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Chairn 2022-03-21 00:49:19Z
Wcast-qual is a real mess in engine/shared/snapshot.cpp
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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 02:41:13Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4848 Cleaned const qualification when using -Wcast-qual
Code is full of const data being cast to non const, not sure if safe. I couldn't fix all so i marked them with a comment.

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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 03:15:53Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4849 Fix queries for MySQL 8.0
Fixes #4815 What was changed:
  • All Rank columns name were scapped since MySQL 8.0 interprets the word "Rank" as a internal function or constant (A good practice would be if all column names were escaped).
  • All group by have been modified to have all columns that need to be grouped, in order to respect the ONLY_FULL_GROUP_BY flag set by default on MySQL 8.0. On these group bys were also included the columns that are used in the window, since are also required by the same tag.
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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 04:56:41Z
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Chairn
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4850 Added default switch statement
Added default switch statement either with a comment or with a call to dbg_msg. During my tests, i couldn't trigger any of them, but its better to have a default case anyway. Tested with gcc 7 and clang 13.

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4851 Added direction enumeration for the editor
This is a similar work that was carried out by @C0D3D3V on introducing enumeration rather than magic numbers.

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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 06:20:27Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4852 Fixed some useless double promotion
Double promotion occurs quite often when an operator is an hidden double, like constants written without the 'f' at the end. We might get a tiny micro improvement. Unfortunately, we can't do anything for all the double promotion occurring in printf like functions as it is the default for both C and C++. Only this line might change physics: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/4d47fcda094c3452a5924aad8811fd6965362ee3#diff-d76009083687ba43c59dc7bb2c7357457c999c2eb9d913967d598e913c6fd01fR40...
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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 06:47:46Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
c479c59 Update frontpage video - snailx3
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 07:00:11Z
@snail nice video
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chillerdragon
asking for a friend doi u have sume sql?
Nathan_ 2022-03-21 07:04:14Z
i dont have my pc and he is not good with computers justatest
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Chairn 2022-03-21 07:22:01Z
how do i change lsit of .o files for linking with our cmakefiles?
07:22
i've never used cmake other than as a user
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 07:22:29Z
we generate CMake objects, that is basically a bunch of o files
07:22
see e.g. engine shared
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Ryozuki
@snail nice video
snail 2022-03-21 07:22:36Z
ye its insane
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Ryozuki
@snail nice video
Chairn 2022-03-21 07:25:30Z
and without cuts
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Jupstar ✪
see e.g. engine shared
Chairn 2022-03-21 07:26:57Z
yeah, but it's always in a single directory
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 07:28:05Z
more objects more directories
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Chairn 2022-03-21 07:30:01Z
❓ (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 07:30:34Z
you want to change the list so add engine-shared1 engine-shared2
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Chairn 2022-03-21 07:30:59Z
but it's not compilation i change, only link
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 07:31:31Z
you can control the compilation then too
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make -j20 engine-shared1
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Chairn 2022-03-21 07:34:12Z
i miss the time with makefiles you could just change 😢
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 07:34:26Z
i dont miss these times xD
07:34
cmake has everything you need
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 07:34:39Z
me neither
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Chairn 2022-03-21 07:34:51Z
with proper makefiles, you could change things with just environment variables 😄
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 07:35:14Z
cmake can do that too
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CC=clang cmake ..
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for compiler flags: cmake .. -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS="-Werror"
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 07:36:03Z
lets be real, rust is superior cuz it has cargo.toml
07:36
and a better dep management
07:36
greenthing
07:36
https://crates.io/
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Jupstar ✪
for compiler flags: cmake .. -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS="-Werror"
Learath2 2022-03-21 07:36:47Z
Just CFLAGS also works, don't need to use a cmake flag
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 07:36:49Z
did u know there is a shitload of new c++ devs on windows
07:36
idk how they manage
07:36
well they probs do projects without deps
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cuz the moment they need them
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holy shit
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must be rly shit
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Learath2
Just CFLAGS also works, don't need to use a cmake flag
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 07:37:08Z
yeah but you can always change them without cleaning the cmake dir with the -D param
07:37
the env flags are only cached once (first run)
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Ryozuki
did u know there is a shitload of new c++ devs on windows
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 07:38:00Z
probs managed c++ XD
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Ryozuki
idk how they manage
Learath2 2022-03-21 07:38:06Z
Maybe they use vcpkg, heard it's acceptable-ish
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 07:38:52Z
imagine thinking u need a 12gb ram ide when u have vim with cmake
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greenthing
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bloat
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Learath2 2022-03-21 07:39:34Z
I prefer my ide to use 32g, 12g is child numbers, what is that a puny browser?
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Chairn 2022-03-21 07:48:09Z
i think i managed to do it 🙂
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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 09:21:21Z
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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
4cc8157 Added direction enumeration for the editor - Chairn bd5bfa4 clang-format - Chairn dfb0d7d Merge #4851 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4851 Added direction enumeration for the editor
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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 10:44:50Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4853 Cannot compile test suite
Compiling the target run_tests fails with both gcc and clang on the file src/test/score.cpp. cmake -DDEV=ON -DDOWNLOAD_GTEST=ON -DTEST_MYSQL=OFF -GNinja .. && ninja run_tests I do have the libgtest installed: bash $ ll /usr/lib/libg* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1,8M mars 21 03:34 libgtest.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3,9K mars 21 03:34 libgtest_main.a Clang output: ```shell FAILED: CMakeFiles/testrunner.dir/src/test/score.cpp.o /usr/local/bin/clang++ -DCONF_INFORM_UPDATE...
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Chairn 2022-03-21 10:45:27Z
lol, the bot is faster to link that than my browser to load the issue after posting it 😄
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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 10:45:43Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4854 Replace static const in header with extern
This should prevent symbols from being demultiplied in different translation unit. Difference in size is as follow using a release build and no option set with cmake. With clang, difference is inferior to 1kB for any executable. With gcc, client size is reduced by 3.5kB. I couldn't run the test suite (see https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/4853)

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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:05:39Z
@Learath2 deen on macos has a weird bug: his main and graphic thread both wait on the same condition variable both (and all calls made on them, wait, notify) are protected by a mutex the only way this can happen imo is, that a wakeup is lost: But this shouldnt happen with a mutex protecting the condition variable Another possibility is that the graphics thread does not notify the main thread when it started but i purposly added a check https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/68a4404701d53d5ce6d50db19eb0f3337bd67cec/src/engine/client/backend_sdl.cpp I don't see how both threads should ever wait on the condition variable at the same time m_BufferSwapCond Graphic thread waits on: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/68a4404701d53d5ce6d50db19eb0f3337bd67cec/src/engine/client/backend_sdl.cpp#L74 main in call of: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/68a4404701d53d5ce6d50db19eb0f3337bd67cec/src/engine/client/backend_sdl.cpp#L1112
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mhh maybe its bcs of the fallback not cleaning up something correctly
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:14:21Z
Hm, why is there 2 condvars?
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c0d3d3v 2022-03-21 11:14:59Z
I just noticed that many client components use both "m_pClient" and "GameClient()" although "GameClient()" just returns "m_pClient" 😄 Lacks a little consistency. Although "GameClient()" is used significantly less, especially it is used often when also accessing the textures that are loaded in gameclient.
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Learath2
Hm, why is there 2 condvars?
Learath2 2022-03-21 11:17:08Z
@Jupstar ✪ ^^
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:17:20Z
mh yeah not needed, but i doubt that causes the bug
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:17:51Z
It makes it a bit hard for me to reason about the flow, maybe if we clean that up the issue would be more obvious?
11:18
A notify before wait would also be lost, I was trying to look for that but it's not obvious at all
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:18:20Z
possible, but i kinda start to believe we forget to cleanup a thread or smth
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:21:56Z
Anyway, first thing I'd do would be to reduce this to one condvar if possible just so it's easier to reason about
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Sorry, I can't look more into it right now, I can take another look when I get home
11:24
Oh and luckily this happens at the very start of the initialization so it should be easier to debug
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:25:04Z
yeah thanks, weird its not reproducable for me 😦
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:25:44Z
Have you checked that you are both on the same sdl version?
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c0d3d3v
I just noticed that many client components use both "m_pClient" and "GameClient()" although "GameClient()" just returns "m_pClient" 😄 Lacks a little consistency. Although "GameClient()" is used significantly less, especially it is used often when also accessing the textures that are loaded in gameclient.
Ryozuki 2022-03-21 11:26:27Z
i think GameClient was added later
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GameClient should be used imho
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Learath2
Have you checked that you are both on the same sdl version?
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:27:02Z
im not, but since its inside our code i assume its our bug 😄
11:27
or deen didnt rebase correclty or smth xD
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:28:00Z
Well the only thing that comes to my mind from a cursory glance is that 2 condvars 1 mutex being sus
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Especially when they are guarding just one condition
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:28:42Z
but doesnt this make it safe
11:28
that its only one condition
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the same condition
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the one is simple the waiter for main thread the other the waiter for other thread
11:29
that's how they split
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:29:53Z
It sounds safe, but it definitely throws of my in-brain concurrency analyzer 😛
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:29:59Z
😄
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:30:00Z
s/of/off/
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Ryozuki
i think GameClient was added later
c0d3d3v 2022-03-21 11:30:31Z
but why m_pClient is a protected member variable, all components have access to it, why the indirect way over the function call? For access from outside I understand that. Is it about readability or is there another reason?
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:31:27Z
@Jupstar ✪ Oh you are checking m_Started, so it's 2 conds 2 condvars but one is sorta guarding 2 conds
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Maybe just assume best case and spin on m_Started? That's what a futex would do aswell
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Chairn 2022-03-21 11:32:16Z
if both wait for the same condition, maybe it's because the lock order is not the same in both?
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Learath2
Maybe just assume best case and spin on m_Started? That's what a futex would do aswell
Learath2 2022-03-21 11:33:37Z
Since it's a one direction change you can also sleep if you don't want to be busy waiting for it, though it might be better not to yield to the scheduler anyway since the gfx thread will come up very quickly anyway, might aswell keep the cpu
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:34:30Z
i'll just use 1 cond, its not unsafe to have 2 conditions. they are chronological split started never occurs afterwards anymore
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c0d3d3v
but why m_pClient is a protected member variable, all components have access to it, why the indirect way over the function call? For access from outside I understand that. Is it about readability or is there another reason?
Ryozuki 2022-03-21 11:37:26Z
easier refactoring is usually the reason
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Learath2
It sounds safe, but it definitely throws of my in-brain concurrency analyzer 😛
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:44:13Z
now that i think about it, i think thats exactly the problem
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so you are right
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i forgot that condition variables only work bcs they are atomic as soon as you call notify or wait
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and this isnt given with 2 different ones
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:44:50Z
\o/
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:44:51Z
independent of the mutex
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:46:42Z
If you are looking to do m_Started another way, maybe craft an empty buffer and the gfx thread can immediately finish it and set the buffer to nullptr letting you know it's ready for more
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One less variable too
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 11:47:16Z
xd i think i'll let deen test for now
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dont want to overkill for now
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Learath2 2022-03-21 11:47:40Z
Makes sense, hopefully that fixes it up
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:00:34Z
@Jupstar ✪ do you happen to know why this happens?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:00:53Z
what opengl
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Jupstar ✪
what opengl
Learath2 2022-03-21 12:01:59Z
Apparently happens with gl3, @Cøke suggested disabling it would fix it in his map testing channel
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:02:23Z
then its the asset itself i'd say
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:02:31Z
I was just a bit concerned whether a lot of maps exhibit this and testers just disable gl3 instead 😄
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:02:35Z
or driver
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:02:50Z
Nothing wrong with the tileset lol
12:02
It's Client side
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:03:11Z
Can you post the tileset so @Jupstar ✪ can take a look?
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:03:38Z
U can extract (edited)
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I'm not at PC rn
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:03:55Z
I wonder if we have an issue with borderfix or dilate
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:04:31Z
It happens for some more ppl who got a old client or opengl on (edited)
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It's normal 1024x1024
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64x64 tiles
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It's the same I used in multeasy btw
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Ravie 2022-03-21 12:10:40Z
it's 960x960, looks messed up only on gl1 for me
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:11:58Z
Looking messed up on gl1 sounds like it hasn't been borderfixed, but honestly I don't even know if you are supposed to borderfix now
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@Jupstar ✪ I keep forgetting, what is the state of the two renderers? Are they supposed to be giving identical results on a frame by frame basis?
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Ravie 2022-03-21 12:12:54Z
nope, borderfixed tilesets will look messed up on anything newer than gl1
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:13:14Z
And non-borderfixed ones look broken on gl1 still?
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Ravie 2022-03-21 12:13:23Z
ofc
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but in this case it looks more messed up than just no borderadd
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gl must have difficulty with this resolution for some reason
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closer look
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:14:31Z
Yeah that's why this caught my eye. It looked very wrong for some reason
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:15:04Z
I used normal 1024x1024
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Idk why this happens
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Ravie 2022-03-21 12:15:21Z
pipou must have exported at the wrong resolution when he edited it I guess
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:15:42Z
Only Jupstar, master of all 3 gfx backends can save the world
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:15:42Z
yeah trust opengl 3.3 xd
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:15:50Z
That idk, I just fixed the bugged spikes
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Ravie 2022-03-21 12:16:13Z
looks similar to skins that aren't divisible btw, pixelly af
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:16:21Z
so opengl 3.3 3.0 and 2.x should all render it correclty 2.x has no mipmaps so it might look oversharp gl 1.x defs looks shit
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:16:27Z
But why it's fine for me?
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Just don't use the 3.3
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XD
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:16:43Z
what is your GPU?
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Jupstar ✪
so opengl 3.3 3.0 and 2.x should all render it correclty 2.x has no mipmaps so it might look oversharp gl 1.x defs looks shit
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my opengl 1.0
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my opengl 1.0
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:16:57Z
buy new pc xd
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use software opengl renderer
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Jupstar ✪
use software opengl renderer
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:17:08Z
no
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:17:13Z
3.3 is the reference btw, that's what you should be testing on as it's probably going to become the default soon-ish
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Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:17:16Z
directx 10
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plz add
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XD
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:17:33Z
we have vulkan, thats enough
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:17:54Z
Why should we test 3.3 when I don't even use this
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Xf
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:18:01Z
@Cøke open client, press f1 and see what your GPU is
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in purple
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Jupstar ✪
so opengl 3.3 3.0 and 2.x should all render it correclty 2.x has no mipmaps so it might look oversharp gl 1.x defs looks shit
Ravie 2022-03-21 12:19:01Z
gl1 looks shit on all newer maps tbh
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Ravie
gl1 looks shit on all newer maps tbh
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:19:12Z
its 1% of users xd
12:19
and they probs have some weird 4:3 monitors
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Why should we test 3.3 when I don't even use this
Learath2 2022-03-21 12:19:22Z
Because gl1 renderer is almost never the one chosen, so we want the maps to look correct for everyone not the few people that has to use gl1 because of hw/driver issues
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:19:24Z
just ignore xd
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:19:39Z
It's like I have to test a map for ppl with weak PC troll idk if they can load it or not, how should I check it
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Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:19:45Z
troll
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:20:15Z
I bet you also use atleast the gl3 renderer. Almost no one ends up with 1 or even 2 picked
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:20:30Z
only intel GPUs on windows doent use GL 3.0 thats true
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default is 3.0
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:20:36Z
I used nothing, I just fixed the spike
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:20:39Z
Not the 3.3 if you unchecked it I guess. Idk how the settings work now
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Learath2
I bet you also use atleast the gl3 renderer. Almost no one ends up with 1 or even 2 picked
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:20:45Z
many do not have open-angle version 3.3
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YAY
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:20:52Z
yeah unchecking makes it 3.0
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Ravie 2022-03-21 12:20:54Z
maybe it's possible to make a workaround in gl1 to fix this borderadd bug? seems like just some issue with texture coords
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:20:58Z
Ich habe aber AMD @Jupstar ✪
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Cøke
Ich habe aber AMD @Jupstar ✪
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:21:10Z
latest client?
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:21:25Z
Ne aber relativ neu
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:21:48Z
anyway, then its a driver bug 3.0 and 3.3 use the same shader
12:21
i dont see why they should look different at all
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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 12:21:59Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4855 feature-request: point indicator ingame
Hi, I play ddnet for some time on and off and did not manage to get a good rank. (about 200 points) For me it would be nice to have a point indicator in the game. Like in minecraft: #### motivation This is not to make beginners feel more intimidated, and make tw more apart, but to motivate people like me to get points. (I just stick around at the beginning of brutal maps). #### other / following ideas
  • have a wikipedia base of map recommendations similar to a 'quest guide': [opt...
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:22:02Z
(for tile maps to be precise)
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many do not have open-angle version 3.3
Learath2 2022-03-21 12:22:37Z
Wym? For a gpu not to support opengl 3.3 you need to go back like 3 decades
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Wym? For a gpu not to support opengl 3.3 you need to go back like 3 decades
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:23:05Z
no
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no
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:23:26Z
can you post your hardware?
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Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:23:36Z
oka
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:23:50Z
But I wonder why the old tileset works, just for a few ppl with very old client doesn't work
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The tileset from Multeasy
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:24:04Z
old client = broken
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anything before ddnet 14 should be broken
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:24:21Z
win7 is out of life
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win7 is out of life
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:24:35Z
no
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NO
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:24:43Z
just accept the truth
12:24
the industry doesnt wait for win7 for ever
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the industry doesnt wait for win7 for ever
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:24:59Z
NOOO
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:25:09Z
@Deleted User so you don’t have a gpu? Just integrated gfx?
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@Deleted User so you don’t have a gpu? Just integrated gfx?
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:25:20Z
ye
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pc 2007 year
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2008*
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:25:48Z
intel says its form 2009, it should actually atleast have GL 2.1
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:25:49Z
So many blocked massages lol
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Cøke
So many blocked massages lol
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:26:01Z
cammo
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The tileset from Multeasy
Ravie 2022-03-21 12:26:03Z
no it's edited and the one with new spikes is 960x960
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:26:18Z
switch to linux then it might work xd
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no it's edited and the one with new spikes is 960x960
Cøke 2022-03-21 12:26:27Z
Ok idk why pipou did this
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Was thinking he know the size
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switch to linux then it might work xd
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:26:49Z
no
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:27:13Z
then use software rendering or accept that your pc is dead
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i bet the integrated GPU isnt much faster than the CPU
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:27:27Z
I guess there are iGPUs that are 1.5 decades old that don’t support 3.3
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Ravie
no it's edited and the one with new spikes is 960x960
Cøke 2022-03-21 12:27:30Z
What u mean edited
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then use software rendering or accept that your pc is dead
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:27:33Z
tried
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:27:55Z
But 2.1 still renders the same way so mappers should test on 3.3
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:28:18Z
https://github.com/pal1000/mesa-dist-win/releases/download/22.0.0-2/mesa3d-22.0.0-r2-release-msvc.7z unpack this, copy all .dll into ddnet directory x86 for 32bit x64 for 64bit
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Ravie 2022-03-21 12:28:26Z
@Cøke it was opened, altered and saved again
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cauldron 2022-03-21 12:28:57Z
>DDraceNetwork always welcomes creative maps you made and ideas for new DDRace features you have. https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/4855
feature-request: point indicator ingame · Issue #4855 · ddnet/ddnet
Hi, I play ddnet for some time on and off and did not manage to get a good rank. (about 200 points) For me it would be nice to have a point indicator in the game. Like in minecraft: motivation This...
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@Cøke it was opened, altered and saved again
Cøke 2022-03-21 12:29:51Z
I have used another for clues, but deleted the complete old one
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Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:30:01Z
why not use directx instead of opengl?
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troll
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Ravie 2022-03-21 12:30:24Z
when jupstar finishes vulkan and is bored again troll
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:30:35Z
we have vulkan, why bother with dx
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:30:48Z
intel core 2 duo lmao
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:30:58Z
why downgrade rendering for a person that wants to stick to win7 so desperatly xd
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:31:00Z
Bei mir kommt morgens auch immer der Vulkan aufn pott
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:31:07Z
u can buy a raspberry pi 4 for 50€ and have a better pc
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:31:26Z
ttrue xd
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Deleted User
why not use directx instead of opengl?
Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:32:16Z
we do not embrace propietary
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intel core 2 duo lmao
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:32:17Z
HEHEHEHA
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:32:39Z
iif u have a pc from 2008 its ur fault
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xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:32:52Z
i am always suprised these machines still work
12:32
i'd assume the coolers fail at some point
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:33:14Z
well maybe rly old processors dont heat that much
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well maybe rly old processors dont heat that much
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:33:33Z
yes
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:33:37Z
@Jupstar ✪ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4YPcDeyYd0
oijkue
Intel Core 2 Duo E4500,running naked,without heatsink & fan
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Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:33:39Z
120
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:33:44Z
there u have
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:33:47Z
ok and 2008 is also "just" 14 years xd
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Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:33:47Z
degrees
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120 degrees
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Jupstar ✪
why downgrade rendering for a person that wants to stick to win7 so desperatly xd
Learath2 2022-03-21 12:34:04Z
I wonder if he can even run win10 tbf. What even is a core2duo at this point
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:34:13Z
its better to use linux
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its better to use linux
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:34:35Z
no
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:34:38Z
yeah for old hardware its a must have
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:34:40Z
yes
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yes
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n
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:34:46Z
except you playing win98 games xD
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except you playing win98 games xD
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:34:54Z
Wtf
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:34:55Z
this guy is just trolling
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:34:59Z
i know
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:35:03Z
I can’t upgrade to win11 because my mobo from 2014 doesn’t have a TPM
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:35:13Z
there is no benefit anyway
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I can’t upgrade to win11 because my mobo from 2014 doesn’t have a TPM
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:35:14Z
yay
12:35
200 degrees
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:35:19Z
u will get #ads in ur file browser
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Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:35:20Z
nice
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Jupstar ✪
except you playing win98 games xD
Learath2 2022-03-21 12:35:20Z
Win98 games work like a charm under wine
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 12:35:33Z
yeah except if they have CD lock
12:35
that always sucks hard
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Ryozuki
there is no benefit anyway
Learath2 2022-03-21 12:35:53Z
I don’t want to anyway, so it’s good that there is something stopping it from auto upgrading while I sleep
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:35:54Z
@Learath2 use https://reactos.org/
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to play old win games
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yeah except if they have CD lock
Learath2 2022-03-21 12:36:29Z
I remember downloading NoCD patches when I was a young lad
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:36:38Z
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Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:36:51Z
WTF HOLY JESUS
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:36:53Z
modern opengl OFF
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:37:01Z
whats with this guy reaction
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Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:37:17Z
hehehe
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oka
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Learath2 2022-03-21 12:37:20Z
How is he getting 4.6 with modern gl off @Jupstar ✪?
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:37:22Z
greenthing
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greenthing
Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:37:30Z
im dead
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:38:14Z
why r u on rc
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when 15.9.1 is out
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:38:44Z
i dont like manual update
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and a new version was bugged for me so i changed back
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:39:33Z
whats the bug
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:41:02Z
it's been a while i don't know exactly, but what i can remember is that the editor crashed often
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worked over hours on a map -> crash -> all for nothing so i changed to the better version justatest
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Deleted User 2022-03-21 12:41:45Z
bruhs
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 12:42:13Z
this reminded me of https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/58-sales-and-over-38-of-bug-reports-from-linux-said-one-dev-but-its-been-helpful/
5.8% sales and over 38% of bug reports from Linux said one dev but ...
According to Kodera Software, developer of the space sim ΔV: Rings of Saturn, quite a lot of bug reports come from Linux users considering the smaller share but that's not actually a bad thing.
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Cøke 2022-03-21 12:47:50Z
@Jupstar ✪ come on test server
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i changed to 1024x1024 and looks like the same
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still opengl off
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 13:21:39Z
wtf how did it try directx 12 first, guess mesa 22 changed smth 😄 sry didnt know
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wtf how did it try directx 12 first, guess mesa 22 changed smth 😄 sry didnt know
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ok
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How is he getting 4.6 with modern gl off @Jupstar ✪?
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 13:22:11Z
its just a string reported by the driver, not the chosen backend
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@Jupstar ✪ come on test server
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 13:22:42Z
ok
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ogl 1.x
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3.0
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3.3
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vulkan (not implemented by AMD, so maybe interesting)
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except 1.x i dont really see a difference
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@Cøke
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Voxel 2022-03-21 13:32:09Z
are they meant to look any different? or being the same the best route?
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Learath2 2022-03-21 13:32:23Z
Being same is good
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Smetanolub 2022-03-21 13:39:49Z
?
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what should i look at
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ReiTW 2022-03-21 14:14:34Z
hllo I didn't use the leak command on f1 but my client seem to use the old way (I don't see EUR, etc.. but ping), any idea?
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Learath2 2022-03-21 14:15:32Z
After you connect once to a server the ping will be cached, maybe that's what you are seeing
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ReiTW 2022-03-21 14:17:39Z
@Learath2 I didn't connect to all servers from the list
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ogl 1.x
Cøke 2022-03-21 14:20:41Z
and why is this now bugged?
14:20
used now 1024x1024
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 14:20:55Z
wait i come
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Chairn 2022-03-21 14:35:39Z
@deen i think we need to select which switch statement we want to assert and which are inoffensive
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deen 2022-03-21 14:37:59Z
yeah, probably
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that's the difficult choice 😄
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Chairn 2022-03-21 14:40:51Z
can't you set a grep to look for all the dbg_msg to see if they are often triggerred?
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zzzzzzz 2022-03-21 14:43:35Z
how do i reset mouse sensor value back to normal
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i used bind x "+toggle inp_mousesens 1 100000000"
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can't you set a grep to look for all the dbg_msg to see if they are often triggerred?
deen 2022-03-21 14:44:08Z
in practice no one does that, but when server crashes it gets noticed
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inp_mousesens 200
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and with just a dbg_msg it can be difficult to debug, a coredump helps more
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[ddnet:master] 6 new commits
e54da1b Cleanup backend a bit for vulkan - Jupeyy 14ac5cf lazy load editor textures - Jupeyy e572704 Multithreaded video rendering - Jupeyy fbeba9e Add Vulkan backend - Jupeyy ccca162 fix bors - def- e632859 Merge #4687 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3547 Crash in video recorder
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4687 Add Vulkan backend
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 14:47:31Z
heartw heartw
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finally xd
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now i can rebase all my stuff xD
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@deen for the changelog you can also add that the video renderer got an upgrade, wanna see if it runs correctly for everyone
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then they might purposly test it
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Learath2 2022-03-21 14:49:53Z
Oooh we have a VK backend now
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 14:50:52Z
@Cellegen | HU do you own the generic unhookable as SVG? and if, are they accurate?
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4856 Fix some Windows build warnings
``` /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/engine/client/backend/vulkan/backend_vulkan.cpp: In member function ‘void CCommandProcessorFragment_Vulkan::VerboseAllocatedMemory(VkDeviceSize, size_t, CCommandProcessorFragment_Vulkan::EMemoryBlockUsage)’: /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/engine/client/backend/vulkan/backend_vulkan.cpp:92:74: warning: unknown conversion type character ‘z’ in format [-Wformat=] 92 | dbg_msg("vulkan", "allocated chunk of memory with size: ...
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@Cellegen | HU do you own the generic unhookable as SVG? and if, are they accurate?
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justatest
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i can make it today if you want
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 15:11:34Z
poggers
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vulkan by jupstar
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BASED 🍷
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aPES_Wine
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time to celebrate
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and also time to find broken drivers
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doesnt it build artifacts
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the checks
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i dont want to compile on windows (edited)
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wanna compare
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found it
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https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/suites/5738919643/artifacts/190259741
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4857 No error when spv files failed to be created
[100%] Generating DDNet-16.0-rc1-win64.zip Error copying file "/home/deen/isos/ddnet/win64/data/shader/vulkan/prim.frag.spv" to "pack_DDNet-16.0-rc1-win64_zip/DDNet-16.0-rc1-win64/data/shader/vulkan/prim.frag.spv". No error when spv files failed to be created, instead only the packing fails.
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 15:17:15Z
is it normal i defaults to opengl 3?
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2200 fps on a full mult server
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its poggers
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@Jupstar ✪ does it give more fps to increase the render thread count
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 15:20:11Z
more consistent frames probs
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 15:20:15Z
mine is at 3
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i guess u set it at half of real cores
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Voxel 2022-03-21 15:23:08Z
thinking about making accurate gameskin svg today (edited)
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Cellegen | HU 2022-03-21 15:25:57Z
ah yes, finally somebody helps 😛
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i guess u set it at half of real cores
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 15:26:25Z
no i set it to 3 always
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3 gives really good results already
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on ARM theoretically it can improve efficiency to use more cores
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 15:26:53Z
@Jupstar ✪
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 15:26:55Z
since its not more work
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 15:26:58Z
a intel core 2 duo
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 15:27:01Z
just same work on all cores
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 15:27:01Z
with 3 render threads
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monkalaugh
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 15:27:06Z
XD
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4858 Fail when shader can't be compiled (fixes #4857)

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  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
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  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4859 Fix Debian 9 compilation

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4860 Only try exe on Windows

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deen 2022-03-21 16:07:00Z
@Jupstar ✪ I'm installing https://github.com/KhronosGroup/glslang manually since glslang tools are not available on Debian 9
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Khronos-reference front end for GLSL/ESSL, partial front end for HLSL, and a SPIR-V generator. - GitHub - KhronosGroup/glslang: Khronos-reference front end for GLSL/ESSL, partial front end for HLSL...
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Version differences shouldn't matter, right? I just took the latest
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@Jupstar ✪ I'm installing https://github.com/KhronosGroup/glslang manually since glslang tools are not available on Debian 9
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 16:22:41Z
ok
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Version differences shouldn't matter, right? I just took the latest
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should be fine
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deen 2022-03-21 16:29:03Z
vulkan_core.h does not exist in Debian 9's libvulkan-dev
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 16:30:39Z
does it compile without?
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deen 2022-03-21 16:31:37Z
Yes, well that was easy 😄
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ah no
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just failed a bit later
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/ddnet-source/src/engine/client/backend/vulkan/backend_vulkan.cpp:983:2: error: ‘VkDebugUtilsMessengerEXT’ does not name a type VkDebugUtilsMessengerEXT m_DebugMessenger; ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /ddnet-source/src/engine/client/backend/vulkan/backend_vulkan.cpp:3932:56: error: ‘VkDebugUtilsMessageSeverityFlagBitsEXT’ has not been declared static VKAPI_ATTR VkBool32 VKAPI_CALL VKDebugCallback(VkDebugUtilsMessageSeverityFlagBitsEXT MessageSeverity, VkDebugUtilsMessageTypeFlagsEXT MessageType, const VkDebugUtilsMessengerCallbackDataEXT *pCallbackData, void *pUserData) ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 16:32:57Z
there is VK_EXT_debug_utils
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a define
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let me add that check
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4861 Check if debug utils are available

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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 16:43:20Z
ddnet 16 changelog really has alot of various contributors doesnt it?
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4856 Fix some Windows build warnings
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4862 Fix GCC 6.3.0 compilation

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lol, and some people mocked me for using gcc 7 😄
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ddnet 16 changelog really has alot of various contributors doesnt it?
deen 2022-03-21 16:52:36Z
yes
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 16:53:06Z
its actually more sad that this is legit c++17 code
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deen 2022-03-21 16:53:37Z
Hm, I guess GCC 6.3.0 doesn't support C++17 as well as expected
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 16:54:01Z
anyway
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2023 debian 9 dies
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then we upgrade xdd
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deen 2022-03-21 16:54:12Z
yeah
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 16:54:12Z
mark these words
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deen 2022-03-21 16:54:15Z
😄
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 16:56:15Z
noted
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ddnet 16 changelog really has alot of various contributors doesnt it?
Tater 2022-03-21 17:01:21Z
is it possible to see the changelog already?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:01:41Z
not as a log, but as commits
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Tater 2022-03-21 17:01:45Z
ah ok
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:01:47Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/compare/15.9.1...master
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[ddnet-web:pr-16.0] 1 new commit
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[ddnet/ddnet-web] New branch created: pr-16.0
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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #181 Version 16.0
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[ddnet:master] 4 new commits
3341fb1 Fail when shader can't be compiled (fixes #4857) - def- 8adc1ca Fix Debian 9 compilation - def- ed9f285 Only try exe on Windows - def- f95cc6c Merge #4858 #4859 #4860 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4857 No error when spv files failed to be created
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4860 Only try exe on Windows
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4858 Fail when shader can't be compiled (fixes #4857)
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4859 Fix Debian 9 compilation
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is it possible to see the changelog already?
deen 2022-03-21 17:09:12Z
You can check the list here: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web/pull/181/files
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[ddnet-web:pr-16.0] 1 new commit
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[ddnet:16.0-rc1] 7 new commits
3cbf4ae Version 16.0 - def- 7c1d867 Fix some Windows build warnings - def- 1731e0e Fail when shader can't be compiled (fixes #4857) - def- ff9b1fd Fix Debian 9 compilation - def- 1ece6e5 Only try exe on Windows - def- 135760b Fix GCC 6.3.0 compilation - def- bf2225c Check if debug utils are available - Jupeyy
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:12:49Z
nice i already enjoy the 1 trillion crash logs we'll get now xd
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deen 2022-03-21 17:13:05Z
Better than crash reports without crash logs
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:13:09Z
😉
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deen 2022-03-21 17:13:36Z
"It crashed, I did nothing special" is pretty annoying to debug
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:13:41Z
true
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lets hope drmingw works good enough. I only tested it a bit yet with a friend^^
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[ddnet-web:pr-16.0] 1 new commit
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poggers 3
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4862 Fix GCC 6.3.0 compilation
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4863 Version 16.0
DDNet 16.0 is supposed to release in 1 week, assuming no bad bugs are found. Please test the Release Candidate to prevent problems being only discovered after release. Report bugs in the #bugs channel on DDNet Discord or directly on Github: !153449066-38d8741b-60c1-4c0c-ba50-57cc07aa2f9d ![155854241-9e07a5b2-1915-41d4-86c9-b2084ff6b929](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/2335377/15...
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Voxel 2022-03-21 17:50:04Z
WIP accurate gameskin SVG building from the ground up to make it as grounded and close as possible
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nori 2022-03-21 17:50:58Z
woah vulkan backend :D
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:51:01Z
cool, @mind ^ 😄
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nori 2022-03-21 17:51:28Z
@Jupstar ✪ i can use it on wayland without any tweak right?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:51:44Z
should just work ™️ i had crashes tho
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but not in the driver
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in the window manager xD
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nori 2022-03-21 17:52:10Z
lol
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:52:19Z
well kde wayland is not really finished
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so i guess thats fair
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:52:32Z
wayland bloat X ez
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:52:38Z
xd
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:52:51Z
do u rly use wayland
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with locked vsync
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:53:16Z
yeah thats the K.O. argument still xd
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mind 2022-03-21 17:53:17Z
@Voxel you only need to do the hammer, I already have all the other stuff 😄 (I even have a hammer, but I used the old 0.6 game.png for it)
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nori 2022-03-21 17:53:27Z
@Ryozuki yeah i don't feel any lag
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:53:37Z
i do
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:53:41Z
xd
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vsync war
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nori 2022-03-21 17:53:49Z
@Ryozuki i use sway with freesync i dunno does it makes difference
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@Voxel you only need to do the hammer, I already have all the other stuff 😄 (I even have a hammer, but I used the old 0.6 game.png for it)
Voxel 2022-03-21 17:53:50Z
Oh alright! Thanks for telling
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:53:52Z
@Learath2 join the war
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:54:07Z
@mind team up xd
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Learath2 2022-03-21 17:54:18Z
What are we fighting about?
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:54:36Z
vsync
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:54:39Z
ah nothing special. the old ppl like vsync xd
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or dont notice xd
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Learath2 2022-03-21 17:54:49Z
I don't want to, because Jupstar is too mean
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:54:53Z
old ppl aka 27y old +
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:55:11Z
the old "ppl like vsync"
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:55:15Z
ah
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xd
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murpi 2022-03-21 17:55:30Z
Would it be possible to add a option to sort the scoreboard by ID? It would help identifying people right next to eachother more easily
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died to the bird ahead
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Would it be possible to add a option to sort the scoreboard by ID? It would help identifying people right next to eachother more easily
Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:56:00Z
@Jupstar ✪ make a algorithm that adds arrows to names in a smart way and names are separated
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2222 ddnet
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hud
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Patiga 2022-03-21 17:56:23Z
or maybe just that the tee you hover over has its nameplate on top
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:56:37Z
yeah a cursor mode would be nice
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for scoreboard and spectating
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:58:02Z
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.17-Released
Linux 5.17 Released With AMD P-State Driver, Plenty Of New Hardware...
Following the one week delay to the release schedule, Linus Torvalds issued the Linux 5.17 stable release a short time ago.
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4861 Check if debug utils are available
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https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.17-Released
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:58:47Z
amd is such a huge contributor in linux kernel xd
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:58:51Z
xD
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nvidia should take notes
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 17:59:00Z
amdgpu is like 2-3mios isnt it
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 17:59:11Z
monkaS
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- Most significant on the AMD side is the new AMD P-State driver for Zen 2 and newer systems with ACPI CPPC support exposed by the platform. AMD P-State is aimed to provide greater desktop/mobile power efficiency than the ACPI CPUFreq driver. I'll have out some fresh benchmarks soon.
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:00:39Z
for me my motherboard is still the most unefficient thing xD
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cpu and gpu are ok
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:01:17Z
if u own a M1 mac turn to freedom with https://asahilinux.org/
Asahi Linux
Porting Linux to Apple Silicon
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stallman will smile at you
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:01:32Z
xd
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:01:38Z
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/tj12vw/hugo_runs_twice_as_fast_in_asahi_linux_than_macos/
r/linux - Hugo runs twice as fast in Asahi Linux than macOS on the ...
644 votes and 152 comments so far on Reddit
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:01:58Z
yeah i hope they have a working vulkan driver soon xddd
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finally gotta see what M1 can do
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ngl best feature of ddnet 16 is select search string on CTRL+F XD
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i use it so often
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Tater 2022-03-21 18:04:48Z
is that for the server browser search?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:04:52Z
yes
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HappyFray 2022-03-21 18:21:42Z
is the New Vulkan graphics renderer in nightly ?
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i dont have it yet
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deen 2022-03-21 18:22:07Z
no
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only in rc1, will be in nightly in 6 hours 😉
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HappyFray 2022-03-21 18:22:34Z
alright thanks! i really want try it out
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deen 2022-03-21 18:22:36Z
since we build nightly at fixed times, but release candidates when we prepare for a new release
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HappyFray 2022-03-21 18:23:31Z
so its in the release canditates now? ok ill try it out
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deen 2022-03-21 18:26:22Z
yes
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HappyFray 2022-03-21 18:28:42Z
ok i have like 10% more fps and they are waaaaay more stable! i like that!
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:28:55Z
yeah the 2nd point is where vulkan shines
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much better frame times
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more fps in CPU bound scenarios mostly so opening scoreboard or many tees visible
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HappyFray 2022-03-21 18:30:18Z
another mate has from 2.5k fps to 4-5k
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:30:25Z
😮
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LETS GO
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:34:36Z
BASED
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Paralix 2022-03-21 18:34:45Z
i have a problem with the client, after some time i get fps lags, but if i switch resolution it fixes itselfi have a problem with the client, after some time i get fps lags, but if i switch resolution it fixes itself
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:35:17Z
ryozucki posted the solution
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xd
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:35:22Z
xd
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Paralix 2022-03-21 18:35:46Z
WHERE D.D
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:36:19Z
use release candinate see #announcements
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furo BOT 2022-03-21 18:41:22Z
Enabling Vulkan and then opening DDNet with DDNET_DRIVER=GLES. A new "custom (Vulkan 3.0.0)" pops up
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:41:32Z
@Jupstar ✪
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:41:37Z
yeeah not really a bug
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you are free to set the driver version
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since DDNET_DRIVER is set manually
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you can also do gfx_backend Ryo-OS
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:43:16Z
is it called vulkan because your computer will melt afterwards?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:43:30Z
if you are german yes
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or is vulkan also french?
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:43:49Z
@Jupstar ✪ vulkan logo is made by AMD and DICE
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xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:43:56Z
nice xd
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vulkan is generally made by AMD
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mental api
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:44:23Z
mantle
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Paralix 2022-03-21 18:44:27Z
but is it normal that I have sti lag with the good pc?
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:44:29Z
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_(API)
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:44:33Z
well vulkan sounds and looks like volcan in french
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_(API)
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:44:42Z
ez
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:44:45Z
and vulcanology is volcano science
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well vulkan sounds and looks like volcan in french
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:44:52Z
in german its literally vulkan xd
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:45:13Z
literally cast from the hell forge 😄
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but is it normal that I have sti lag with the good pc?
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:45:31Z
can happen thorugh: overheating bad PSU broken hardware(not correctly attached)
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update drivers
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ah
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and i read disable discord on windows
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few ppl swear on it
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Paralix 2022-03-21 18:46:39Z
now i try the beta client
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:46:50Z
yeah maybe vulkan can fix it
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opengl support is really dated
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:49:33Z
do i need to install a lib to compile new version?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:49:45Z
git submodule update
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:49:54Z
i just made a fresh clone
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with recurse-submodules
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:50:07Z
what does it complain about
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:50:13Z
COMMAND;GLSLANG_VALIDATOR_PROGRAM-NOTFOUND;
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:50:50Z
ah
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i see the bug
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do git revert ed9f285071ac0296ac5545c5769b70fe46908238
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and tell me if it works
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deen 2022-03-21 18:51:55Z
that's my hash 😦
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:52:09Z
nope
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doesnt work
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:52:19Z
ok weird
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deen 2022-03-21 18:52:37Z
what OS are you on @Chairn ?
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On Linux, yes, dependencies required
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they are in README.md
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:53:01Z
i think chairn is on old debian
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:53:06Z
he is on windows
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:53:09Z
ah
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:53:22Z
at least last time we talked xd
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:53:30Z
no, im on ubuntu18.04 right no
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 18:53:37Z
weird
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:53:39Z
ubuntu 20 needed
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:53:43Z
😦
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:53:46Z
or install glslangvalidator manually
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ubuntu 18 dies in april
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no need to support xd
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ok 2023
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but still xd
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why old stable on desktop pc
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4864 mapping when you slice quad and then press on " Square " it rotates this qauds
Texnonik reports:
mapping when you slice quad and then press on " Square " it rotates this qauds
!bf49fd5020f79559cc7ba1e105e3e4cc @HiRavie could this be caused by your change?
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Chairn 2022-03-21 18:55:05Z
this one?
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https://github.com/KhronosGroup/glslang/releases/tag/11.7.0
Release Merge pull request #2816 from greg-lunarg/v11.7.0 · Khronos...
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ok 2023
Chairn 2022-03-21 18:55:25Z
yup 5years LTS
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 18:55:26Z
yes i think so
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deen 2022-03-21 18:57:00Z
yeah, I also built that @Chairn
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for the official build vms
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Chairn 2022-03-21 19:00:12Z
ah it seems to work
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building ddnet now
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well run_tests still fail
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 19:03:28Z
we used ubuntu 18 ci until 2h ago
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what does fail?
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Chairn 2022-03-21 19:03:48Z
src/test/scores.cpp
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https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/4853
Cannot compile test suite · Issue #4853 · ddnet/ddnet
Compiling the target run_tests fails with both gcc and clang on the file src/test/score.cpp. cmake -DDEV=ON -DDOWNLOAD_GTEST=ON -DTEST_MYSQL=OFF -GNinja .. && ninja run_tests I do h...
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just tried with the fresh clone and same results 😦
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 19:04:39Z
just update to ubuntu 20 xD
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Voxel 2022-03-21 19:16:11Z
update on the hammer: so far the fault% is very subtle, but still noticeable when comparing in game
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this is extremely difficult LOL
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Ravie 2022-03-21 19:26:54Z
that doesn't look too accurate justatest
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murpi 2022-03-21 19:30:57Z
timakro are you there?
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 19:33:09Z
Embedded image
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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someone forgot to gitignore dat bitsh
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@jupjapjatsur
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SOS
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Astramast 2022-03-21 19:36:17Z
#questions come 2s
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4865 Add vulkan_shaders_sha256.txt to gitignore pls
@Jupeyy vulkan_shaders_sha256.txt tracked by git
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Tater 2022-03-21 20:03:20Z
:o the vulkan renderer is fast 5000 fps -> 8500fps
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:o the vulkan renderer is fast 5000 fps -> 8500fps
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:04:07Z
wtf 8500 is good, are you on windows or linux?
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Tater 2022-03-21 20:04:24Z
windows
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I have a 3070 and 5600x
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:05:51Z
ok nice
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Tater 2022-03-21 20:06:23Z
it's a bit overkill for teeworlds xD
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:06:45Z
true, but nice fps xd
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Tater 2022-03-21 20:07:32Z
0.075ms less input delay
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:07:59Z
ez xd
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4866 Add some files & dirs to .gitignore
.cache is for clangd vulkan_shaders_sha256.txt also added build*/ for all build dirs. Is there any drawback why we don't do that, is it bad style to do that? I have quite a lot of stuff in my build dirs callgrind info and so on fixes #4865

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:29:39Z
chillerdragon how fast are u
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what bot do you have xD
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one that write poggers on linked issues xDDD
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that doesn't look too accurate justatest
Voxel 2022-03-21 20:31:36Z
i wish there was an easier way to compare the base and the svg with inkscape ...
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i know exactly what type of thing id want but its too much to ask for tbh
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:41:29Z
@Jupstar ✪ i always got github open on 2nd monitor and mostly there is my last issue/pr the power of ajax gives me instant feedback even while playing tw xd
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n000b 2022-03-21 20:42:47Z
The big jupstar updatepoggers
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:42:56Z
pogstar
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Ta!zenyuki 2022-03-21 20:43:53Z
DDNet (Teeworlds) runnin with Lua script right?
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:44:04Z
?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:44:13Z
xD now comes the programming language war
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:44:16Z
fak irc got no reply support
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:44:18Z
@Ryozuki @Learath2 come
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Ta!zenyuki 2022-03-21 20:44:28Z
:D
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:44:29Z
bash > lua
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change my mind
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:44:36Z
rust > lua
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change ryos mind
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:44:41Z
bash > rust
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:44:52Z
lua is like a bad dream
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factorio uses lua for modding
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thats why i never modded factorio
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sad life
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:45:07Z
xD
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:45:14Z
bam uses lua so lua is great
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:45:21Z
xdd
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:45:25Z
#makeddnetbamagain
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:45:30Z
chillerdragon still bam support
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til the end
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:45:35Z
yes
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Ta!zenyuki 2022-03-21 20:45:42Z
i just was wandering
20:45
greenthing
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:45:45Z
i wish we had 3 build systems
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bam, autoconf and cmake
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:46:15Z
auto make
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:46:15Z
autoconf is nice because it uses shell
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:46:16Z
bro
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plsss
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:46:26Z
shell is always good
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:46:54Z
i only say that if we used rust we wouldnt see deen creating issues with segfaults
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BASED
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:47:03Z
lol
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:47:08Z
but with panics xd
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:47:15Z
way easier to debug
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:47:17Z
its not a c++ issue
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its a deen issue
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:47:25Z
xD
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:47:28Z
if he wouldnt create them all would be good
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:47:34Z
xd
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:47:35Z
well its cuz its only deen who makes issues with segfaults
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:47:35Z
ez
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:47:44Z
cuz he has the servers
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nori 2022-03-21 20:48:36Z
well, i get lower fps on vulkan strange :d
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:48:47Z
wayland monkalaugh
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:48:57Z
how to test da vulkan that gave me so many headache during merge ?
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nori 2022-03-21 20:49:11Z
what is wayland relevant ? :D
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:49:26Z
cuz it locks ur vsync
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Vy0x2 2022-03-21 20:49:27Z
You guys know why i get CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:614 (message): You must install Vulkan libraries to compile the DDNet client even tho i installed it and the env flag is set?
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:49:29Z
monkalaugh
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:49:45Z
i get pretty much same fps between x and wayland for vk
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-03-21 20:49:52Z
i use X11 BTW
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:50:02Z
nori u had AMDGPU right?
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radeonsi is simply better in GPU bound
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:50:19Z
rly?
20:50
i use amdgpu too
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nori 2022-03-21 20:50:26Z
no i mean it's lower then my display speed
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yeah i use amdgpu
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:50:55Z
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radv-radeonsi-13&num=2
6-Way RadeonSI OpenGL vs. RADV Vulkan Comparison
JavaScript is required to view these results or log-in to Phoronix Premium. Dota 2 at 1080p showed the RadeonSI performance generally leading over the unofficial RADV Vulkan driver.
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bit dated
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but probs never caught up
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:51:49Z
i feel thats a lie
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:51:53Z
so to sum up depends on the task
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:51:56Z
2017 is old
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:52:10Z
yeah but open scoreboard on 64p server with vulkan and OGL
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then u see how vulkan crushes OGL
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nori 2022-03-21 20:52:33Z
i just zoomout to test it
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i had 300 fps on opengl and 30 fps on vulkan
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:52:58Z
zoom out is gpu bound, but thats really bad fps
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i have almost identical
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dunno, try to update driver i guess xd
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nori 2022-03-21 20:53:28Z
it's rolling release distro so latest :D
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:53:38Z
then downgrade xD
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or try x xD
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nori 2022-03-21 20:54:12Z
nah i am very happy with wayland
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no compositor configuration or no tearing
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happy
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:54:35Z
ok lets not start this again xD
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:54:41Z
lmao vsync
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:54:42Z
just file a bug report
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on amd's freedesktop gitlab
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nori 2022-03-21 20:55:01Z
it doesn't matter vsync or not if you don't feel lag
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:55:10Z
PES_Old
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:55:25Z
frozen
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nori 2022-03-21 20:56:59Z
btw i also bought amdgpu to use wayland so i am never gonna back to xorg xD
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:57:15Z
yeah idc tbh xD
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:57:17Z
u cant buy amdgpu
20:57
its a free driver
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:57:28Z
but i have amdgpu and good fps xdd
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Ryozuki
its a free driver
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:57:43Z
troll
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 20:58:14Z
the wayland devs not allowing to disable vsync is just being jerks
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon
autoconf is nice because it uses shell
Learath2 2022-03-21 20:58:33Z
You know automake is called autohell for a reason right? 😄
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 20:58:35Z
they just trolls xd
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Ryozuki
the wayland devs not allowing to disable vsync is just being jerks
Learath2 2022-03-21 21:00:12Z
It's "I know better than the user syndrome", I bet wayland is a freedesktop.org project
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 21:00:13Z
"It won't break the principle of "every frame is perfect" for anything but games; any sane non-game application will never even consider an immediate presentation mode and most compositors will ignore the request for any non-fullscreen windows. " This is simply a k.o. argument
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not like my compositor doesnt also do vsync, it just gets disabled on games
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Learath2 2022-03-21 21:01:10Z
I know another freedesktop.org project that knows better than all users
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 21:01:19Z
go ahead
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i love these flame wars xd
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 21:01:27Z
its initrc
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Learath2 2022-03-21 21:01:27Z
s*stemd
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 21:01:28Z
right
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 21:01:31Z
xDD
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 21:01:52Z
gentoo is bloat cuz u have to download sources
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so it bloats
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troll
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Learath2 2022-03-21 21:02:29Z
jokes on you, you can actually not keep sources with a simple portage patch
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 21:02:48Z
its actually a bit bloat because with the 3rd stage u get manuals in shitload of languages u dont know
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half the unzip time is manual lang files
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xd
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Learath2 2022-03-21 21:03:54Z
troll
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Ryozuki 2022-03-21 21:04:01Z
troll1
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bencie 2022-03-21 21:04:23Z
heyo, is this a new update with 16.0 where if you spectate someone, you can still see yourself on scoreboard, you dont go into Spectators section
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intentional or bug?
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louis 2022-03-21 21:05:59Z
probably something to do with [Server] Fix specteam 1 not showing teammates while spectating/freecam in solo [sjrc6]
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Tater 2022-03-21 21:06:29Z
for me it still puts me in the spectators
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louis 2022-03-21 21:06:30Z
i think that's a good change anyways tho
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Tater
for me it still puts me in the spectators
bencie 2022-03-21 21:06:43Z
in rc1
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Tater 2022-03-21 21:06:50Z
rc1?
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bencie 2022-03-21 21:07:01Z
release candidates, #announcements
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Tater 2022-03-21 21:07:03Z
yeah
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I'm using that
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bencie 2022-03-21 21:08:26Z
for reference
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new vs old
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Tater 2022-03-21 21:10:22Z
oh
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you're right huh
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if I build the client myself I don't get this issue, only from the steam version
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 21:17:25Z
lol true
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weird stuff
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Faulty 2022-03-21 21:21:45Z
Hi, do you know, is it possible to create by default disabled laser doors, disabled laser hooks, etc. on switch layer? I know that it is possible to set a turn off tile on way earlier on the map, but this is not suitable in my case. If this is not possible, maybe someone knows how incompatible it would be to add a switch button (default on/of) (same way as number and delay field placed) for this behavior to the editor? Or maybe add one more door tile that disabled by default. Does it make sense to create an issue?
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T tee 2022-03-21 21:22:03Z
yes
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there's a command for that
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wait 1min
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look the last line
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switch_open [number of the switch]
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Faulty 2022-03-21 21:23:22Z
aha, so it's configurable for whole map
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T tee 2022-03-21 21:23:25Z
yea
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https://ddnet.tw/settingscommands/ here if u need some other infos like this one (edited)
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Faulty 2022-03-21 21:23:42Z
thank you
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T tee 2022-03-21 21:27:34Z
@deen I added the 3 missing lines for the french translation. Feel free to ping me if I missed something c(^-^c)
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bencie
new vs old
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 21:41:39Z
@c0d3d3v is this intentinal?
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ah yeah it is
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@bencie here are his thoughts, if you crazy enough to read all xdddd https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4802#issue-1166372231
make the vanilla teams independent from the ddrace teams by C0D3D3V...
Fixes #259 Because my changes have some effects on the display and thus people who like it as it was could bother, I have described my changes in detail here. Until now it was the case that players...
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bencie 2022-03-21 21:45:24Z
oh my
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its a whole speech about spectator mode
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justatest
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Tater 2022-03-21 21:49:15Z
huh, so why isn't that change included when I build, do you get the same result @Jupstar ✪ ?
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Tater
huh, so why isn't that change included when I build, do you get the same result @Jupstar ✪ ?
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 21:49:33Z
its only activated for ddnet16 version codes
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Tater 2022-03-21 21:49:42Z
oh ok
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why tho xD
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Tater
why tho xD
Jupstar ✪ 2022-03-21 21:58:42Z
its a server side feature
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or check
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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 22:09:10Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4867 Disable vulkan if client is off

Checklist

  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4847 made grenades predict without needing to enable predict weapons
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bencie
new vs old
c0d3d3v 2022-03-21 23:01:50Z
Yes, this only works if you have the new client and the server also uses the new code. With old servers you will still be hidden and displayed in the Spectators team.
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c0d3d3v 2022-03-21 23:14:40Z
Is it correct that you can't use a ddnet client on a 0.7 vanilla server but a 0.7 client on a ddnet server?
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deen 2022-03-21 23:19:20Z
yes
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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 23:40:33Z
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bors[bot]
[ddnet:master] 5 new commits
29726dc Fix queries for MySQL 8.0 - srdante 22f2f8b Fix Top command showing multiple ranks for the same player - srdante 2edeb21 Change scaped Rank name to Ranking - srdante 4023870 Fix ShowRank() ranking order by - srdante 4388260 Merge #4849 - bors[bot]
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bors[bot]
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4815 The MySQL mode actually works correctly only for MariaDB
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bors[bot]
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4849 Fix queries for MySQL 8.0
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GitHub BOT 2022-03-21 23:57:40Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4855 feature-request: point indicator ingame
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