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Ryozuki

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Ben laden

@ᶰ°Konͧsti: yo pink rat! You like to map with gametiles first right? in case you are not scared to run some python maybe my new tool is worth checking out :)https://github.com/ChillerDragon/teeworlds-reverse-gametiles

GitHub - ChillerDragon/teeworlds-reverse-gametiles: Tool for mapper...

Tool for mappers that like to map with gametiles first. It generates tiles based on gametiles so the opposite of what "Game Tiles" button does in the editor. - GitHub - ChillerDra...

chillerdragon

@ᶰ°Konͧsti: yo pink rat! You like to map with gametiles first right? in case you are not scared to run some python maybe my new tool is worth checking out :)https://github.com/ChillerDragon/teeworlds-reverse-gametiles

Ur so based! Best feature! I got a finished map without a single design tile placed yet xD

Poggers that will save you some time!

10:24

I hope you use automapper rules otherwise you don’t gain much ._.

u mean writing own rules?

Well i mean my script only places one index of the layer so it wont have actual design yet. If you have an automapper for the tiles you want to use as design you are only one click away from a finished design. If not you kinda still have to do the whole design by hand

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12:29

my script can take this and give you that

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But to get this:

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you need an automapper

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4760 Update local hook collision line every frame.

Changed the data source for local player angle so it updates every frame instead of once per tick. I tested and it's still accurate even when mouse position is very close to the center.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds a...

FYI, it's already possible to do all of this within the editor, you just need some very simple automapper rules. (edited)

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

20bf104 Add 十八 as CHN mod - def-

Oh cool! Did not know you can do automappers based on gametiles. Do you mind sharing a minimal example?

ChillerDragon https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?t=6450

13:16

you need a trick to copy game layers into design layers

banhammer

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

ccc2316 Update players.cpp - sjrc6 ce3539e Merge #4760 - bors[bot]

13:40

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4760 Update local hook collision line every frame.

chillerdragon

Well i mean my script only places one index of the layer so it wont have actual design yet. If you have an automapper for the tiles you want to use as design you are only one click away from a finished design. If not you kinda still have to do the whole design by hand

I only use tiles that have automapper rules troll

troll

14:00

So its great

14:00

And otherwise its pretty easy to write own rules tbh

@Jupstar ✪ do u know why amd/nvidia provide specific drive updates when a new game such as elden ring releases?

15:16

it seems backwards to me xd

probably because they worked together with the game engine devs to improve performance and fix bugs

they should work together with us for opengl issues monkalaugh

monkalaugh

People buy new GPUs to play AAA games like Elden Ring, but probably not for DDNet

deen

People buy new GPUs to play AAA games like Elden Ring, but probably not for DDNet

yep thats me haha

so this would be counterproductive for GPU manufacturers

feelsbadman

They should release driver sources so we can do our own debugging

why r drivers propietary

15:20

do they do some secret optimization techniques?

Trade secret

because they contain some information about the hardware that competitors might like to know, I guess

15:21

and why make them open source, for most companies that's just extra effort for no benefit

It also probably contains the tricks they used to make the games they worked with work better on their gpus

deen

and why make them open source, for most companies that's just extra effort for no benefit

It's not really effort. The actual reason they don't is sweet sweet cash

15:23

What effort is just including a source tarball with their driver releases?

they have to talk to legal if they can publish it, or if it contains any code that can't be open source

15:24

they have to check with patent department if everything in it has been patented already before releasing the code

15:25

and probably have to polish it and make it work with standard build tools, if they have some internal tools for building no one else has access to

I don't see why a gpu driver would contain code that cant be open source from a legal sense, do they even contribute with third parties on those?

I don't know, maybe they bought some other company and are still using some code in there that they bough and can't publish

Tbf, still doesn't sound very high effort by any means. I still maintain the issue is that there literally is negative reward for publishing the source

and they might be afraid that people can find bugs and vulnerabilities easier using source code

deen

and they might be afraid that people can find bugs and vulnerabilities easier using source code

Isn't that usually the one benefit of open source?

benefit from user pov yes

15:29

I'm not saying it's right for them to be afraid, but they might be

15:29

too much speculation

Hm. Why wouldnt the comoany be interested in knowing the vulnerabilities?

effort to fix them

I guess there is no profit in fixing security issues on a gpu

bad publicity

15:30

amd has open source linux drivers nowadays, right? But I think they just communicate with some closed source firmware, so maybe the interesting stuff is in there

deen

amd has open source linux drivers nowadays, right? But I think they just communicate with some closed source firmware, so maybe the interesting stuff is in there

They made a nice compromise. It makes debugging stuff much more pleasant

15:32

They still have a binary blob, but iirc that part gets directly uploaded to the gpu, not much laydevelopers can touch there anyway :D

Ryozuki

@Jupstar ✪ do u know why amd/nvidia provide specific drive updates when a new game such as elden ring releases?

i bet they put small tweaks into the drivers. e.g. if some feature isnt used (but required by spec) it can be disabled for a few fps more or stuff like that

15:41

but i guess a lot is also just marketing xD

15:41

NEW DRIVER FOR ELDEN RING

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EPIC

Well the day 0 drivers do improve alot, like cyberpunk ran like shit before I updated

why is that then not really needed under linux

15:46

all games just work(the games that do actually work)

I bet they add some game specific stuff there, maybe the shader compiler gets improved specifically for it?

15:46

Well idk you are the graphics magician

i mean i could imagine they squeeze out a few FPS, but i really think most is just marketing

15:47

but sure, if there is a new feature not heavily tested, and cyberpunk uses it, then it might improve by a lot

I can tell you that I got 40 fps from cyberpunk and without changing settings after the driver update I got about 60

15:48

Maybe some magic caching

yeah not impossible, tho with vk and dx12 the game devs are also in more responsibility, so i guess there really needs to be some serious bottleneck

15:49

if somebody could benchmark these games and say exactly what caused it, i could maybe imagine it better

Or maybe just a signature check that enables games to use the full gpu to generate hype :D

xD

15:50

well at least it serves one purpose, ppl keep their drivers up to date

Like those power saving tests where manufacturers try to recognize the testing conditions so they can cheat

yeah true

15:51

in the end its all about being 1fps better or more efficient than everyone else

15:51

even if that doesnt work for any other game xD

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i think driver update for game is mainly game profile data being used rather than code change

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i.e. data prefetching, cache utilization and stuff like that

16:25

so the driver just know how the game behave and can adapt its behavior in regard to the game being played

well if that can boost a GPU bound game from 40FPS to 60FPS gg that's a nice boost in terms of % (edited)

Though let's not forget cyberpunk was a huge failure at it's launch, it is entirely possible that it was just that badly optimized

How I can install mysql lib for server?

Mʎɹ シ

How I can install mysql lib for server?

What OS are you using?

Windows

Hm, no idea, I don't even know if we support mysql on windows, sorry

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@deen do we? ^

i think it was always broken

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in subtle ways

@Jupstar ✪ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30467572

elamje

Learn Rust by writing a small OS

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an actual good tutorial

17:11

maybe u can use it to finally learn rust

^^the drea

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m

this is how I learned rust

Ryozuki

@Jupstar ✪ do u know why amd/nvidia provide specific drive updates when a new game such as elden ring releases?

I have heard that they fix bugs in the game code on the graphics driver side so the game runs better

18:48

even e.g. replacing specific shaders if they're written in a suboptimal way

:o

now if only I could remember the source of that statement

thats why i keep most interesting stuff i find in https://obsidian.md/

19:02

bsidian is a powerful knowledge base on top of a local folder of plain text Markdown files.

heinrich5991

even e.g. replacing specific shaders if they're written in a suboptimal way

That sounds like an interesting approach, they do work together on these, I wonder why they don't just give the more optimal shader to the devs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeriepieris_circle

Valeriepieris circle

The Valeriepieris circle is a South China Sea-centered circular region on the world map that is about 4,000 kilometers (2,500 mi) in radius and contains more than half the world’s population. It was named after the Reddit username of Ken Myers, a Texas ESL teacher who first drew attention to the phenomenon in 2013. The map became a meme and was ...

19:18

lmao

19:18

named after a redditor

Would be cool to be able to spectate a server even when it's full

that may actually be a good feature

19:22

we could make a mirror server

19:22

where u only join to spec

19:22

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monkalaugh

bro it just sucks, science is best, epic things happens, stupid ego person makes ppl go back to ethical hate

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

e210bac Add GER1 - def-

Ryozuki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeriepieris_circle

more than half of DDNet servers are also in this circle

PepeA

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Hello, how to fix that bug on 0.6.5 teeworlds with crashing ddnet client, while trying connect new dummy? (edited)

vanilla server?

yes

no fix, but there is a bug open: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3544

Crash while connecting to server after weak connection disconnect ·...

Program terminated with signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. #0 CMapLayers::RenderTileLayer (this=this@entry=0x558ace777a80 <gs_MapLayersBackGround>, LayerIndex=8, pColor=0x7fffd6518bb...

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4761 Make key presses scalable; Add option for old key presses position

This PR is the continuation of #4697 In the Discord, two players pointed out to me that due to the new position of the arrows, there are larger gaps between the tees and the player names (See https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/757720336274948198/945642195757707265 below are a few answers from me). This PullRequest is intended to deal with this problem. I have made 3 changes: 1. I have made the arrows that are displayed for the key presses scalable. This can also be set ...

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