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Between 2021-09-30 00:00:00Z and 2021-10-01 00:00:00Z

gerdoe

all collisions in tw are circle-circle unless tiles

i dont think so

04:23

but i think its different between hooking and touching the tee to another tee, im not sure but i think they both have different collisions.

04:23

ill test it out later

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

ed94724 M AnotherEra, M Samsara VI, A Yeyou 2 - ddnet-maps

troll

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Real

but i think its different between hooking and touching the tee to another tee, im not sure but i think they both have different collisions.

I don't think that adding some velocity is real collision tho

gerdoe

I don't think that adding some velocity is real collision tho

How would you do it then?

06:11

i mean

06:11

tees are no complicated model or something

06:11

i think its fine xd

fokkonaut

How would you do it then?

set position without changing any velocity kekw

that can lead you to being in the wall

06:59

and being stuck

i don't really remember how does tw MoveBox

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/560d2ad1a3249709e6594b8c365f65cbd83a7351/src/game/collision.cpp#L497-L563

ddnet/collision.cpp at 560d2ad1a3249709e6594b8c365f65cbd83a7351 · d...

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - ddnet/collision.cpp at 560d2ad1a3249709e6594b8c365f65cbd83a7351 · ddnet/ddnet

finally google

11:03

added dark theme

11:03

to google

google sok

11:13

lmao the ddnet++ code base is so cursed it now requires bam AND cmake to compile :D but yay i managed to yoink in ddnet's git history into my fork that started half an decade ago with a fresh history

what even is the sense of bam? isnt that just shooting in your own leg for absolutly no gain

11:44

whats the history of teeworlds, did matricks invent everything from scretch for educational purposes, or just for no reason?

education is my guess. it‘s much more fun to reinvent the wheel

ok^^

deen

education is my guess. it‘s much more fun to reinvent the wheel

hence system.c lol

mh yeah but c++98 also sucks

12:08

xD

12:09

and teeworlds was written in c first wasnt it?

yes

still waiting for matricks to build a c compiler

trolldragon

its not for education matricks is just smarter and writes better code than everything out there

12:56

bam > cmake

12:56

str_copy > strncpy

rip chn

13:01

can we just connect to steamwork's network and let people just host servers via steamwork and let them connect to each other in a time like this

you mean sdr? it means no more open source client and server

13:02

and by time like this you mean always?

lol

13:02

idk

we could try it, but i‘m still waiting for cloudflare first

13:04

giving up open source is a huge step imo

are we getting support from cloudflare?

i contacted someone, on HN they said they could help cheaper

what about china

china is super hard, we‘d need a chinese company to help us

probably not gonna happen

the c functions really arent the best, would be nice if c++ would support static sized strings like boost does :/

str_copy > strncpy

best about teeworlds base is how it supports all platforms

troll³

troll

fokko when add a mobile mode for ddnet, i bet many of your players just chilling on your servers anyway xD

Lul

13:13

Android support is back in no?

it is

see

13:13

then i dont need to do so

but ddnet on android without mobile support sucks xd

doesnt it have mobile support?

i mean it runs, and if i connect a keyboard to my phone it works xD

soo?

but it doesnt have like buttons to toggle scoreboard and stuff

u mean on screen controls

yeah

Well, it was in ddnet 9.3.1

13:15

cant u just move it back in

i dunno

code exists

13:15

i think

13:15

its SDL stuff

13:15

i believe

i never looked into that source, but it also was SDL 1.x

maybe take a look at it again or so

yeah but someone also needs to fix the whole IME stuff

i know that each on screen Button was mapped to a real key, which could be bound ingame xd

bcs it overlapps with android onscreen keyboard

in the sdl settings while booting the game u could set those buttons

13:16

and u could move them customly

ah yeah, maybe smone should add it back xddd

ye probably xD

pelya had android port of 0.6 client afair

ye, it was even on google play

13:17

lol

13:17

back then

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1614/files

ye

ye would love onscreen buttons also for non android phones

13:52

i wonder if walking with the phone tilt sensor would be any good

ddnet fitness program how much did you move today, before you played ddnet

also we need aim assist on mobile because its so hard to play w touch

trollerdragon

hrhrhr

13:56

Its a thing in mobile tho

13:56

"Brawl Stars" is a pvp game where you shoot each other and you can literally turn on aimbot

you cant compare such a bad game to a brilliant game like teeworlds xd

brilliant

Can I offer some free work to some companies? I want to fix some bugs, I don’t want anything in return

monkaS

16:55

what companies

Mihoyo to start with. Then I can offer some to facebook. Then my next target would be microsoft

16:59

I can help reddit too, but I doubt they’d want my help given I’d remove the fucking “use the app” nag

Mihoyo?

17:00

do u play genshin

17:00

isnt it just some mindless gacha

Ofc I play genshin, the premier weeb game

i prefer to waste mony on dota

17:01

monkalaugh

It actually has a great story and I personally think the money grubbing company is ruining it

the only company i would help free is valve, make steam have proper window hints for the chat so that twm can make it floating properly

But even free2play and the mechanics to force you to play every day it still has a pretty great gameplay loop imo. If only their priority was to make a great game instead of making a shit ton of money

17:02

Oh, my, god valve yes, hire me please. I’ll make you a new client

also the steam client is super aggresive at stealing ur cursor

17:03

xd

Seriously fuck all this web browser ui ba

17:03

Bs*

17:03

Steam client works like horseshit, feels like I’m running on a core2duo

xd

17:04

its better to browse the shop on the browser

17:04

seriously

17:04

xd

100% agree. If I have to use a browser I’d use a proper desktop browser not embedded garbage

17:05

I can help discord too

17:06

I can give my bank a hand with their shitty website

i bet you can crash clients with million votes in votelist :D

yea crashing clients with malicious servers is still a thing

Hm, don’t remember but he vote heap probably refuses to grow past a certain point

@gerdoe: go fuzz and fix

Learath2

Hm, don’t remember but he vote heap probably refuses to grow past a certain point

server-side or client-side

Both sides iirc

gerdoe

i bet you can crash clients with million votes in votelist :D

u can

Someone should add a limit there

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4184 Run headless client in CI

Catches client crashes in the CI that happen on launch or connection to server

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or ...

Learath2

Both sides iirc

you can always modify server to do any bad thing kekw

The client should resist it though

let's check then

Noby says it doesn’t so we should fix it imo

there are plenty of ways to crash client from server

Which we should try to fix

i think its all things taht would never happen with normal servers

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/560d2ad1a3249709e6594b8c365f65cbd83a7351/src/game/client/components/voting.cpp#L222 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/560d2ad1a3249709e6594b8c365f65cbd83a7351/src/game/client/components/voting.cpp#L135 that's it

Learath2

I can help reddit too, but I doubt they’d want my help given I’d remove the fucking “use the app” nag

They only make money with the app, you want to destroy them?

17:22

You can't track people and get their info well with a website, need an app for that

They have a fair bit of ads everywhere, though I hear their clickthru rate is awful so they don’t get paid well iirc

@Learath2 afair you did something about replacing basic containers by std::*, how's it going?

I don’t like that the goal with everything is money and that people still support these things. I would gladly host something like reddit with the same model we run ddnet if it had any chance of being used

Learath2

I don’t like that the goal with everything is money and that people still support these things. I would gladly host something like reddit with the same model we run ddnet if it had any chance of being used

federative social medeia :p

17:24

media*

gerdoe

@Learath2 afair you did something about replacing basic containers by std::*, how's it going?

Oh, I was almost done with that actually. Just a few tricky ones remained

17:25

Maybe I should push it so someone else can finish it up

it will be hardest pr to review :D

Wikipedia is a good counter-example, really successful, donations only

gerdoe

federative social medeia :p

I know there are things like mastodon, but they are just doomed for mainstream failure. It’s just a nerdfest

deen

Wikipedia is a good counter-example, really successful, donations only

they keep their ads too agressive

noby

i think its all things taht would never happen with normal servers

yep

deen

Wikipedia is a good counter-example, really successful, donations only

Probably the only one of it’s kind. I don’t really think I know any others with mainstream success

the only thing i don't like in wikipedia

Learath2

I know there are things like mastodon, but they are just doomed for mainstream failure. It’s just a nerdfest

hm, ye, you are right at that point

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

afc253c Run headless client in CI - ChillerDragon 5eb1ef5 Merge #4184 - bors[bot]

17:35

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4184 Run headless client in CI

dummy's netmsg are going after main tees yep?

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@Learath2 how is secured.gg doing with USA and GER?

eh

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