DDraceNetwork - developer

i think it would be cool if we could defer some skins to lazyload

00:53

that way players can still download a bunch of skins but not affect load time

00:53

maybe if we create a subdirectory in skins called "lazyload" those can be deferred

00:54

that way the client could still block to load common skins into memory

00:54

let me know what you guys think about this

00:55

or the subdirectory can be simply called "defer"

00:56

if we want to not be too technical for anyone digging around, it could also be called something like "extra" or "user" but i think it's nice to be transparent like this despite being a bit technical

00:58

OR big brain idea, new directory entirely called downloadedskins but i think that is too correlated with downloadedmaps and not the same process (edited)

00:59

and you could browse the skin db in-game and download them that way, and then the name of the folder is more correct + helpful

downloadedskins is already the place for the auto skin downloader (edited)

ppl keep talking about the auto downloader but i swear ive never seen it

02:16

probably a good indication of bad UX xd

tee -> download skins

plsplsplslol

tee -> download skins

im not sure, is it supposed to show here?

02:19

i already checked cl_download_skins to make sure it's 1 and

02:19

cl_skin_download_url is https://skins.ddnet.tw/skin/

oh the checkmark

02:20

so that's supposed to sync my skins with the db?

02:20

does that happen every launch?

every time someone on ur server changes skin i think

no its just when someone uses the skin

02:20

what happened to the bottom of ur skins page

ohh okay i understand

02:20

it's a bug with ui_scale

02:20

basically dont use anything larger than 1

02:21

cus nothing works for it lol

02:21

rip anyone with bad vision like me i guess

use irl zooz

i do use irl zooz but my eyes are still bad and prefer large text

02:21

imo these should be grouped differently

02:21

the order at least is pretty confusing

02:22

maybe download skins should be in its own column

02:22

or dummy settings actually in its own column

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02:22

since it's not an option it's a toggle

Colo-Colo:

abcqwerty:

when does one delete passwort reset tokens from the database?

08:00

I mean yea when they are used. But I feel like every coding tutorial out there leaves unused tokens dangeling forever

08:00

what is recommended a cron job that wipes old tokens? Or on a new request clear all old tokens.

chillerdragon

08:02

if u use something like uuids for tokens

08:02

or the token is long enough

08:02

its rly hard to get a token like this

08:02

again

08:02

so it doesnt matter

08:02

and u can keep it for auditing

ah no its not about security more about housekeeping

auditing i guess

i feel like my database gets spammed when people mess with it

xd

so its a audit feature to keep it forever?

08:03

not a DoS bug

eh

08:03

you can build ur app logic to allow reset after x days of resetting i guess

08:03

or just delete it

08:03

idk

08:04

i dont think a db row with a token and a timestamp uses much space

space is probably fine i am just too noob with databases to understand lookup times

08:05

when and how tho? (@Ryozuki)

Ryozuki

or just delete it

delete it when its used?

and the unused ones?

ah

lets say one dude spam creates tokens and never uses them

then after some time i guess

and who runs the code?

you

a cronjob or on a request?

on my app i have a thread

so a sidejob

ye

in the app is cool yea

chillerdragon

space is probably fine i am just too noob with databases to understand lookup times

Extremely fast, way faster than needed unless you host a very large site

yea thought so

08:08

i mean nobody aint gonna never reset any no passwords on mi site anyways

ur table is pros user_id token and timestamp, just add a index to token

08:08

and ur good to go

im just wondering what the good style is

probs*

You can also have a hash column in mysql to get o(1) lookups

same in sqlite?

08:09

too lazy to run a mysql server

postgres best

Idk if sqlite has hash columns but it can definitely have indexes which will give you o(logn) lookup. Definitely good enough until very large n

o(1) lookup sounds unrealisitic tbh :D

08:10

i know database coders are wizards but how

08:12

does something speak against redis?

chillerdragon wants to optimize for millions of users when he is the only one using it feelsbadman

Well it is O(n/k) on average where k is the average bucket size

i think redis is for distributed caching right

08:12

i prefer having caching inside ur app if ur not gonna make it distributed

i have no clue what redis is for

redis should have similar performance to a mysql hash column but its in memory so that should help

its a in memory db

but i have it in my codebase already

what r u doing btw?

Redis is an in memory blazing fast key value store

passwort reset for teewoods game server accounts

teewoods

08:14

wat dat

Redis is good for caching stuff too

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teewoods

08:14

i use redis for authed sessions

08:15

followed some soydev nodejs tut :D

i think using redis is a overkill

08:15

what lang are u using

it werks

08:15

i should rewrite in bash

08:15

nodejs is bloat

use rust

rust too hard

i wonder

but if redis is only key and value i feel like i miss a column

08:16

userid, token, expiredate

eh

08:17

key can be ur token

or do i abuse the value to store multiple values

then a json object with userid and expiredate

08:17

thats how i would do it

i see

08:17

hack

no

08:17

its the most logical way

08:17

nobo

sorry 5head

but will u rly store

08:18

that in redis?

08:18

does ur redis persist

08:18

data

tbh i have no clue wat my redis does

redis is a database

08:19

but only in memory

08:19

once u shutdown redis

08:19

u lose all

but since i went through the trouble of apt install redis-server and redis-server & i might as well use it

thats why its good for caching stuff

its an actual server running

but not for storing data meant for long time

yea those tokens are not meant for long time right? :D

Why are JWTs so popular...

some tut mentiont JWT i never heard of it

Why would you want to store outdated data on the users browser even if you can trust that it's not fake?

?xd

JWTs are signed cookies basically. They contain user information. The user sends them instead of some short random token and you can use the data inside the token

08:24

Which sounds like a good idea, until you want to ban people

so when the user changes browser tokens get invalid

oh yikes so redis fills my ram

08:37

i got 86 session tokens already from a unused site

08:37

that seems wrong

Learath2

Which sounds like a good idea, until you want to ban people

?

08:41

its not a bad idea, u just dont store the is banned info in the token

i have more diskspace than ram

08:42

ah u on JWT

chillerdragon im using jwt, i use a long lived token called "refresh token" its stored in a http only cookie, which means js cant access it, when you login the server sets this http only cookie

08:42

then the client calls a refresh endpoint and gets a session token

08:42

which lasts e.g 15 mins

08:43

this token can be read by javascript

08:43

and u need to use it on api calls

http only cookie sounds neat so no js code can steal it

08:43

never heard of that either

yeah

gosh my web knowledge is so little

:D

Ryozuki

its not a bad idea, u just dont store the is banned info in the token

Which means you need a roundtrip to the db anyway. Might aswell get the entire user object

yeah

08:53

i only store the id

08:53

u can cache it

I guess just the id would work. One less mapping to look up

11:43

https://realdougwilson.com/writing/coding-with-character

The Website of Doug Wilson

I’m a designer, writer, filmmaker, & cyclist that loves typography and lives in Denver, Colorado.

i actually dont hate comic code

11:48

cascadia code is one of my favorite fonts

11:49

but i use fira code bolded right now

i use jetbrains mono

dejavu sans mono or bust

i like jetbrains mono but it feels too squishy to me

11:53

dejavu sans mono is pretty nice

11:55

my eyes are just so used to fira lol

rsync over a 1g connection is so much more pleasant

12:16

I should have been born in south korea where 1g home connections are common

(Just observing the terminal where the rsync is happening I transferred about a gigabyte of logs over ssh

)

I have a bit of a playful font as well

12:30

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looks like operator mono but idk

Pff you all mainstream with your fixed with fonts and IDE's and vim

13:12

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13:12

I use LibreOffice Writer like real OGs do

13:16

Edit: Pff you all mainstream with your fixed width fonts and IDE's and vim

nice edit xd

13:20

as i know it possible to edit webhook messages

chillerdragon

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Here on out you are banned from contributing to ddnet

strange bridge bot

@Learath2 https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/ipv4-pricing/

IPv4 pricing - Hetzner Docs

15:50

ipv4 gg

15:50

We have tried hard to avoid passing on these higher prices to our customers, and have acceped the economic loss until now. However, the prices have increased so dramatically that we can no longer do this. We unfortunately must increase our prices.

15:51

152€ setup fee, damn

and my isp still has no ipv6 support

15:53

15:55

im sure this can increase to 80% with major isps getting it

15:55

since in most countries nearly everyone uses 2-3 isps

15:55

different*

BloodWod-513

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3975 Feature for the chat

When opening a chat and clicking on a certain button, a menu will pop up, as when choosing who to watch, it will help to substitute a nickname, what do you think? This will simplify the input for beginners, as it is visually easier and will also help when choosing a unicode nickname, since the shift+tab on the steam version causes problems, because people are too lazy to change the keyboard shortcuts in the steam ![selectspec](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/33897884/127367819-bdab...

chillerdragon: this is the most cursed shit i have seen

18:09

and it'

18:09

it's not even monospace

18:10

can the bridge handle edits and replies yet?

18:10

or is that not a thing

Ryozuki

and my isp still has no ipv6 support

i think xfinity has had it for a while, so my ipv4 is kinda generated on a need basis

18:10

or calculated somehow, i really cant remember how it works

I can reply, edit and see your edits but I can sadly not see your replys :( (@lynn)

lynn

can the bridge handle edits and replies yet?

ohh okay thx

22:00

ill quote the message instead then