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how many maps even have shotgunfly

03:46

if anyone actually knows how it works, consider putting a tiny bit of text at least on this page so it isn't just blank https://wiki.ddnet.tw/wiki/Shotgunfly

Shotgunfly

03:46

also oddly the Throw page is also blank. i figured someone might have just explained it on the hook or hammer pages but nope

03:47

I guess a "throw" is hard to define, not in concrete terms. we might be able to generally categorize throws into different types but i think it's harder to approach than other tech

03:47

like there is a throw u can do where you keep hook to throw a frozen tee up and around a ceiling edge

in my head i think there are 5 main types of throws:

vertical: prioritizing only height
near-vertical: trying to land the tee on top of some higher platform
diagonal: prioritizing both distance and height roughly equally
horizontal: prioritizing only distance
horizontal gap: prioritizing mostly distance, but also a specific height range the tee must pass through there is also a 6th "throw" which is circle throw, but imo it's not in the same lineup as the rest as they dont achieve the same goal as getting the tee to a specific location. it's usually just a part of a setup or used for momentum in 2p for each of the 5 types, there are various ways to do it. pre-hook so the tee is off the ground, dragging the tee upwards to incorporate vertical speed into a horizontal throw, pre-throw upwards to use the tee for extra height, and any combination of these techniques or even others im not thinking of.

03:55

im just a noob so i might be missing a lot here, feel free to add to this

03:56

i also didn't even consider weapon or player state synergy which might involve some other stuff but i think those should just be references for the main article for the weapon/state

hmm resizing videos makes the alignment weird. @Ryozuki any idea how to fix this? https://wiki.ddnet.tw/wiki/Grenade

Grenade

The Grenade Launcher is an automatic projectile weapon that is centered around fast and vertical movement.

04:09

i tried inputting the original dims for each and it just ended up making them even weirder

04:10

also this video has a lot of dead air between the demonstration https://wiki.ddnet.tw/images/c/cd/Rocket-wall-up.mp4

04:11

compared to the others at least

04:14

also pls don't refer to tiles as "blocks" since they're not referred to as such internally

04:28

or even in-game, i think they are almost always communicated as "tiles" between players

lynn

in my head i think there are 5 main types of throws:

vertical: prioritizing only height
near-vertical: trying to land the tee on top of some higher platform
diagonal: prioritizing both distance and height roughly equally
horizontal: prioritizing only distance
horizontal gap: prioritizing mostly distance, but also a specific height range the tee must pass through there is also a 6th "throw" which is circle throw, but imo it's not in the same lineup as the rest as they dont achieve the same goal as getting the tee to a specific location. it's usually just a part of a setup or used for momentum in 2p for each of the 5 types, there are various ways to do it. pre-hook so the tee is off the ground, dragging the tee upwards to incorporate vertical speed into a horizontal throw, pre-throw upwards to use the tee for extra height, and any combination of these techniques or even others im not thinking of.

i wouldnt classify them into types

also laser beams "bounce"

04:28

they don't "reflect" or "refract" or any of that lol

04:29

internally they are considered "bouncing"

louis

i wouldnt classify them into types

ye but to make it easier for people to understand i think it's worth it

04:29

you might have a conclusion section that says like

lynn

also laser beams "bounce"

i think reflect is better

all throws are just throws

yeah u can talk about how to do diff styles of throws

04:29

true

there's nothing specific about a horizontal throw that makes it functionally different

04:29

but using it as a basis for explanation

louis

i think reflect is better

maybe so but we should respect consistency

wym consistency

it also makes it easier to talk about when u map a lot lol

o u mean tune zone names

and you're using to calling it that

04:30

yes

04:30

i think the natural word is "bounce"

i guess i do call them laser bounces but reflections is the more "scientific" term lol

i think most players would say that

04:30

even tho it's more accurate to say reflect

04:30

yes

04:30

imo we need a style guide.

i wouldnt do the language based on the code tho. id do it based on community lingo

respect internal naming, use "it" for tee

louis

i wouldnt do the language based on the code tho. id do it based on community lingo

i think both