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Between 2021-11-09 00:00:00Z and 2021-11-10 00:00:00Z
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justatest what did those macros do
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weberrich
was the only map i played yesterday and today and will never touch it again probably
In a few tries you gonna be able to finish it in like 15 minutes
01:03
Confidence through experience needed on this map
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ZombieToad
on my server i use highest verification level
Secure who? You're literally putting all community members' phone numbers in danger giving them off that freely to discord
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thats disgusting
01:11
what are these macros
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Imo, all automation is cheat
01:28
bind to rocket vertically is cheat as well
01:28
bind to aim perfect at 45° is
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dummy hammerfly is cheat then i guess
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yup it is
01:29
especially when you see Just Fly r1
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DDraceNetwork client is cheat client on DDraceNetwork servers then
01:30
uh oh we're all banned
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ds273
dummy hammerfly is cheat then i guess
nah since its just one input
01:39
that does one thing
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dummy hammerfly is literally a macro built into ddnet client though, by like every definition it aimbots at the player and fires (and attempts to switch to hammer) repeatedly at a specific interval
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its not a cheat tho
01:42
since its native
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i know it's allowed, that's why it's in the official ddnet client but its existence still blurs the macro rule thing cause like... are all uses of it that are possible in unmodded official ddnet client allowed? if not, where's the line drawn?
01:46
tho tbh the original reason i said that was just taking the other guy's claims to their logical conclusion
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all dummy commands are macros, just make plant's ranks on a differnet category and then it's fine
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with macros they probably meant third party macros
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anyways, let my boy @iParano get all his just fly r1 that he deserves
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we meant cheat clients or programs that fully automate gameplay (such as AHK scripts) that give you an advantage over other players. (edited)
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e.g remapping keys, executing commands via bind/complex configs in one input is fine, but automating things such as moving left, right, jump or hooking/shooting in a certain pattern, which are normally not possible without human input, is not. fwiw that does include rapidfire macros or autoclickers (edited)
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so no replay bot
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murpi
e.g remapping keys, executing commands via bind/complex configs in one input is fine, but automating things such as moving left, right, jump or hooking/shooting in a certain pattern, which are normally not possible without human input, is not. fwiw that does include rapidfire macros or autoclickers (edited)
There is firespam.cfg well it's useless but autoclicker bind
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louis
justatest what did those macros do
let you do ez freezejump by closing your eyes
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@brednbudder 🙂
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 06:32:25Z
How do u get advantages from macros
06:33
Are binds also macros
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he means replay bot
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 06:36:33Z
ur replay bot
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ur afksti
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 06:36:51Z
noimnot
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yes you are on fng
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 06:36:59Z
No
06:37
lol
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always
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 06:37:09Z
not now
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why not now
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 06:37:27Z
i turned off pc
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phonesti
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 06:37:45Z
ur
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im not on phone
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 06:37:58Z
cuz nobo
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 06:38:21Z
actroll
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wrong name
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 06:38:40Z
its correct
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ᶰ°Konͧsti
How do u get advantages from macros
i.e perform 100% kill edge
06:58
perfect timing on some mechanics
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Can someone tell me where i can get the spaceball Mod ? Want to make an Lan Server
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@Rockus omg bro haha hope i could get it back on day ahahha
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snail
perfect timing on some mechanics
ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 08:05:52Z
can do anything of this with binds and coordinates, why would anyone use trollchots for this
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what do you mean by coordinates
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debug mode
08:10
like you could have a macro that would do a perfect max height double rocket from pressing one key
08:10
thats the stuff this aims to prevent as i understand it
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yeah thats replay bot
08:18
not possible using regular in game binds and looking at the debug menu coordinates
08:18
maybe i'm dumb tho
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ᶰ°Konͧsti
can do anything of this with binds and coordinates, why would anyone use trollchots for this
how do u kill edge with binds
08:27
(or press a movement key for exactly 0.01 sec in order to adjust perfectly for a tower for instance)
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imagine using makrosbluestripe
09:24
bluestripebluestripebluestripe
09:24
bluestripe
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 09:47:01Z
bluestripe bluestripe bluestripe bluestripe bluestripe
09:47
bluestripe
09:59
bluestripe bluestripe bluestripe bluestripe bluestripe
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I think Kamillentee found a way to do a one tick button press with a bind
10:11
and he was the first one ever to do it
10:11
in 2017
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So can I use a macro for that or only the bind?
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the wording in #announcements is confusing but any third program tool that does anything more than just remapping a key is forbidden
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Anything you can do ingame is fine, you can also bind multiple actions to a single key in-client
10:29
but automatic timing is not possible in-client and it can make parts much easier, so it's considered cheating
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Third Party Programm? Doesnt stop me with my physical 1ms clicker B) (edited)
10:34
konsti built an IRL bot with a coin and duct tape to cheat in minecraft and said its legit coz its not using any actual software justatest
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definitly legit
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is touchpad scroll an autoclicker?
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cant u just exec and hold any key for spamm
10:39
well not for any input nvm
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snail
konsti built an IRL bot with a coin and duct tape to cheat in minecraft and said its legit coz its not using any actual software justatest
i remember this lol
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Ravie
is touchpad scroll an autoclicker?
whats the difference to normal scrolling tho
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he was also cheating fishing
10:40
u rly cant host a minecraft server without any stupid player being a smartass
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ScReeNy
cant u just exec and hold any key for spamm
stops working when u move
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ah cool
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ScReeNy
whats the difference to normal scrolling tho
laptop scroll sends a bunch of rapid inputs and it's more a software thing
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Ryozuki
he was also cheating fishing
ye the IRL bot was for fishing all night xd
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How did he do it tho?
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a afk fish farm
10:41
u just had to hold the fish key
10:41
right click
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but he also had casually found a stack of diamonds real fast iirc
10:42
think_bot
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But is the 0° 45° 90° bind also considered cheating or what is going on?
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 10:49:51Z
any bind that is provided intentionally by the official client won't be cheating
10:50
DDNet client has a multitude of commands and settings that can be bound to nearly any key or mouse button. You can enter commands into the console, which by default is accessed by pressing F1.
10:50
greenthing
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 10:50:12Z
so no
10:51
cl_dummy_restore_weapon? why's it work like that?
10:51
instead of toggling the dummy weapon switch.
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Stepfunn
But is the 0° 45° 90° bind also considered cheating or what is going on?
yes, time to learn how to double nade again
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 11:03:18Z
let's make double nade, but automatically shoot the two grenades with bind troll
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bind mouse1 +fire
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I always thought that 0 45 90 bind was a bit cheaty but our stance is that if you can do it in the client its fine
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using dummy hammerfly to shoot urself with laser is illegal
11:06
and banned
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that makes me wonder why cl_dummy_restore_weapon was implemented in the first place
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It's called dummy hammerfly, not dummy laserfly
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yes
11:07
pls fix bug that causes it to shoot with other weapons first
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That actually should be fixed imo, but a lot of dummy people might get very mad
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deen
Anything you can do ingame is fine, you can also bind multiple actions to a single key in-client
But what will be the following of this announcement I don’t rly get it ?
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Wym? Nothing changed we just reminded everyone of the rules and how they relate to macros. If you don't use macros nothing follows, atleast for you
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as long as you arent caught using macors everything is fine
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Well I guess, same goes with any crime :P
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i use autoclicker all the time to annoy @Stepfunn
justatest 1
11:13
never been warned for it
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Want me to warn you for it?
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no proof i did use it
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ZombieToad
i use autoclicker all the time to annoy @Stepfunn
found the proof
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Archived
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i could say anything its still not proof
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Well confessions are fine for me too
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i hacked into learaths2 discord account
11:16
pls ban it before i steal any passwords
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I mean ok but I feel like a statement like this is a bit pointless if there is no following
11:17
We don’t really understand what’s forbidden and what’s disturbing you
11:17
I’ve always thought that some of these binds were clearly overpowered but I don’t really understand which one is forbidden and which one isn’t tbh
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i mean i think its clear
11:17
Using macros that perform more than one action per user input is within the scope of cheating and will result in a ban.
11:17
xd
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Okay, that announcement wasn't very clear was it :/ I'll do an update
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Yeah but some binds are actually legit and do things that I think are unhuman
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If you can bind it ingame its fine
11:18
It's external tools doing input timing we are concerned about
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Don’t wry I’m not complaining I just don’t rly get the point of this statement
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Binds aren't included in the category of "macro"
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But some of them are clearly overpowered don’t you think ?
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oops i added delay command to my ddnet clients binds
11:20
its not external
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Fluday
But some of them are clearly overpowered don’t you think ?
how are they overpowered if anyone can use it
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Try to beat Just fly 1 rank 1 without a dummy
11:20
Then comeback to me
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if you give everyone the option to use something op then it's no longer op (edited)
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Fluday
But some of them are clearly overpowered don’t you think ?
I do, but I think it's too late for this, everyone uses them and there are thousands of ranks with it
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Learath2
I do, but I think it's too late for this, everyone uses them and there are thousands of ranks with it
Yeah that’s the issue
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That 0 45 90 bind and binding jump and right together is pretty lame imo. I still dont use those because they feel like cheating to me
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bencie
if you give everyone the option to use something op then it's no longer op (edited)
If you find normal that a dummy run can’t be beaten without a dummy, well I don’t share your opinion
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Took so long to learn to time jump and right together
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it can be tho
11:21
wdym
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It’s technically possible to beat a TAS run
11:22
Since it can’t be perfect
11:22
But it’s still impossible
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Clearly he didn't do that record within an hour. With enough practice any rank can be beaten
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I disagree
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Fluday
Since it can’t be perfect
heh
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I also think dummy runs maybe belong in their own category :/ You really can't time this perfectly with two actual humans
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remove dummy so people have to play the game with friends again justatest
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monkaS 3
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Yeah it would take much more time to do it with 2 people but still possible nonetheless since it's kinda humanly impossible to achieve a perfect Speedrun that cannot be improved
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Ravie
remove dummy so people have to play the game with friends again justatest
people repeating this since dummy was added
11:23
monkalaugh
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Ravie
remove dummy so people have to play the game with friends again justatest
Nah, then we don't get the very impressive dummy runs anymore. They are really nice to watch
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Of course it’s technically impossible to do a perfect run
11:24
But some records will never be beaten even though it’s « possible »
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Oh, maybe we should ban people from using a dummy in team 0 without a license. It's so annoying to get a nobo trying to dummy in the middle of a 20p team
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Learath2
Nah, then we don't get the very impressive dummy runs anymore. They are really nice to watch
it's even nicer to watch 2p runs, two players synced perfectly together is even more impressive
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yeah only i should be allowed to use dummy on t0
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ZombieToad
oops i added delay command to my ddnet clients binds
jk im too lazy to do this but it would be nice if someone could do it for me
11:25
add alias and wait pls
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Ryozuki
yeah only i should be allowed to use dummy on t0
Only certified dummy experts like murpi, plant and a couple other people allowed
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Ravie
it's even nicer to watch 2p runs, two players synced perfectly together is even more impressive
+1
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Learath2
Only certified dummy experts like murpi, plant and a couple other people allowed
ill call coradax
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plant is a bot
f3 2
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He is allowed too
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the only problem with dummies on t0 is that they simply afk
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We can do a dummy loicense exam
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In all seriousness, what do y'all think about having dummy ranks separated?
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ideal, but gl combing through all ranks
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Learath2
In all seriousness, what do y'all think about having dummy ranks separated?
It should include other ranks in my opinion
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Learath2
In all seriousness, what do y'all think about having dummy ranks separated?
how would that even work?
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Skeith
ideal, but gl combing through all ranks
It'd be part of my ddnet 2.0 proposal, along with accounts and archival of old ranks :P
poggers 1
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Not all of them but i’ve always thought that it was unfair to be beaten by a team of 4 on a duo map because they cheated half of the parts and made the rank impossible to beat as a team of 2
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ddnet 2.0 pogU
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I basically proposed that idea in the past, so I agree with it
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For a me a run on genericore 8 as 2 is way more impressive than a run as 10 (edited)
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If we call it ddnet season 2 we might even get people to not hate it that much
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When reset all points greenthing
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And as it is right now some rank 1 are far less impressive than duo finishes (edited)
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paradise
When reset all points greenthing
When the new season starts
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a ladder would be super interesting
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It would make the game even more competitive too
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Learath2
When the new season starts
and whens that
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When I feel like doing things again
11:32
Currently I'm looking at paint dry 3 hours a day
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Ryozuki
the only problem with dummies on t0 is that they simply afk
the problem is some idiot lugging his dummy around in an already big group and slowing everyone down
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this 3
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Just having dummies be forced into team upon connecting is ideal, I suggested that a few days ago, but current ranks don't allow that to be added
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the reason I dislike dummy in t0 is that I don't ever get to really play with that person. that person is always hammer-hitting with their dummy, flying with their dummy etc. the other pairs usually change dynamically but the dummy players are just separate
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Ravie
the problem is some idiot lugging his dummy around in an already big group and slowing everyone down
Worst part is when they fail and we have to all risk our runs to go backwards to get them
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They also save their dunmy before you
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and you try to do a part with someones dummy and they block you half way through it because its their dummy not yours
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Ryozuki
They also save their dunmy before you
This absolutely makes my blood boil. The rule is you always unfreeze the guy that saved you
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Well blocking sp someone is a national sport
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just help all at once
11:36
ez
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Learath2
Worst part is when they fail and we have to all risk our runs to go backwards to get them
monkalaugh also they refuse to leave their dummy behind if he's even remotely saveable
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 11:37:03Z
or kicking mithmandir
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Oh also lets ban everyone trying to save more than 2 people at once
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 11:37:23Z
kek
11:37
f3
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2 is max unless you have your pro license
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im banned
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please ban dummy its so boring
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 11:37:45Z
noez is in prison now
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Dummy license, pro license, what else?
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its underlying the whole essence of ddnet
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we need a something like a driving license theoretical test for team0 players. show them an image with the question: which tee(s) do you unfreeze and give them multiple choice
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bencie
Dummy license, pro license, what else?
Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 11:38:21Z
Ask noby, he has an fng license troll
justatest 2
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I was playing sh3 with a couple people 2 days ago. This one random guy kept trying to unfreeze 4 people. Like who do you think you are? Spoopy?
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Learath2
I was playing sh3 with a couple people 2 days ago. This one random guy kept trying to unfreeze 4 people. Like who do you think you are? Spoopy?
Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 11:39:19Z
Like believers said; You have to believe strong enough
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kekw
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bencie
if you give everyone the option to use something op then it's no longer op (edited)
except if only a small group understands to abuse it
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everyone has access to it with no risk tho
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 11:41:04Z
like that uroboro fly or how the fuck you guys call that new flying technique
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it's allowed and and anyone has the option to learn it
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yea but there are binds that not everyone knows
11:41
sure they can figure it out
11:41
but some are just absurd af
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Ryozuki
Well blocking sp someone is a national sport
stop bully
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t0 is actually pretty fun once all the aled nobos and dummy players died out from your group justatest sadly I never get that far
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Cellegen | HU
or kicking mithmandir
i got him earlier
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 11:42:55Z
whooo ban
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ScReeNy
but some are just absurd af
I feel that tbh, had to figure out a few binds for myself too cuz some are not available anywhere
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Now I feel like playing some t0. Let's do a t0 map tonight
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genericore 1 2 3 4 5
11:46
the best t0 maps
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 11:46:07Z
4 troll
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snail
konsti built an IRL bot with a coin and duct tape to cheat in minecraft and said its legit coz its not using any actual software justatest
ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-11-09 11:50:24Z
Which is true lmfao
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 11:51:12Z
hacker rat
11:51
🐀 💻
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ZombieToad
i use autoclicker all the time to annoy @Stepfunn
WeirdChamp
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Learath2
Currently I'm looking at paint dry 3 hours a day
poggers
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Learath2
2 is max unless you have your pro license
Where can i request my pro license?
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Im 'corneum
I think Kamillentee found a way to do a one tick button press with a bind
gib bind pls
yes 1
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Stepfunn
Where can i request my pro license?
it's at the finish line of just rocketfly 2
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its fixed i believe
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Cipy29
it's at the finish line of just rocketfly 2
stfu
greenthing 4
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Learath2
Now I feel like playing some t0. Let's do a t0 map tonight
Bit2 poggers
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Stepfunn
Where can i request my pro license?
If you have an insane finish in a team of 2 you are eligible for a license
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Learath2
If you have an insane finish in a team of 2 you are eligible for a license
I counted 7. Is that enough?
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Yes, contact the licensing board and be sure to provide a photocopy of your id, the picture you want on your license and a 10€ processing fee
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@Stepfunn photo of id + selfie PepeLaugh
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I'm broke
12:39
feelsbadman
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bencie
@Stepfunn photo of id + selfie PepeLaugh
I remember
12:40
justatest
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no scam monkalaugh
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Learath2
In all seriousness, what do y'all think about having dummy ranks separated?
i wonder how could we count rank and teamrank points then :/
12:55
dummyteamrank points ?
12:55
L
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I was thinking of keeping the points together, just marking the dummy finishes in the leaderboards with a [D] or something
12:56
but
12:57
how to know if that a dummy ?
12:57
same ip ?
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just remove all ranks
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Stepfunn
I counted 7. Is that enough?
monkalaugh
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Learath2
I was thinking of keeping the points together, just marking the dummy finishes in the leaderboards with a [D] or something
u could just mark them but i would keep them in the same point pool
14:24
cus for like 90% of maps dummy is harder
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Learath2
We can do a dummy loicense exam
i think u should require a license for people who try to aled in t0
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if u fail 3 t0 aled in a row u get banned 24h
monkaS 5
14:46
from all servers
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Cellegen | HU 2021-11-09 15:02:00Z
yeah ban all aled players, but not blockers Pepega f3
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aled players are blockers, you have to replay the start because some nobo had to try aled and miss
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but if they manage to do it u will be showcased as a dummy on teeworlds montage #32
kek 4
15:12
right after a tee tower
poggers 8
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teetower POGGERS
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can someone send me an invite to the discord data server?
17:42
pls
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@Discord Mod
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snail
if u fail 3 t0 aled in a row u get banned 24h
We need this
19:59
If there is laser u should only be allowed 1 attemptn
19:59
Before ban
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Can someone help
20:10
I get message "error loading demo" when I try to clip an part of the game
20:11
And the file in demo directory is 0 byte
20:11
Can't delete it
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girls
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Deleted User
And the file in demo directory is 0 byte
if it's 0 bytes then it probably means something is still recording to this file
22:36
maybe try closing your game?
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is it possible to activate cl_nameplates_strong while in spec
22:52
always thought it was a bit annoying to have to zoom way out to see somebodys strong icon since /pause makes them disappear
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very cool
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