DDraceNetwork - mapping

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At the beginning of 2019 the skill level was even higher than today, older maps are generally always rated differently than new ones

yeah, it's true, but i think that it's better to change rate for this map. it needs way more skills from player than ordinary 4* map

tons of maps need rating changes

Mathan

yeah, it's true, but i think that it's better to change rate for this map. it needs way more skills from player than ordinary 4* map

Nobody wants to do the work (of the people who could do it) and re-evaluate a large part of the maps. I think you realize that if you make some maps harder or easier, you have to do the same for all the other incorrectly rated maps. At the moment knuski and I are doing almost all map testing alone, we will definitely not re-evaluate all maps as well xd

No one even wants to test maps and provide new content on ddnet, so why should we do more and reevaluate everything

09:55

I mean we like to do it, but it's still a lot of work

the problem is that no one is afforded confidence that after all that effort the maps will actually get re-rated

09:57

there's no indication that everyone is on board with it somehow and there will be plenty of disagreements even if everyone wants it

true but it's work that have to be done. do u have any criteria for rating?

It's been brought up a lot, if someone wanted to do it, the old maps would already be re-evaluated. The whole rating system is not the best, there will always be disagreements even if you re-evaluate all the old maps. So it's better to leave everything as it is, and accept that the skill level was higher then today. (edited)

you mean lower?

it's also just a reality that proper evaluation is a complex process and a shit ton of work. If you want everything neatly evaluated ddnet would need like a team of professionals in that field and even then ratings would be still debatable

lets casually rerate 2000maps

add half-stars and slowly change the worst offenders over time

current skill level of players should not have impeded judgement of what a new player was capable of. it's not like somehow players were able to get better at the game faster than now, and should actually be the opposite considering the available resources now

10:28

just seems like whoever was rating maps in 2019 did not consider new players and only considered the average player

If you want ratings to be more consistent over time you could maybe formulate some norms of things which can be expected at that point for every level or something. Though you can only really do that for low level maps since the skill cap at the top is not reached yet anyway