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Between 2022-02-01 00:00:00Z and 2022-02-02 00:00:00Z

[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit

c3b38a2 Fix steam linux build in chroot - def-

bluekitty

do u need some?

06:55

https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/sh947t/hvm_a_nextgen_massively_parallel_betaoptimal/

r/rust - HVM: a next-gen massively parallel, beta-optimal functiona...

159 votes and 28 comments so far on Reddit

07:20

any haskell fans? xd

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08:01

interesting project

08:01

(published yesterday)

08:01

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30154830

simonpure

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@heinrich5991 I can add the force tile layers and map bg today

[ddnet:master] 4 new commits

31f3c84 Lower chance of losing written files by syncing them to disk on close - def- 4d90119 Don't flush all files, some improvements to io_sync - heinrich5991 a51875f Sync the config file replacement to disk before renaming - heinrich5991 bc443ce Merge #4650 - bors[bot]

09:08

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4650 Lower chance of losing written files by syncing them to disk on close, my try

@fokkonaut should I reopen the pr?

I guess

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request reopened: #4359 Add disallow entities option

progress with my pdf parser written with a parser combinators library

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10:55

nested arrays monkaS

monkaS

10:55

greenthing

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10:57

since nom went from macros to just functions its way better imho

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10:57

cuz rust-analyzer had a hard time with it xd

GL 1.x

11:58

GL 3.3

11:58

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2.png

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11:58

and vulkan

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11:59

text rendering performance

11:59

(for streamed text)

11:59

i hope this will help M1 moltenVK should not have so much overhead

vulkan poggers

11:59

did u implement the renderer in vulkan?

yeah most stuff is finished

madman

but todo list still long xD

12:00

- viewport & scissor on fly changes (distinct the pipelines better for faster non clipped rendering)
- implement remaining render* calls (quads and streamed tiles missing)
- dynamic descriptor pool allocations when needed (maybe smaller pool sizes)
- implement texture destroy correctly (descriptors missing)
- v-sync not working? (or just radv bug?)
- implement new command buffer commands in OpenGL backend
- disallow alpha textures (new cmd for text textures)
- screenshots and video recorder not working
- decide on a heap
- check other swap chain images, if finished to free resources faster

12:00

interestingly radeon_si beats vulkan in a pure GPU bound scenario xD

xD

what are valve devs doing (also checked with zink to be sure)+

12:01

but in CPU bound, vulkan completly destroys opengl

12:02

you can test it, but it will probs consume around 2-3GB VRAM, bcs it doesnt really clear stuff rn https://github.com/Jupeyy/ddnet/tree/pr_vulkan

GitHub - Jupeyy/ddnet at pr_vulkan

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monkaS

12:02

i got only 4gb vram

12:02

xD

i actually want deen to test it

12:04

he just has to link moltenvk somehow, cant help him with that

im gonna test it

12:05

if only git downloaded at more than 3mb/s

12:11

idk why i cant checkout that branch

git remote add jupstar https://github.com/Jupeyy/ddnet.git git fetch --all git checkout jupstar/pr_vulkan

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ur remote is actually quite big lol

yes

12:14

its a grave

maybe do some cleanup xd

12:15

Segmentation fault (core dumped)

12:15

xd

12:15

[Switching to Thread 0x7fff967fc640 (LWP 78956)]
0x00007fff87a11a24 in ?? () from /usr/lib/amdvlk64.so
(gdb) bt
#0  0x00007fff87a11a24 in  () at /usr/lib/amdvlk64.so
#1  0x0000555555601973 in CCommandProcessorFragment_Vulkan::Cmd_Render(CCommandBuffer::SCommand_Render const*) (this=0x5555559b2c50, pCommand=0x555555bda320)
    at /home/ryozuki/Documents/ddnet/src/engine/client/backend/vulkan/backend_vulkan.cpp:1194
#2  0x0000555555603985 in CCommandProcessorFragment_Vulkan::RunCommand(CCommandBuffer::SCommand const*) (this=0x5555559b2c50, pBaseCommand=0x555555bda320)
    at /home/ryozuki/Documents/ddnet/src/engine/client/backend/vulkan/backend_vulkan.cpp:1805
#3  0x0000555555605376 in CCommandProcessor_SDL_GL::RunBuffer(CCommandBuffer*) (this=0x5555559b8330, pBuffer=<optimized out>)
    at /home/ryozuki/Documents/ddnet/src/engine/client/backend_sdl.cpp:232
#4  0x00005555556047ea in CGraphicsBackend_Threaded::ThreadFunc(void*) (pUser=pUser@entry=0x55555593be30) at /home/ryozuki/Documents/ddnet/src/engine/client/backend_sdl.cpp:77
#5  0x00005555555c12c7 in thread_run(void*) (user=<optimized out>) at /home/ryozuki/Documents/ddnet/src/base/system.cpp:820
#6  0x00007ffff5193259 in start_thread () at /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0
#7  0x00007ffff50bc5e3 in clone () at /usr/lib/libc.so.6

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/1 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/2 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/4 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/7

Show time of player you're spectating · Issue #1 · ddnet/ddnet

Probably difficult since spectators don't have a character?

Fix strong/weak with /lock · Issue #2 · ddnet/ddnet

Sometimes after killing with /lock on, a player doesn't get real strong, but some halfway thing. Generally strong depends on the time when you kill. With /lock both die at the exact same moment.

Fix autorecording with dummy and 2 clients · Issue #3 · ddnet/ddnet

Maybe even normal autorecording doesn't always work?

Timeout Protection is still buggy sometimes · Issue #4 · ddnet/ddnet

[03:46:35] aaa: i just got the timeout bug u showed me on ur server [03:47:02] aaa: i had a client in /pause locked on players, then i went to desktop and afk [03:47:05] aaa: when i came back i cou...

Timeout Protection doesn't work for dummy · Issue #5 · ddnet/ddnet

a backtrace for u

12:16

ugh

12:16

the bot went wild

with dbg_gfx 3 you'll get all kind of validation layers

[2022-02-01 13:15:40][gfx]: GPU renderer: AMD Radeon RX 580 Series [2022-02-01 13:15:40][gfx]: GPU version: Vulkan 1.3.203

12:16

let me check

maybe i allocate too much stuff xd

12:17

i just spammed everything with memory

hm

12:17

my gpu has 4gb vram probs

12:18

it dies after the loading bar

12:18

well i never get to see the menu

maybe choose a different background map

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12:19

with the dbg gfx 3

12:19

its a validation layer error i guess

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/build/vulkan-validation-layers/src/Vulkan-ValidationLayers-1.2.203/layers/core_validation.cpp: No such file or directory.

12:20

oh shoot

12:20

am i missing smth? xd

no idea tbh

12:20

for me they just work ™️

it spams a lot of [2022-02-01 13:18:55][vulkan]: allocated chunk of memory with size: 83886080 for frame 0 (buffer) [2022-02-01 13:18:55][vulkan]: allocated chunk of memory with size: 1048576 for frame 0 (image)

yeah

12:21

best is you quickly change storage.cfg to add_path $DATADIR add_path $DATADIR add_path $CURRENTDIR

UNASSIGNED-GeneralParameterError-UnrecognizedValue(ERROR / SPEC): msgNum: -1100021871 - Validation Error: [ UNASSIGNED-GeneralParameterError-UnrecognizedValue ] Object 0: VK_NULL_HANDLE, type = VK_OBJECT_TYPE_DEVICE; | MessageID = 0xbe6eff91 | VkValidationFeaturesEXT: value of pEnabledValidationFeatures[0] (32767) does not fall within the begin..end range of the core VkValidationFeatureEnableEXT enumeration tokens and is not an extension added token
    Objects: 1
        [0] 0, type: 3, name: NULL

so it doesnt load useless skins and stuff

a validation error

thats an extension

12:22

maybe your GPU doesnt support it, but its not required for rendeering, it just is a synchronization validation layer

12:22

basically like the thread sanitizer

[2022-02-01 13:18:57][vulkan_debug]: Validation Error: [ VUID_Undefined ] Object 0: handle = 0x7fff809c8490, type = VK_OBJECT_TYPE_DEVICE; | MessageID = 0x79de34d4 | vkCmdBindDescriptorSets: required parameter pDescriptorSets specified as NULL.

12:22

this one happens just before the crash tho

yeah i assume you have too much skins or smth like that

xd

currently the descriptor pool is static

maybe

thats on the todo xd

xd

just add a storage.cfg and add add_path $DATADIR add_path $DATADIR add_path $CURRENTDIR

well ill test again when its "finished" xd

12:23

ok

12:24

it doesnt crash now

nice

i get about 3200 fps

12:24

how to force opengl

is that alot for your GPU`xd

12:25

you cant in this pr

ah

i added some new stuff havent backported yet

i get 2000 fps with the same map and storage.cfg

12:26

definitly an improvement

12:26

poggers

epic

i think its better if instead of a script to compile shaders we do it from cmake

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https://gist.github.com/evilactually/a0d191701cb48f157b05be7f74d79396

12:30

probably more portable

yeah

12:30

i add it to the todo

nice

12:34

void UnloadTextures(IGraphics::CTextureHandle (&aTextures)[2])

12:34

i think i never seen this syntax before

its to make sure you use an array of size 2

is it different to void UnloadTextures(IGraphics::CTextureHandle &aTextures[2])

12:35

?'

does that compile?

12:35

but yeah

idk xd

generally added [] does not mean that its an array

12:36

but a pointer xD

ah

12:36

your way is the c++ way to pass a reference

12:36

instead of a pointer

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xd

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yeah :D

TIL

For one, it is often necessary to null-check pointers for safety protocols.

No, this is stupid, IMO. You don't check for other invalid pointers either.

xd

12:39

i never read the text when i search for stuff like that xD

anyway impressive work

or better: i prefer manuals over tutorials

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thanks

well its hard to find what u want in the manual if you don't know the name of what you are searching

12:40

so sometimes tutorials make it easier to find

true, but then i dont really read it xD

xd

atleast not whjat the author thinks or whatever

12:41

i just want to know how it works xD

ah ye

12:44

xd

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why ddnet use openngl3?

13:45

isnt it old

13:45

there is directx12, or it wont work?

bro vulkan is newer

13:46

vulkan best

13:46

but yeah opengl 3.3 is from 2006 iirc

13:46

vulkan from 2016, and vulkan 1.1 (what i use) is from 2018

it's not like support for opengl has an EOL yet

yeah but opengl really sucks everywhere except linux xD

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bro vulkan is newer

newer than directx12?

Smetanolub

newer than directx12?

dx12 came out in 2014

yea but thhey update it every month

13:48

no?

windows doesnt allow opengl drivers to have better access to the framebuffer or other way around, so stuff doesnt really render well in fullscreen macos completly removed it and has OpenGLonMetal which is kinda slow :D

wait so we have more fps on vulkannn than opgl?

dx12 is good, but its windows only and maybe a little bit easier than vulkan, same with metal(macos)

13:48

vulkan is state of the art :D

13:49

yeah vulkan in the screenshots outputs 3.3k fps, gl 3.3 2.6k fps

I'm a big fan of "just pass it off to a graphics library", but I do different things than you guys

its so funn to understand nothing comp with pc, while i will end college soonn as programmer

yeah i generally understand it, vulkan is overkill for 2d game

13:49

but teeworlds is for tryhards anyway xD

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but teeworlds is for tryhards anyway xD

yeah so wee need that extra 1 fps (edited)

THATS THE SPIRIT

indeed

14:58

gotta reach 10k fps

Smetanolub

newer than directx12?

dx12 is not crosscomplatible and vulkan is newer and cross compatible

Smetanolub

its so funn to understand nothing comp with pc, while i will end college soonn as programmer

well, you're there to learn something, not to hear about what you know already. sounds good

Smetanolub

wait so we have more fps on vulkannn than opgl?

i tested it and got 1.2k more fps on linux

15:01

but this is definitly cuz something is wrong with our opengl stuff, maybe not optimized or because we use 3.3 and not a more modern?

15:01

cuz on dota 2 the fps difference is like 10 when i test vulkan and opengl

Ryozuki

cuz on dota 2 the fps difference is like 10 when i test vulkan and opengl

10times or 10fps

10 fps

i'd say the binding concept of "older" openGL is just too much overhead, e.g. the Multeasy benchmark is also much faster, even tho its very similar vulkan But for streamed stuff, it's mostly because the advanced memory control, possible that newer opengl is faster. Newer GL is also more bindless, kills alot of CPU overhead

15:12

(similar to vulkan in terms of exectution flow)

could someone make a github issue for the idea of making blacklist for the server browser?

15:45

i want to avoid exec servers

deen

well, you're there to learn something, not to hear about what you know already. sounds good

Mh, I guess it is more fun that way, but one should really focus on also improving themselves during that time. College curriculums are like a decade behind nowadays :D

@deen: wanna try the vulkan thing with moltenvk? I dunno what brew install molten-vk exactly installs, but i guess it cant be that hard to get the dependencies right xd

I have it installed, what now?

try to build https://github.com/Jupeyy/ddnet/tree/pr_vulkan

GitHub - Jupeyy/ddnet at pr_vulkan

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17:20

i want to improve the M1 performance xd

You know we have a peak of 1% Mac users?

well vulkan also works on linux so i am fine

17:22

and maybe it also improves the windows situation

linux is another 1%

17:23

vulkan also works on windows

17:23

xD

src/engine/client/backend/vulkan/backend_vulkan.cpp:16:10: fatal error: 'vulkan/vulkan.h' file not found

can you somehow view what brew installed?

I'll just try brew install vulkan-headers

ah sounds good :D

Oops, now I have it twice on my system:

./Cellar/molten-vk/1.1.6/libexec/include/vulkan/vulkan.h
./Cellar/vulkan-headers/1.3.204/include/vulkan/vulkan.h

17:29

Got it built:

[2022-02-01 18:29:06][gfx]: Created Vulkan 1.1 context.
zsh: segmentation fault  ./DDNet

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Crashdump

20.78 KB

ok well i dunno if you have alot of custom stuff, but maybe a storage.cfg with add_path $DATADIR add_path $DATADIR add_path $CURRENTDIR can help Or do ./DDNet "dbg_gfx 3"

nothing more

oh such a short log

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maybe debug build tells you why?

Only another crash report:

22.5 KB

a shit mb

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#define CONF_BACKEND_VULKAN 1

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i only enabled it for linux oups xD

where?

just somewhere in backend_sdl.cpp on top

black window now

:/

Log:

16.08 KB

17:43

[mvk-info] vkCreateMacOSSurfaceMVK(): You are not calling this function from the main thread. NSView should only be accessed from the main thread. When using this function outside the main thread, consider passing the CAMetalLayer itself in VkMacOSSurfaceCreateInfoMVK::pView, instead of the NSView.

This stands out

oh yeah

should we switch the main and gpu thread on macos?

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that would probably also fix the crash when moving window around

why does macos love single threaded so much xD

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if that doesnt break anything sure, but actually vulkan is designed to be multithreaded anyway

17:45

maybe its just this single call

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not quite sure rn how to fix it easily :D

  void CGraphicsBackend_Threaded::RunBuffer(CCommandBuffer *pBuffer) { /*WaitForIdle(); std::unique_lock<std::mutex> Lock(m_BufferSwapMutex); m_pBuffer = pBuffer; m_BufferInProcess.store(true, std::memory_order_relaxed); m_BufferSwapCond.notify_all();*/ m_pProcessor->RunBuffer(pBuffer); }

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that makes it signel threaded i think

works, should I test the Multeasymap scenario?

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It crashes on close though

26.21 KB

sure, but i guess single threaded it has a hard time :D

17:55

yeah i didnt really work on cleanup yet :D

is it not possible to go thru the corner of two death tiles?

No, currently not: https://status.t2bot.io/

Zwelf: why is the bridge often so slow? is it controlled by you?

140 fps

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(Release build)

uff, let me check singlethreaded to compare

17:56

without dbg_gfx 3?

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well rip, i get 1300 fps xD

17:57

oh i see, thanks for fast reply :P

No, currently not: https://status.t2bot.io/

yes, without

ok RIP, thats extremly underwhelming

The graph looks weird, it's jumping between 4000 and 0 fps

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mhh thats indeed strange

i wonder if thats a problem with the threaded stuff

I can try removing the wait

ah sure

Ehm, also my system is at 100%, forgot I'm doing something at the same time. Have to stop that first

that would defs show that locking is insanly slow on macos for some reason

18:02

OHH OK XD

18:02

day saved :D

I don't know how well macOS deals with lots of processes competing

18:02

but the UI feels a bit laggy, similar to Linux

yeah but bro M1 has to beat this game without laggs xD

18:03

its expensive it must be good ™️

150 fps now, didn't help much

did you just delete everything in CGraphicsBackend_Threaded::WaitForIdle ?

no, only the crash bug specific waitforidle

but yeah strange that the graph looks so weird

MoltenVK graph

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18:06

OpenGL graph

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1000 fps would be realistic

is that vsync?

nope, I thought so too first

18:07

at least gfx_vsync is off, and my screen has 75hz, not 144

oh ok

120 hz is the internal screen though, so maybe something goes wrong

yeah really weird it caps perfectly to 144hz xD

18:08

on both screens

hm, maybe you're right. maybe moltenvk does that internally somehow

18:09

all menus show exactly 144 fps

https://github.com/KhronosGroup/MoltenVK/issues/1407 might be known issue

Framerate is always twice than the monitor refresh · Issue #1407 · ...

I completed both tutorials for https://vulkan-tutorial.com/ and https://vkguide.dev/ and their code makes my render loop twice as fast as the monitor refresh rate. If I'm at 60hz I get 120f...

https://github.com/KhronosGroup/MoltenVK/issues/1407

Framerate is always twice than the monitor refresh · Issue #1407 · ...

I completed both tutorials for https://vulkan-tutorial.com/ and https://vkguide.dev/ and their code makes my render loop twice as fast as the monitor refresh rate. If I'm at 60hz I get 120f...

18:10

ha, we found the same

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4651 add tune-lock tile

a new tune tile that doesnt work as a zone but as one of the power up tiles that give a tee a property after they have moved through it, as i understand it cant be too hard to add because all of the hard stuff is already made. (tunes already exist & tuned tees are predicted now) as a mapper i can honestly tell that this would be a massive gamechanger. there are countless possibilities.

https://github.com/KhronosGroup/MoltenVK/issues/1407 might be known issue

Framerate is always twice than the monitor refresh · Issue #1407 · ...

I completed both tutorials for https://vulkan-tutorial.com/ and https://vkguide.dev/ and their code makes my render loop twice as fast as the monitor refresh rate. If I'm at 60hz I get 120f...

18:13

(bridge delay)

18:14

but i guess i'll still finish the vulkan renderer, ryo and me are just too big vulkan fans xd

18:14

and might be a better solution to #4600

18:14

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4600

Allow different opengl32.dlls on windows by Jupeyy · Pull Request #...

this will add support to load different opengl32.dll's to ultimatily add support for wrappers like d3d12 or software renderers without breaking normal opengl execution. We would need to shi...

yeah, nice. and let's see again when that bug is fixed

@deen: btw have you tried in fullscreen too? does that even work? xdmaybe it is the compositor

linux 1% but with the most dev support in ddnet greenthing

greenthing

18:58

does the mac m1 come with some kind of gpu?

18:58

or is it integrated

everything is one one die

18:59

the SSD the RAM

18:59

everything xD

18:59

thats the whole point of that thing

ah lol

18:59

but i guess its not that good for gaming

from benchmark sources around in the internet, it should atleast beat my desktop pc

19:00

so that's quite good

19:00

but the price is the biggest problem

19:00

for that price u get a rtx 3090 xd

ur desktop pc with the vega gpu?

yeah

wat

but vega is also 14nm, it's dated

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i mean its just marketing value, but it seems like everytime the nm changes, there is like 15% more single core perf and like 20-30% more gpu perf

The average gaming FPS of Radeon Pro Vega 64 in Fortnite is 4% more, than Apple M1 8 Core GPU.

19:02

xd

19:03

thats insane tho

19:03

that a igpu is this good

yeah, hardware generally exploded the last years

the ssd is not on the same die

i mean rtx 3060 is faster than like rtx 2080 ti xD

ye

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but i cant buy any modern gpu

@Ryozuki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2HKm6B9EsY

RTX 2080 Ti Owners in 2022

thanks to crypto bros

same with fullscreen

its a meme

19:04

@deen: ok too bad :D

19:05

i'd love to know how fast it is xd

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but the price is the biggest problem

the screen is phenomal btw. I wanted my external screen to be similar and would have to pay ~5000 € for that

wow why that?

miniled, 220 ppi

19:06

just looks so much nicer

i see, but i guess an external monitor isnt even that small is it? xd but i only care about input delay anyway

I noticed I don't care much about input delay after a certain level, also barely notice the difference between 75 and 144 hz, only when I look closely. But maybe it's because I don't game enough

yeah xd

i think u can notice a lot up to 120hz

19:08

alteast i do

i even think 165 sucks against 240hz

but my old TV as screen had horrible delay, 50-100 ms, that felt like being on a remote server

240hz sounds crazy given that most games dont pass 100 fps

bro I AM crazy

what i want is firefox to fix their shit

19:09

if u have 2 browsers

19:09

and one is on a 60hz screen

19:09

the other on 144hz is fps locked

19:09

(on linux i3)

i manually set the FPS in firefox

19:09

bcs for me it capped to 60fps, very annoying

how?

19:10

it caps to 60fps for me too

19:10

when i have a tab on the 60hz display

19:10

(for all tabs)

i just searched and found something on reddit, maybe i'll find it

feelsbadman

19:11

ddnet in 2022: Vulkan render and migration to postgresql

19:11

greenthing

why there is a bot tag

19:11

next to ur name

i AM a bot

cuz he is on matrix

19:12

its a bridge bot

layout.frame_rate

19:12

dunno if there were more configs

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19:15

funny term

19:15

what is ddnet's bus factor?

19:15

monkalaugh

19:16

The term was first applied to software development, where a team member might create critical components by crafting code that performs well, but which also is unavailable to other team members, such as work that was undocumented, never shared, encrypted, obfuscated or not published. Thus a key component would be effectively lost as a direct consequence of the absence of that team member, making the member key. If this component was key to the project's advancement, the project would stall.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30163983

ashvardanian

MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

19:27

lol

It's a good time for DB startups

20:13

Also, I only just realized SAP's MaxDB is written by the same guy who made MySQL and MariaDB (all named after his children Max, My and Maria)

interesting fun fact indeed, who names their kid My tho xd

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i thought it's litteraly "my sql"

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4652 put demos in folders sorted by month or day

i have over 10.000 auto demos which leads to opening the folder ingame taking several seconds. 42 GB of demos xd

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Jupstar ✪: is convicted botter (@Kaan)

next to ur name

so are you chillerdragon

xd sure chillerbot.png is lyfe

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