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Between 2021-08-15 00:00:00Z and 2021-08-16 00:00:00Z
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@FJP testers asleep 😴
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yeah i just found a big mistake so i reuploaded
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we have a SINGLE tester in a non-EU timezone
06:05
and they don't test often lol
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yes it's fucked up (edited)
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i guess americans dont care about mapping
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no idea why really
06:06
i should stop living the worst life imaginable and quit my job so i can apply for tester
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i mean theres less of us anyways
06:06
xd
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@lynn Try to release your first maps first, and test maps properly. Cherry testing was not good, it's not even releasable (edited)
11:31
And the whole over a longer time and not only for the moment
11:31
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11:35
Unfortunately, we have enough inactive testers
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@lynn Try to release your first maps first, and test maps properly. Cherry testing was not good, it's not even releasable (edited)
I don't agree that it's not releasable, but that's fine. I certainly don't intend on applying until I get my own maps looked at, just don't have much time as I said
11:37
but either way, we could afford to have testers in other time zones xd
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There is no application in that sense, you have to show that you are suitable for it and then you can ask a tester how it looks like.
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lol then how was Sorah added as tester
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Louis want another USA tester but there is nobody active at testing
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it started as a joke i made with him and murpi
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Sorah was random added without asking
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Louis want another USA tester but there is nobody active at testing
I will try to focus more of my attention on mapping. I think I'm more motivated about maps compared to coding
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Normally you ask in the group what you think of it, with Sorah it was not the case, is ok for me but actually equal rights for all
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I just need to fix my irl schedule for more tw time
11:40
how can you not love Sorah tho
boo 1
11:40
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Everyone is treated equally by me
11:41
Except the people who annoy me and insult me, for them I do nothing
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poptroll for tester
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2100 maybe
11:43
But then he's 96
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@lynn Try to release your first maps first, and test maps properly. Cherry testing was not good, it's not even releasable (edited)
I also take a different approach to testing. I think too many testers fail to have sympathy for newer mappers and try to be super analytical without focusing on their feelings. yeah some people might not agree on that but I think it's more important
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if we already have so few people mapping, then we need to be extra considerate of the people who do try
11:45
I think Cherry is an excellent first map for a newer player to make, sure there is a lot of reused stuff but the design isn't bad and just simple parts
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if there was an actual structure to testing I think more people would be motivated to actually test and mappers would have a better chance to get their maps tested and get better feedback
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It is a lot of work with new mappers, it is easier to list the problems and then wait for the new attempt
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we need expanded testing capabilities
11:46
larger, more servers, create incentives to test
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It is a lot of work with new mappers, it is easier to list the problems and then wait for the new attempt
it seems Arrow and I took our time with the testing but I wouldn't say it was a lot of work
11:47
actually Arrow's testing was really good
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I care so much about new content, and constantly get annoyed by people on the test server, aka_bartosz (?) joining always and spams around, then sp someone the rcon spammer(so all logged in people have timeout) (edited)
11:49
Yes arrow increasingly catches my eye positively
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@Cøke why not use the tester only server if other people annoy you that much
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I didn't even know that existed lol
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Bcs i test not only with testers
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fair enough
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And I won't give the pw to normal ppl
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invite to server feature when
11:51
oh wait that's right
11:51
accounts
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when there was actual active testers,they just kept testing the maps from known mappers over and over and ignored the mappers who dont have a name yet and their maps sat in testing for around 6months with no progress then they just lost motivation :/
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this is why a "testing team" does not fundamentally work
11:53
there will always be bias
11:53
we need to involve the community more somehow. but incentive doesn't exist yet
11:54
maybe because they know they don't have an effect on if it's going to be approved, but if they could vote towards the map then people might be more willing to invest the time
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Sorah wasn't 'randomly' added without asking
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we should view testing team like we do developers tbh. anyone can contribute but there is a core team to the work
11:56
but if some can have total power then it might discourage the people with no power xd
11:56
obviously you can say that if you help test a map you have some power, but still any tester can just type $decline
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$decline
11:59
thats how it works now ?
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did you decline me
12:24
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yes because i can't $ready you
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I've been ready
12:26
since day one
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you seem more like a $waiting to me but ok
12:28
I will rework it
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good luck
12:28
done
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$change name lynnu
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technically I could change name here
12:33
but no
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Everyone is treated equally by me
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I told you that everyone gets what he deserves, I only do it voluntarily. Why should I deal with some who annoy me or insult me
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