DDraceNetwork - developer

06:26

what's this

06:26

ohno

06:37

on which server?

idk

06:39

it seems to be pretty common on chn today

06:40

happens during map switch it seems

06:42

ye idk. people only post screenshots with no context and they don't respond

06:44

two out of the three reports says they were switching maps. not sure if it is votes or /map

big brother monkaS

Meh, we really should be checking errno...

06:54

I know an error occured but only god himself knows what the error is

06:59

It could be that fflush returned EFBIG or ENOSPC though CHN1 seems to have a fair bit of disk still

8298 8300 8304 8306 8324 8333 8339

07:08

Oh /dev/vdb1 49G 47G 0 100% /home

07:08

@TsFreddie is this an active time for chn?

oof

07:09

well it is 3PM

07:10

what do you want to do tho

What server has a /home? Usually just /. @Learath2 can you reduce the time to delete th files in crontab?

07:11

on the affected servers

how often are we deleting them rn?

deen

What server has a /home? Usually just /. @Learath2 can you reduce the time to delete th files in crontab?

CHN1

07:12

I removed a very large th file (10G) so things can keep working for now, I already have it synced

07:13

I will check the cron now

07:13

how long was a 10G play

actually managed it myself from phone

@deen the cron looks like it should happen every day at 2300, idk why those hung around for so long

how old was it?

07:14

maybe server just kept running

Ah that is possible, it was 10G after all

07:14

it was from aug10

Last time 10GB was on japan with 1 month uptime

07:15

then it would only be deleted on august 17

ah, we only delete ones older than 7 days

07:16

should we maybe reduce that to 3 days? I think all of us rsync nightly

07:16

Though I'm not sure what happens if a server runs for 4 days then

the rsync can fail because of server downtimes

07:17

it‘s 7 days from last modifixation, not creation

07:17

more important would be to have serverstatus track the disk usage on /home if it‘s a partition

Yeah, serverstatus was what threw me off too

07:25

@TsFreddie "start_time": "2021-07-25T16:30:05+0200", and last modification was august 10, do chinese people ever stop playing?

no if there aren't enough servers

A month of uptime on that

@deen should we maybe have all servers upload their th files to one server? Then we dont have to keep them for longer than needed on the leaf servers and we wouldnt all be fetching from it

I talked with the ppl on japan a week ago to change to a different map if possible, a day later the server finally restarted after 1 month of uptime

@deen ddnet.tw has an invalid cert

I'm looking into it

10:34

mh, expired but certbot didn't care for some reason

10:34

        Validity
            Not Before: May 14 09:55:20 2021 GMT
            Not After : Aug 12 09:55:20 2021 GMT

10:36

hm a certbot update fucked it up

10:41

if your program takes more than a second to output it's help, you've fucked up

Okay, fixed for a second, can someone check?

10:55

@deen I set both hookrace.net and ddnet.tw to less strict SSL checking on cloudflare for now, there seems to be a bug with certbot 0.31 but I couldn't fix it right now, need to leave

why is font of strong weak indicator adapti[ve while nicknames' font not? (edited)

10:59

if i zoom in to nickname - it pixilizes

gerdoe

why is font of strong weak indicator adapti[ve while nicknames' font not? (edited)

take it or leave it troll

How do you guys audit open source software? Are there some tools that scan for maleware and backdoors in source code? What does one look for when having untrusted source code?

11:28

i usually casually scroll through the code and act like i understand it :D i would love to automate this process to at least detect obvious traps placed by evil devs

hi :D

11:36

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3878#issue

Add /team first ! To create teams faster. · Issue #3878 · ddnet/ddn...

So this would be a chat command that put you in the first empty team available, so u delete the situation of when u write /team 1 and it say its locked, then /team 2 and its lock, etc and directly ...

11:36

hows about this :D

11:36

its been 2months

11:36

idk how it work

11:37

i just submitted, but none happened

There are issues back from 2019

ye but mine is 'just' a cmd =-=

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4006

Add /team -1 by gerdoe-jr · Pull Request #4006 · ddnet/ddnet

Checklist In addition for #4005. Tested the change ingame Provided screenshots if it is a visual change Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options Written a unit test if...

Astramast

i just submitted, but none happened

then learn coding

Astramast

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3878#issue

#4006

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4006

Add /team -1 by gerdoe-jr · Pull Request #4006 · ddnet/ddnet

Checklist In addition for #4005. Tested the change ingame Provided screenshots if it is a visual change Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options Written a unit test if...

Deleted User

then learn coding

i start informatics sciences next year :D

nice

Astramast

i start informatics sciences next year :D

Informatics

finds first empty team and gives it to you

but can u explain how it works for ddnet client coding process ? (edited)

what

like

11:40

who owns ddnet client ?

no one, but def- maintains it

Astramast

but can u explain how it works for ddnet client coding process ? (edited)

U just write /team NUMBER and it checks the number, adding strings might be hard

Anime.pdf

U just write /team NUMBER and it checks the number, adding strings might be hard

no, not that

11:41

i mean

11:41

how works teeworlds

11:41

the system

11:41

who do what

What system

11:41

Game works

you have server-client structure

game programming, releases etc

to avoid ddos of motherhackers they added handshakes on every connect

coding -> everyone who wants release -> deen

11:42

or compile yourself

server sends packets to client, client renders everything

Deleted User

coding -> everyone who wants release -> deen

wtf

11:42

so i can code the cmd ?

ye

yes

Yes

and it will be in the next rls ?

And send the pull request after

that's why he saaid you "code it yourseelf" lmfao xd

If it gets accepted ur cmd will be in next release

Astramast

and it will be in the next rls ?

whoi knows

Astramast

and it will be in the next rls ?

it will ofc still be checked

waa

11:43

i will need more info

11:43

is there somewhere where all explained ?

11:44

Explained what

like the wiki but for processes

There is a documentation but i think noone use it

no documentation rn

D';

11:45

i think i speak very bad english

touch everything yourself and then keep it in mind

im not talking about the game itself

11:45

but all that is around

gerdoe

touch everything yourself and then keep it in mind

Can i touch u troll

not in #developer wtf

Anime.pdf

Can i touch u troll

dont forget to keep it in mind if u success

11:46

trolls

11:46

im requesting 2 kicks (edited)

gerdoe

im requesting 2 kicks (edited)

lmao have 7 accounts here

are you asko_tv

no '-'

whew

or am i ?

Well, he is noby deen jao murpi lereath and 2 bots

11:48

weve been too far

11:49

lets re-center to #developer

11:49

I would like to know who do what (release, coding, distribution rights, teeworlds and ddnet related, who own what, etc)

11:50

If u take league of legends its very simple : Riot does everything and none can do something

11:51

But it seems that for ddnet its well more complex

Astramast

I would like to know who do what (release, coding, distribution rights, teeworlds and ddnet related, who own what, etc)

https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/program.htm

Computer Programming Terms

List of computer programming terms, definitions, commands, and glossary.

also @Deleted User btw in wich language is ddnet and teeworlds coded 0-0 ? (edited)

Astramast

If u take league of legends its very simple : Riot does everything and none can do something

What is riot, lol for nobos

c++

Astramast

also @Deleted User btw in wich language is ddnet and teeworlds coded 0-0 ? (edited)

C++ obviously

11:52

If u had ever opened github page troll

Anime.pdf

If u had ever opened github page troll

i know how to do some basic Python :D

and i used github for a project on python (physics project)

11:54

thats all i can do

11:54

:D

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlrATfBNZ98dudnM48yfGUldqGD0S4FFb

C++

11:54

gl hf

Astramast

If u take league of legends its very simple : Riot does everything and none can do something

google definition of open-source project

gerdoe

google definition of open-source project

Yes but yes

12:21

even if everynyan does what he want, i cant go change the teeworlds client on steam

you can if oy will approve it

oy ?

so it's only depends on your skills annd fantasy

12:23

oy iis maintainer of teeworlds

wtf is a maintainer

google it

12:24

person who maintains the project

gerdoe

google it

12:25

imagine using google

12:26

anyway

12:26

if he maintains the project

duckduckgo it?

he owns teeworlds ?

no

or the maintainer can change

12:26

i mean

copyright is on Magnus Auvinen

what make him the maintainer

Astramast

or the maintainer can change

maintainer declines or accepts features bugfixes and does it theyself too (edited)

Astramast

what make him the maintainer

teeworlds creator gave him rights to maintain it

12:29

do you want to beccome maintainer or what xd

gerdoe

do you want to beccome maintainer or what xd

nah

12:32

first i want to know who have the legal rights, etc

12:32

then u go down

12:32

to basic player

does it mean anything rn

gerdoe

copyright is on Magnus Auvinen

but he made it free-to-use ?

gerdoe

does it mean anything rn

yes

reread definition of open-source project xd

gerdoe

reread definition of open-source project xd

theres open-source projects where u have to pay to use the code

12:33

and only reading is free

12:33

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

12:34

so

12:34

we have the legal owner

12:34

the maintainer

then read this i guess? every project has it's license

12:35

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/license.txt

ddnet/license.txt at master · ddnet/ddnet

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - ddnet/license.txt at master · ddnet/ddnet

i guess its the maintainer that pay for the vanilla server

wtf

gerdoe

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/license.txt

lmao give that directly

astramast stop making associations with commercial games with their owners

12:35

how do you think there are so many modes around

12:36

so many clients

12:36

so many servers at least

i know that everything is free

12:36

and that i could create my own ddrace network if i wanted to

look to ddper

thats not the point

gerdoe

look to ddper

ddper ?

another ddnet-like shit for persian gamers

12:37

they even pay for vip there lmao

Astramast

thats not the point

then what do you want to know

gerdoe

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/license.txt

ok i finished to read

gerdoe

then what do you want to know

so if i want to add something in vanilla teeworlds client, i contact the maintainer, and for ddnet client i contact deen

NO YOU JUST MAKE CHANGES AND SEND PULL REQUEST TO THE REPO

12:39

oops caps

and i can make a server for any mod if the mod concerned is free

sorry about that

gerdoe

NO YOU JUST MAKE CHANGES AND SEND PULL REQUEST TO THE REPO

thats exactly what i said

12:40

'-'

gerdoe

sorry about that

.

Astramast

so if i want to add something in vanilla teeworlds client, i contact the maintainer, and for ddnet client i contact deen

but you said "contact the mainainer"

12:40

you don't need to actually xdd

ah

12:40

12:41

who is the repo ?

repository

and also if a change is made in vanilla tw (like a new weapon) will it be added to ddnet ?

not such changes

12:42

because new weapon will not be added because youu should to change 0.6 protocol for that

12:42

but ddnet supports legacy 0.6

12:42

so no way

:O

12:43

wouldnt ddnet go to the next version ?

ask them

12:43

until 0.8 comes i bet

@murpi

bcs no one likes 0.7 here

why ?

colour palette i suppose

?

gerdoe

colour palette i suppose

wtf ?

no good antiping for now

12:44

and so on

murpi

?

wouldnt ddnet go to new version of vanilla tw if big new change in vanilla tw (new weapon, or smthing)

12:45

like a brand new 0.8

12:45

with an AK-47 (edited)

12:45

idk (edited)

teeworlds will be dead by then

xd

?

12:46

wtf

12:46

explain ;-;

12:50

ok forget it all

12:50

does someone knows where i can find how are cmds coded ?

12:50

so i can get started

12:50

and do it myself

what do you want to do

/team auto

12:51

/accept

...

>:p

invite iexists

12:52

and /team auto in my pr

12:52

/team -1 but btw

when someone invite u must know in wich team he is to join it

12:52

and if he is in /spec and alone u are fucked

12:52

also u cant bind it

wow

What kind of problems are those

>:v

12:53

i press f and i dont enter in my team

12:53

so i must enter the fking chat and i put another team

12:53

and i cant enter it again

12:53

so i enter another number

12:53

and its again already used

12:53

and i alt+f4

just ask your mate?

<BµmM>

just ask your mate?

did u heard about dummy maps

Those are some first world problems holy

what

Stepfunn

Those are some first world problems holy

ok tell me better problem in ddnet for clients

Account system

Stepfunn

Account system

do i look like i know how to code :D

trash

Better Ban/Punishment

Stepfunn

Better Ban/Punishment

?

/swap

In the name of Demacia i will punish u

<BµmM>

/swap

already exists

its broken

i know

i dont get your dummy problem

Astramast

i know

u are just a pepega

if you join on a dummy map just write /team (number)

Stop it get some help

switch on dummy

12:57

open chat, press "up" and enter

12:57

ez

<BµmM>

ez

thats freaky long

no lol

no xd

<BµmM>

/swap

just get better at the game instead of letting ppl do the map for u

writing /accept takes more time lol

<BµmM>

writing /accept takes more time lol

no because U BIND IT

btw

also you can just bind your favourite team

just bind a random team number

and press this button everytime

everyone does taht

12:58

that

<BµmM>

just bind a random team number

no one thinked about that sweetie,

everyone did

ofc i have a button for that

but it's just 0.5 sec solution

just dont take /team 1

<BµmM>

just dont take /team 1

i took team 2

yeah, thats mine

instead of making 2 seconds solution with 4 binds instead of two

12:59

mine tooo lol

/team 0 > /team 1

Holy moly what is this discussion

12:59

So pepega

lets just remove teams and play t0

12:59

more fun anyway

Stepfunn

Holy moly what is this discussion

go stream u scuttle

Astramast

go stream u scuttle

murpi

lets just remove teams and play t0

remove t0 instead

5

xd

so

13:00

where can i find how to create cmds ?

13:00

'-'

13:01

#1703

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1703

Make Color.HRHConv test runtime more reasonable by def- · Pull Requ...

Previous execution time: 650 ms / 661 ms total (98%) Now: 3 ms / 15 ms total (20%)

Astramast

where can i find how to create cmds ?

lurk ddracechatcommands.h

13:02

or ddracechatcmds.h

13:02

idr

maybe look at chillerdragon's tutorials, he should have something about commands

it's 0.7

https://wiki.ddnet.tw/docs/ddracechat_8h_source.html

gerdoe

it's 0.7

is it that different?

hm ye

I just thought basic server stuff like this should be more or less the same

afair in 0.7 there is some sseparated commandhandler without making macros

13:07

you just registering and all

murpi

https://wiki.ddnet.tw/docs/ddracechat_8h_source.html

13:11

@Astramast anyway isn't gerdoe already making exactly what you wanted xd

U can even say he already did it

Anime.pdf

U can even say he already did it

then why isnit in da gaem

Ravie

@Astramast anyway isn't gerdoe already making exactly what you wanted xd

idk i didnt understood his issue

13:30

lmao

CHAT_COMMAND("team", "?i[id]", CFGFLAG_CHAT | CFGFLAG_SERVER, ConJoinTeam, this, "Lets you join team i (shows your team if left blank)")

13:45

13:46

i dont understand anything im reading

13:46

Ravie

is it that different?

yes.

Astramast

then why isnit in da gaem

because maintainers should check it before puahing into production, maybe, they will decline this pr because this useless or ask me for another feature

14:21

who knows

Astramast

where can i find how to create cmds ?

hi

14:35

i made a blog post about this

14:35

https://edgarluque.com/blog/chat-command-ddracenetwork

Implementing a chat command in DDraceNetwork

A chat command that shows info about our player

1

14:35

its a series im making

14:36

the first is here: https://edgarluque.com/blog/intro-to-ddnet

14:37

actually not bad, proud of myself

14:37

I need Haskell advice

15:32

I want all possible ways to split a list into two parts

15:34

Example input: [5,4,3] Example output: [([],[5,4,3]), ([5],[4,3]), ([5,4],[3]), ([5,4,3],[])]

never used haskell

15:35

I guess I could construct a range and use splitAt

you could zip (inits x) (tails x)

if you really want to flex map (\[a, b] -> (a, b)) . transpose . flip map [inits, tails] . flip ($) is eta-reduced

Nice, it's shorter then what I came up with

16:12

May I ask why you would prefer the latter over the shorter solution? What's eta-reduced?

16:12

Edit: Nice, it's shorter than what I came up with

Discord - A New Way to Chat with Friends & Communities

Discord is the easiest way to communicate over voice, video, and text. Chat, hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.

The purpose of eta reduction (also written (\eta)-reduction) is to drop an abstraction over a function to simplify it.

Doesn't look simpler to me ^^

timakro

Example input: [5,4,3] Example output: [([],[5,4,3]), ([5],[4,3]), ([5,4],[3]), ([5,4,3],[])]

i can do that in Python

Ryozuki

https://edgarluque.com/blog/chat-command-ddracenetwork

is it for 0.6 ?

y

im looking doing it for ddnet

16:14

in 7 days

i dont do tw stuff

16:14

they abandoned

16:14

us

well

last time i saw someone on DM server was 3 years ago so...

https://wiki.haskell.org/Eta_conversion

Eta conversion

16:16

maybe he meant eta abstraction?

16:16

idk

timakro

May I ask why you would prefer the latter over the shorter solution? What's eta-reduced?

absolutely no reason except that it's eta-reduced (so a closed expression for a function, which does not need the parameter x)

Ahh

16:19

I get it

:o

sometimes eta-reduced functions look slightly more elegant

16:20

e.g. here you don't need to write x twice (or at all, really)

16:20

but it's kinda useless in practice

16:20

it's just fun seeing if you can write it this way

16:20

kinda code-golfey

TIL https://www.conventionalcommits.org/en/v1.0.0/

Conventional Commits

A specification for adding human and machine readable meaning to commit messages

16:23

i just gotta not be lazy and type a bit more than "ok" for every commit i do

16:23

Astramast

last time i saw someone on DM server was 3 years ago so...

played dm today kek

My actual problem: Example input: myKeyCommands = [("a b", 1), ("c", 2)] Example output: [("a b",1),("M-a b",1),("M-a M-b",1),("c",2),("M-c",2)]Got two solutions:

[(let (a, b) = splitAt i (words k) in unwords $ map ("M-" ++) a ++ b, c) | (k, c) <- myKeyCommands, i <- [0..length $ words k]]

[(unwords $ map ("M-" ++) a ++ b, c) | (k, c) <- myKeyCommands, (a, b) <- zip (inits $ words k) (tails $ words k)]hmmmm

what the hell, is that you guys called functional programming? xd

Astramast

theres open-source projects where u have to pay to use the code

That's not open-source, that's just source-available (edited)

16:59