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7034c5c Update Swedish translations - simpygirl eed7f9d Merge #4744 - bors[bot]

09:28

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4744 Update and improve the Swedish translations

fokkonaut

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1801

It could be done client side only, i cannot see this feature anywhere

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

4e7b82a Fix broken checkbox - simpygirl cf23a73 Fix style - def- 4584eb1 Merge #4743 - bors[bot]

09:55

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4743 Fix broken checkbox

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4739 Scotland flag.

10:11

9033607 Update Scottish flag (fixes #4739) - def- bd30039 Merge #4742 - bors[bot]

10:11

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4742 Update Scottish flag (fixes #4739)

e3fff41 Update French flag (fixes #4738) - def- 2fd4389 Merge #4740 - bors[bot]

10:26

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4738 French flag.

10:26

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4740 Update French flag (fixes #4738)

Wohoo

It could be done client side only, i cannot see this feature anywhere

Not good to do it clientside. 1. Client doenst always have own tee position 2. not every other Client can use that feature then. 3. pr is closed, not merged

Jupstar ✪

and aslong there is no need, why should there be annoying stuff like ads on the website?

small box ad somewhere can't be annoying

why do you even do this discussion xD

11:08

what is your motivation

11:09

i clearly said funding is not a problem

feel bored

11:09

but we have a lot space in website ddnet use it

I hate advertisements, they steal people's attention and brainwash them, so no ads on ddnet

if you leave it empty it's like wasted money

ddnet isnt created to make money tho

11:10

its a community game

Jupstar ✪

ddnet isnt created to make money tho

so you can make it for ddnet

And if you walk past someone on the street and don't steal their wallet it's also wasted money

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xDDD

deen

And if you walk past someone on the street and don't steal their wallet it's also wasted money

illegal

so if it was legal you would do it?

haram

for me both are bad, independent of whether they are legal

you still can choose good ads don't put anything

if you want to help ddnet, then chat up some streamers, reviewers, game websites to cover ddnet, that would be nice

11:12

as @Jupstar ✪ already said, there is no funding problem

I think ads wouldnt even fit ddnet site

don't wait problem come

11:13

if you all hate it i can't say anything more

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11:14

have a nice day

thanks, you too

Btw, stupid question, but do people on ddnet developer channel do little js code reviews

?

But actually you're not the first one to suggest this recently, not sure why this idea of commercializing on the internet is becoming more popular. Are you guys studying Economics or is this because of Influencers and YouTubers trying to earn money?

11:16

@RadziSzop for something ddnet related yes, otherwise you can still post it, but no guarantee

i study accounting maybe we have something about wasted money

Not for ddnet, just was wondering if someone would be interesting of giving it 3 mins of free time

Should disable kick/specvotes on all maps with teamforce like on dummy

and i am youtuber trying get money

You wont get money from ddnet ads tho

Its annoying to get banned on a full server because only 2 people have to vote in t0

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ᶰ°Konͧsti

Should disable kick/specvotes on all maps with teamforce like on dummy

maybe change it to /spec?

No, u dont need those votes at all on maps with teamforce

like you still stay in race but spec

u either are in a team or having fun in the playground

somepeople sleep there

11:21

will be nice if there way without kick them

You need a way to kick spammer/troll

anyway i am not developer or something why i talking here

11:26

about ads. it's just we love this game and Donations can't work forever if ddnet can finance himself this will be awesome

11:26

bye bye i will make some tea

DDnet wouldn't have such problems in future if brazil wouldn't cost 1300$ nouis

(edited)

hussainx3

about ads. it's just we love this game and Donations can't work forever if ddnet can finance himself this will be awesome

so as long as donations work, there is no need for ads

How many people even visit ddnet.tw

?

ppl are masochists

11:36

demanding ads

11:37

what a world to be alive

RadziSzop

Not for ddnet, just was wondering if someone would be interesting of giving it 3 mins of free time

just post it

11:37

https://dontasktoask.com/

Don't ask to ask, just ask

Yes yes, i know, just need to finish it first

11:38

this website is so good

11:39

http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

RadziSzop

How many people even visit ddnet.tw

?

From Cloudflare, not sure how accurate

11:45

So maybe ~400k people a month

this is for wiki.ddnet.tw for january

ChillerDragon: can you stop afking on Multeasymap all the time? We'd like map to restart at some point

just ban him

11:58

at that point he is taking up slots of ppl who want to play

i don't know what he's doing, apparently some kill counting bot in playground

12:00

and we have enough servers, so taking up slots is not an argument

if nobody is racing just restart feature?

gotta restart to update server

62 people are racing

12:05

but usually it would sometimes go empty at night, then it can restart, but not if ChillerDragon stays there always

yeah thats what i mean

12:05

if nobody racing just restart

12:06

with racing i mean crossing start line / not being afk since 8h

12:06

whatever

its just annoying, u cant even contact chillerdragon

email him

chillerdragon is gigachad

deen

From Cloudflare, not sure how accurate

what do you mean...? 400k visitors in one month? Even if half would be bots... didn't expect 10% of that

yes

Ryozuki

this is for wiki.ddnet.tw for january

we have wiki poggers

?

Steam also reports that we get ~30k new players every month

29k from it are chinese ones i think

#wiki

i remember when few years ago i was sad that from ~1000 active players there are about 600

RadziSzop

29k from it are chinese ones i think

10k

unexpected

12:31

but still good news

deen

From Cloudflare, not sure how accurate

Alexa has a website(traffic) tracking system its pretty accurate afaik

Ryozuki

just post it

https://github.com/RadziSzop/colorPicker

GitHub - RadziSzop/colorPicker

Contribute to RadziSzop/colorPicker development by creating an account on GitHub.

Who can I contact for DDNet Korea, Japan, and Singapore servers? From https://ddnet.tw/status

hussainx3

somepeople sleep there

Somepeople good

Wohoo

You need a way to kick spammer/troll

add_foe name

deen

but usually it would sometimes go empty at night, then it can restart, but not if ChillerDragon stays there always

Its actually never empty. I could be afk 1week and it always people were playing xd

RadziSzop

i remember when few years ago i was sad that from ~1000 active players there are about 600

Real news

I have several econ friends who keep telling me we should monetize ddnet/teeworlds:D

can i run ads on my maps?)))

Pathos

Who can I contact for DDNet Korea, Japan, and Singapore servers? From https://ddnet.tw/status

me? why

Jupstar ✪

so as long as donations work, there is no need for ads

Don't put all your eggs in one basket greenthing

If the eggs are donated you don't need them in one basket

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14:43

see bro its nice that you care so much for ddnet

no ads wtf

14:45

from 2013 until today in the end of the year the costs were always covered

Learath2

I have several econ friends who keep telling me we should monetize ddnet/teeworlds:D

i vote developers-managers or idk what your name guyscan take 10-20% of money this will help you take it more seriously and trying earn more money for you and for ddnet

i dont want ddnet to become capitalistic ..

this help it to become biger

10€ onetime payment for ddnet client

14:48

Would pay

hussainx3

i vote developers-managers or idk what your name guyscan take 10-20% of money this will help you take it more seriously and trying earn more money for you and for ddnet

here saudi arabia now doing this

you are going into a philosohpical direction

14:51

just bcs something works, it doesn't need to be done

14:51

just like deens example with stealing a money bag

universities now cash feed by Government but they will start make his money or fail so will be better or this they idea anyway

I can see how that could motivate us to work more on it, but 10-20% of what we'd make on reasonable ads is like nothing compared to a proper salary :D

14:52

It wouldnt even be living wage

Learath2

I can see how that could motivate us to work more on it, but 10-20% of what we'd make on reasonable ads is like nothing compared to a proper salary :D

imagine ddnet get a million

14:53

now it's deserve it

We'd need to put dick pill ads all over the site and between map runs to just fund deen to work on this full time :D

Learath2

We'd need to put dick pill ads all over the site and between map runs to just fund deen to work on this full time :D

Finally good idea...

Learath2

We'd need to put dick pill ads all over the site and between map runs to just fund deen to work on this full time :D

no just small box

14:54

it's beginning you don't have get a lot of ads

Do you think a small box ad generates enough revenue to fund a developer salary, let alone a team?

Zwelf

[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #175 Add explain for live freeze in switch layer

If you want to monetize ddnet the better direction to go is definitely microtransactions

like if ddnet cost money (need buy it) this make a lot butif you want buy it you need make accounts inside ddnet

14:55

cost but get result too

Please stop, nobody want's ads. DDNet is already able to sustain itself by donations. (@hussainx3)

hussainx3

no just small box (@Learath2)

small box no hurt

i dont want porn ads on my game

hussainx3

like if ddnet cost money (need buy it) this make a lot butif you want buy it you need make accounts inside ddnet

thats also the best way to lose 90% of your playerbase

like what i said it's just begin not need be enough for anything

Anyway, exactly. We just dont need it. The only reasonable thing is maybe the money could motivate some of us to work more on it. But honestly, we'd make such a negligible amount with any reasonable ads

bencie

thats also the best way to lose 90% of your playerbase

omg it's example just

hussainx3

small box no hurt

i wouldn't agree on that, ads are designed to get attention, and ppl's attention is already very bad in modern society

you can example take ads of channels ddnet only

I opened discord to ask something else here, then I forgot :/

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not have to be porn or something far of ddnet

Capitalism is bad for my attention span

Just post some ads about ddnet

hussainx3

not have to be porn or something far of ddnet

Reasonable ads don't pay well. That's why every site puts "HOT MILFS IN YOUR AREA"

reasonable ads not hurt even if was not well we talking about money without hurt

game is still open source so people would probably mod the client or use old version

Learath2

If you want to monetize ddnet the better direction to go is definitely microtransactions

pay 10 dollars to put a hat on your tee and 25 dollars to have an animated tee body

Souly

game is still open source so people would probably mod the client or use old version

Website ads, not ingame

pay 0 have everything and donate if you want

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15:01

thats what u have right now

15:01

and u want to lose it

15:02

nonsensical

hussainx3

reasonable ads not hurt even if was not well we talking about money without hurt

Think of it more as an ideoligical position. None of us believe in monetizing this project. Nor the amount we'd make would change anything for us. Thus there is no point

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Then where are my hats?

Ryozuki

thats what u have right now

exactly. its how i want it

RadziSzop

Website ads, not ingame

just use ad blocker

RadziSzop

Then where are my hats?

those are skins

even better

u have over 600

15:02

https://ddnet.tw/skins/

example this video in the mine page if someone want put video about ddnet even if not good enough if was not porn ofc and still about with ddnet you can put it if he pay 10$

579*

still hats to actually go over a tee's eyes would be nice

We don't need money :P

adding ads is the fastest way to kill a game lmao

f3

it's in website not game omg

does it matter

if ads are added i would stop helping ddnet, not like it matters much

15:04

lets atleast have a decent place in the internet while it dies

I do understand the grindset tho. It's capitalismgang. It hurts to see possible profits going unextracted

i sure you not have video every day to put in this main page

If people make good videos, we put them on the site, without charging them for it

Maybe we could make "ads" for ad blockers and other useful FOSS software/open source games without monetizing/tracking in it.

ok another idea

another idea: leave it as is

make clothes or something and sells in website=ads of ddnet to ddnet

hussainx3

make clothes or something and sells in website=ads of ddnet to ddnet

so nfts

@Zwelf those wouldnt pay anything, they are open source, it would more be like a shoutout or a see also

create actual twinbop OnlyFans

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OH WAIT you meam merch

Zwelf

Maybe we could make "ads" for ad blockers and other useful FOSS software/open source games without monetizing/tracking in it.

The point is these won't generate much of anything. Even with ads that pay a lot we'd not make any significant amount

15:08

Anyway, we don't need it and all of the maintainers and contributors seem to agree on that by a landslide. So these profits will have to stay unextracted

Yeah, its not about profit more like giving visibility for other projects.

make clothes and sells it's too free ads when people wear this clothes

15:09

and i sure this make enough money

15:09

or deserve it anyway

how about you make a million $ and donate it

15:09

then ddnet also got your money

listen i wanna do stuff here not for the money i wanna do it because its Fun

ChillerDragon plushies

clothes very fun thing and like dummy louis or something

15:10

ppl want tees in really life

you know something more useful that you can do?

15:11

contribute to the ddnet wiki

Jupstar ✪

how about you make a million $ and donate it

i wish but so poor

thats the best way to help ddnet rn

15:11

imagine i get something free and spend money kek

Imagine you get ddnet for free but dont want to spend money on donation, pethetic

did u even donate

if you sell dummys tees i will buy

Ryozuki

did u even donate

poor

hussainx3

if you sell dummys tees i will buy

much of the money spent goes into the company that produces these

You don't have to donate anything. If you want ddnet to keep on existing, you can donate to keep the servers running

or do you also want to create the factories? XD

Jupstar ✪

or do you also want to create the factories? XD

deen used to sell t-shirts iirc but no profit

yeah but he wants it to get money

Ryozuki

deen used to sell t-shirts iirc but no profit

That was a print company, they took all profits iirc

GF louis can make for us XD

https://wiki.ddnet.tw/wiki/Freeze

Freeze

Freeze (/) is one of the main mechanics the game resolves around. It resets and disables Movement keys, jumping and the Hook for a few seconds. Currently hooked tees get released. Drag parts are based on the fact that one tee is frozen. Hammerrun and throws are used to get through wider freeze walls. It is possible to unfreeze a Tee by hitting i...

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15:14

new wiki page poggers

Jupstar ✪

or do you also want to create the factories? XD

We obviously hire slave labour to hand sew them

ez

fair trade i think its fair that we get it all

i tired send to me 0.1% of proft

15:17

oh no proft sadly

Okay, I cant remember what I came here to actually talk about. I'll go get something to eat

hussainx3

oh no proft sadly

btw ddnet license allows you to make your own game based on ddnet's work Go ahead and make your ads

Should done it way before

bear me guys just one week and my holiday finish

Whos dennis

deen

btw there no game like ddnet it's hard for noobs like impossible put tutorious work when you first time run this game

RadziSzop

Click to see attachment 🖼️

why only 5? how many years do u play?

I did not have more on paypal

Cøke

why only 5? how many years do u play?

Um... 7? But for me it was 23PLN

15:52

Also it was money reservated for BTD6, i hope it was worth it

xdd

15:54

at least something

Only to be on list toptri

there list !

if you like to play a game you can also leave money there, it still donate relatively few people which is sad

15:57

some ppl play for years and never leave a little bit money

Yes

15:58

So i am better than them

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i them

Hi guys.

Hey!

Sorry for the late response. Coke found me in game I have him access to the bot so he can restart it. Since I am not farming runtime anymore feel free to shutdown the server if there is only me online. Or add a password and kick me :) (@deen)

deen

but usually it would sometimes go empty at night, then it can restart, but not if ChillerDragon stays there always

or u know, u can disconnect urself

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Bot is programed to always vote

. So make a vote "keep server alive?" It will vote

and you can restart

smart

17:29

if nobody in serverr or there sleep just vote will work

17:29

pass

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

fef0fac Add 5 € donation by Daro - def-

RadziSzop

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Thanks!

Cøke

why only 5? how many years do u play?

lol, don't shame people for their donations...

[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request closed: #175 Add explain for live freeze in switch layer

17:30

[ddnet-web:master] 2 new commits

9ce8ae1 Add explain for live freeze in switch layer - Zwelf ca89cc8 Merge pull request #175 from Zwelf/pr-update-explain-live-freeze - def-

5 € enough for whole day

17:32

lunch and dinner

deen

lol, don't shame people for their donations...

I just said so because he posts here big that he has donated 5 euros

it's big

I don't think I could do 5e total for lunch + dinner here

Learath2

I don't think I could do 5e total for lunch + dinner here

well if u buy rice and only eat that then u can

17:38

xdd

I guess I could indeed buy rice

17:40

I can also afford some yogurt

lunch cost 2.5 rice and Quarter of a chicken with some red pasta and green vegetable dinner 2.5 2sandwich Shawarma both can cost less if i cook in kitchen

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4745 Double clicking on friend name (when friend is only 2 times doesn't work reliably)

sometimes it registers a single click as double click I believe. Reported by cheeser0613 @Robyt3 You recently changed the double clicking code, could it be caused by this? I'm bisecting

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4746 Fix listbox item double click behavior

Closes #4745.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addres...

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good job guys idk it's good for what but is awesome thing make select-copy of F1

hussainx3

btw there no game like ddnet it's hard for noobs like impossible put tutorious work when you first time run this game

there are a lot of games based on teeworlds or DDNet (edited)

yeah i know ddnet and teeworlds just

19:30

but in the end it's same game so still need tutorious for noobs not give up and delete game in first 5 mins

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4745 Double clicking on friend name (when friend is only 2 times doesn't work reliably)

19:41

9ebb85f Fix listbox item double click behavior - Robyt3 4581233 Merge #4746 - bors[bot]

19:41