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Between 2021-12-06 00:00:00Z and 2021-12-07 00:00:00Z
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Anime.pdf 2021-12-06 01:27:14Z
they will
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@ReiTW am i right?troll
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and btw blockworlds devs wont be happy if i publish a block mod based on theirs
fokkonaut 2021-12-06 08:08:20Z
then why you do it?
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ReD 2021-12-06 09:12:37Z
1.12745e+37837 fishies after 1 million days :D
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Cøke 2021-12-06 09:24:49Z
hi @ReD still waiting for ur invisible tiles remover 😄
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ReD 2021-12-06 09:25:57Z
its broken for shift values not divisible by 32, I have to repair 😅
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 13:06:50Z
drive is full
13:06
yikes its this time of the year again
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@heinrich5991: any plans to extend your teeworlds archive with demos too? :D
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 13:19:50Z
i swear last time i had some command to filter all demos with markers in it before deleting them
13:19
i forgot how -,.
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 13:24:50Z
memoization carrying todays day
13:25
maybe some math expert did it the math way
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 13:35:43Z
ok i ended up pressing down arrow in the demo browser for 5mins and then sort by marker :D
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 15:58:17Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
3cb9280 Add rank proposal - def-
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 16:03:37Z
ooh
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 16:03:59Z
do u even html ryo?
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 16:04:06Z
?
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 16:04:16Z
xd
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just casual front
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 16:04:30Z
do u even <insert random thing> chiller?
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xd
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 16:04:41Z
justatest 3
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 16:04:52Z
:p
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 16:06:33Z
justatest 3
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 16:06:37Z
i hereby accept the proposal
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greenthing
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deen 2021-12-06 16:07:17Z
😄 I hope I finally found a good solution, tinkered around too long with this
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 16:07:28Z
i like it
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specially the bonus for 1st
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makes lot of sense
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deen 2021-12-06 16:07:49Z
Was not that easy to keep all of the motivations, but should work now
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well, except the worst rank matters when there are 10 or fewer ranks on a map
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And a big disadvantage is that the calculation is so hard now that people won't do it in their head
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 16:08:38Z
is this applied to the website?
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deen 2021-12-06 16:08:44Z
yes, that's the plan
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for https://ddnet.tw/ranks/
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 16:09:14Z
i mean if its live r n
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deen 2021-12-06 16:09:25Z
no, I did all calculations by hand so far
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wanted to get some feedback before I waste time implementing
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 16:09:59Z
it would have been cooler if u render the math with latex or smth
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we got it like this on unique xd
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deen 2021-12-06 16:10:51Z
oh, what's that from?
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 16:10:59Z
timakro invented it
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https://uniqueclan.net/ranks
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deen 2021-12-06 16:11:00Z
that's quite similar to what I came up with except you have fixed lambda 😄
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even with the floor and 100
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 16:11:26Z
ye xD
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 16:18:49Z
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cheeser0613 2021-12-06 16:20:00Z
@deen so new calculation doesnt care whats your rank? even youre teamrank30 but as long as the time is very close then youll get high team points?
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deen 2021-12-06 16:20:06Z
yes
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should maybe rename it to speed points
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 16:21:00Z
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cheeser0613 2021-12-06 16:21:38Z
hmm, then i think it solve the problem that people changing team combination and other player cant fit in top 10
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deen 2021-12-06 16:21:46Z
not entirely
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but it removes the main motivation for top racers to spam the top 10
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because by doing so, they hurt their own speed points
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ah, you mean not just renaming same players, but different combinations, right
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cheeser0613 2021-12-06 16:22:46Z
i think this need more example, hard to notify this from the calculation
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deen 2021-12-06 16:22:46Z
yes, that works a bit better then
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 16:48:28Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
5f9dbdc Add Springlobe 3 example - def-
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 17:12:38Z
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 17:29:59Z
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[ddnet/ddnet-discordbot] Pull request opened: #26 Publish #map-releases automatically
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 17:46:55Z
@snail say bye to ur job
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 17:47:08Z
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[ddnet/ddnet-discordbot] Pull request closed: #26 Publish #map-releases automatically
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[ddnet-discordbot:master] 2 new commits
b94c9bf Publish #map-releases automatically - def- 2523dfb Merge pull request #26 from def-/pr-map-releases-publish - def-
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snail 2021-12-06 18:27:30Z
justatest
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fokkonaut 2021-12-06 18:45:52Z
Since 15.6 i am getting a weird bug with mouse movement in ddnet sometimes, it is like an "invisible border", that i cant pass sometimes. its most clear when being in spectator/pause. if i move my mouse to the right for example, at some point it just gets stuck even though i continue to move right at a relatively medium amount of speed. My guess it its connected to Jupeyys mouse input pr.
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I have experienced this bug now for the third time, only a client restart helps and i have all three times now checked whether its really nothing with my setup/mouse. on desktop it all works.
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Not too easy to spot but i think it works
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 19:00:13Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4422 Console output does not work with Git Bash
Git Bash is a bash emulator that comes with Git for Windows. It's useful for example because it supports displaying unicode characters. It works with upstream teeworlds but not with the ddnet tools (e.g. map_convert prints output in cmd and powershell but not in Git Bash).
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4423 Fix command line arguments with unicode on windows (without changing existing code)
#4380 plus the proposed changes. Closes #4369.

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  • [X] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [X] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://git...
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4380 Fix command line arguments with non-ASCII characters on Windows
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 19:17:32Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
3f637ae osx -> macos - def- 923474e Merge #4419 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4419 osx -> macos
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 19:29:39Z
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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
16c748c Swap: Don't spam-protect retrying with local messages only - def- f20443b fix command line arguments with unicode on windows - Robyt3 a46cc81 Merge #4421 #4423 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4421 Swap: Don't spam-protect retrying with local messages only
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4369 map_extract fails to open absolute path with Unicode
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4423 Fix command line arguments with unicode on windows (without changing existing code)
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:46:07Z
chillerdragon: my map archive?
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:46:24Z
heinrich.de
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"/maps/(maps
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:46:36Z
https://heinrich5991.de/maps/maps/
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:46:41Z
yes
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when /demos/dempos
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murpi 2021-12-06 19:47:11Z
cuz teehistorian :P
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:47:21Z
I don't see a point of saving individual demos
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:47:28Z
user comntributiosn from non ddnet servers
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they can be feed into some ML projects
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why collect maps?
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heinrich5991
I don't see a point of saving individual demos
Cellegen | HU 2021-12-06 19:47:57Z
We don't have a review system, like in Trackmania multiplayer
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:48:00Z
because other people want to host them
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:48:19Z
maybe other people want to watch them?
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:48:33Z
idk, I haven't heard that wish yet
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:48:40Z
ok me neither
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fair
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Cellegen | HU 2021-12-06 19:48:41Z
I always wondered when can I watch r1 runs, to get the map easier
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but it's me only :v
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:48:47Z
yea maps are more useful i guess
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:48:50Z
there were map archives before mine, I just copied what they did
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:49:10Z
probably a waste of space
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alone 80gigs a year from my side
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:50:20Z
have you tried compressing them with zstd?
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:50:38Z
why compress?
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compressed demos cant be viewed
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do you compress your maps?
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:51:08Z
no, because they don't take much space
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if they did, I would probably use a compressing file system
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like I do for teehistorian
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:51:38Z
i just sorted out the 10secs of good moments and deleted the rest. Which hurt a bit I would have preferred to move them to some free hosting like heinrich.de xd
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can you access a compressed file?
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interesting
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:52:13Z
in a compressing file system, the file is transparently compressed
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:52:17Z
i should look into it for my hentai collection
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:52:18Z
you can access it like a normal file
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:52:34Z
cool
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murpi 2021-12-06 19:52:43Z
👀
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:52:45Z
videos are usually already compressed files, those don't compress nicely
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:52:59Z
meh
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why not make tw demos already compressed?
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or teehistorian
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:55:23Z
teehistorian because it adds complexity
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probably the same for demos
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:56:01Z
oke
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is that why rendering videos is so slow?
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because it recompresses them?
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if for example i concatinate two clips why do so much computation
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 19:57:28Z
there's probably away to concatenate videos without reencoding
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 19:58:31Z
yea sure but generic video editing software does take its time for this job
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even first ffmpeg command i found took some time
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 20:00:27Z
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49371422/how-to-merge-two-videos-without-re-encoding
How to Merge two videos without re-encoding
I am trying to Merge two video without re-encoding them. Currently i use a approach which is too much time consuming and resource as well. I just want to merge without re-encoding them. Currently ...
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:01:12Z
ok nice time to auto fetch all clips from twitch and be the first to upload a highlight compilation
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brb getting rich
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:01:20Z
mkv > mp4 change my mind
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 20:01:35Z
mkv and mp4 are just container formats, I thought
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:01:37Z
mp4 > mkv change my mind
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:01:47Z
mkv supports multi channel iirc
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 20:01:49Z
i.e. they don't say a lot about their contents
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what does "multi channel" mean?
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:02:03Z
but no player supports mkv
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 20:02:12Z
mpv and vlc support them
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:02:14Z
they support it
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:02:28Z
vlc even support tw demos
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:02:30Z
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mkv > better
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:02:46Z
but like your average electron app or browser handles mp4 better than mkv
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i encode mkv to mp4 on a daily basis
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:02:56Z
mkv allows multiple audio tracks
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which mp4 doesnt
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
louis 2021-12-06 20:03:01Z
this is just an obs warning
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:03:02Z
iirc
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ZombieToad 2021-12-06 20:03:12Z
AV1 > H.265
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louis 2021-12-06 20:03:15Z
u habe to put mkv into other file endings before u can watch tho
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louis
this is just an obs warning
Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:03:23Z
the warning is due to mp4 restrictions u nobo
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louis
u habe to put mkv into other file endings before u can watch tho
Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:03:40Z
no u dont lol
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all my anime is in mkv format
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the fansubs know whatsupp
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louis 2021-12-06 20:04:33Z
idk mp4 is more supported
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:04:41Z
maybe in 2008
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The Matroska Multimedia Container is a free and open container format, a file format that can hold an unlimited number of video, audio, picture, or subtitle tracks in one file.
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Matroska is similar in concept to other containers like AVI, MP4, or Advanced Systems Format (ASF), but is entirely open in specification, with implementations consisting mostly of open source software. Matroska file extensions are .mkv for video (which may include subtitles or audio), .mk3d for stereoscopic video, .mka for audio-only files, and .mks for subtitles only
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louis 2021-12-06 20:06:33Z
both are useful i guess
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:19:30Z
❯ echo "hello" >> /dev/full bash: echo: write error: No space left on device
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TIL
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xdd
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/full
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:19:56Z
lmao
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:20:15Z
a special file that always returns the error code ENOSPC (meaning "No space left on device") on writing, and provides an infinite number of zero bytes to any process that reads from it (similar to /dev/zero). This device is usually used when testing the behaviour of a program when it encounters a "disk full" error.
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:20:16Z
thats nice to make software not crash when disk is full
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for testing
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which no developer ever does
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:20:39Z
like ddnet
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😀
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:20:58Z
like linux
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:21:04Z
make the log file write to /dev/full
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i wonder what happens
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 20:21:33Z
nothing
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:21:36Z
:o
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heinrich5991 2021-12-06 20:21:38Z
ddnet ignores io erros left and right
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errors*
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:21:44Z
monkaS
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:33:08Z
https://dreamcult.xyz/
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this looks so cool
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NeXus 2021-12-06 20:44:56Z
https://github.com/accimeesterlin/nodemailer-examples/pull/22 lol didnt know griefing github projects is a thing 😄
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:45:40Z
@NeXus: ye rare but funny i collect a few here https://github.com/ChillerDragon/github-meta/issues/1
best issues and pullrequests · Issue #1 · ChillerDragon/github-meta
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:46:27Z
some links give 404
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rip
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NeXus 2021-12-06 20:46:31Z
oh nice idea 😄
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:46:47Z
u should have saved the archive links
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:46:58Z
hmm
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like some other archive site?
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external
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:47:12Z
https://archive.org/
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:47:28Z
idk i prefer native links
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but yea those links might die
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:47:36Z
but they dont exist bro
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https://github.com/thelinuxchoice/instashell/pull/69
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:47:52Z
ye
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:47:59Z
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this is gold
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:48:02Z
that one was funny i think
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:48:03Z
https://github.com/einaregilsson/Redirector/issues/223
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-12-06 20:48:14Z
iirc he replaced his name in credits and nothing else in the pr
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NeXus 2021-12-06 20:48:56Z
how did I miss the meme culture in github
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this is gold
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Ryozuki 2021-12-06 20:49:21Z
well its not frequent
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GitHub BOT 2021-12-06 22:34:58Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
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