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Between 2022-01-10 00:00:00Z and 2022-01-11 00:00:00Z
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Souly
there was earlier but admins disabled it
Soultroll nouis
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hi i'm brazilian and i would like to ask you if you can make a multimapeasy for people who are argentina to leave it organized, I understand that's it, thank you.
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segregation? LOL
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why is the website dead when i click on a map (edited)
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what do you mean by dead?
06:58
also what map? edit: nevermind (edited)
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~D I S K~雪
hi i'm brazilian and i would like to ask you if you can make a multimapeasy for people who are argentina to leave it organized, I understand that's it, thank you.
but multeasymap is easy
07:06
why is BLOCKER
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how do i load after saving
07:32
it says i hab a save 1 min ago
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@the.noyb /load <code>
07:34
if you forgot the code then you can check ddnet saves text file in config directory
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Souly
if you forgot the code then you can check ddnet saves text file in config directory
ok
07:41
ty
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Souly
if you forgot the code then you can check ddnet saves text file in config directory
07:51
wha
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it's in\Teeworlds\ddnet-saves.txt
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\AppData\Roaming\Teeworlds\ (Didn't look at image greenthing ) (edited)
greenthing 1
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found it
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@Skeith troll
heheh 1
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murpi
also what map? edit: nevermind (edited)
sorry, to the moon and nemesis
08:52
and many more
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what's a crazy shotgun?
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I think that is just the shotgun bullet that flies around
10:17
is stopper tile relevant for map info?
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for the sorting?
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are you talking about the ddnet_properties program to provide the data for the sorting?
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nah, just talking about map info on ddnet's website
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yes, I think he means the ones visible on website now
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the tiles in there were chosen quite arbitrarily, I myself could imagine people searching for stoppers ^^
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i see. in my mind, they wouldn't that's why i asked ahah
10:23
but then, how would you filter maps like bit2
10:23
from that
10:27
monkaS
10:27
why does a map from 2021-07-04 15:00 uses the outdated hookthrough
greenthing 1
10:30
looks like this pages could do some improvements
10:30
ill look into it later xd
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stopper tags are useless when stoppers aren't within gameplay of the map
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yeah, should make them flow over
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like on bit2
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how is there an older map with telegun if the telegun update came with pharice 2? or am I remembering wrong😅
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live freeze should not be a new tile, imo. i think you could easily do this with tunes too anyway
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Ryozuki
why does a map from 2021-07-04 15:00 uses the outdated hookthrough
if you sort by old hookthrough it seems like almost every map has it somehow
10:52
even 2022
10:56
https://ddnet.tw/tiles/TELEINEVIL/ maps with evil teleport doesnt show anything,not sure what evil tele is supposed to be
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@Patiga Is there something wrong? ^
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tele is not in there rn
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and telegun and old hookthrough?
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should be in
11:11
ah
11:11
but i grouped new hookthrough with old one
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 11:11:21Z
who tested it to approve?
11:11
or is it automatic?
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whats teleinevil?
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ah, and I just figured out that I handled the switch tiles wrong, I misunderstood that part of libtw2
11:12
red tele in
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ah, so it's basically all hookthrough
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 11:14:16Z
@deen there is a problem with how hookthru is displayed, outdated hookthru should be up, when there is the old hookthru only, maybe it doesn't detect the block behind it so it counts as old one
11:14
no hit.png xd
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thanks, fixed
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Meekrioz
OOOO
troll
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 12:33:56Z
justatest
12:34
back in 2014
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skins today are handled differently, they require less resources since not all are loaded into ram. though I'm not sure if they also get dropped again if they are not used anymore, probably not
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 12:53:11Z
idk how pnglib will work
12:53
but hopefully it'll run smoothly with high quality skins, cuz currently I've tested it with 8GB ram, and well... 10 seconds loading time ain't promising (edited)
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depends on the resolution
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 12:56:39Z
4k res justatest
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@Cellegen | HU justatest
12:57
i feel like having just double the standard should be enough
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 12:57:58Z
Yeah, I think I'll give only the HD version of skins to ddnet and the rest (4k images + svgs) to the Teeskins Database
12:58
This way we won't have compromises about using that high quality
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Cellegen | HU
but hopefully it'll run smoothly with high quality skins, cuz currently I've tested it with 8GB ram, and well... 10 seconds loading time ain't promising (edited)
loading time is not affected by ram but by your HDD or ssd
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:10:46Z
So like, is it really okay to use 4k skins still?
13:10
even if for example you have 100 of them
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why would u waste so much disk space
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:11:35Z
Well this is how many skins I've found inside the client without any touches, so I plan on reworking all of them
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@Cellegen | HU all the skins you have locally are loaded on client startup afaik. the skins from the database are the ones that only get loaded if a tee uses them
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:12:16Z
Yeah I know that, but you have to consider that some aren't going to use that option or won't know about that option
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which option?
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:12:45Z
With that said, all of the skins should've been included in the first place
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most use the option without knowing it
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:12:54Z
the download skins (edited)
13:13
inside Tee Tab (edited)
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well a new player will use that option without knowing it. if that new player is curious about how to use a skin themselves which they can't find in the tee tab, they will ask another player who will probably direct them to the database
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Patiga
well a new player will use that option without knowing it. if that new player is curious about how to use a skin themselves which they can't find in the tee tab, they will ask another player who will probably direct them to the database
Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:14:34Z
well a new player will use that option without knowing it. -> that's just bad game design tbh
13:14
justatest
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yes that is very confusing, but a very different point
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:15:01Z
yeah
13:15
Regardless... people want a bit of change in tee design, maybe they got bored out of looking at a lower resolution
13:15
They voted for it to be better looking
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then you should create a different database with higher-res skins and tell them to use your database link
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:16:32Z
Download and share many Teeworlds skins for version 0.6. Skins are used to change your appearance in-game. Choose your look the way it suits you and easily switch styles back and forth.
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or find someone who will host that data base for you
13:17
can you use that url in the client?
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:17:21Z
I guess...
13:17
but we have a HOW-TO on how to implement all tee skins onto ddnet to be able to see them: https://skins.tw/how-to/ddnet-integration
This tutorial will show you how to integrate Teeskins Teeworlds database into DDNet.
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(not like download all of the skins, this will be available later on.)
13:18
This includes: DDNet's skin db and some extra we found or we got from the community, making it the biggest skin database (edited)
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then congrats, that link is how you should integrate skin databases for players to use
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:19:49Z
sort of xd
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and it won't drain your resources like copying over all skins would
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:20:00Z
that is true tho
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it doesn't replace the downloaded skins in ddnet folder right?
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:20:25Z
nope, it doesn't even touch your local space
13:20
it just uses the skins the people use and it's identical from the database
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that makes it bad because people have to either replace files or remove them
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:21:01Z
Yeah, they want to manually download them
13:21
but I want it to make, eh legally achievable
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someone once suggested to add skin download quality feature to ddnet database
13:21
would be nice
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:21:49Z
like, different quality? (HD skins - LQ skins)?
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ye i guess
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ah this is confusing, downloadedskins is like downloadedmaps just without checksums, so duplicate names can't be resolved :/. (probably because the clients also just send the skin name)
13:24
so I guess you would need to wipe your downloadedskins folder to properly change your database
13:24
but I'm not sure if I fully understand that yet
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Patiga
so I guess you would need to wipe your downloadedskins folder to properly change your database
Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 13:25:27Z
That is an issue we try to work on in our db, replacing names like that wouldn't cut it frankly
13:26
And people don't even want to name them properly angry1
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Cellegen | HU
That is an issue we try to work on in our db, replacing names like that wouldn't cut it frankly
Already had an interesting talk with Nexus, about using discriminators. So for example you can use Greyfox#1123 or Geyfox#1493. You dont break the current skinsystem & its compatible with older versions 🙂
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 14:28:05Z
Well that's good news
14:28
But now current issue is, what if we upload Assets which are unknown to us, but then the claimer might sue us, cuz we uploaded it elsewhere?
14:28
under the fair use we have
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Use ToS & Disclaimers 🙂
14:29
This is not a technical issue, its more about law. But thats up to you, not any implementation
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 14:34:58Z
About tos, it's okay for the majority of skins, since it was approved by DDNet and Teeworlds generally, but the ones that hasn't been posted and not being affected by fair use (that means not uploaded anywhere) can potentially harm us
14:35
thonk we have accounts to attach to each Asset that has been uploaded with an Author name in them
14:36
and we want to have most of the Assets' author names (that we uploaded) that has no watermarks in them, if it turns out that we have a false information in hand (maybe multiple) do we get in trouble for it?
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doubt someone would sue u
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 15:05:38Z
If there were any examples of suing people for using skins without their permission, I would like to see them (edited)
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2022-01-10 16:37:25Z
yo how do you guys say "to russian comrades" in russian
16:37
or for
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Cellegen | HU
If there were any examples of suing people for using skins without their permission, I would like to see them (edited)
In general, the first option you have is to remove the respective skin if there is any legal problem ( atleast in europe ). Just use disclaimers & tos, so you should be fine.
16:39
If you run non-profit, there should be no problem at all. But if you run with profit ( e.g. commercials or ads ) big companies tend to go by law.
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 16:39:36Z
I see.
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Cellegen | HU
If there were any examples of suing people for using skins without their permission, I would like to see them (edited)
Tee skin NFTs?
16:59
lol
17:05
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How?
17:15
The favorite server flag is default
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old player
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)))
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We didn't record location in the beginning
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its favorite not starting serv
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because he probably didnt play in years
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maybe
17:21
thats sad(
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how to use an unused number
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(layer tele)
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if I understood u correctly
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the.noyb
Tee skin NFTs?
Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 19:23:41Z
justatest
19:24
I'm afraid that is impossible without a lawsuit against us
19:24
and idk how an nft should be represented with our Assets
19:24
so that's that :v
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the idea of an nft tee skin makes 0 sense imo anyway it's a FOSS game and nobody will see it on you unless they have it or its in a skin database, so like whats the point
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Hi have how some modarator enter in 177.54.148.94:8306 multyeasymap
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I need o talk in my pv to
19:36
If have how pls send me a msg
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When do points update?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-01-10 20:07:10Z
Once per hour
20:07
On website
20:07
Ingame instantly
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I'm 10k on website and 9958 in game
20:08
Got 10k hours ago
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-01-10 20:08:19Z
pepe
20:08
sometimes theres a difference between ingame and website points for a longer time
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hi Konsti im fan
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-01-10 20:09:02Z
hi Lousy im noby
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-01-10 20:12:29Z
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Cellegen | HU 2022-01-10 21:17:28Z
Is ddrace network on steam a precision platformer?
21:17
cannot find it on that category
21:47
at least I entered it as one of the categories, no idea what steam then does with them
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