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Between 2022-02-22 00:00:00Z and 2022-02-23 00:00:00Z

is cl_prediction_margin defaulted at 10 for any good reason

I think because it was hardcoded to 10 before

When pull request is closed, what then? It's getting rejected, accepted what

RadziSzop

When pull request is closed, what then? It's getting rejected, accepted what

Usually its getting merged then

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4754 practice mode doesn't exit after team kill

cheeser0613 reports:

old ddnet practice mode can be exit after team kill, but it wont in the latest server (idk is it a bug or intended, if its not a bug maybe add a new command to exit practice before start because the only way to exit now is to change team)

https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/02/21/rust-analyzer-joins-rust-org.html

rust-analyzer joins the Rust organization! | Rust Blog

Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.

08:59

poggers

@deen can I ask for another server request? It will be the last one from me. So there is 'fng japan' server, which Korean players play a lot because there is no Korean FNG server. Actually, it's almost all Korean players. So we're just wondering if you can host an FNG server for Korea as well.

@noby you want to host it on korea too? ^

@noby korea wants to cooperate with usa

Where can I find tool skins like this one? Image Image

@mikdad dz you haven't actually sent skins

I have found

lmao tf

wtf happened

it's a new feature image of my coding setup Image

Damn i cannot finish my new map without the weapon shields pepe

pepe

make a teleporter that gives you the weapons needed but not the one you want to remove

Ik thats exactly what im not wanting to do

10:26

And its not possible like that Ima just wait till the weapon shields get released

Jupstar ✪

it's a new feature image of my coding setup Image

why do you have vertical monitors

Jupstar ✪

it's a new feature image of my coding setup Image

why do u have weeb background

interesting what your first imaginations are

10:29

ryo is a weeb, zombietoad wannts epic coding setups xD

Did you like delete the image? :D

is it me or no images are shown

11:48

ah it's a troll

11:48

wtf

i can still see them, here's a screenshot Image

imagine

Image

today is

12:19

2022/02/22

12:20

20220222

12:20

or 22022022

12:20

fits betters

gotta wait for 22:22:22.2222 o'clock

12:21

finish a race with 22:22.22 minutes

12:22

then you are a legend xd

greenthing

@Jupstar ✪ did u rework the vid recorder in vulkan?

12:31

is it possible to render the video at 60fps but in like 1second? xd

12:31

for me there is no benefit on using the demo recorder over obs due to that rn

12:32

i think it was due to the sound being a problem

yes

12:32

its very fast now

and sound works fine?

12:32

thats epic

yeah i also fixed 96000 hz sound, but have to push the changes

this is the most poggers update

12:32

PepeA

well it maxes out at around 85% CPU usage for me

finally i can render 2 hour demos without wasting 2 hours in pc

12:32

xd

deen

@noby you want to host it on korea too? ^

yes

realnoby

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no idea why it cant reach 100% xd

cant wait for ddnet 16.0

12:36

@deen did u see the https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4267 ?

12:36

if ddnet 16.0 also has tutorial i think it might be good to add the tooltips too

what good is the tooltip code without any explanations?

ah u want me to add the tooltips?

and if we have a text for the tooltip, then why not display it directly on the screen?

u mean without a tooltip?

Yes

because it doesnt fit?

12:38

idk

I'm not sure how useful they are

rip

isnt that how everyone does it?

12:38

browsers do it too

I thought the idea was for the tooltips to guide you where to go

12:38

as a kind of tutorial for the UI, but seems not

12:40

Maybe I just can't imagine what should be done with it

12:40

but if we have a button "Connect" and the tooltip says "Connect to server" this doesn't feel useful

e.g. the editor pen says Open the editor

12:41

bcs the pen isnt intuitive

But I don't think I'm the right person to go through and annotate the entire UI

it allows to explain some settings in more detail for example

i'd say it useful especially for settings and icononized buttons

12:43

or stuff that isnt directly clear "Click to add player as friend" in the server details player list

85% ppl dont know what this does and wether they should enable them

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12:44

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12:44

"oh i just installed this game 5 mins ago, what are text entities?

12:44

what is a quad

12:44

what is old mouse mode?

12:45

antiping??

12:45

surely it must be good!

12:45

xd

12:45

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12:45

oh look a ghost!!!

12:45

monkalaugh

yeah its fine, maybe deen misunderstood, that he does not need todo that xD

12:45

sounded like he fears to go through the UI and do it himself

sry for the sarcasm xd

Ryozuki

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boo

no i can do most of it and we can ask others what would need expplanations

12:46

we will need to oask for translations tho

in german date order, it's a palindrome:

12:48

22.02.2022

Pathos

@deen can I ask for another server request? It will be the last one from me. So there is 'fng japan' server, which Korean players play a lot because there is no Korean FNG server. Actually, it's almost all Korean players. So we're just wondering if you can host an FNG server for Korea as well.

servers up

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Why is DDNet persian gone again monkaS

monkaS

noby

yes

How will you divide between korean players and actual bots? monkaS

monkaS

same way the jpn server did it

13:18

by banning them anyway kek

kek

so u rather ban innocent players than letting one bot play?

konsti didnt have time to ask persian owner to insert ranks

troll

1

13:37

@Jupstar ✪ @deen

13:38

monkaS

Hm, looks good, maybe make the position of the tooltip fixed so it doesn't move with the mouse?

why

13:39

i like it moves with the mouse xd

13:40

feels more responsive

13:40

unless you have parkinson monkaS

monkaS

kek

1

ᶰ°Konͧsti

so u rather ban innocent players than letting one bot play?

in all seriousness there are actually very very few false positives on jpn server

13:44

but yes as a whole across all servers occasionally innocent people get flagged

13:44

which i believe is worth being able to prevent bots from ruining the game

Ryozuki

monkaS

can it do multi line btw?

@Jupstar ✪ no, cuz ur text width function is broken for multiline, it resets to 0 iirc

there is a member in SCursor that is "BiggestLineWidth" or smth

14:04

that can be used for such stuff

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perf tool on linux and intel documentation are such a pain in the ass to find what you want

14:17

i need to make at least a commit other than translation for ddnet 16, but don't know what i can do

Oh I have one for you

14:19

skins.cpp:L238-239 are both wrong, I just couldn't find time to fix it

xD good luck fixing it without breaking some skins xD

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/src/game/client/components/skins.cpp#L238-L239 this?

ddnet/skins.cpp at master · ddnet/ddnet

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - ddnet/skins.cpp at master · ddnet/ddnet

14:21

what's wrong with that?

but yeah the skin greyscale code is really weird

No no

yeah i agree, but it would break everyone's personification skin

14:23

so we would need a legacy mode and the new one

If m_Format != FORMAT_RGBA the *4 is wrong

14:24

it should be * Step

14:24

But even that would be wrong

ah you want to support RGB skins?

14:25

when does this make sense?

I think you should pretend alpha is 255

Jupstar ✪

when does this make sense?

I'm not sure, but the rest of the code supports it, so that part should too

ok, but you'll have intransparent squares

As is now, you'll get a nice buffer overflow loading a RGB skin I think

generally RGB is not desirable format, GPUs want 4byte or 1 byte alignment

14:26

but not 3 bytes

Okay, then your PR can be removing this useless branching

true

I cant Start DDNet Network Client with Steam. What can I do to fix this?! Thx

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looks like it wants to run the server

but I always klick on DDrace Network Desktop App. And not open a Lan svr or smt... and if I want Start DDnet it try's to Update and stopps direktly and than this Error comes

mhh really weird, maybe reinstall and create a new desktop reference

14:31

i dunno how exactly you start it from desktop has steam created it for you?

Yeah it is from Steam. And it is the Same problem if I start the game via Steam

14:32

OKOK I will try to reinstall.

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14:36

@Learath2

Missing the frame where the top guy becomes a skeleton from the waiting

monkalaugh

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4755 DDNet-Server writes to steam directory

The Server still writes to the steam directory ddnet-server.sqlite & autoexec_server.log I guess it would be nicer to see the steam directory as read-only, who knows what permission problems this can cause on Windows

Ryozuki

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why aren't they changing the default wait time for desktops I mean, if it's such a meme they must have been quite a bit of discussion about that, shouldn't there?

GitHub

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@Chairn you wanted a task

It's because poettering is a huge narcissist, I bet he thinks he knows better than everyone so he won't let them even discuss it

Ok :/

14:44

really weird, especially if its a component that is not writing to disk

14:44

for those it almost doesnt matter anyway

Jupstar ✪

@Chairn you wanted a task

meh, i don't use steam, so i have no way to test this

the normal ddnet server does this too

Chairn

meh, i don't use steam, so i have no way to test this

then remove the RGB support in skins.cpp

xD

he used netsh winsock reset chkdsk c: /f /r /x in cmd and it works now if anyone else has the problem

@HappyFray helped me in direktly Discord Call with CMD Commands chkdsk c: /f /r /x netsh winsock reset and PC restart. Now I reinstalled it and it worked. Thx to all!

ok nice

Happyfray customer call support poggers

poggers

How did that even help?

14:48

I'm of confusion

yeah xD

14:48

his game is on D:, and he checks C:

14:48

probs it was the restart xD

Jupstar ✪

his game is on D:, and he checks C:

it was a permission problem from steam on the drive

that would be classic windows

14:48

ok

chkdsk fixed the permission problem

14:49

thats why it helped

always interesting how this even happens in first place

Yeah, only allah himself knows what's going on there

who is that?

14:51

a new dev?

If only we had an omnipotent omniscient deity as a contributor

GitHub

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i can't even find the definition for CreateSqliteConnection

m_SvSqliteFile

14:55

in server.cpp

damn stupid vscode

could just move it to the save dir

it cannot find it, but grep did ^

i use vscodium

14:56

so its basically also vscode

14:56

and i found it xd

and obviously, now it does...

14:57

i miss my mouse with previous button

i still have this at home, if you need programmable buttons https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/5197yBtWRnL._AC_SY450_.jpg

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hum, seems like it just opens the raw string, without using the storage interface

yeah

15:00

for the log the same, but i dunno if ddnet's official servers depend on that

i guess a call to GetBinaryPath would fix it

    char aFullPath[IO_MAX_PATH_LENGTH];
    pStorage->GetCompletePath(IStorage::TYPE_SAVE, pPath, aFullPath, sizeof(aFullPath));

15:03

that's what the client sqlite uses

damn function returning void, didn't see it

15:10

weird that one returns a c string, and the other one, void

15:16

how do i test format with clang-format?

15:20

never mind, was written in readme.md

15:26

well, i think i lack knowledge to this part of code, because it doesn't have a pointer or a function to get a handle on the storage interface

in neovim with clangd i press gd on a function and i go to definition

hum, there are some files that are RGB in data

15:33

./data/editor/checker.png:                               PNG image data, 32 x 32, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
./data/editor/background.png:                            PNG image data, 256 x 256, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
./other/dmgbackground.png:                               PNG image data, 1280 x 832, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced

15:36

should we completely drop RGB support in skins?

No need, as @Jupstar ✪ said, without transparency the skins would all be squares

so yes need

15:38

(to drop RGB support in skins)

https://bethesda.net/en/article/2RXxG1y000NWupPalzLblG/sunsetting-the-bethesda-net-launcher-and-migrating-to-steam

Sunsetting the Bethesda.net Launcher & Migrating to Steam

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15:40

good news

Chairn

how do i test format with clang-format?

in general, if those tools (clang-format, clang-tidy) are hard to figure out for people, just ignore them. I can run them later.

When does ddnet gets bought by microsoft

never, makes no sense to buy an open source project that anyone can just fork

15:45

I can sell them DDNet, and 1 day later start a new project DDNet2 with the same data and code

Lmao

confirmed no transparency is not the best idea:

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deen

in general, if those tools (clang-format, clang-tidy) are hard to figure out for people, just ignore them. I can run them later.

maybe we can add them to dependencies

well, most people just want to build, not contribute

I wonder if deen has siblings he told about tw

Yes, but they are not interested

pepe

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same here

16:28

they say "oh you are playing that game about balls moving again" (edited)

16:28

or smth like that

16:29

xd

what's the difference between CImageInfo::FORMAT_ALPHA and CImageInfo::FORMAT_RGBA?

16:49

file utility reports both as 8-bit color RGBA, non interlaced

Ryozuki

they say "oh you are playing that game about balls moving again" (edited)

Exactly my parents.

nobos

deen

Yes, but they are not interested

If my brother would invent a game ten thousands of players are playing id 24/7 run it and tell anyone to respect my autoritaeh or i call my brother justatest

justatest

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

a997e8d Add 50 € South Africa funding by Mariac - def-

demo recording shouldnt "stop/erase" while having a timeout. like i couldnt use save_replay in the timeout screen.

1

about wrong writing there websites to writing invert and we can copy and pasy to be correct in game invert +invert = correct i just want say if you do invert like them more one invert in game maybe become correct idk

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18:47

i write 1 and copy 2 put 2 in game get one

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Ryozuki

they say "oh you are playing that game about balls moving again" (edited)

my father calls it "pew pew"

19:00

monkalaugh

greenthing

its called kirby

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4756 Drop non RGBA image in skins

src/game/client/components/skins.cpp is using some fixed step suitable for RGBA png but it can be given a RGB which surprisingly doesn't crash it. Anyway, RGB pictures cannot be used as skins: !image

Checklist

[x] Tested the change i...

i can't compile with asan using this https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet#using-addresssanitizer--undefinedbehavioursanitizer-or-valgrinds-memcheck

GitHub - ddnet/ddnet: DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Te...

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - GitHub - ddnet/ddnet: DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds

19:35

i get

/usr/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/engine-shared.dir/src/base/system.cpp.o: undefined reference to symbol 'pthread_detach@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

19:36

trying with LDFLAGS=-lpthread

did you use a clean build dir?

yup

what is your clang version?`

19:45

clang --version

it works if i had -lpthread manually at the end of the command because LDFLAGS adds it at the start

19:45

i used gcc

ah gcc doesnt support all sanitizers

gcc (Ubuntu 7.5.0-3ubuntu1~18.04) 7.5.0 on ubuntu 18.04

uff that's also very old

19:46

welcome in 2022 bro xd

clang version 6.0.0-1ubuntu2 (tags/RELEASE_600/final)

xD

19:46

i am on clang 15.

not my fault if apt installs outdated soft

you need to dist upgrade

19:47

change sources.list and then apt update apt dist-upgrade

19:47

but since its ubuntu there is probs some gui tool doing that for you anyway

true

called here: your boring game saddo

saddo

? xD

Chairn

clang version 6.0.0-1ubuntu2 (tags/RELEASE_600/final)

thats rly old bro

19:51

❯ clang --version clang version 13.0.1

19:51

monkaS

19:52

rolling releases are def better for desktop imho

at least the most recent stable

ye

ubuntu 22 releases in 2 months too

@Jupstar ✪ help

19:56

"Multiple texture units (disable for macOS)"

19:56

whats a good tooltip for this option

you dont need to tool tip those 3

ok

19:56

xd

they are gone with vulkan update

opengl too?

(from gui at least)

19:57

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19:57

thats the new version

looks good

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3050 seems like some of these are still here, i got similar ones

Go through ubsan and clean up · Issue #3050 · ddnet/ddnet

CC=clang CXX=clang++ CXXFLAGS="-fsanitize=undefined" CFLAGS="-fsanitize=undefined" cmake -GNinja -DWEBSOCKETS=OFF -DMYSQL=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug -DVIDEORECO...

yeah they are annoying to fix, and the compilers we use seem to output correct results but if you want try to fix them

i got the same for vptr CCharacter into CEntity

yeah thats one example

20:29

the compiler will probs do 1 vptr for that and not change it during runtime

i also got a lot of leaks coming from libX11....

mhh, i only get leaks from SDL i think xd

lot in numbers but mostly small stuff (16 bytes)

as long it doesnt leak during runtime it also doesnt really matter

Do you do that with your brother already? (@ᶰ°Konͧsti)

If my brother would invent a game ten thousands of players are playing id 24/7 run it and tell anyone to respect my autoritaeh or i call my brother [:justatest: https://mau.lu/hkjgy- ] (@deen)

20:48

Looks like worms. No wait! It’s Kirby with guns!!!! (@Ryozuki)

they say "oh you are playing that game about balls moving again"

Jupstar ✪

yeah thats one example

i think, i fixed it with just using dynamiccast ^^

chillerdragon

Do you do that with your brother already? (@ᶰ°Konͧsti)

did but nobody knows Kog admin kamillentee these days pepe

pepe

ᶰ°Konͧsti: I do and I respect your authoritae

21:16

ALL HAIL THE PINK RAT

>fixed it >dynamic cast pepeW

pepeW

joke

21:21

a lot of data seems unitialized

21:22

but there's not a default entity type

Aaa any status tw dev here? Is the server list broken? https://status.tw/server/list/

Server list - status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players

tell them on https://discord.gg/k6fHF6wR

21:50

you don‘t have discord i guess, i‘ll do it

CCharacter.m_KeepHooked is written but never read?

@Headshot hang and swing game

Thanks babe <3 (@deen)

you don‘t have discord i guess, i‘ll do it

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wait if chiller doesnt have discord what do they have that allows this type of communication? (edited)

Voxel

wait if chiller doesnt have discord what do they have that allows this type of communication? (edited)

Read the channel description :D

OHH

[ddnet:master] 4 new commits

76064bd Drop non RGBA images - Chairn 0ea66bc Clang format - Chairn c0d398d CheckImageFormatRGBA --> IsImageFormatRGBA - Chairn ba0e4a4 Merge #4756 - bors[bot]

23:54

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4756 Drop non RGBA image in skins

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