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Between 2021-10-14 00:00:00Z and 2021-10-15 00:00:00Z
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-10-14 09:53:10Z
@Index: u alive? there is a whitespace in ur deepfly bind :c
09:53
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09:53
pls fix
09:54
also a space before the closing quote in toggle is weird
09:56
post Oct 19, 2015
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@deen https://ddnet.tw/news/speedrun-com/ seems to be overwritten with the secured.gg news, and both links in the news list share the same url
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is it a known problem that server/player/maps are displayed incorrectly? (first screen is the server where I want to go, the second screen is the server where I come)
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newest client
11:40
since the new client it also does not update the servers properly, as if something is going wrong
11:41
before all servers were loaded one by one, now the list does not change when i click on refresh
11:42
very annoying, i change again to my old client 😄
11:45
yes, everything works in the old client (15.3-rc3)
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It does take a second or two for the list to catch up, but it shouldn't be too stale
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servers no longer load one by one, but cached inside the ddnet-cache file, no?
12:01
thats why you see almost nothing change visually except for the player count if you press refresh
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Learath2
It does take a second or two for the list to catch up, but it shouldn't be too stale
it takes alot longer then that, atleast for me ^^
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before you were contacting directly servers to retreive infos now it's the master server that sends you the server list with all the infos (cached obv for a short delay, until it refreshes)ig
12:03
no clue after how it's precisely done behind https master
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I usually have to wait like 10-20 seconds before I get an update to the serverlist
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murpi
thats why you see almost nothing change visually except for the player count if you press refresh
nothing changed when i press refresh
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murpi
I usually have to wait like 10-20 seconds before I get an update to the serverlist
and why? b4 was fine
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like learath said, you wont get an update immediately
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ok maybe in the next client its better (edited)
12:12
i use my old client then
12:14
so I highly recommend sticking to the newer versions with said update
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murpi
I usually have to wait like 10-20 seconds before I get an update to the serverlist
should be about 5s iirc, weird that it's higher for some
12:15
it does make it harder to flw too :/
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Learath2
it does make it harder to flw too :/
yes
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a fair price to pay for better ddos resistance I guess
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it would be cool if it cleaned your connected state from the list when you disconnect tho. I have myself added as a friend to check for fakes and I always check the server again like "wtf there was a friend there?" and it's just me, lagged behind
12:18
so obviously not part of the sync but a special case for your own connection
12:19
@Learath2 is there a hotkey for refresh?
12:21
justatest
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can't test cus I'm on my phone
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its the normal refresh button
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but makes sense
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u can also use it in ur browser (edited)
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Learath2
a fair price to pay for better ddos resistance I guess
what about 0.7? ^^
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it still allows ddosers to collect player ips
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murpi
welp :D
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 13:03:04Z
DDraceNetwork, a mod of Teeworlds. Contribute to Jupeyy/ddnet development by creating an account on GitHub.
13:04
or is your problem only the server info?
13:04
is it 5 seconds already? wasnt it 2 seconds before?
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 13:11:32Z
if the reason is too much trafic, couldnt the tool ping servers with players on more often and just do the 5s for the servers that dont have a player on yet
13:12
but i guess the servers just need a way to ping the master server, then its easier to deal with info changes
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@heinrich5991 what is the interval where we replace the serverlist?
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Jupstar ✪: there is a small discussion about frozen skins in #showroom on discord but I was wondering if you had any interest in the idea. more info in GitHub Discussions too
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:06:02Z
i'm not an artist, i doubt the programming for it is very hard, its just a skin or overlay i guess
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yes I was wondering about the programming part :D
14:07
I'll let you know if anyone comes up with something
14:11
@Ravie did text wrap like that before?
14:11
it doesn't in anything xD
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@lynn Tell me rn WeirdChamp
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@Stepfunn it's an overlay
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I've discussed this before but idk if it's getting fixed
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not the entire ski no
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drives me mad tho
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Ravie
I've discussed this before but idk if it's getting fixed
is it in GitHub?
14:12
won't get fixed prob if it's not
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Yea but how does it make sence to remove the tees eyes because he is frozen ww
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ok u don't understand xd
14:13
so there's the normal skin right
14:13
on TOP of the skin there is a freeze layer
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Lumpy ◐ω◑ 2021-10-14 14:13:44Z
@lynn stop triggering people justatest jk tho
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Yea i get it
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Lumpy ◐ω◑
@lynn stop triggering people justatest jk tho
impossible
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Whats wrong with the normal freeze tee
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When your unfrozen its removed
14:14
Still doesnt make sence to cut someones legs off and remove his eyes because he is frozen?!
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<BµmM>
Whats wrong with the normal freeze tee
doesn't differentiate tees, doesn't allow u to see skin anymore, x_ninja just seems like a temp fix to me.
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Are you jumping into cold water and lose your eyes and legs?
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14:15
I dont think so
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lynn
is it in GitHub?
uh I don't remember tbh, it might not be
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:15:12Z
is ravie mad again about the chat or what text wrapping?
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yes good context clue reading
14:15
sorry
14:15
we just moved from showroom again
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:15:44Z
just accept that your eyes can read it better
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Jupstar ✪
just accept that your eyes can read it better
my eyes don't seem to agree
14:17
and "old chat" is not old chat
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:17:28Z
i bet you know its true, but cant accept it
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Lumpy ◐ω◑ 2021-10-14 14:18:33Z
don't offend Ravie, pls, he is my favourite art guy brownbear
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Jupstar ✪
i bet you know its true, but cant accept it
I've said it before that I read chat without skipping reading who wrote the message, so the next line is just stupid to read (edited)
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something tells me it would take a tiny amount of time to make a setting for it lol
14:20
considering that way already existed
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:20:42Z
he is free to use older clients
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at this point let's just make it discord style
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why can't old chat be what it's called?
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:21:24Z
@lynn: do you know the old version?
14:21
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Btw is /swap coming back?
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14:21
why isn't it even in line with the name xD
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making room for the id
14:22
and it's still a way smaller gap than this
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why does it not react to that setting
14:22
grrrr
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:22:27Z
this is literally an old screenshot btw
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:22:46Z
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:22:58Z
nobody uses such names tho xD
14:23
i already use an insanely long name
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some people do use long names
14:23
in the old one the gap is at least always consistent and very small
14:23
and there's not even a gap if you have id's enabled like I do
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:24:10Z
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you're not just reading the white part tho
14:24
at least I'm not, I like knowing who's talking monkalaugh
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:25:05Z
yes enable skins
14:25
tees
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new chat with skins is 🤢
14:25
and still has the gap issue
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:25:25Z
your peripheric view can easily see who is writting
14:25
without looking at the exact name
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the skin is even farther to the left
14:26
why would I start reading 3 words in and just glance who is writing
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Lumpy ◐ω◑ 2021-10-14 14:26:30Z
ok, i'm off to the showroom, too stressful here justatest
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also even if readability is arguable, that empty rectangle looks disgusting
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:27:11Z
thats something i'd say is indeed worth a discussion
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and also makes the chat take up more space on the screen
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:27:43Z
but even for that i just got used to it, and my background color is grey, so i dont really notice it most of the time xD
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in my ridiculous WWWWWW name example it could turn a 1 line message into like 3 lines xD
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:28:33Z
in 16:9 we could also increase the width, but that would trigger ppl even more xDD
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just tell me if it's ridiculously hard to fix in code, that I could understand
14:28
but no gap is objectively better
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:29:15Z
it would defs increase code complexity
14:29
but "hard" is hard to say
14:29
i find it easy, but i also have to test it, which is annoying
14:32
oh its fixed code wise, but i dunno if admins want to reactivate it (@<BµmM>)
Btw is /swap coming back?
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I FUCKING LOLD
14:46
jupeyy I can't show u my transheart reaction to ur post but imagine it
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Jupstar ✪
oh its fixed code wise, but i dunno if admins want to reactivate it (@<BµmM>)
Why, everyone loved it lol
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map skippers loved it
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justatest
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spookenzano
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…avie !screenshot_2021-10-14_16-50-34

Checklist

  • [x] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics t...
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 14:55:54Z
bcs it was always buggy xd (@<BµmM>)
Why, everyone loved it lol
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 15:00:29Z
[R]avie
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Jupstar ✪ BOT 2021-10-14 15:07:10Z
@<BµmM>: ask learath or deen if they want to enable it, they have to deal with deleting ranks, if it promotes cheats again xD
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lynn
@deen https://ddnet.tw/news/speedrun-com/ seems to be overwritten with the secured.gg news, and both links in the news list share the same url
oops
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no problem lol I just randomly spotted that
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6ed94ce Update 2021-09-29-ger1-usa2.markdown - def-
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chillerdragon
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Thanks for the notification, quite impressed by how you noticed that :o I fixed the space before the quotes, unfortunately the space(s) after the .cfg are not visible in the editor, feels like that's a technical limitation of phbb? :<
16:33
Also I'm afraid you'll find 5235 more minor spelling or formatting errors in my other threads :> Feel free to ping me then and I'll gladly fix them)) (edited)
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ur alive!
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chillerdragon: yo thx for the issue, the problem is that the mod is based on a very old version (maybe 8years ago) so i am lazy to update it i also dont have much time and as u know im still bad at « coding ». but if you want to help a bit for fun.. 😆
17:15
i dont know how to ping for matricks users
17:15
it should work
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and btw the client is not supposed to be used but would be cool to make some interesting things only for blockers, for exemple mapping
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Ravie
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lmfao
18:23
do that and then press tab
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@louis tab hides chat
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lynn
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