DDraceNetwork - developer

why does refreshing the server list sometimes do nothing since the update? (edited)

@deen https://ddnet.tw/ (edited)

09:44

https://ddnet.tw/ranks/usa/ (edited)

Sorry, fixed

thx deen

lmao

@Iza what do you mean by "nothing"? you see no changes?

12:04

it's always re-downloading the list from the master server, but it doesn't throw away the old one until the new one arrives

heinrich5991

@Iza what do you mean by "nothing"? you see no changes?

it kept the server list as it was like 5 minutes ago and didnt refresh when i pressed f5

apparently master1 was down today

12:24

maybe that was the problem

12:27

although it should™ fallback to master2 in this case

The UX with the silent refresh isn't great. Errors should result in some visible change. Refreshes should be more obvious

the error should be displayed somewhere, yes

12:28

refreshes more obvious, idk

Learath2

The UX with the silent refresh isn't great. Errors should result in some visible change. Refreshes should be more obvious

yea

(I think that the UX with silent refresh is very much better than what we had before, simply reverting would decrease UX in the common case, I think)

idk i had zero issues the way it was before

for some people, refreshing takes a long time, thus they didn't like pressing the refresh button

12:36

I also didn't like that it'd throw away the old list before it was sure it could get a new one

but thats visual feedback and visual feedback is important in stuff like that

note that in your case you couldn't have joined any servers anymore after refreshing

12:37

because they'd be all gone

12:37

(I'm all for a better error display, see abvoe)

I think I agree with izanagi there. The refresh making the page disappear for a second is very common

I'm just saying that I think the state we had before was worse

Anyway, proper ux for the current version is even better

I think you need to say more why "common" is good

12:39

do you mean that users expect it?

today when i refreshed and the master was down, i didnt see that it didnt refreshed

12:41

it shouldnt be like that

yes

12:42

would you rather have had the server list deleted?

what do you mean by that?

previously, the way you'd see the error was that you couldn't see a server list anymore

yea thats way better

ok ^^

at least i didnt have any issues with that

I'd enjoy still being able to join servers

@Learath2: i copied those bois into ddnet and prefixed NETMSGTYPE_.. with protocol7:: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/f35da54b6f2c5f9fd4bbd4559f887ccf8f8cc526/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L307-L330but it does not seem to ship it to the 0.7 client. Any ideas?

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12:46

@heinrich5991: when wireshark dissector update? :)last commit 7 months ago :c

what do you need? 0.7 support? ^^

heinrich5991

do you mean that users expect it?

Yep

12:48

but id take anything

(common per se isn't a good argument, but user expectation is one)

0.6 isnt fully covered is it? like snap data

ah yes

@Learath2: ? :c