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Ertee :D

Since I like to post my new artworks there, here it is, first after 3 - 4 months of break feelsamazingman

very nice drawing :) 9/10

00:42

need bg to this

wait he drawing this on paper!?

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hussainx3

wait he drawing this on paper!?

She. Yes

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wow she have unique talent

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Smetanolub

also you must go to nvidia settings,and choose high-performance nvidia processor in software settings for teeworlds.exe

btw when i was trying do this

08:55

i discover i was play without Graphic card lol

and, still worked fine?

08:56

you mean you were using the integrated gpu of your intel cpu?

yes

08:57

need Definition of graphics card

Well, I'm playing with integrated gpu on all my devices, works fine

deen

Well, I'm playing with integrated gpu on all my devices, works fine

recording work good too?

09:03

i have rtx 3050 ti

idk what problem clearly i done Installed The graphics card but my laptop still use the one with cpu

never recorded

i reset it twice

deen

never recorded

sadly:( so we can't see your art skill in game?

hussainx3

idk what problem clearly i done Installed The graphics card but my laptop still use the one with cpu

anyway if anyone have advice tell me and i will back to see it after some days

09:15

this weeks we are have a lot tests sorry

09:16

one of them is the english, clearly i need study hard XD

then you need to search it in settings

hussainx3

wait he drawing this on paper!?

on salt

random moment

FunCity_2021-11-15_12-27-58.demo

991.33 KB

HMPIWD

random moment

i have to remove ur map from submit maps, its not even enough for the fun server, sorry

ok

its like a solo map with no startline with just 2 parts

I'm just novice mapper c;

no problem

10:32

just want to tell

10:32

if u wonder why is my map removed from submit maps

timing - 4:20

StrongMad_2021-11-15_15-15-14.demo

3.63 MB

13:56

random momentum

13:56

lol

13:56

sus

pls crop it and render (its all in the DDNet client), so it will be easier to watch for all of us

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This link doesn't work D:

oh (edited)

Just upload your video to discord directly

I can't

16:04

oh

16:04

i can

Can this skin added to database? Skin name: realBoy Creator name: tutawek

16:51

@Ravie

16:52

@louis

16:52

@Clefairy'

HMPIWD

@Clefairy'

Good evening, I'm on a trip right now I'm sorry that I can't test the skin

ok

@HMPIWD it has wrong resolution, missing parts and rather poor quality in general

ok

17:00

;c

and there's no need to ping all 3 of us

Ravie

@HMPIWD it has wrong resolution, missing parts and rather poor quality in general

it's 4k resolution

17:02

no?

exactly, the correct resolution is 256x128

oh

17:06

ok

17:06

;c (edited)

It's my Birthday

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Ravie

exactly, the correct resolution is 256x128

you cannot be serious

17:55

High Quality is supported inside the client, why decline it, because of the basic requirements?

HMPIWD

Can this skin added to database? Skin name: realBoy Creator name: tutawek

You can upload your Asset at https://skins.tw/ or Upload your Asset directly from the Teeworlds Data Discord, by following the instructions at the #deleted-channel page: discord.gg/NrKnBQd3cC

Teeskins: Teeworlds Skins Database

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Cellegen | HU

High Quality is supported inside the client, why decline it, because of the basic requirements?

currently the database only supports 256x128, even if it gets fixed I don't see why anything above 512x256 would be allowed since it would be just a waste

An appreciation of effort in their part to make high quality Assets should be considered, when comes to visual changes. Vanilla Teeworlds proved to be better with higher quality skins / Assets, and should the other Assets (gameskin, emoticons, particles, etc) follow the same path.

18:01

(well as long as somebody, like me already doing part of it.

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18:02

also the 256x128 limit should be fixed, no?

Cellegen | HU

also the 256x128 limit should be fixed, no?

it should, but then double of that would be a limit

18:06

I don't know why you'd want the skin texture to be as big as / bigger than your display when the tee itself is only a tiny area on your screen

i made a pull request to offer different quality downloads years ago, but it got ignored

ScReeNy

i made a pull request to offer different quality downloads years ago, but it got ignored

I guess that would add more complexity

18:15

KISS priniple

its not that complex to add optional files per record and add a download in high res button

18:17

would even do it myself, but i didnt get any feedback (edited)

Do it -> PR?

Well everything i have ever tried to do for ddnet has been crushed

18:18

but i might

I'm already doing a community vote on making high quality Assets for all available Teeworlds textures The majority of the community agreed on that project.

18:20

When the project's done, should I post it on #pr-3401-hud-visuals or no?

18:21

Or, at least tell murpi about it?

Github Issue should be good I guess

Alright.

I'd be glad to have a high quality version of graphics and skins, but it has to be consistent to look good, and we probably have to keep the current ones possible because some people are playing on potatoes with 128 MB RAM

So, the High Quality option inside the client would have a slight rework according to that, or should it be a separate option?

only a big troll like @noby would place a map on his server which makes demos totally useless

probably add a higher level to the current "High Quality"

for entities, it's just a different picture, for console and such won't be affected

Imagine hq skins

Boti.

Imagine hq skins

default skins in the client are already at double resolution

ᶰ°Konͧsti

only a big troll like @noby would place a map on his server which makes demos totally useless

Epilepsy warning

18:29

Ravie

default skins in the client are already at double resolution

Somehow still look shit

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-data-svg/tree/main/skins go export them in 8k, knock yourself out

that shit has like skins only

18:30

outdated af

cellegen the complainer

18:31

its not outdated if u would understand what he linked actually

Cellegen | HU

Somehow still look shit

you replied to my message about default skins

18:34

this skin is god

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Cellegen | HU

High Quality is supported inside the client, why decline it, because of the basic requirements?

4k skins makes no difference

18:38

compared to like 512x256

18:38

unless u play on 10x zoom in

or 8k screen

deen

or 8k screen

is there some way to test if 512x256 gets any upscaling on an 8k screen on default zoom?

check how large it is on your screen, in pixels, and calculate how large it would be on 8k

18:55

for the tee body I get 59 pixels in 2k (1920x1080), so should be 236 pixels in 8k

louis

4k skins makes no difference

And also the performance too, only loading time will suffer

18:56

fps performance and rendering is the same

it's also 59 pixels in the 256x128 default skin size, so fits perfectly for 2k, 512x256 required for 4k, 1024x512 for 8k (all in default resolution)

18:57

actually 64 pixels with the black outline, but still approximately right

honestly most people don't notice or care about a little amount of upscaling, and I don't think 8k displays are anywhere near common yet so 512x256 should be plenty

I also can't play in default zoom, always play on 7 instead of 10

yeah a lot of people play zoomed out but I don't think anyone plays zoomed in

Ravie

yeah a lot of people play zoomed out but I don't think anyone plays zoomed in

playing with zoom+10

Ravie

honestly most people don't notice or care about a little amount of upscaling, and I don't think 8k displays are anywhere near common yet so 512x256 should be plenty

So you say that SVG files are useless too cuz you can export it to any big size you want, but useless if it's not required to have such sizes (edited)

18:59

poor logic but okay.

Ravie

yeah a lot of people play zoomed out but I don't think anyone plays zoomed in

Have you seen gores players recently? pepedead

19:01

Also high quality assets are needed in roleplay / mmo mods in teeworlds, one of the reasons why we store high quality skins.

Cellegen | HU

Also high quality assets are needed in roleplay / mmo mods in teeworlds, one of the reasons why we store high quality skins.

there are roleplay/mmo mods in tw?

It is entirely upon ddnet dev's decision, whenever they want to accept HQ or not, but our database always welcomes it.

Cellegen | HU

Also high quality assets are needed in roleplay / mmo mods in teeworlds, one of the reasons why we store high quality skins.

as long as the textures aren't getting upscaled it really doesn't matter what resolution they are, so they should be as low as possible to not waste performance

Avolicious

there are roleplay/mmo mods in tw?

2 of them existed, Teeworlds Adventures, low budget MMORPG with 0.7 port too, but failed cuz of the developer's lack of motivation and currently developed MMOTee, a really well developed RPG with open source libraries to further increase developement

19:04

https://github.com/teeworldsCNFun/Teeworlds-MRPG

GitHub - teeworldsCNFun/Teeworlds-MRPG

Contribute to teeworldsCNFun/Teeworlds-MRPG development by creating an account on GitHub.

svgs are useful

19:05

as u can use them for media outside the game

19:05

like thumbnails, other graphics, etc

Ain't ddnet using SVGs

19:05

it uses only PNG

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19:06

I meant the client @Ravie

do you maybe know what program was used to make all assets in teeworlds and what format it works with?

Inkscape

19:08

Do you know how much SVGs were used to edit / publish skin over the 6 years?

19:09

Cuz I know that over 2500 Textures were PNGs in the end, let alone, Low Quality Assets

19:09

So it kinda makes no sense going for Vector art if you use it to make LQ PNG files anyways. (edited)

teeworlds only accepts PNG so you export SVG files as PNG with a fitting resolution

but why lq tho

19:09

19:10

there's no fitting resolution with camera zoom

19:10

only compression (edited)

ok I don't know what you're talking about

Good argument

19:11

No wonder you don't do shit on the database anyway.

Cellegen | HU

So it kinda makes no sense going for Vector art if you use it to make LQ PNG files anyways. (edited)

maybe cause vector art is easier to edit anyways

19:13

vector art isnt only just to make high resolution art but also an easy way to make graphics

louis

maybe cause vector art is easier to edit anyways

making teestyle with raster graphics is a nightmare, that's why

Yes, I agree that Vector art is the best for customisation and editing, but why use low quality textures for DDNet, whenever it is outdated for 6 years now?

19:13

I talk about everything, but skins

19:14

for 6 years, there were plenty of optimisations for both compression and texture rendering, the performance nowadays won't be hurt by the Assets we provide

19:14

including 4k

19:14

and if people really want to make 4k textures, then let them do it and don't decline it because of it.

some people make 4k textures because they don't understand why that's useless and wasteful, just like you monkalaugh

so that is why Teeworlds Data's community agreed on making high quality textures?

19:16

Ain't my decision, this was the community's idea

na high res is good but not necessarily for ingame stuff

Yes, for ingame, it is more likely to have less effect, but on the editor, it kinda would make sense to rework it just a little

19:19

maybe particles / emoticons could have higher quality

19:20

But then, I'll do it regardless, and if people are interested in them, then we'll keep it on our Database. Do whatever you want on DDNet's DB

have fun vectorizing all teeworlds assets twinbop

I ain't using Vector Art.

19:22

I'll only post the results

im playing on default zooz 4 monkalaugh

am i the only one play drag with zoom in? (and also notice lq problem long time ago)

ᶰ°Konͧsti

im playing on default zooz 4 monkalaugh

max zooz

HUGE zooz

this entire conversation is irrelevant when u consider the possibility of adding SVG support (edited)

19:46

there must be an SDL SVG library

which wont happen

why not

source: jupstar

ok but why Jupstar

he is the graphics guy

can't @ no discord

i think u need to implement a svg renderer andf its prob not perfomant