DDraceNetwork - developer

idk where to ask questions related to release candidates so i'll just use here

01:15

but where can you use live freeze in the rc? i can't find it in the map editor

https://matrix.to/#/@jupeyy:matrix.org new version is really unstable (edited)

01:53

it segfaults quite often, but tabbing out works

01:53

i cant start the client on gfx_fullscreen 1 cuz it segfaults, but i can switch in game

01:53

it seems to crash when switching maps

01:55

crash at startup using gfx_fullscreen 1:

[2022-02-11 02:54:33][client]: starting...
[2022-02-11 02:54:33][sdl]: SDL version 2.0.16 (compiled = 2.0.20)
[2022-02-11 02:54:33][gfx]: Created Vulkan zu.zu context.
[2022-02-11 02:54:34][vulkan]: enabled vulkan debug context.
[2022-02-11 02:54:34][vulkan]: device prop: non-coherent align: zu, optimal image copy align: zu, max texture size: 64, max sampler anisotropy: 1
[2022-02-11 02:54:34][vulkan]: device prop: min uniform align: 256, multi sample: 15
[2022-02-11 02:54:34][vulkan]: warning: requested presentation mode was not available. falling back to mailbox / fifo relaxed.
[2022-02-11 02:54:34][vulkan]: minimal swap image count 2
[2022-02-11 02:54:34][vulkan]: alignment for 1024x1024 image is 1024

01:55

then segfault

01:57

oh, it seems that dbg_gfx 4 is the reason of the segfaults

@louis it seems that it's not in entities yet

01:59

it's below the tele weapons

01:59

you can see the tooltips

hum, illegal instruction when trying bit2

02:00

[2022-02-11 02:58:58][vulkan]: vulkan error: Allocation from buffer object failed.
[2022-02-11 02:58:58][assert]: /home/jupeyy/Schreibtisch/Teeworlds/DDNet/ddnet_jupeyy/src/engine/client/backend/vulkan/backend_vulkan.cpp(1024): Allocation from buffer object failed.

heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4694 /practice teleport can be used to gain weapon projectiles at start

From Discord:

[2:28 AM] louis: although i haven't found out any maps, you can use /tp to teleport to some "winner room" or shotgun/laser in practice, /tp back to spawn, shoot the laser/shotgun, then kill immediately so the weapon bounces back on you after you kill

1

it works outside of /practice too

@plsplsplslol but only if you can actually get back to spawn outside of /practice

yeah

its been an issue for a long time

03:53

u can even do stuff like this

03:53

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633113490529321015/809850928932323358/Casthere.demo.mp4

03:53

but ivent found any maps to cheat it with (or else i would have cheated them)

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no @ᶰ°Konͧsti would

05:40

:konstitroll:

louis

but ivent found any maps to cheat it with (or else i would have cheated them)

I already cheated maps with that

05:44

And thats why the start shotgun on GetSpeed 3 is turned off when u finish

05:45

To avoid trols find a way to chot

send maps

Fixed

05:45

One was Getspeed

05:45

05:48

The other one was broken space

Biggest troll

oh ok, did we test validation layers last time? I wouldn't know any reason that it crashes without telling something, but maybe they are just buggy. (@Chairn)

Chairn

oh, it seems that dbg_gfx 4 is the reason of the segfaults

08:45

can you show how big the allocation was, BIT2 seems to be smaller in VRAM usage than Arctic Frost, so this is kinda unexpected, or you just have too many skins xD (@Chairn)

Chairn

hum, illegal instruction when trying bit2

08:45

(dbg_gfx 3) is just verbose no validation layers

in #4600 you said bit2 worked, i think i havent really changed anything since that

@Chairn: in your pic you use 1GB of VRAM just for textures, currently on a fresh install its a bit less than the half of it ( https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/940705460925898802/unknown.png )But i think the client should also use lessEditor images are around 50MB Entities can also save 50MB by simply not loading 2D textures if it requires 2D array texturestextures simply are a VRAM killer that's also why all these 4k games are like 100gb xdd

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4695 Always destroy bullets/lasers on kill when in practice team (fixes #4694)

to prevent /teleporting back to start line and cheating Any thoughts on whether to include this for 15.9? I'd say yes.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing map...

def-

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

c4e6031 Fix server stats - def-

heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4696 Duplicate message detection interacts badls with whispers

From Discord:

[5:58 AM] Broso56: small anti-spam bug where if your in whisper and someone types the same message as you it doesnt make a sound or a new message but just adds a [2] next to whatever message was sent [6:00 AM] Broso56: so instead of -> Friend: test its just -> Friend [2]: test

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and no other message, even though the message was sent by 2 different people

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How can show strong/weak in hud?

cl_nameplates_strong

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chillerdragon

Biggest troll

Plss fix my issue

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

bcf240a Update Portuguese translations (by Rockus) - def- d3fd837 Merge #4693 - bors[bot]

11:52

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4693 Update Portuguese translations (by Rockus)

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 5 new commits

43d81bc Add CentOS, RedHat, AlmaLinux instructions - def- bec66a2 Fix backend_opengl.cpp build (fixes #4681) - def- 720268a Fix compilation error in client.cpp - def- 1beb3f7 Fix backend_sdl.cpp build - def- 9bad96d Merge #4680 - bors[bot]

12:29

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4681 Compilation on CentOS 7 fails

12:29

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4680 Add CentOS, RedHat, AlmaLinux instructions and fix build

C0D3D3V

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4697 Show keystrokes in nametags and new option to show keypresses below players

As described in x the arrows that show the key presses of the players are not visible in many situations, this is now my attempt to fix this by including the arrows in the nametags. Also, I created a new option called cl_show_direction_below to show the arrows below the player. We can discuss whether this is useful, or whether it should simply be displayed as before only above the player.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame ...

its insane that discord cant fix such a simple thing

I'd guess the incentives aren't there

can't we add a simple bot that just bans someone who uses at everyone in 2 channels with the same message? would probs kill most automated bots

14:41

i mean we dont use at everyone anyway, we can also just delete all message with at everyone and links in it

someone sent me a collection of these scam links

14:43

at-everyone isn't contained in most of them

14:43

someone™ could try teaching the bot to delete duplicate messages

14:45

but that would only work because we're insignificant, bots could start to randomize their messages

true, but yeah thats my point, just do it for us xd

algrind

15:25

now that my search trolled me and i accedentally leaked it :D juppy ma frint how do you remember this long as command? I keep coming back to matrix to get it xd

Jupstar ✪

valgrind --show-reachable=yes --show-possibly-lost=yes  --error-limit=no --log-fd=2  --track-fds=yes --trace-children=yes --redzone-size=256 --leak-check=full --show-leak-kinds=all --track-origins=yes --verbose --log-file=valgrind-out.txt --fair-sched=yes

valgrind.txt

15:25

xd

where

in Dokumente/dev

15:26

xd

how many files are there?

image.png

leak

witcher 4 leak

watafak you have text files next to your git repos?

xd

you have serious brain damage

i just clone all git stuff there so i dont loose trakc of them

go leak SCP

scp -i ~/.ssh/rsa_idn /home/jupeyy/.teeworlds/maps/Miku4Lama.map mynamethatyouwontget@aliveclan.de:DDNET/data/maps

15:28

guess this was to remember the upload command for command line xd

nob

15:29

i think ill just a manpage for valgrind :D

15:29

i use some weird ass man page tool anyways

15:29

not too sold by your approach sorry

in Libs there are automatic build scripts for mesa drivers, thats more interesting xd

ChillerDragon

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4698 Close wordlist.txt file handle after use

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...

15:49

Do you know if its more efficient to do CChar... char = getplayerchar(...) and use it everywhere or call getplayerchar everywhere?

15:50

would make sense that the first is more efficient right

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

0a3c75b Close wordlist.txt file handle after use - ChillerDragon f1c77fc Merge #4698 - bors[bot]

15:50

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4698 Close wordlist.txt file handle after use

i wonder, maybe it gets inlined or smth

15:50

m_TeamMask = GameServer()->GetPlayerChar(Owner) ? GameServer()->GetPlayerChar(Owner)->Teams()->TeamMask(GameServer()->GetPlayerChar(Owner)->Team(), -1, m_Owner) : 0;

15:50

xd

xd looks perfect hard to say tho performance wise. compilers should be pretty good in this kind of stuff, depends on the complexity probs

with LTO it'd probably get inlined

15:53

otherwise it can't be, I think

does it depend on functions that are part of a class or what?

15:56

https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Optimize-Options.html#Optimize-Options does mention that they inline with optimizations on, but it doesn't declare what cases in this manual at least

Optimize Options (Using the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC))

I think that functions cannot be inlined across compilation units (= files) by default

not even if they are implemented in the header itself?

15:59

but generally it makes sense yeah

if they're implemented in the header, then they're part of the compilation unit

yeah

since they get inserted at the point of #include <header.h>

why does the antialiasing also affect the whole ui?

16:00

it doesnt look good

16:01

is it intentionally?

bcs its fsaa, so it affects the whole framebuffer

16:01

the framebuffers are created with multi sampling

I set it to 16, the UI doesn't look bad for me

it creates a fat delay xd

idk i have a normal 1080p monitor and the ui/hud looks abit blurry

wouldn't you want especially UI with multi sampling? xd

Jupstar ✪

it creates a fat delay xd

i feel no input delay difference

ouch

Jupstar ✪

wouldn't you want especially UI with multi sampling? xd

no, without the aa everything looks so sharp and not washed out

but i dunno what you expect, thats the whole point of it

16:03

so there is a more "washed out" transition

idk i just have a different experience with other games at aa

how many games you play even use plain transparency.. if i ever see transparency its always milky which looks much nicer anyway (imo)

what do you mean?

i mean can you just show a game that uses round corners and looks better and is similar to ddnet ui? xd

i dont get exactly what you mean but generally speaking when looking at the text especially, in ddnet I instantly see that its blurry, but I think other games, the aa effect only applies to the 3d stuff (edited)

16:12

and not ui/hud

ah if you mean text yeah

16:12

text usually uses hinting techniques, we could also relativly implement it for the newer renderers

yeah it looks like i forgot to put on my glasses

heinrich5991

I set it to 16, the UI doesn't look bad for me

at play with MSAA 0 on upstream because text, especially console is really blurry

but GL 1.x. mhhh would need to check xd

Jupstar ✪

text usually uses hinting techniques, we could also relativly implement it for the newer renderers

whats hinting techniques?

like respecting RGB subpixel

16:14

or BGR whatever your LED screen uses

and what does the aa of ddnet do differently than other games? (edited)

it should just not be used for text

16:15

its not useful for this case

yeah, are you able to change that?

that would require doing multisampling your own so it doesnt affect the whole screen

16:15

too much time for almost no gain

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

3650281 Always destroy bullets/lasers on kill when in practice team (fixes #4694) - def- 22a5bb9 Merge #4695 - bors[bot]

16:16

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4694 /practice teleport can be used to gain weapon projectiles at start

16:16

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4695 Always destroy bullets/lasers on kill when in practice team (fixes #4694)

i have too little knowledge on that but i thought its something that could be changed fairly easy

well easy, yeah there are 1 trillion tutorials where you will find everything you need, if you want to try it go ahead

16:20

for newer opengl versions you can simply do it inside the shaders, i dunno about older OGL

can i suggest that on the github and if its good it will be implemented into the game?

16:21

like the actual code

you should remember that this isnt very efficient tho, it requires you to either know about the current framebuffer content, or it will be just an approximation of what you really want, e.g. just create more transparent borders so it looks smoother

16:23

i have nothing against it ^^ (@Iza)

Izanagi

like the actual code

i really know basically nothing about coding/game development but maybe i should get into it

i'd say it can be a lot of fun, the vulkan backend was probs the most fun i had this coding within the last 2-3 years^^

16:24

with coding*

i really wish i knew anything about it because i have so many ideas in my head

Jupstar ✪

i'd say it can be a lot of fun, the vulkan backend was probs the most fun i had this coding within the last 2-3 years^^

is it true that the vulkan engine is more effecient than the directx engine?

you cannot generally say that

16:26

but vulkan thought about almost anything and even respects mobile platforms

16:27

but in the end it depends on the driver still

ChillerDragon

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4699 Headless client crash

Backtrace is from a closed src ddnet fork. The issue seems to be popups in the menu still call a textrender which is not nulled yet. ``` Thread 1 "statsbot_d" received signal SIGINT, Interrupt. CGraphics_ThreadedNull::QuadsSetSubset (this=0x7ffff40f6010, TlU=0, TlV=0, BrU=0, BrV=0.300000012) at /home/chiller/Desktop/git/chillerbot-zx/src/engine/client/graphics_threaded_null.h:92 92 void QuadsSetSubset(float TlU, float TlV, float BrU, float BrV) override{}; (gdb) b Breakpo...

I just see alot of people saying in terms of the end user performance that its better

vulkan is crossplatform so its used by basically all newer emulators it will be used by more and more games now that valve pushed linux so hard and as said mobile platforms profit from it too so i guess vulkan and dx12 are soo good bcs they get the most support

16:29

most ppl think about these two if they do computer graphics

ah okay

red dead redemption vulkan seems to be a few percentage better than dx12, but who knows how well written the backends are its really hard to predict, maybe vulkan is an edge more low level

yeah valve is doing everything right now to optimize games for their upcomming handheld gaming device

Jupstar ✪

red dead redemption vulkan seems to be a few percentage better than dx12, but who knows how well written the backends are its really hard to predict, maybe vulkan is an edge more low level

from my personal experience since steam gives you the option between vulkan and dx12 when launching, vulkan definitely runs smoother

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for the game r6 atleast

i dont even know many games that have native vk and dx12 backend tbh

16:33

most are either one or the other

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4700 Fix integer overflow of snapshot delta item size

Fixes ``` src/engine/shared/snapshot.cpp:373:13: runtime error: signed integer overflow: 1661611014 * 4 cannot be represented in type 'int' #0 0x56377a580246 in CSnapshotDelta::UnpackDelta(CSnapshot const, CSnapshot, void const, int) src/engine/shared/snapshot.cpp:373 #1 0x563779c540d3 in CClient::ProcessServerPacket(CNetChunk) src/engine/client/client.cpp:1465 #2 0x563779c5a5fc in CClient::PumpNetwork() src/engine/client/client.cpp:1599 #3 0x563779c622ce in CClien...

btw how do you read and send messages? what kind of bridge do you use?

16:36

in discord

im in the matrix ddnet group rn

16:39

there is a bot you can search it easily in the web

ah okay

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

800a5fb Fix integer overflow of snapshot delta item size - Robyt3 0dbb488 Merge #4700 - bors[bot]

16:47

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4700 Fix integer overflow of snapshot delta item size

chillerdragon

now that my search trolled me and i accedentally leaked it :D juppy ma frint how do you remember this long as command? I keep coming back to matrix to get it xd

make it an alias 'valgrindall' or create a small shell script that you put somewhere in the PATH

16:56

for instance i got an alias called gccsanitize that is:

16:58

gcc -g -fsanitize=address -fsanitize=undefined -fsanitize=shift -fsanitize=shift-exponent -fsanitize=shift-base -fsanitize=integer-divide-by-zero -fsanitize=unreachable -fsanitize=vla-bound -fsanitize=null -fsanitize=return -fsanitize=signed-integer-overflow -fsanitize=bounds -fsanitize=bounds-strict -fsanitize=bool -fsanitize=enum

Iza

btw how do you read and send messages? what kind of bridge do you use?

It's the bridge to the matrix room #ddnet-developer:matrix.org using https://t2bot.io/discord

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@heinrich5991 u might find this interesting https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-clippy/issues/7666

Most commonly ignored lints on crates.io · Issue #7666 · rust-lang/...

This is a similar methodology to #5418, but using all published crates on crates.io as the data source, rather than repos indexed by grep.app. The old table is a year and a half out of date at this...

@deen

There are 3 graphics you sent, but only 2 tiles, and the first and last look very similar to normal freeze and deepfreeze

i think its cuz it is, he probably put it there just to visualize what it looks like compared to freeze and deepfreeze

17:41

from murpi:

Freeze, Live Freeze, Deepfreeze

17:46

Theres quiet a "major" bug. I think its major bcs it can happen at any moment in game and specialy when you are speedrunning. The bug happens if you use cl_skin_download_url https://api.skins.tw/api/resolve/skins/ and you have download skins enabled. You play, you make a nice speedrun, suddenly someone joins in with non standard skin from skins.tw and you have a nice big red popup on full screen that this skin have wrong width height etc. Its not a big problem when you have this info when you start a game and when you are in menu, but not when you are on server and you are racing. Ofcourse when pop happens you no longer can move or do anything you need to close it first. Maybe move that popup from ingame screen to menu only ! or something ?

tell skins.tw to fix their skins

@Tsin contact skins.tw

also now that u said that ppl will be hijacking runs xd

https://discord.gg/mTVQuEDzzc

Invite to join a server

Teeworlds Data

welcome

i think a better solution to the skin error would be, that if you're not in a server, it pops up at usual (happens only on startup), but if you're either in a server or in a race, then it only shows it in chat instead of a huge bubble, so that it doesnt actually interrupt gameplay

18:09

or just get the admins of skins.tw to fix their skins in db

https://skins.tee.world/ has no broken skins

https://mods.tw/ soon to exist

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18:10

https://skins.tee.world/skin.php?skin=fool2.png

best skin

good job https://skins.tee.world/skinlist.php?skin=%27 doesnt work

18:13

i always try to put a ' on php websites

18:13

u would be surprised how many sql injections u find

wtf dont hack me

https://skins.tee.world/skin.php?skin=../../../../../../etc/passwd%00

18:18

doesn't work either

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/601 when implement this

where is that guy btw

18:19

he did quite alot in the past as it looks xd

you know what would be cool? if for these tee showcasing websites, all the tees would be staring at your mouse pointer

0.7 skin selection xd

18:20

creepy af xd

18:20

we need that too

lol

18:22

you know what would be even better? if there was a program to actually, like, render out a tee image that looks like the one in game. tee.js seems very disconnected from how it actually looks in DDNet

floats in js are wild

18:22

maybe its that

18:22

xd

maybe

don't think so

just do it with ints

it's probably just not copied correctly from ddnet source

and from what I know, people are forced to resort to chroma mapping when it comes to youtube thumbnails

what is chroma mapping?

idk what its called

18:23

but its like- greenscreen (edited)

anyway @Patiga help

18:24

you have a tool that fixed this dont u?

our local skin rendering expert @Patiga

I don't see what you want to fix rn ^^

and map parsing expert

i thought u worked on a skin renderer or smth

18:26

or was it all for blender?

ah I was confused by your 'fixed'. I only did skin stuff for blender. @Avolicious made one in php I think

ah nice is it accurate?

Voxel

and from what I know, people are forced to resort to chroma mapping when it comes to youtube thumbnails

chroma keying? or maybe rotoscoping?

you can use that api I suppose

18:30

the code for it is not available though afaik

Btw isn't what we use on the skindb acceptable? Is it inaccurate?

it looks off I think

its pretty bad xd

xcd

it doesnt allow high res skins

18:31

its definitly off

they dont flip the eye (edited)

looks good to me

lmao

Learath2

looks good to me

body is too up

and feet too small I think

xDD

18:32

learath blind xDDD

18:32

he looks like he's about to jump

you just have scanner eyes

lets make one in WebGPU

18:33

0% overkill

ingame

18:33

website

ZombieToad

lmao

18:34

Cmon, it's not even that far off

its rly far off

its just a few pixels YEP

use any skin that doesnt have symmetrical eyes

with tune gravity -200 it kinda looks ok

where is the script that generates them?

If I open gimp and they go exactly on top all of you telling me it's off are getting banned

18:34

go

lmao

@murpi: when he gets 200 pings per da

18:35

y

Learath2

Cmon, it's not even that far off

yea the right eye probably just isnt mirrored

18:35

ah wrong answer ping

if I look up my favorits skin, gooofdoom there, it looks off by a lot

@ZombieToad: so you got a working renderer?

18:36

pr it xd

where is the script that generates them?

its not live renderer

@Patiga https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web/blob/master/www/skins/tee.js

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web/blob/c4e6031f30f4c6c88ff12eb3b5229da4ec2bbe9c/www/skins/tee.js

18:37

permalink

hi irc users in 6 years!

18:37

do you think matrix will still exist in 6 years

no

IRC will still exist in 6 years

18:38

discord no idea, same for matrix

who adds support for building the client with webasm, then we can just render the skin using client code xdd

that sounds like overkill

jupstar if ddnet was made in rust it wouldnt be that far fetched

18:39

here are the two on top of eachother, left feet is like maybe a handful of pixels different

18:40

who is going to gulag first?

can oyu render a diff image?

the skin in ddnet.tw is definitly off u dont need to be a eye wizard for it

xDDD

here is the diff, as best as I can align it with hand

that looks c ursed

Ryozuki

the skin in ddnet.tw is definitly off u dont need to be a eye wizard for it

it's a handful of pixels off, you are all like high as a kite

i understand why ppl dont see diff between 144hz and 60hz xD

the eyes being a little smaller is the only thing that's noticable

did u put both feet at same level

its the same reason

i dont know how to interpret the diff image

18:41

xd

"your eye can only see 24 fps, why do you need 144 fps?"

18:43

(best flame bait)

tabs > spaces

2ms input more is nothing, humans have 150ms delay anyway

rust > c

18:43

linux > windows

lmao, now i have to think of wayland with forced vsync

@Learath2 the feet are also too small, I noticed that directly when I saw my favorite skin

vim > emacs

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Learath2

the eyes being a little smaller is the only thing that's noticable

i also see it rendering blacks over the colors

ubuntu 22 will have wayland and all windows users have a reason to flame linux xD

systemd > runit

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kog > ddnet

1

its cuz wayland devs are not gamers

tru words (@Ryozuki)

Ryozuki

tabs > spaces

Patiga

@Learath2 the feet are also too small, I noticed that directly when I saw my favorite skin

This and the eyes

bencie

i think a better solution to the skin error would be, that if you're not in a server, it pops up at usual (happens only on startup), but if you're either in a server or in a race, then it only shows it in chat instead of a huge bubble, so that it doesnt actually interrupt gameplay

and that makes sense not a stupid popup over whole screen that you need to close specialy when you are racing, @Learath2 or @heinrich5991 please move that skin info to console or chat.

yeah but its just funny how they try to argument the fact away that there is more delay

18:44

doesnt matter if bad or good

this is the real flamewar

18:45

learath will say vsync is good

xDDDDDD

maybe learath is 80y old and he doesnt know

Tsin

and that makes sense not a stupid popup over whole screen that you need to close specialy when you are racing, @Learath2 or @heinrich5991 please move that skin info to console or chat.

skins.tw should stop accepting broken skins

thats why so many stuff looks same for him

18:45

here are the scalings and positions of all the tee body parts, if someone wants to fix the script

tee_notes.txt

567 bytes

you all are just nutjobs ngl

I agree with @Learath2

tsin is writing the ddmax bible

18:46

to start another flamewar

why do we have to fix skins.tww skins?

it doesnt matter if they should accept it or not, if doesnt break the game then player wont give a f@#k, player see a big popup while racing and that destroys his/her gameplay so its a client problem not the data itself just comunicate the skin error in other way not a stupid popup (edited)

yeah skins.tw should fix their stuff

Their api is generating an error and people want us to fix it

18:47

It's not a service we provide

have you even contacted skins.tw yet?

Tsin

it doesnt matter if they should accept it or not, if doesnt break the game then player wont give a f@#k, player see a big popup while racing and that destroys his/her gameplay so its a client problem not the data itself just comunicate the skin error in other way not a stupid popup (edited)

it is a data problem tho

whom do you trust more, a computer saying the skin is not good, or your eyes xd (@Tsin)

Tsin

and that makes sense not a stupid popup over whole screen that you need to close specialy when you are racing, @Learath2 or @heinrich5991 please move that skin info to console or chat. (@bencie)

their skins are broken, while yes i'd prefer it showing up in chat instead ,its still skins.tw fault afterall

if you share a broken skin, then someone else shares it too, and then someone breaks it even more

info about error is shown to player by game client so instead of popup show it diffrently some into in console whatever

and then you are in an endless loop of worse and worse skins

that won't motivate you to contact skins.tw to fix their stuff

@NeXus maybe u should read this

average player don't see any bug ingame with that skin so why should he/she contact anyone ? =]

because of the popup

Its like downloading a third party software then complaining to microsoft

Tsin

average player don't see any bug ingame with that skin so why should he/she contact anyone ? =]

Actually on some gpus it just will completely glitch out

look, i get it, message is important, great I get it. Now use your brain both of you and handle that communication to the player in other way that it wont f@ck his/her speedrun

no =]

reset cl_download_skins_url to default to fix it

@Ryozuki get lost =]

=]

How about I use my brain to get out of this conversation? Forgot how toxic you get

18:51

Bye

way to kill the convo

18:52

the non skins.tw stuff was fun

18:52

bye

@Learath2: we all love u tho <3 (all of the homo)

whats toxic about it ? that I try to point out that there should be a better way to communicate to players an error that they see ?

I think it might have been the "now use your brain", but not sure

@Tsin: anyway, nexus is pinged, maybe he'll fix it, then the warning did its job

the reason a popup is shown is to get people to fix it. your suggestion doesn't seem like it'd get people to fix it

in meantime dont use that skin site

Ryozuki

@NeXus maybe u should read this

Whats up

use skins.tee.world :D its a complete copy of the pre louis ddnet.tw db with some extra skins aswell

its not me, im talking in name of many players who asked me about that strange error that don't say anything to them.

@NeXus apparently skins.tw has a skin with wrong format and it shows popup errors in the ddnet client

18:57

it would be great if you can fix it

18:57

i dont know which skin is

18:57

since i dont use skins.tw

maybe we should show the download URL

Does it only show it on the broken skin?

skin name would probably be enough, not sure if it already shows it

NeXus

Does it only show it on the broken skin?

yes (edited)

OK I can scan all skins and See which have a wrong Format. But cant fix it till tomorrow

NeXus you manage skins.tw ?

@NeXus did u join unique btw?

19:00

i saw a github commit xd

It has to be devideble by 16 right?

Ryozuki

@NeXus did u join unique btw?

Yes

welcome then :D

19:01

https://uniqueclan.net/member

19:01

poggers

Tsin

NeXus you manage skins.tw ?

The Website yeah

8 width and 4 height i think

19:01

and if you dont want streetched skins, height is half of width

ok, so please tell me if you will scan all skins and fix them will you also include a fix that will make that for new upcoming skins ?

Yeah. There is no size check for skins atm

19:03

I'll add it

cool, thanks!

$width = $image->getImageWidth();
$height = $image->getImageHeight();

if($width == 0 || ($width % 16) != 0 || $height == 0 || ($height % 16) != 0) {
    exit('The width or height of image is not divisible by 16');
}

if($width / $height !== 2) {
    exit('The aspect ratio of image is not 2:1');
}

if($width > 4096) {
    exit('The image resolution is too big. max 4k');
}

if($width < 256) {
    exit('The image resolution is too small. min 256x128');
}

here is code i use to check resolutions hope it helps (edited)

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thank you, btw @heinrich5991 and @Learath2 rly guys think about average players, showing them a popup with an error while racing isnt rly the best solution (move it to chat, move it to console, show it in menu only or make that popu smaller and add it in some corner and make it so it wont stop your gameplay).

hm. I've actually never seen ZombieToad do something that's only positive

??? i fixed a couple ddnet bugs before

can you link one? I actually don't remember ^^

i remember

hein very RICH troll

19:09

i also remember when sp someone trolled the old wiki monkalaugh

heinrich5991

can you link one? I actually don't remember ^^

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commits?author=ZombieToad

i kinda miss pain weapons bug

19:11

:(

Ryozuki

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commits?author=ZombieToad

ty

btw 4096x2048 skin will use almost 70MB vram, so maybe a more sane value would make more sense xd

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19:19

but a database for svg skins would be nice too :D

wats wrong w our baby https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-data-svg ?

GitHub - ddnet/ddnet-data-svg

Contribute to ddnet/ddnet-data-svg development by creating an account on GitHub.

thats only for ddnet client skins tho

ah so non standard ddnet mapres for example

19:21

i have an outstanding collection of 1 svg mapres https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/mapres/tree/master/svg xd

mapres/svg at master · TeeworldsDB/mapres

A sorted collection of teeworlds mapres. Contribute to TeeworldsDB/mapres development by creating an account on GitHub.

i still have quite a few svg skins made by mind

go donate them to me

19:22

pr or nob

Jupstar ✪

btw 4096x2048 skin will use almost 70MB vram, so maybe a more sane value would make more sense xd

i have 8gb ram its okay

xd

19:24

tru gamer

imagine playing tw with less than 32gb gpu memory

deen with his 64gb or whatever

19:28

xd

wait wat does he?

i have 32gb ram

naa

where can i send you the skins?

oh i meant my video card ram

pr against the repo

he has a M1 max

i have 32gb ddr3

it shares VRAM with normal RAM

my computer is old

watfaka

its basically VRAM only xd

didnt know that

19:29

holy shiet

he is rich bro

so how much is it?

but apple sadly sucks at making software

19:29

else nice hardware xD

19:29

i dunno

is ddr5 ram out yet?

thats crazy so its basically a dope gpu in there?

and im still using ddr3

check this jupstar https://asahilinux.org/about/

About - Asahi Linux

Porting Linux to Apple Silicon

19:30

the main dev is from spain

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19:30

curiosity xd

@Deleted User e4d67636 https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/mapres/pulls

Pull requests · TeeworldsDB/mapres

A sorted collection of teeworlds mapres. Contribute to TeeworldsDB/mapres development by creating an account on GitHub.

the GPU itself is like 3060 or smth, remember its "just" a laptop (<@749222324980416602_=5bquakenet=5d=20=43hiller=44ragon>)

@_discord_749222324980416602_=5b

thats crazy so its basically a dope gpu in there?

[quakenet] ChillerDragon

@Deleted User e4d67636 https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/mapres/pulls

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well they slap in some mobile version of every gpu in laptops right?

not mapres

i mean i have a laptop with a 2080 :;D

19:31

if not mapres wat u want to

19:31

send me

yeah

19:31

skins

19:32

chera, pikachu and some glow skins

19:32

we talked about skins the last 2 hours xd

actually poggers

glowsward

19:32

thats one for you xD

send teeskins here https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/skins

GitHub - TeeworldsDB/skins: A collection of 0.6 and 0.7 teeworlds s...

A collection of 0.6 and 0.7 teeworlds skins that aims to be complete. Quantity over quality. - GitHub - TeeworldsDB/skins: A collection of 0.6 and 0.7 teeworlds skins that aims to be complete. Quan...

Ryozuki

actually poggers

Dream life, imagine getting paid to reverse engineer stuff

19:34

No capitalist overlord alienating you from your labour either

19:34

Pure labour value

Dream life, imagine getting paid.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938783659090141276/941779503267602452/Skins.zip

19:35

too lazy chiller

19:35

do it yourself xd

19:35

give mind credit

https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/skins/issues/2

Add skins by mind · Issue #2 · TeeworldsDB/skins

Add skins by mind https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938783659090141276/941779503267602452/Skins.zip

19:44

lmao

trollerdragon

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ChillerDragon when fix my problem

20:54

Hi, would be great if you could fix the debug graph.

Jupstar ✪

he is rich bro

it‘s my work laptop, I didn‘t pay for it

modest and rich =]

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4701 Add live freeze graphics by Soapy Sandwich

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...