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lynn 2021-08-21 00:33:59Z
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GitHub BOT 2021-08-21 04:30:26Z
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ddnet-maps
[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit
9389b5f A UnrealMap - ddnet-maps
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 06:59:49Z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k238XpMMn38
shounic
the rapidly dwindling sanity of valve programmers as expressed thro...
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xdd
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monkaS
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Anime.pdf 2021-08-21 07:17:19Z
monkaS
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GTFGCClientSystem?
07:18
What is that (edited)
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 07:20:39Z
team fortress sourcecode
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 07:29:57Z
@deen if u can fix the style error in #4101 and i can merge it
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DDNet BOT 2021-08-21 07:29:57Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4101
Fix long maps not showing as finished (fixes #4092) by def- · Pull ...
Only used client-side so no protocol change Checklist Tested the change ingame Provided screenshots if it is a visual change Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options ...
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 07:30:07Z
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im sure there is a way to call fix_styles.py on a pre commit hook or something
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deen 2021-08-21 07:30:49Z
done
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 07:30:51Z
should look into that
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deen 2021-08-21 07:31:14Z
I don't like having clang-format run in pre-commit, rather pre-push
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because sometimes it destroys nice formatting
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 07:31:30Z
ah ok
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@deen do u know if the swap resets switches only on teams of 2 tees?
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did anyone test it with a team of 3
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it may be because this i guess
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deen 2021-08-21 07:39:23Z
that would be bad
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can you please check?
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 07:39:53Z
ok
07:41
i dont see anywhere else where teamstate is reset and i think thats the only way to reset switches right?
07:41
hmm
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GitHub BOT 2021-08-21 07:41:54Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
9a03b6d Fix long maps not showing as finished (fixes #4092) - def- 1aeb09f Merge #4101 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4092 Map not showing up as already finished in server browser
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4101 Fix long maps not showing as finished (fixes #4092)
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 07:46:43Z
it resets with 3 too
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 07:58:30Z
i found a fix
07:59
i think
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GitHub BOT 2021-08-21 08:03:17Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4103 Fix swap resets switches.
Fixes #3806

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  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addr...
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 08:04:02Z
poggers
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i tested it so it doesnt seem to break anything
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but better to test it extensively in a rc
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monkaS
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Learath2 2021-08-21 08:52:31Z
I think we'll have to do a release before #4088 gets addressed, we probably shouldn't have rolled back to begin with
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DDNet BOT 2021-08-21 08:52:31Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/4088
Improve start line skip patch · Issue #4088 · ddnet/ddnet
A non started tee leaving the team makes the team unfinishable. This made a couple teams fail some with multiple hours in their timers. Without #3091 system messages are unreadable to some of our p...
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Patiga 2021-08-21 10:05:36Z
I have now released my python bindings for twmap https://gitlab.com/Patiga/twmap-py ! Every part of the map can be read, however only the map info is currently writable. You can try it out by installing it with pip install twmap and using help on the module and the different types. Currently you can only use it on linux, but I'm trying to figure out how to get them to windows as well
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 10:05:45Z
poggers!
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Learath2 2021-08-21 10:06:13Z
@Patiga hm, what is the issue on windows?
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Patiga 2021-08-21 10:07:00Z
I'm using https://github.com/PyO3/maturin to publish it for pip directly using a docker container, but I don't know yet how to cross compile and release it with that tool
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Learath2 2021-08-21 10:07:08Z
ah
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Patiga 2021-08-21 10:08:41Z
I also changed the license of twmap to lgpl from agpl. the python bindings are also under lgpl (chillerdragon @Ryozuki @gerdoe)
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 10:08:55Z
ah nice there are licenses now!
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dafaqa lgpl
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wat does it mean? im forced to do open src?
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wats ur motivation sell me the license please
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 10:10:18Z
lgpl is more permissive than agpl
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Patiga 2021-08-21 10:10:27Z
I want changes to my license to be released publicly, however don't want depending libraries to be forced into my license
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 10:10:32Z
agpl requires u to provide the source even if ur app is hosted on a server
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Patiga 2021-08-21 10:10:47Z
*changes to my library
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 10:10:52Z
@Patiga lately i use the combo MIT OR Apache 2.0
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this way contributors give u patent rights
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when making pr
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but people who use it
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have the permissive MIT
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 10:11:16Z
ah right so one can use the lib in closed src but changes to the lib have to be published?
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Learath2 2021-08-21 10:11:18Z
lgpl is the nicest form of gpl imo, but agpl is also nice
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Patiga 2021-08-21 10:11:32Z
chillerdragon: exactly
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 10:11:39Z
sounds like a good lib license
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 10:11:39Z
yes
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but gpl doesnt require that for libs u use on a server
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thats why agpl was made
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 10:12:08Z
@Patiga nice to hear! really good job^
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 10:12:18Z
> >
The GNU Affero General Public License is a modified version of the ordinary GNU GPL version 3. It has one added requirement: if you run a modified program on a server and let other users communicate with it there, your server must also allow them to download the source code corresponding to the modified version running there.
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The purpose of the GNU Affero GPL is to prevent a problem that affects developers of free programs that are often used on servers.
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Learath2 2021-08-21 10:12:19Z
I just release most everything I make under bsd license
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GitHub BOT 2021-08-21 10:12:20Z
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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
02abc95 Use consistent case for error messages - ChillerDragon 4853166 erros typo and rephrase - ChillerDragon 42f21c6 Merge #3986 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3986 Use consistent case for error messages
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Patiga 2021-08-21 10:12:44Z
@Ryozuki yeah if it existed I would've use ALGPL ^^
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like agpl and lgpl combined
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@Patiga nice to hear! really good job^
Patiga 2021-08-21 10:13:26Z
thanks :)
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Learath2 2021-08-21 10:13:33Z
do a diff between gpl and agpl, apply the diff to lgpl 😛
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 10:14:20Z
@Patiga: go study law and craft the algpl license ur self
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Patiga 2021-08-21 10:16:13Z
yeah I think I'll stay with existing licenses for now :p
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 10:16:24Z
xd
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does agpl even allow you to change the license?
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Patiga 2021-08-21 10:17:15Z
if you depend on a project that is under agpl, you need to use agpl as well afaik
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 10:17:43Z
ah ye
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but i mean you as the code owner can you publish under agpl and then change it again ?
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Patiga 2021-08-21 10:19:28Z
yup :)
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it helps that I'm the only contributor
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 10:25:36Z
ah right due to include order
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jobs.h depended on that system.h rip
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:08:09Z
wow @Ryozuki accounts?
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 13:08:29Z
monkalaugh
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its prob bad
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but its my opportunity to add rust into ddnet monkalaugh
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chilledragon add a base64 encoder to ddnet pls
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chillerdragon *
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no autocompletion for ur name sucks
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:13:51Z
cant u ping the ChillerDragon on discord? and this should automcomplete.
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Also you do not need an external auth service to add rust. Just rewrite parts of the c++ in rust :D
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 13:14:42Z
as heinrich did :D
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:17:34Z
did he?
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 13:17:47Z
libtw2?
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:17:54Z
you mean libtw2 right? i mean ddnet/ddnet just replace parts
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libtw2 is also some external stuff
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i mean we could rewrite parts of the actual server and client in rust
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 13:18:27Z
engine stuff is here
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:18:39Z
yea not integrated tho
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@heinrich5991: still waiting for the tw server rewritten in rust
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 13:19:55Z
its rewritten
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basic stuff tho
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like you can launch server with map
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:22:21Z
yes i know
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but not finished
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and still 0.6 lul
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Patiga
yup :)
Learath2 2021-08-21 13:34:02Z
Q: Can you actually retroactively change the licensing on a previously published version of the library? Can't people still keep using it under agpl?
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Patiga 2021-08-21 13:34:23Z
I can't
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ah
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well, lgpl is strictly more permissive than agpl afaik
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Learath2 2021-08-21 13:35:04Z
Yeah, I know, just a hypothetical
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Patiga 2021-08-21 13:35:21Z
I think I can make it more permissive, but not stricter
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Learath2 2021-08-21 13:35:41Z
You can probably make it stricter but it'd only apply to newer versions
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Patiga 2021-08-21 13:36:14Z
yeah, I meant retroactively
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:38:49Z
but the new version also include the old code right?
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so some code then has two licenses
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 13:39:26Z
ur the author
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u can change it
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for new versions
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i guess
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Learath2 2021-08-21 13:39:40Z
I am not completely sure how it works, but I'd guess code that exists under both licenses can be used under either
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e.g. if a piece of code was published under MIT, but then you applied a stricter license e.g. GPL. People can still use that part of the code under MIT, as long as it is as is from when it was published
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:40:50Z
yes
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which is super weird because you have the exact same code in a repo with GPL license then
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easiest is to not change licenses @Patiga you took a long time to pick it now u better keep it :p
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Learath2 2021-08-21 13:42:12Z
relaxing your license is easy as everyone would just prefer to use the most permissive anyway
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:43:05Z
relax and drink 🍺
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerware
Beerware
Beerware is a tongue-in-cheek term for software released under a very relaxed license (beerware licensed software). It provides the end user with the right to use a particular program (or do anything else with the source code).
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Learath2 2021-08-21 13:43:23Z
I just noticed how badly steam works on macOS
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how do you fuck it up so bad that a desktop application is laggy
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:43:44Z
i just noticed how badly macOS works when undusting my old machine to fix mac build
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but tbh steam is buggo anyways even on linux it feels odd
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isnt steam using arch linux for their latest console? :D
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Learath2 2021-08-21 13:44:23Z
electron and co are cancers on the industry, I wish they would just die off
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 13:45:02Z
if electron dies it would probably only be because its replaced by something similar bad
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Learath2 2021-08-21 13:45:16Z
alas, cheap outsourced web development is a huge allure for companies
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capitalism is good for innovation and better products my ass
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 15:13:16Z
@Learath2: yo still have an mac? Can u build teeworlds without complications?
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Deleted User 2021-08-21 15:15:14Z
🍞
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Learath2 2021-08-21 15:15:31Z
Haven't tried teeworlds but I'd guess it suffers the same issue as ddnet on my catalina macOS
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Maiski 2021-08-21 15:23:44Z
Fullscreen window screen resolution setting is broken with SDL master
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 15:24:02Z
@Learath2 u haven seen the issues right? monkalaugh
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https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/discussions/4033#discussioncomment-1215665
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monkaS
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im using the shiniest rust lib by your friends from tokio: https://github.com/tokio-rs/axum
GitHub - tokio-rs/axum: Ergonomic and modular web framework built w...
Ergonomic and modular web framework built with Tokio, Tower, and Hyper - GitHub - tokio-rs/axum: Ergonomic and modular web framework built with Tokio, Tower, and Hyper
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Maiski
Fullscreen window screen resolution setting is broken with SDL master
Maiski 2021-08-21 15:26:52Z
SDL seems to contain some code to make SDL_SetWindowSize work on fullscreen windows, but that doesn't work anymore
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 15:26:57Z
i just have to figure out how the http stuff works in ddnet
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to test it
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Deleted User 2021-08-21 16:07:34Z
send SDL all bugs u find, we need a stable version to update xdd
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chillerdragon BOT 2021-08-21 16:29:31Z
watafak SDL
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nobody responded to my SDL issue yet is it even a bug? I mean the SDL_VIDEO_MINIMIZE_ON_FOCUS_LOSS=0 @Maiski suggested fixed it so im not sure if its a SDL bug or just bad sdl configuration
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Deleted User 2021-08-21 16:31:48Z
as the name says it changes behavior
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Deleted User
send SDL all bugs u find, we need a stable version to update xdd
Maiski 2021-08-21 16:39:08Z
SDL documentation says that SDL_SetWindowDisplayMode should be used for fullscreen windows instead of SDL_SetWindowSize. DDNet seems to use SDL_SetWindowsize, whose behavior is now different.
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I'm not sure if it's an SDL bug or not
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Deleted User 2021-08-21 16:47:19Z
ok, is SDL_SetWindowDisplayMode new, or can it already be used in sdl 2.0.8
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ah but we only use it for resizing rn not else
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did you enter a call from that?
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texnonik 2021-08-21 16:51:34Z
idea for @DDNet bot , in $points information would appear how many rank 1 maps he have and even maybe what place is he with rank 1
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 17:39:31Z
oh man
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i forgot how horrible c apis are to use
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u can rly shoot urself
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openssl c api is also rly undocumented
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justatest
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:40:16Z
@Ryozuki i'm in spain in october
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 17:40:22Z
im becoming a master openssl c dev by copying from stackoverflow monkalaugh
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:o nice
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TsFreddie 2021-08-21 17:40:34Z
justatest
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hi
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 17:40:41Z
monkalaugh
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may god help me
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TsFreddie 2021-08-21 17:40:50Z
long time no see
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:40:55Z
Walking the camino portugues starting on sept 26
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 17:41:02Z
oh
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:41:43Z
From Porto in Portugal idk how that country is called in english to santiago de Compostela in spain
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 17:41:52Z
si
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:42:05Z
Muy bien
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TsFreddie 2021-08-21 17:42:07Z
ok gn
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:42:20Z
Buena noche
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Nobody appreciating my spanish skills
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 17:44:24Z
Buenas noches
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*
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for some reason we say it in plural
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:44:44Z
Wait you say it in plural?
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 17:44:48Z
yep
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:44:53Z
Ok xD
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 17:45:00Z
xd
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:45:07Z
Good nights 😆
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 17:45:11Z
también buenos dias
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días
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i always forget the ´
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:45:55Z
Ah i knew that bueno dia sounds wrong
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Una servesa por favor
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 17:55:27Z
cerveza
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:55:44Z
whats wine?
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red wine
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Boti. 2021-08-21 17:56:54Z
what
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wine
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where
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:57:21Z
whats red wine in spanish
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Boti. 2021-08-21 17:57:30Z
idk
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:57:35Z
thanks
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Boti. 2021-08-21 17:57:39Z
np
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timakro BOT 2021-08-21 17:57:42Z
<3
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i'm a little sorry for abusing the dev channel xD
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 17:58:19Z
a: buse
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 18:23:07Z
Q: is there any sense in m_VotePos in CPlayer
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Deleted User 2021-08-21 18:23:12Z
😃
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timakro
whats red wine in spanish
Ryozuki 2021-08-21 18:24:11Z
vino tinto
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 18:28:26Z
Q: why do we use m_aActLatency in CPlayer while we can store it in CGameContext
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GitHub BOT 2021-08-21 18:29:01Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4104 Fix fullscreen resolution setting on SDL 2.0.16
SDL_SetWindowSize's documentation tells that SDL_SetWindowDisplayMode should be used to set the sizes of fullscreen windows. SDL commit 72d812852023450b7c3850b8e87b63575df041ee changed SDL_SetWindowSize's behavior so that it can no longer be used to set the screen resolution with windows that are created in fullscreen mode. SDL_SetWindowDisplaymode can be used instead when the window is fullscreen. ...
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 18:30:35Z
i should make an issue i guess since no one reads my shit-talks xd
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gerdoe
i should make an issue i guess since no one reads my shit-talks xd
Deleted User 2021-08-21 18:51:00Z
most questions are about code that is around 11 years old, so nobody can tell you anyway xD
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@Maiski did you enter it while resizing btw? or just casually
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Maiski 2021-08-21 18:58:03Z
I was testing DDNet with new SDL versions
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To see if there are any bugs
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Deleted User 2021-08-21 18:59:41Z
yeah
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but did you specifically resize?
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Maiski 2021-08-21 19:01:02Z
I tested changing the resolution because chillerdragon's problems seemed to be related with RandR
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Deleted User 2021-08-21 19:01:21Z
ok, i'm just asking bcs of how urgent it is
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resizing is less bad than starting probably xd
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most questions are about code that is around 11 years old, so nobody can tell you anyway xD
gerdoe 2021-08-21 19:05:40Z
ah nice point xdd
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will send another prs then
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GitHub BOT 2021-08-21 19:34:05Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
d94f52b Fix fullscreen resolution setting on SDL 2.0.16 - vainiovano 7b3f300 Merge #4104 - bors[bot]
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bors[bot]
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4104 Fix fullscreen resolution setting on SDL 2.0.16
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4105 fix console name of GfxDesktopWidth

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 19:45:48Z
hm seems m_VotePos is thing for regulating player-dummy votes, but can players actually send F3/F4 from dummy and main in one tick?
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Learath2 2021-08-21 20:06:44Z
I met the weirdest guy. Complete consipiracy nut and a blockchain enthusiast. Software guy
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Couldnt for the life of me convince him that the vaccines arent to cull the population of earth
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gerdoe 2021-08-21 20:09:37Z
xd
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 20:10:05Z
xd
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im battling against openssl
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pepeH
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 20:21:16Z
could it be they dont allow to sign stuff with ed25519?
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their tool cant do it yet
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stupid nobos
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time to ask on irc
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Learath2 2021-08-21 20:22:56Z
I use libsodium
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 20:26:15Z
@Learath2 should we use it on ddnet?
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Learath2 2021-08-21 20:28:34Z
That's what I was planning, either that or noise if I could make it fit. Noise is based on libsodium
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Libsodium is fairly low level
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 20:28:52Z
wait i make the pr to show u the abomination that is openssl
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GitHub BOT 2021-08-21 20:29:08Z
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edg-l
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #4106 WIP: add ed25519 automatic keygen for future accounts
Really WIP Edit: maybe consider using another library I added the base64 encoder which I plan to use to send the public key with this POC backend https://github.com/edg-l/ddnet-authservice Currently it segfaults when trying to sign using SignContent, maybe someone figures out why (or ill eventually figure it out...) ```console Thread 1 "DDNet" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x00007ffff7e21f62 in EVP_DigestSign () from /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.1.1 (gdb) bt #0 0x0000...
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Learath2 2021-08-21 20:29:25Z
So the protocol part is up to you, it only gives you primitives
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 20:29:53Z
i cant find Noise
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its too generic word
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such a bad library name
20:30
time to play some dota 2, this c++ stuff rly tired me xd
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Learath2 2021-08-21 20:31:39Z
http://www.noiseprotocol.org/
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Wireguard uses it
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Ryozuki 2021-08-21 20:33:32Z
tbh i just need to fix this segfault and we are pretty much done
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and we already use openssl
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now im confused
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unsigned char **ppSignature = (unsigned char **)malloc(sizeof(unsigned char *));
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this is valid right?
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xd
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meh another day
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[quakenet] AlirezaOpmc_ BOT 2021-08-21 20:39:03Z
hi
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hey breton
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GitHub BOT 2021-08-21 20:39:47Z
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bors[bot]
[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
36ad87f fix console name of GfxDesktopWidth - Jupeyy da59dee Merge #4105 - bors[bot]
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bors[bot]
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4105 fix console name of GfxDesktopWidth
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Ryozuki
Buenas noches
Ravie 2021-08-21 21:00:37Z
spanish traitor
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GitHub BOT 2021-08-21 22:27:48Z
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murpii
[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #140 Fera stepped down as mod
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