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Between 2021-11-30 00:00:00Z and 2021-12-01 00:00:00Z

@heinrich5991 are you going to try for leaderboards again?

Weird question but can I commission a feature? Id be willing to pay someone's work on this.

if you want the feature to be on ddnet and not your private fork then the correct and best way to do this is:

08:00

Go to github and open a issue with the feature you want

08:00

then we can discuss if its good for ddnet or not

08:01

and then you can say you are willing to give money to whoever does it to get it faster

08:01

imho

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does the client has the ids of the projectile owners?

@ChillerDragon

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09:56

read the comments

09:57

this is probs form the m_Data field from ddnet projectiles?

but thats ddnet only?

09:57

i saw some vanilla based bot once that tracked nade owner ids

idk

09:58

maybe the bot used some heuristic e.g the closest player from the projectile when it spawned and saved that info

09:58

xd

yea possible because it also only worked when the nade was fired int the visible range. Guess ill go with heuristics too then.

10:01

smol legal disclaimer i am not building a bot for pvp modes or ddrace -.-

so you're building a race bot?

-.-

10:30

gotta get those speed nades right

10:30

nah im trying to track money entities owners for F-DDrace to know whos money i collected

10:31

not too fishy

chillerdragon: banned

yikes

u

Being bot is not cool

@fokkonaut: fyi m_Owner of projectiles is -1 for all projectiles on F-DDrace on ddnet is has the client ids. Do you mind setting that? Maybe even for money? c:

12:46

then i dont need some heuristic hax

I think he doesn't set it because he needs a prediction hack that requires extremely high velocity projectiles which confuse the ddnet client because we use velocity >512 to indicate extended projectiles

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12:47

oh that

12:47

ye i red that a bit here

12:47

hrmpf

12:47

money vel is clamped tho isnt it? :D

12:48

holy shit i got mac

12:48

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12:48

i did not expect that :D

idk, never played f-ddrace, he could send proper extended projectiles for things that don't need the prediction hack

yea never seen fast money

12:49

i think we even coded that together and clamped speed

12:49

when add coin texture to ddnet btw?

Nothing you see moves faster than 512 btw, 512 is really a fair bit of speed

Hi, Learath2! What's up? Looked ebuilds? Keep me informed. I'm interested

@Learath2: shotgun bug boosted tees do and thus their projectile trail

@Chīmupurei Oh, can you link them again please. I was busy with some real life stuff but I think I can take a look at them tonight

i think

12:50

idk how fast 512 is but i know sg bug is fast too

Chīmupurei

Hello. It would be nice if you created an overlay. If you didn't write ebuilds, I can suggest my own. What do you think? Sorry for necroposting

@Learath2

learath when will u finally quit real life and go full time tw?

Projectiles in tw don't inherit their owners velocity chiller

they do

12:51

when the player has a trail

Um, a trail?

yas

12:52

just ddnet mod things

Fwiw the projectiles trail their owner exactly because they don't inherit their owners velocity like real life projectiles

They move with the owner so they somewhat have its speed dont they?

Nope, think about it, if a tee moves sideways and shoots straight up the rocket has no sideways component

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12:55

can discord embedd mkv?

12:56

trail.mp4

yes

can discord embedd mkv?

discord pro

Well that's an f-ddrace thing, it literally is a trail of projectiles

thats what i said ;D

ddnet, ddrace and vanilla projectiles don't inherit any velocity from their owners

yes

unexploredtest

yes

Make sure the MKV Has the video encoded in VP8 or VP9 Has the audio in AAC, MP3 or Vorbis Rename the file from file.mkv to file.webm Bold is recommended codecs. I also recommend Handbrake for converting the video 3 seconds of google

shotgun bug boosted tees projectiles trail them for a different reason

ffmpeg -i foo.mkv bar.webm

12:59

0 sec of google

12:59

xd

lol

@Learath2: yea what ever i just assume that if a tee is fast due to shotgun bug the trail is too

13:00

anyways money shouldnt be

13:00

so pls fokko add ids c:

If I change the client version to 114514 When entering the game, will "XXX (playername) client version: '114514'" be said?

Well we don't display client versions in ddnet, but noby does in fng, so it'd be displayed there

13:24

Though a different version number is immediately sus, so people might think you are botting if you are also very good at the game

Great!

Learath2

Though a different version number is immediately sus, so people might think you are botting if you are also very good at the game

noby's server would ban user with sus number client immediately (edited)

13:32

monkalaugh

114514 nice number kek

kek

i use ddnet client version 5991

5991

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13:59

cant ban that

Learath2

I think he doesn't set it because he needs a prediction hack that requires extremely high velocity projectiles which confuse the ddnet client because we use velocity >512 to indicate extended projectiles

chillerdragon

i think we even coded that together and clamped speed

thats something whole different

@fokkonaut could you send projectiles that don't need the prediction hack as extended projectiles so chiller can be happy aswell?

Learath2

Nothing you see moves faster than 512 btw, 512 is really a fair bit of speed

It doesnt xd but yeah its the prediction hack

Learath2

@fokkonaut could you send projectiles that don't need the prediction hack as extended projectiles so chiller can be happy aswell?

I dont think so, but I think I saw a pr where it actually clamps the m_Owner to < MAX_CLIENTS

14:44

For bw or so

14:44

If that happens at the corrcet position my crash bug at least gets fixed

Learath2

@fokkonaut could you send projectiles that don't need the prediction hack as extended projectiles so chiller can be happy aswell?

I'll try later

Zoozing out is broken on the new client

14:57

when fix?

Broken>

14:58

Broken?*

When you zoom out enough it starts showing the scoreboard

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Ah, hm interesting that the scoreboard still has you in it :

15:00

@fokkonaut do you happen to know what we aren't snapping that causes the scoreboard to pop up?

Hemingway

When you zoom out enough it starts showing the scoreboard

Also @trml ^^

gameinfo

15:00

the one from gamecontroller

Hm isn't that snapped first? It shouldn't be dropped no matter how much is in view

I know, I saw the pr

15:01

I dont know about other stuff tho, let me check ddnet repo

I wonder if we should maybe add NETMSG_SNAP_MORE and let snaps be larger?

Learath2

Hm isn't that snapped first? It shouldn't be dropped no matter how much is in view

its definitely in there, weird

Or maybe be smarter about SnapNewItem returning NULL maybe a hierarchy of objects so we drop from least to most important as the snap gets larger

fokkonaut

its definitely in there, weird

I thought maybe the character itself was getting dropped, but it seems to be there in the scoreboard which gets the characters from the snap aswell

yea

15:04

I dont know on the fly right now

Np, trml can take a look when he is here, and I'll have a look later aswell

Hemingway

When you zoom out enough it starts showing the scoreboard

Thanks for the report

np

@Learath2

15:05

When I think about it

15:06

Character probably doesnt get snapped

15:06

Playerinfo will be tho

15:06

I cant see his ammo, means he is "dead"

15:06

Interesting would be what server version this is

15:07

Bcs characters should™ get snapped first

fokkonaut

Playerinfo will be tho

Ah, could be

Hemingway

When you zoom out enough it starts showing the scoreboard

Can you do a /info on the server quickly?

[17:07:29][chat]: DDraceNetwork Mod. Version: 0.6.4, 15.5.4 [17:07:29][chat]: Git revision hash: 82c7b20001b4e614 [17:07:29][chat]: Official site: DDNet.tw [17:07:29][chat]: For more info: /cmdlist [17:07:29][chat]: *** Or visit DDNet.tw

See

15:07

Its probably one of the broken versions

15:07

@Hemingway can u try same map on a 15.6.x server?

tell me an ip and i'll try it

most servers should be updated, check Serverinfo from the browser

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #4414 Zooming out can cause odd behaviour

!image If you zoom out too much this seems to happen. I think the snap gets too large and something gets dropped causing this. Not sure what, maybe the character. @trml you were the last one to look around the snap order, anything come to mind?

@Learath2 probably not

Ah, old version :/

tried it and it worked like it should

15:10

[17:09:19][chat]: DDraceNetwork Mod. Version: 0.6.4, 15.5.4 [17:09:19][chat]: Git revision hash: 82c7b20001b4e614 [17:09:19][chat]: Official site: DDNet.tw [17:09:19][chat]: For more info: /cmdlist [17:09:19][chat]: *** Or visit DDNet.tw

Lol?

15:11

Thats the same server version, @Hemingway can you try a 15.6.x server? :D

Um, are all official ddnet servers stuck at 15.5.4?

that's weird

15:11

it worked like normal on that server

Cant Imagine xD

Hemingway

it worked like normal on that server

Were you on the same map? Presumably this happens because of the map

different map

Try same map

15:12

on 15.6 server

Seems official servers are indeed on 82c7b20001b4e614

Didnt we update th yet?

15:14

them*

@deen um, is there a problem between master and 82c7b200 we are avoiding?

nice thanks babe c: (@fokkonaut)

I'll try later

gei

@Learath2: i use arch btw

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16:41

someone has this guys discord?

16:42

or mobile number :D

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16:48

or his snapchat?

16:48

when bridge #general ?

@Learath2 yea, want to try to get into global leaderboards again

16:49

although stating that intention is probably a bad idea in case I won't make it ^^

Learath2

@deen um, is there a problem between master and 82c7b200 we are avoiding?

sorry, my bad. I borked the server updates on ger1 for the non-asan version. fixing now

o/

deen

you could download both versions from ddnet.tw and compare the times to make sure

alright i just tried it out and the downloaded one takes way less time to load.

17:54

tried it releasecandidates instead of beta version on steam, slower loda time again, seems like it only happens on steam for me (edited)

Maybe Steam is doing something in the background, weird

Do u use Mac OS too?

@Learath2: i use arch btw

[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit

c39f41c SDL 2.0.18 - def-

[ddnet-libs:pr-sdl218] 1 new commit

c602375 SDL2 2.0.16 -> 2.0.18 (still with patches) - def-

20:19

[ddnet/ddnet-libs] New branch created: pr-sdl218

20:19

[ddnet/ddnet-libs] Pull request opened: #20 SDL2 2.0.16 -> 2.0.18 (still with patches)

20:20

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4414 Zooming out can cause odd behaviour

Nice Mac rice chiller

@deen many thanks for all the fixes you've been doing lately! :)

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