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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 00:47:46Z
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[ddnet:15.9-rc1] 1 new commit
d153ed9 Version 15.9 - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet-web] New branch created: pr-15.9
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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #171 Version 15.9
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[ddnet-web:pr-15.9] 1 new commit
fa64452 x86_64 -> x86-64 - def-
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[ddnet-web:pr-15.9] 1 new commit
9321423 Version 15.9 - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4662 Version 15.9
DDNet 15.9 is supposed to release in 1 week, assuming no bad bugs are found. Please test the Release Candidate to prevent problems being only discovered after release. Report bugs in the #bugs channel on DDNet Discord or directly on Github:
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4655 Add windowed fullscreen ( a special case for Windows )
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4597 Windowed mode
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4663 Update spanish.txt

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Tsin 2022-02-06 03:40:41Z
tiny bug in changelog
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 05:30:31Z
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chillerdragon BOT 2022-02-06 08:34:11Z
Oh cool a macOS installer I always missed that :) who made it?
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 09:09:27Z
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[ddnet-web:pr-15.9] 2 new commits
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tiny bug in changelog
deen 2022-02-06 09:09:50Z
Thanks
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Oh cool a macOS installer I always missed that :) who made it?
deen 2022-02-06 09:10:57Z
ehm, maybe calling it an installer is too much. It's just a background image when you open the dmg and then you drag the files into applications. But most applications on macOS didn't use a real installer, but this approach instead
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 09:33:53Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4664 Pr transl wf

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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
87df5b8 newJumps → NewJumps - heinrich5991 620d611 Add "groundjump-only" tile - heinrich5991 90944e0 Merge #4654 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4654 Add a groundjump-only tile
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
05a1dfa Update translation status - def-
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 09:45:23Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
d6e4e3b Update spanish.txt - n0Ketchp d371e9e Merge #4663 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4663 Update spanish.txt
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 10:12:57Z
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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
df67246 Update translations - def- 7ad79e1 Update German translation - def- 9c0cca9 Merge #4664 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4664 Update translations
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 10:25:17Z
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[ddnet:15.9-rc2] 6 new commits
d153ed9 Version 15.9 - def- 5e8a337 Update spanish.txt - n0Ketchp 7084b0d Update translations - def- 775faf0 Update German translation - def- 526a64e newJumps → NewJumps - heinrich5991 fcd559c Add "groundjump-only" tile - heinrich5991
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 10:39:34Z
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[ddnet-web:pr-15.9] 2 new commits
b61a7b2 Version 15.9 - def- d74b61a x86_64 -> x86-64 - def-
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 10:58:22Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4665 Support saving any size binds (fixes #4660)
Since we store the bind with malloc, we also need to use malloc here to allow any size when saving the binds in config file

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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 11:52:57Z
https://master2.ddnet.tw/ddnet/15/servers.json
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An error occurred during a connection to master2.ddnet.tw. Peer’s Certificate has been revoked. Error code: SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE
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it's a revoked let's encrypt certificate
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 11:54:53Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
db4d9f9 Support saving any size binds (fixes #4660) - def- f654b1a Merge #4665 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4660 settings cfg binds different output after save
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4665 Support saving any size binds (fixes #4660)
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 11:55:12Z
I don't know which server it's on. can you help me, @deen?
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deen 2022-02-06 11:55:29Z
@TsFreddie aren't you running master2 ^?
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 11:55:43Z
(we have bad monitoring btw ^^)
11:55
I should try setting some up
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deen 2022-02-06 11:55:54Z
I don't think I have any control of that, just know we have master1
11:56
We should probably do some more monitoring for the other ddnet stuff too
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I noticed they cut off my crontab emails, not sure why
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TsFreddie 2022-02-06 11:56:21Z
Ye thatst mine
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I forgot let's encrypt is a thing
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Was it supposed to be revoked this month?
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 11:56:57Z
they revoked certificates somewhen, you probably got hit by that
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no, revocation, not expiry
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TsFreddie 2022-02-06 11:57:11Z
I know
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Heard that
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 11:57:25Z
they revoked certificates because they were valid for 90days + 1 second instead of 90 days IIRC 😄
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TsFreddie 2022-02-06 11:57:40Z
justatest
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I dont actually know how to force caddy to renew cert
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Let me google a bit
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 11:58:17Z
delete the cert, restart caddy
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should work™
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deen 2022-02-06 11:59:12Z
sigh
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 11:59:16Z
how do you do monitoring at work?
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I've seen people use prometheus and grafana for fancy graphs and also alerts
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but I have no experience with either
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I'm running a simple https://healthchecks.io/ installation at home for my cronjobs
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deen 2022-02-06 12:00:59Z
email notifications actually 😄
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so not too far off from what I like personally. Maybe I should check why my emails are getting blocked
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 12:01:37Z
what powers these emails? failed cronjobs? something else?
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deen 2022-02-06 12:01:55Z
but at my old job lots of prometheus + grafana, but I heard it's pretty heavy-weight
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Some python that sends smtp mails for example, run on certain jobs/times by jenkins
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TsFreddie 2022-02-06 12:08:08Z
done
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i think
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 12:08:29Z
lgtm
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how do you do monitoring at work?
ReiTW 2022-02-06 12:28:45Z
ig depends of what you want to monitor, us we use checkmk
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 12:29:36Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4666 Fall back to Visual Studio 16
since it seems not all github worflow servers are on VS17 yet

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ReiTW 2022-02-06 12:34:15Z
and grafana+prometheus too seems like
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 12:40:33Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3041 Spawning is still shuffled when in a solo team
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 12:50:02Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
f0f7d0a Try not to pass any Visual Studio version and use default - def- 93c7619 Merge #4666 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4666 Fall back to Visual Studio 16
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 12:53:03Z
the web where i read manga is rly open about its inner workings, a good blog post (where mention a lot of monitoring): https://mangadex.dev/mangadex-v5-infrastructure-overview/
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
d96f354 Make spawn position independent of players in other teams - def- 00f93da Merge #4661 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4661 Make spawn position independent of players in other teams
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Wohoo 2022-02-06 13:14:57Z
@deen in FNG you could spawn over an enemy, if he is on the other team spawn point
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deen 2022-02-06 13:19:09Z
fng doesn't use our source code, does it?
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if it does, then I was not aware, and can fix that
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the web where i read manga is rly open about its inner workings, a good blog post (where mention a lot of monitoring): https://mangadex.dev/mangadex-v5-infrastructure-overview/
Learath2 2022-02-06 13:23:52Z
Very interesting read
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 13:23:59Z
indeed
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Learath2
Very interesting read
Ryozuki 2022-02-06 13:24:21Z
it wasnt posted in hn because some ppl there think its borderly ilegal etc xd
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Learath2 2022-02-06 13:24:54Z
It probably is in some way illegal :D
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 13:24:56Z
but the reality is that if it wasnt for this scanlation groups most mangas would be lost
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 13:25:14Z
does it host mangas?
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 13:25:17Z
mangadex actually removes serialized mangas from the website
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it just happens that most mangas dont get serialized xd
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and for that reason they never see oficial english translations
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thats where fansubs come
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 13:26:25Z
so it hosts mangas, but it removes those that get their own series?
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 13:26:26Z
in
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@heinrich5991 it removes the ones that get serialzied, aka the ones that get a publisher
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idk if they remove it immediately or on demand by the publish tho
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but its all in the website the process
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if actually existed a website like crunchyroll but with the amoutn of mangas mangadex has i would pay for it
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but its nonexistant
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they only have normie mangas
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and the interesting ones are hidden gems
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xd
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 13:28:43Z
they have 99% less cost than a naive aws estimate ^^
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that's a lot 😄
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 13:28:51Z
ye its impressive
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they also have some kind of decentralized image serving
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called mangadex@home
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u share ur bandwidth
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they serve no ads and make no profit at all
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 13:30:32Z
sounds like the good guys 😉
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like lichess
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 13:30:43Z
yea
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also scanlation groups go there themselves to put their translations
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instead of the shady websites that steal from them
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xd
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 13:31:57Z
as far as I can tell, they also "steal" according to this definition, but they're not shady at least ^^
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 13:32:41Z
i mean steal from the scanlation groups
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since most groups publish to their own website, so they can make a bit of money to buy the raws
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mangadex allows u to publish a episode with x delay
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so users first go to the scanlators website and after x days they can read it in mangadex
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xd
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well this is too #off-topic now
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monkaS
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Learath2 2022-02-06 13:35:06Z
Impressive how they can serve that many requests at that budget
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They are lucky that their traffic is web so they can rely on things like load balancers and cheap ddos protection :D
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 14:27:22Z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v68zYyaEmEA
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The mathematically optimal Wordle strategy
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Cipy29 2022-02-06 15:09:50Z
i had no idea there are so many S*ILL words omg (edited)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v68zYyaEmEA
n000b 2022-02-06 16:16:52Z
We had a dutch show like this on tv. Except you receive the first letter of a 5 letter word. 2 guys figured out for each starting letter which 3 words to use to be sure what was the answer. Each word had a maximum of 5 guesses. So they learned 26*3 words to beat the game. And a lot of words they used i didn't even know it existed xD
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 16:46:30Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4667 Update Copyright year
Same as last year

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Learath2 2022-02-06 17:02:51Z
Should we maybe start shipping curl without schannel support? Whenever curl broke on windows it was because of schannel and that seems to be the issue for the person in #questions aswell
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both chrome and firefox don't use schannel so when they visit the site on their browsers the error doesn't appear, but it does when they use internet explorer
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Learath2 2022-02-06 17:20:58Z
How could schannel: failed to receive handshake, SSL/TLS connection failed be the most verbose this stupid library can get without having to modify a registry key and restarting?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v68zYyaEmEA
Dragere 2022-02-06 17:27:03Z
There is a similar board game. Sadly this is the best online version i could find: https://webgamesonline.com/mastermind/rules.php
Play Mastermind Online
Mastermind Rules. Rules of the game
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 17:27:34Z
ye but the viral one is wordle
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 17:38:53Z
@Learath2 we might get people with corporate proxies that fail due to custom certificates, if we don't use schannel
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@Learath2 can ie display more interesting info?
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Learath2 2022-02-06 17:39:28Z
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Apparently translates to "It is possible that the site uses outdated or unreliable TLS protocol security settings. If this happens again, contact the website owner."
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 17:40:04Z
cloudflare surely doesn't do any of that…
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Learath2 2022-02-06 17:40:08Z
So I thought maybe his schannel settings were stuck with SSL3 for some reason
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But TLS 1.0 1.1 and 1.2 seem enabled and we support all those
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cloudflare surely doesn't do any of that…
Learath2 2022-02-06 17:40:48Z
Oh I wonder if he has a proxy set that he forgot
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 17:40:58Z
ah maybe that
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would that apply to curl?
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Learath2 2022-02-06 17:41:22Z
I think schannel uses ie settings
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and curl uses schannel
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Though how is he connecting to master2 then? :/
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 17:42:32Z
ah, schannel also manages the sockets?
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ah, schannel also manages the sockets?
Learath2 2022-02-06 17:43:07Z
I think so(tm). I'm not very familiar with it except for a debugfest 4 years back
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If only I could get this stupid thing to happen on my PC, it would be much easier for me to debug
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@heinrich5991 I don't quite get it but we are missing some debug output from curl somehow DEBUGF(infof(data, "schannel: sent initial handshake data: sent %zd bytes", written)); I never see this part
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 17:51:47Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
baa09c5 Update Copyright year - dragere 25f7d42 Merge #4667 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4667 Update Copyright year
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 17:52:25Z
@Learath2 where is that source from? can't find it in curl or ddnet
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Learath2 2022-02-06 17:53:06Z
I found it in curl. lib/vtls/schannel.c though I did merge a two liner. Grep for sent initial handshake
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 17:54:53Z
/* * Macro used to include code only in debug builds. */ #ifdef DEBUGBUILD #define DEBUGF(x) x #else #define DEBUGF(x) do { } while(0) #endif
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we likely don't have the debug build
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you could send a debug build of curl to that person ^^
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Learath2 2022-02-06 17:55:48Z
Ah, that is a good idea
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@deen could you please build one? I doubt me compiling it with msvc would work
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deen 2022-02-06 17:56:36Z
for x86-64?
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Learath2 2022-02-06 17:56:53Z
Though it'll spam stderr like there is no tomorrow, I'm not sure how I can demux the chatter when we do parallel requests :/
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deen 2022-02-06 17:57:18Z
what do I need to set?
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heinrich5991 2022-02-06 17:57:24Z
you can count how often you see "sent initial handshake"
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deen 2022-02-06 17:58:20Z
--enable-debug I guess
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Learath2 2022-02-06 17:58:31Z
x86-64 windows is what it looks like, and yep --enable-debug is what it seems to be
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chillerdragon BOT 2022-02-06 18:02:35Z
Ye actual installers are bloat! Idk how to call this thing but it’s nice! So much better than an empty drive thingy with only the apps in.So you big on macOS now? When will we get native Mac rendering support in Vulcan hehe? (@deen)
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ehm, maybe calling it an installer is too much. It's just a background image when you open the dmg and then you drag the files into applications. But most applications on macOS didn't use a real installer, but this approach instead
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deen 2022-02-06 18:02:50Z
No.
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@Learath2
libcurl.dll.zip
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2022-02-06 18:18:54Z
chillerdragon: we already tried vulkan with moltenVK
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it works, but thats about it, macos is also weird, it doesnt allow building the window surface on a different thread and stuff like that(even tho it is not async) and for whatever reason on m1 it only reaches around 144 FPS
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on android vulkan works great btw :D
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on windows it looks fine too, only tested a bit on gtx 760, gtx 1060 and my amd card
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chillerdragon BOT 2022-02-06 18:31:44Z
Wait no it wasn’t Vulkan I think Metal is the apple stuff right ?
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2022-02-06 18:32:00Z
yeah moltenvk is the translation layer
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it can translate most of vulkan 1.1 to metal
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tho there are limitations and also some performance regressions, since vulkan is a bit more "low level"
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2022-02-06 19:16:51Z
btw @deen i made the surface creation single threaded now, maybe you can test if thats enough also i'd like to know what steps are required to find vulkan under macos, i added the pkg config in FindVulkan, but i dunno if i have to search for moltenVK instead or smth
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2022-02-06 20:16:39Z
chillerdragon: why is ETextAlignment used like a flag? do you want left and right align at the same time or what xD
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also would be nicer if you could change the dolabel calls to only accept these enums
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chillerdragon: why is ETextAlignment used like a flag? do you want left and right align at the same time or what xD
Robyt3 2022-02-06 21:00:11Z
because you can have vertical and horizontal alignment at the same time, at least in vanilla
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https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/1ef3771bf641fe2d98ecba5596bb4dba5c2a9473/src/engine/textrender.h#L32-L50
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2022-02-06 21:04:12Z
then make 2 parameters
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or a struct
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Ryozuki 2022-02-06 21:43:16Z
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Steam-Deck-Platform-Driver
Steam Deck Platform Driver Posted For The Linux Kernel
A Linux kernel driver was posted today for platform control support for Valve's upcoming Steam Deck.
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GitHub BOT 2022-02-06 23:39:28Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4668 Fix bindings with modifiers
I work on a client for InfClass mod and it is important to have bindings for many situations, so we have to use modifiers (one modifier per bind). It turned out that bindings (with a modifier) are broken in DDNet since commit 4326d00df9fd79e6af719c0272b218e3a5052279 which changes the implementation to support modifier combinations but it messes up the UI part. I've considered options to revert the commit or to fix the combined modifiers and bravely 😅 choose the latter way. ...
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4669 Fix projectiles rendering during demo playback (+ few more small changes)
Due to an upstream bug, some projectiles were not rendered the demo playback. Rephrasing my in-code comment: "The render timing is usually screwed during demo playback because s_LastGameTickTime depends on the system timer, while the other part Client()->PrevGameTick()-pCurrent->m_StartTick)/(float)SERVER_TICK_SPEED is virtually constant (for projectiles fired on the current game tick): (x - (x+2)) / 50 = -0.04 We have a strict comparison for the passed time being more than the ti...
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