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Between 2022-02-25 00:00:00Z and 2022-02-26 00:00:00Z
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철로 입문자 필랜 2022-02-25 01:51:02Z
I WANt to make a map
01:51
But I can't paint the tiles.
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☠BlackWolf☠
I hate russia now
dont hate the entire nation, hate the one that's leading it
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철로 입문자 필랜 2022-02-25 05:49:22Z
demo ?
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will u shutdown rus server
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jao
will u shutdown rus server
because?
09:33
say reason bro
09:33
why here so many idiots
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russian sanctions
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Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-02-25 10:40:44Z
And what will it change? (edited)
10:46
Also, go to #off-topic. This is no game related discussion.
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Ham5terzilla (Макс)
Also, go to #off-topic. This is no game related discussion.
Amen 🙏
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ddnet related
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Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-02-25 12:48:21Z
Not.
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winterspell10124 2022-02-25 12:55:43Z
kek
12:55
kek
12:55
troll
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if nether is rocket god and n9 is shotgun god
13:33
who is laser god?? (edited)
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maybe you'll be the laser god
13:45
PogU
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Me im the laser god YEP
YEP 3
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no 6
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arent you the aled god
13:54
ononono
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Ok yea true
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i think learath can agree PepeLaugh
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Learath malding oh nonono
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I'm over it now
14:05
The run after that one was even more annoying, so I'm malding over that one now
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oh thank god i went to sleep then
14:09
i was a bit salty that we didnt finish with so many players, thought it was a garunteed run but shit happens in t0
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Team OMEGALUL (edited)
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The one after that was an absolute abomination, we got 3 chances at a save and 3 people failed doing a hh trying to do some weird circle unfreeze trying to get 2 at a time
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gotta love that
14:11
player who can barely hh: attempts to unfreeze 2 -> unfreezes none
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insane map = players with 10k points = fail hh
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14:12
yepClap
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bencie
player who can barely hh: attempts to unfreeze 2 -> unfreezes none
Even worse is that all 3 players were fairly good players
14:12
People literally turn their brain off while playing at 2 am
14:13
happens
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If you aren't even going to think once before you move, just go to sleep instead?
14:13
We spend like 50 minutes per attempt on these large maps, it's just so tilting
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or go rq and play league instead like @Meekrioz YEP
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And then rq league
14:14
yepClap
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When I play league I get brain damaged people
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bencie
maybe you'll be the laser god
wowo
14:21
i nobest laser player
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Learath2
When I play league I get brain damaged people
We had a enemy garen yesterday that was literally so cocky... we had 2 afk players from the start but managed to win the game anyway because our afks came back, we fed them and it was GG
14:26
i called the garen a "dog" and he should bark for me.
14:26
i can be toxic in league right? justatest
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God ur the reason I hate league
kek 3
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I love you too ♥
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@Meekrioz you should bark for me on stream next timepeepoShy
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bencie
@Meekrioz you should bark for me on stream next timepeepoShy
will do yepClap
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Learath2
The one after that was an absolute abomination, we got 3 chances at a save and 3 people failed doing a hh trying to do some weird circle unfreeze trying to get 2 at a time
Guess we will see that today on back in time 3 aswell
14:31
monkaS
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Oh god, bit3 is today
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 14:32:13Z
DAMN i nearly forgot best map of decade release today
14:32
monkaS
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 14:32:41Z
Ima sleep quick so im fit for whole night afk play
14:32
justatest
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Learath2
Oh god, bit3 is today
are you gonna come play it too?
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Ofc, I'd never miss it
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 14:35:51Z
T0 wins
14:35
feelsokay
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Learath2
Ofc, I'd never miss it
hope you got all day... and night
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I wonder if anyone can actually finish this thing at all
14:40
Maybe a 6p team with great players
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 14:41:28Z
There will be ddos 100%
14:41
feelsbadman
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Ofc, the 30yo manchildren never relent
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 14:44:39Z
@Learath2 ever thought about a team 0 backup? Like u can port all players to another server on the same position?
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why would u port all players to same position
14:52
considering team 0 is not just 1 group
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I'm guessing to survive ddos
14:55
I've actually looked into serializing the entire server state and just sending it to another server, but it's a little too complicated and it could never be seamless, so people mid air would fail
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what about doing so but pausing the server
14:56
so u know where u standing
14:56
and u have time to react
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Problem is it's a lot of work to get this working and all they have to do is just start ddosing the new server
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then when would you unpause
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the same way u unpause on tourney start
14:57
countdown and resume
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what about the people that don't comeback in time
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then rip
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can the game be paused for only a team?
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still better to have X% players going on rather than none
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well yeah that's true
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if you warn people a moment ahead of time to stay in some safe place then it's their fault if they die mid air
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i mean u cant expect a ddos
15:00
justatest
15:00
anticipate*
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yeah but if it's already happening then you give people like 30s to finish whatever they're doing
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ah yes. i cant wait for bit3. surely i will enter the map. zoom out, search for my parts and then never ever attempt the map at all
15:03
greenthing
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If you give people 1 minute to move to a different server, you also give the attacker 1 minute to start attacking the new server, I don't think this will gain us much.
15:06
and it's probably some effort to implement correctly
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ofc you wouldn't let ddossers know the new ip ahead of time
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@Learath2 How you doing my lover
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Stepfunn
@Learath2 How you doing my lover
I am not interested in men, go away
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Stepfunn
@Learath2 How you doing my lover
betrayed poor qed
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🇫🇷 Top 1 team rank on [Extreme] Back in Time 3: 01:13.54 noclip & sus (first finish)
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took you long enough to write it @paradise
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1<:13:918478680550932480>54 Copium
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Learath2
I am not interested in men, go away
DColon
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didnt know there will be a new difficulty 😮
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leaked
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God, mobile discord never ceases to amaze me
15:12
The best rank will probably be around 2 hours
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I.K.U
didnt know there will be a new difficulty 😮
novice moderate brutal insane extreme gay maps
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90% of the maps will be in "gay maps" category
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oldschool empty
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Ravie
ofc you wouldn't let ddossers know the new ip ahead of time
how can you inform players without informing the attackers (who are usually on the server)?
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I thought it would be something like a quick switch
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deen
how can you inform players without informing the attackers (who are usually on the server)?
We pause, we ferry off the state, we set up the new server, then the players get a packet that informs them of the new server
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Im 'corneum
novice moderate brutal insane extreme gay maps
novice moderate brutal insane extreme gay maps O.I.P.C.F.T (only inner peace can finish this) (edited)
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I don't see how that helps, the attackers are also part of the players
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deen
I don't see how that helps, the attackers are also part of the players
Ofc it doesn't, it just eliminates the 1 minute advantage they'd have
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Voxel
novice moderate brutal insane extreme gay maps O.I.P.C.F.T (only inner peace can finish this) (edited)
please remove the starkiller part
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did something happe
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Redirecting ddos is almost instantaneous anyway, doesn't really matter
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Voxel
did something happe
thanks
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im pretty sure starkiller had a lot of hard maps finished for him
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LOL what did they do
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yea starkiller asked alot of people to finish maps for him so he can become r1 points
15:19
thats why he is just cringe
15:19
ngl
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Turbocringe
kek 5
15:19
Bannable
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he is not r1 yepClap
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Learath2
Turbocringe
i think i have a new favourite word 😄
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Enjoy
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thx
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Voxel
novice moderate brutal insane extreme gay maps O.I.P.C.F.T (only inner peace can finish this) (edited)
remove inner peace part too he's think_bot
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thats the thing he so think_bot that its only possible for them
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 16:03:20Z
Imagine releasing the best map 2022 too late
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when rls
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already ddos ?
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:25:11Z
Yo, whoever ddoses, I hope you are not going to ruin the fng tournament too.
16:25
YEP ❤️
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rest in peace fng tournament
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:25:45Z
Only if IP is leaked
16:25
But I'll have measures to counter it
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ddos it yourself
16:26
so ddoser cant do it
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:26:09Z
justatest what
16:26
no I don't do ddos what you mean
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do a reverse ddos so when it gets actually ddosed it just cancels out
5Head 1
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now we talkin
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Cellegen | HU
Only if IP is leaked
Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-02-25 16:27:56Z
All connections possible to track with tools such as wireshark
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:28:04Z
Idk if I can no u ddos
16:28
I can only evade it as much as I could
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Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-02-25 16:28:41Z
Also tracking chain possible too.
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:29:19Z
Idc about tracking or anything like that. Every participant will have a unique code which they must put in their Clan names or the server bans them permanently (edited)
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Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-02-25 16:29:35Z
Hmm
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:29:46Z
Other way is a secret of mine which Imma need more testing with
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Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-02-25 16:31:09Z
It can work only if: A) Checking on another server, not on game server B) No predators
16:31
U connect to one server, u got checked and after u redirected to actual game server
16:32
But if ddosing check server also have cascade effect on game server this looks useless
16:33
And. If u try to connect to server before u got dropped need to send at least 1 packet
16:33
And u recieve a response
16:34
With wireshark u can get ips for ddos check server
16:34
But if check server can be swapped and ip of game server not leaked all is ok
16:35
But, uhm... We in TeeWorlds, is it all possible here???
16:35
Also, I'm not really expert.
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:36:16Z
@deen I want to set a bounty of 100€ as a share prize for the first team who finishes bit3
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I think you are trying to attract attacks, can you stop that please?
justatest 3
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:37:43Z
justatest
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wtf?
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Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-02-25 16:38:05Z
I or him? :D
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:38:06Z
I'm not joking deen, I want this to be motivating, not malicious
16:38
but alright I'll stop there justatest
16:38
ty in advance
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deen
I think you are trying to attract attacks, can you stop that please?
no joke, why did you take that so negatively, even though it was only meant to be nice
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just privately contact the first ones to finish the map
16:39
if there is a prize pool it will attract even more attacks
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because my experience is that when we have prizes, people attack the servers specifically to stop people from winning
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@Cellegen | HU sponsor bigger server then to prevent attacks for the prizepool haha (edited)
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^this idea is better lmao
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:41:23Z
@HappyFray who is bigger server?
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Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-02-25 16:41:53Z
Also not in 1 country
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Cellegen | HU
@HappyFray who is bigger server?
Deen should have an idea but it costs justatest (edited)
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:42:59Z
feelscryman no prize money advertisement then
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if you really want to do it? advertise yourself? i mean just tell streamers to say it and write it on the server?
16:44
there is no one that can stop you for that
16:44
and there is not a lot of teams that can actually do it anyway
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:45:12Z
I already talked with Nexus about using his Paypal
16:45
mine had issues pepedead
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 16:53:25Z
Team 0 can win without ddos
fakenews 5
16:53
I want to call the ddoser something that would get me banned from here monkaS
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 16:56:02Z
I mean, even if my generous donation cannot lighten their mood, then idk what could.
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 16:57:09Z
Ok i called the mother of the ddoser, she cuts off his internet now, it will end soon
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 17:01:30Z
monkaT konsti knows ddoser nice
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☠BlackWolf☠ 2022-02-25 17:24:11Z
Hola no hablon infgles
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hope everyone that is playing bit3 has the whole weekend free
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NovaShock
hope everyone that is playing bit3 has the whole weekend free
whole week*
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 17:45:58Z
Can someone ban vali hes watching us and is targeting ddos
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ᶰ°Konͧsti
Can someone ban vali hes watching us and is targeting ddos
good that the better teams are not on ger2 😂
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 18:22:04Z
Stop ddosing, I want a finisher who can get money.
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ᶰ°Konͧsti
Can someone ban vali hes watching us and is targeting ddos
Richard Moelleux 2022-02-25 18:24:00Z
is that why we're getting big lags atm? or does the host have problems
18:24
(on fr and ger servers)
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yes, servers are under attack
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Richard Moelleux 2022-02-25 18:24:38Z
ok, thank you :/
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 18:24:46Z
Because vali is a virgin without a life
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Richard Moelleux 2022-02-25 18:24:50Z
that sucks, why do people do that
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hi everyone!
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Richard Moelleux 2022-02-25 18:24:56Z
oh thank you for the answer
18:24
wasn't sure
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Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-02-25 18:31:32Z
Time to sleep :D
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but afaik only ger2 so just play on pol or fra
18:32
https://ddnet.tw/status/ check here to see which servers are under attack (edited)
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 18:32:43Z
ger2 justatest
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it is that time of the year again
18:35
someone found a way to circumvent the ddos protection for FRA (edited)
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Ham5terzilla (Макс)
Time to sleep :D
Спокойной ночи, зайка 💜
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sad that ddos came feelsbadman but i'm still happy and thankful for every player who came ingame heartw even with ddos it was already special
heartw 2
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Silex
sad that ddos came feelsbadman but i'm still happy and thankful for every player who came ingame heartw even with ddos it was already special
adrenaline 6 would be more special
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Cellegen | HU 2022-02-25 18:49:23Z
that wileys guy is the whole reason this tourney ain't going far
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Colo-Colo:
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 18:50:14Z
@deen didnt u disable the vote permission for vpns
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vali joined with like 20 client and voting now
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@ᶰ°Konͧsti rip
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ᶰ°Konͧsti
@deen didnt u disable the vote permission for vpns
only if the server know that it is a vpn i think (edited)
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 18:51:47Z
He such a 🇳🇪
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aPES_BlyatDance dance to the ddos aPES_BlyatDance
18:52
aPES_BlyatDance
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ᶰ°Konͧsti
@deen didnt u disable the vote permission for vpns
vali has big proxy lists that some may not be in the vpn blacklist (edited)
18:53
aPES_BlyatDance
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 18:54:09Z
Send dox
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i joined and said vali: fuck you
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vali hartzer
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guys if you didnt saw it in #announcements there is a new GER1 Server. It has a DDos Protection its worth a try. it doesnt have Checkmark in serverlist yet cause its new
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it's time to arrest vali
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even if they knew who he was there is no way anything would happen. he can just deny it
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maybe the new ger1 is able to prevent him
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i thought even costum ddos protection for ddnet couldnt prevent it
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its smth new
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bombay's protection is insane
20:07
@ReiTW time to share it with ddnet
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it should have been less insane than the host forgot the name
20:08
the one that has hardware with xdp etc.. huh
20:09
secured.gg
20:09
this one
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u mean that guy that came here and lended a server?
20:10
i think he is gone
20:10
xd
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bombay? who is that
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HappyFray
bombay? who is that
blmap
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@HappyFray block server, I used to host it
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@Brokecdx- is the owner i think
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I am the owner lol
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shut up rei before i spank you
20:10
broke is now the owner
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ReiTW
secured.gg
they was sponsoring servers but there was some problems so we stopped using it
20:11
ah
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dont threaten me with a good time
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well the protection idea was good
20:11
I've never thought about using smth like that as my server is vanilla based
20:12
but my protection is fine for my server, for ddnet it would be a huge pain to manage it
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i actually think that ddnet is more likely to get an attack then other ones
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we're a big target too
20:14
not as big as ddnet
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well we will see how ger1 will manage it
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well vali was hosting a block server & just wanted our players so
20:14
+ yeah recently it's vali with LickouT attacking
20:14
(lickout doubt he does anything, but he's having fun with vali)
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how did the ddos turn into a mystery documentary
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well at the beginning there was some exploits
20:17
you mix that with some retarded that just wants to daily annoy people
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+ the Guys That Need do compensate something (edited)
20:20
even today us too we got attacked, and my protection was off
20:20
(you can see in the graph when i turn it on, pretty cool)
20:21
left lags, right no lags
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HappyFray
+ the Guys That Need do compensate something (edited)
yup
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20:13 attack started 20:16 Protection react ?
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20:16 I enable the protection yeah
20:23
the problem with teeworlds is that you can easily forge packets & simulate the protocol, flooding that to a server you can overload ressources such as cpu or bandwidth
20:24
in that case he was sending a lot of info request & my server attempted to answer to all of them, that's why you see the red graph, it is outgoing traffic
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time to finish, we got @heinrich5991
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poggers 1
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this man deserves a medal. (using 🇺🇦 right now)
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Silex
time to finish, we got @heinrich5991
good luck x)
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Silex
time to finish, we got @heinrich5991
coradax using rcon cheats
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lovely
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@deen pls fix server T-T
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 21:04:26Z
lmaooo
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sounds like a skill issue to me
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 21:19:24Z
rip pol server
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Яна цист
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@Learath2 so when box the ddoser?
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idk he wont accept my invite
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damn shameless
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@deen the protection is active now but why does it take a while till the bit3 server is visible again
21:45
only the bit3 server is not visible the others one are
21:46
does the protection close the port?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti
lmaooo
nub
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the ddos protection seemed to have closed my connection 😦
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server on but stil super laggy
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 21:49:59Z
hiParano
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Konsthi
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iNubano (edited)
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89.58.38.23:8298 thats the exact server with the right port the server itself does work fine but the one with the port 8298 seems to have issues
21:51
its the same server
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yall like my new pfp?
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not you
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you said yall meaning I was also included mek
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but i just excluded you
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is it your art?
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heinrich5991
the ddos protection seemed to have closed my connection 😦
which host did u choose now? still someone that wants to help community?
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ReiTW
which host did u choose now? still someone that wants to help community?
link 11
21:54
if i am allowed to say.
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I mean I could just take the IP & check, but I ask
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try to check
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KsSmoke
is it your art?
@Eliza did it.
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you find something else
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Meekrioz
@Eliza did it.
just for you?
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@HappyFray link11 doesn't seem to be a server provider
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it is
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ah their website is just shit af
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one of the strongest ddos protection in europe
21:59
would be too expensive to have the protection be always active. and if you look in to it the server itself it withstand the attack (edited)
21:59
but i think the real problem behind that is that the protection "closes?" the port?
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hollande think i'll have to disable it :c
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89.58.38.23:8298 this was the server with bit 3 that got attacked
22:00
89.58.38.23 is back alive after 3-5 minutes
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HappyFray
but i think the real problem behind that is that the protection "closes?" the port?
heh wut
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but the one with port 8298 still offline
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never heard about link11 tho
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ReiTW
never heard about link11 tho
cause its nothing a consumer could normally afford ^^
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KsSmoke
just for you?
she did it for another streamer aswell but he didnt like it i think
22:03
but i liked it
22:03
:D
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server is back online again. seems like it closes the port for some time. now it was gone long enough that the timeout protection is over.
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Meekrioz
she did it for another streamer aswell but he didnt like it i think
Making justice ! Good art need to be appreciated
22:05
@Eliza good job!
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Meekrioz
she did it for another streamer aswell but he didnt like it i think
ur pfp?
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KsSmoke
Making justice ! Good art need to be appreciated
i think he liked it but he didnt want to use it, nonetheless ones loss is another mans win :D
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Mathilda only one alive.
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ReiTW
ur pfp?
yea :)
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HappyFray
Mathilda only one alive.
save or ban
22:08
justatest
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Meekrioz
save or ban
now its over.
PES_Cry 1
22:09
ruined the whole run.
22:09
that just hurts my heart.
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/save
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was t0.
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now pol gets attacked. its completely gone but ger1 is just the one server so ger1 is possible to withstand the whole attack
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you know what would be cool? if there was a website where you could spectate a ddnet server without joining it and filling up the member list like, it'd recieve the info for every player position and action, but not send anything big to stress it
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Regular player connections aren't much stress at all
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i mean thats fair i just wanna watch the awesome BIT3 team and the servers full :(
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Voxel
i mean thats fair i just wanna watch the awesome BIT3 team and the servers full :(
im watching Noctua racing rn at my stream.
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  • im watching the furthest team
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 23:03:01Z
Why do some people just get kicked for weak connection without timeout protection
23:04
On latest DDNet client
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I think this is the client sending to the server that it had a bad connection
23:07
and is clearly not ideal
23:07
in the client setting conn_timeout to a lower value could be used to test if this is true
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-02-25 23:11:21Z
pepe
23:11
Helps a lot if ur in the big t0 in bit3
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kicked for weak connection possible to disable? whats the command for that.
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