecore divides by 256 and then sends it over network
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or smth like this
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so its less accurate
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the "real" hookline
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Zeral
Click to see attachment 🖼️
c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 15:48:14Z
do you have anitping and cl_predict on?
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Jupstar ✪
yeah gamecore divides by 256 and then sends it over network
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:48:36Z
(multiplies actually, the client divides it then)
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lomi 2022-03-30 15:49:00Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/4207 D; Only the hand that holds the weapon is transparent, not the one that holds the hook... i cant show because there is no ghost in demo but you can try
🐛 Weapon of Ghost is not transparent · Issue #4207 · ddnet/ddnet
Currently the racing ghost has a fixed transparency of 0.5, as you can see in the picture: Sometimes it can be very confusing, when the ghost is really close. Therefore I suggest a variable to cont...
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:49:50Z
i'll just reopen
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lomi 2022-03-30 15:49:55Z
thx
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c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 15:50:03Z
O.o
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lomi 2022-03-30 15:50:04Z
i dont know how to do
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deen 2022-03-30 15:50:13Z
@Jupstar ✪ should we wait for more stuff or push out 16.0.1?
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deen
@Jupstar ✪ should we wait for more stuff or push out 16.0.1?
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 15:51:03Z
i think its fine for a patch now
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lomi
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/4207 D; Only the hand that holds the weapon is transparent, not the one that holds the hook... i cant show because there is no ghost in demo but you can try
c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 15:53:50Z
lol it is even visible in the screenshot of my fix https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4770
Allow the ghost to carry any weapon | fix #4207 by C0D3D3V · Pull R...
I tried to reproduce another bug (#4207) and I noticed that ghosts are not allowed to carry any other weapons except grenade launcher and pistol. This is no longer necessary since we have been usin...
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I did not notice it
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xD I can fix it
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lomi 2022-03-30 15:55:30Z
xD i saw it but i didnt understand it should be fixed :/ (edited)
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c0d3d3v
do you have anitping and cl_predict on?
Zeral 2022-03-30 15:55:48Z
yes
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lomi 2022-03-30 16:42:57Z
why ghost cant become ninja ? there is no difference between frozen ghost and livefroze ghost ...
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although live freeze is not used at all
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c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 16:52:04Z
freeze ninja seems to work
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you mean the ninja skin?
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lomi 2022-03-30 16:52:33Z
yes
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c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 16:52:47Z
its because ninja skin is only added to real players
16:52
I can change that too
16:53
colloring is also incorrect,
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for me all gohsts are black
16:53
xD the sword of ninja is also not transparent
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c0d3d3v
for me all gohsts are black
lomi 2022-03-30 16:53:32Z
i have this bug but now, it seems to be fixed
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c0d3d3v
xD the sword of ninja is also not transparent
lomi 2022-03-30 16:53:43Z
:/
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c0d3d3v
I can change that too
lomi 2022-03-30 16:54:27Z
thx
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I think all nameplates are not transparent either but I don't know if it's really useful to make them transparent
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c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 17:01:23Z
I think that was a feature xD
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I also find it strange that there is only one ghost for player and dummy and that the then jumps back and forth in between. although we have the possibility to play several gohsts at the same time. But that is probably a problem for the future.
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Mʎɹ シ 2022-03-30 17:13:55Z
Hmm... This ok? :D I enable vulkan render and this not work
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I also find it strange that there is only one ghost for player and dummy and that the then jumps back and forth in between. although we have the possibility to play several gohsts at the same time. But that is probably a problem for the future.
lomi 2022-03-30 17:16:11Z
Why it'll be a problem?
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lomi
Why it'll be a problem?
c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 17:17:09Z
It is a problem for me, I do not like it
17:17
xD
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lomi 2022-03-30 17:17:30Z
Ah
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Mʎɹ シ
Hmm... This ok? :D I enable vulkan render and this not work
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 17:17:55Z
i saw this on amd card, do you have a amd card?
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lomi 2022-03-30 17:18:03Z
I can't help you anymore now :/
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lomi
Why it'll be a problem?
c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 17:18:18Z
I would think it would be nicer to see both. Or at least it would only show one constantly and not jump back and forth between the two. no idea i don't use gohsts anyway, but that's one reason why i don't. do you think that's great?
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Jupstar ✪
i saw this on amd card, do you have a amd card?
Mʎɹ シ 2022-03-30 17:19:27Z
Yes
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Mʎɹ シ
Hmm... This ok? :D I enable vulkan render and this not work
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 17:19:29Z
if you have a driver that is from 2022, install it and hopefully it fixes it, else you cannot use vulkan sadly
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c0d3d3v
I would think it would be nicer to see both. Or at least it would only show one constantly and not jump back and forth between the two. no idea i don't use gohsts anyway, but that's one reason why i don't. do you think that's great?
lomi 2022-03-30 17:20:09Z
Yes, but it isn't rly important
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lomi
Yes, but it isn't rly important
c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 17:22:18Z
https://streamable.com/oquu51 anything else xD (edited)
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Mʎɹ シ
Yes
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 18:07:41Z
did it work, or is your GPU too old? D:
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c0d3d3v
m_InputData[g_Config.m_ClDummy].m_TargetX = (int)m_MousePos[g_Config.m_ClDummy].x we basiclly only convert it to int 😄 seems to make a difference 😄 (edited)
Tater 2022-03-30 19:41:42Z
This hookline issue is strange to me because as far as I can tell the value is calculated exactly the same?
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We were already using the client calculation of the direction not the server, otherwise it would lag horribly (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-30 19:47:15Z
but maybe it is quantinized
19:47
look in gamecore how it transforms floats into ints
19:47
that makes it inaccurate but if we already uses the predicted values, it cannot be fixed any further anyway
19:47
gotta live with the "lag"
19:48
or fix server side, requires to break with vanilla teeworlds 😛
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but maybe it is quantinized
Tater 2022-03-30 20:12:57Z
If I display the values they are exactly the same, the only difference is that m_Controls.m_InputData updates slower
20:13
the top is mouse pos, bottom is inputdata target
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Tater 2022-03-30 20:25:37Z
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the top is mouse pos, bottom is inputdata target
c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 21:29:40Z
xD I know, I had already written that 😄 I had not understood it first that the calculation was already made so. I think the problem must be deeper.
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Tater 2022-03-30 21:30:20Z
I'm 95% sure the bug has nothing to do with my change because the hookline in the video is not a local one, so the code in question never gets run
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I'm 95% sure the bug has nothing to do with my change because the hookline in the video is not a local one, so the code in question never gets run
c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 21:35:03Z
I have always seen hook lines of other tees that were yellow, but in voice chat they said that there own hookline is red. I don't think that's because of your change. (edited)
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Tater 2022-03-30 21:38:04Z
ok xD (edited)
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deen 2022-03-30 21:42:18Z
For other tees that's normal, but own line should be correct
21:42
Don't tell me the bug report was for watching another tee...
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c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 21:42:44Z
xD it was
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deen 2022-03-30 21:42:52Z
oh no...
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joeyAZ3BR 2022-03-30 22:24:25Z
I can't play ddnet :c after this update...
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xc
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deen 2022-03-30 22:26:41Z
Try checking your antivirus/firewall software, it might be blocking DDNet. You can add an exception hopefully and report this problem to your AV provider
22:26
what operating system btw?
22:27
And you can always get an older version from https://ddnet.tw/downloads/ if this doesn't help (as a workaround)
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c0d3d3v 2022-03-30 22:52:16Z
maps.ddnet.tw seems to be down
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joeyAZ3BR 2022-03-30 23:27:17Z
Ok
23:31
Ahh xd i'm using port 938 (idk)
23:31
Now is port 0
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joeyAZ3BR 2022-03-30 23:39:07Z
But thx :3
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