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Between 2021-10-08 00:00:00Z and 2021-10-09 00:00:00Z
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tornado feelspepoman
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that is wicked
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@ano es b
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i want to ask you guys about 2nd or 3rd language education in your countries
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because in russia its really unsystematised
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i mean you can do it (electively)
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but it's not a primary thing
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i really wish we had to pick a language in primary school to learn
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and then u would learn it before u move to middle school
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gerdoe
because in russia its really unsystematised
our english books are just mess of all theory
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lynn
and then u would learn it before u move to middle school
oh we had something like this in ussr
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hah, english theory
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makes no sense
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you could choose french german or english
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wtf no spanish
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i guess it's not useful there
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lol imagine spanish in soviet country
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soviet catalun justatest
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heil catalunya
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i didn't say national-democratic catalunya justatest
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and it seems in near future catalonia will fire (edited)
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that person from livia
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cadaffi?
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he said that east countries will fire after ussr
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aaand
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gerdoe
and it seems in near future catalonia will fire (edited)
rip catalun
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do u think spain will eat it
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nom (edited)
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imagine ryo as president of republic of catalun
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lynn
do u think spain will eat it
i don't know
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teeworlds official country sport
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no actually
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he would make dota 2
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black future justatest
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i dont wanna play dota 2
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urnt in catalun
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i have more unimportant stuff to do
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true
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imnt
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you are not -> urnt
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kekw
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funny thing
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you just improved english
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and you are russian
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its like как мне кажется -> кмк
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15 symbols into 3
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do you know any good book for learning english as native?
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because our books are crap without any theory
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wdym as native
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like what we would use?
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i even know history of russian language i want to know more about english one
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lynn
like what we would use?
yep
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so long ago idk how i learned english
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what things do u not know
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system of english
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now i can say that i don't know english at all
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but translating things is real fun kekw
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you seem to know a bit
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unless you just translate really fast
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but our dialogues are really primitive
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i can't say anything i really know in russian as i would say it in english (edited)
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so you just have a smaller set of things u can talk about in english
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lynn
so you just have a smaller set of things u can talk about in english
yep
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and it bothers me a lot
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time 2 give u english lesson
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i don't mind to
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how many ways do you think you can say "good" ?
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like synonyms
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haha good question
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great
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and that's all, i think (edited)
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fine maybe
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alright
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what about some crazy ones like
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benevolent
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beneficial
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i guess it's not a complete match but they're good words
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i don't think these words are good synonyms for 'good'
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only if we talk about good in general (edited)
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maybe a better way is
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say something in russian in teehouse sometimes and ping me so i can help u understand it
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for what it means in english
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hm okey
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but we aren't talking much in teehouse on specific topics (edited)
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just whenever u randomly think something in russian that u don't know in english
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or you remember a word you don't know in english
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got it
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watch everything in english with subs
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thanks :>
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thats what i do
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what do you watch?
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but ur english pro
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lol no
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xd
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@lynn i bet heinrich knows more rich vocabular than you tho
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he has politician level english kekw
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i would be surprised but idk how much he speaks english
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like outside of this server
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we're prob the same
justatest 2
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the only good thing about being native english is the accent, otherwise being from another country and learning english is the best
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greenthing
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i know english spanish and catalan
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im trilingual
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i mean i think knowing it but learning other langs is better tho
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if you do learn them
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cus english is harder
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also knowing more than 1 languages improves something in ur brain or something
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bluekitty
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Ryozuki
the only good thing about being native english is the accent, otherwise being from another country and learning english is the best
if you're a native english speaker then learning pretty much any other language is gonna be harder than your native, which sucks xd
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cuz english is so simple
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compared to spanish for example
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i don't rly agree with that xd
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i think americans are just lazy
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well, and we don't really have to learn other languages
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if you're born in a country with some ridiculous language then learning most other languages isn't gonna be that hard
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i think English is pretty ridiculous compared to others
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I mean ridiculously complex
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only thing in Spanish is the million tense forms
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also spanish is based, all nouns are gendered monkalaugh monkalaugh
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otherwise easiest language
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German is probably also easy
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just have to know a ton of vocab
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you can learn basic english theory in no time at all, then it's just about learning more words and nasty exceptions
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cus if you have a new thought in German you can create a word that means the whole thought
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even if it's like 100 characters long xd
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but thats just them being able to put words together
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u can express it in any lang
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Ravie
you can learn basic english theory in no time at all, then it's just about learning more words and nasty exceptions
exceptions are part of the theory tho
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no denying that
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you can't just learn "normal" english without it
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some exceptions have theory and others you just have to kinda remember
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most of the bullshit ones are just ones u have to remember thankfully
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the ones that are less bullshit are just theory
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“Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.”
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for me, the annoying thing about english is its inconsistent pronunciation
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he's typing
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oh
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I thought you were going to flex your English knowledge on me
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thats why i suck at speaking
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i prefer to write
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English fucking sucks to say and it doesn't even sound nice
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that sentence only exists cause americans have to name everything Buffalo monkalaugh
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german is a bit annoying to speak/write because you have to learn each noun's gender and then also adjust the noun's attributes to match
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the only languages i think sound good are like.. Japanese, Korean, Spanish
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that also happens in spanish and catalan
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that's it
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french is the stereotypical good(/well?)-sounding language
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gender in languages is so dumb unless the gender is significant xd
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like why did someone think that's a good idea
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I think it's crazy to think that French sounds good but just my opinion
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french sounds awful
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it sounds extremely cursed
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ye it sounds weirtd
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it can be helpful to distinguish what pronouns refer to
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but definitely what the stereotype is
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like it's also helpful for people (he/she/?)
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the fact that we have no ungendered vs unknown gender difference
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in any language
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but I fixed this in my language
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;)
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languages were invented before someone could get mad at you for using the wrong gender form of a word and it was actually useful for context
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it's not even about being mad about it it's just the convenience of differentiating normal things
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like it takes 4 seconds to think about why it's a good idea and come to the conclusion that it has nothing to do with someone getting mad about it
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so in my lang thing "e" is the unknown pronoun vowel
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i is fem, o is masc, and u is ungendered
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hm. I found that japanese is fairly gender neutral compared to other languages
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there are other parts of the pronoun that make up the word but I don't want to spoil
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"ave" is my fav
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first person general pronoun
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too many messages
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since every word has a gender in german, guess how much fun we have with profession names 😉
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what drama is lynn trying to start today
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nice side effect of this system is that if you refer to yourself with a gendered pronouns then the person you're speaking with knows ur gender just from the context
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lol chill out, zero drama
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el policía and la policía are both valid
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heinrich5991
since every word has a gender in german, guess how much fun we have with profession names 😉
isn't it usually about replacing 'or' with 'in' or so?
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the first means one male police and the second the police in general
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kekw
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why are you allowed to gender things that already have a specific gender
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like to me learning Spanish that was just considered wrong to do
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cursed
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Ryozuki
the only good thing about being native english is the accent, otherwise being from another country and learning english is the best
non-native can fix their accent so i think it's not a big problem
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you know what else sucks about english (i guess it's not a huge deal)
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gerdoe
non-native can fix their accent so i think it's not a big problem
its rly hard
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if i say "we" then you have to rely on context to know if i am including you (edited)
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I know some languages can differentiate that
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but I don't know which
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no european ones, probably
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I believe french does this
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no
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Nick said so
monkalaugh 1
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:(
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I learned some french in school, I think I would have remembered that
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@snail enlighten us
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well Nick speaks french more than English ;(
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yes
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what french does is labeling a group of only women elles, but mixed groups and group of only men ils
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that's a bit that's different from german
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we do that too
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meh that's what Spanish does too
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like дамы и господа?
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if its only women ellas, if mixed or male ellos
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and not just with this
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give us ellus
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mixed
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roman langs feelsbadman
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kind of sounds dumb though
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it sounds like you're saying ellos but in a terrible way
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can anyone agree that the Korean alphabet is the coolest fucking one
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i like more japanese
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korena looks ugly
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haven't learnt it (yet?), but it's designed, so it's different I guess 🙂
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armenian alphabet da best
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I think Korean looks better than Japanese just because it's simpler
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but it's also not boring like Latin
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then you should hate chinese
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kekw
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yes I kind of do (edited)
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gerdoe
then you should hate chinese
with their dialects uh oh
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but chinese/japanese/korean websites look so a e s t h e t i c
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I mean I think the Chinese language is cool but I'm just not a fan of how dense it is
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only japanese imho
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also there's definitely not one Chinese language so it's hard to talk about
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korean has edgy alphabet while japanese has nice flow in it
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@TsFreddie 🫂
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curves and curves
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the way Korean sounds has really grown on me
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at first I thought it was more awkward than Japanese, and I guess it still is but the difference is small to me
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ayaya
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return to middle-east languages kekw
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Arabic is one of the coolest languages but it is not practical at all
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there is no кегль in japanes that's why it looks good at some point
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japanese
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all I know is "habibi"
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japanese with bold font looks cool
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which is a cute af word
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allah
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Arabic sounds sick tho
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pain
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I take it all back
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it refuses to load
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no al qaeda ghymn bruh
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best examples of Arabic ever
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wait greek is cool too
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every lang is cool
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