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Between 2021-07-16 00:00:00Z and 2021-07-17 00:00:00Z

is it bannable if 2 people have the same name?

no

ok

just doesnt feel good to start on a name with points on it

People finishing Insane maps for others is not allowed though, so it's not a very good idea to share a name

I finished all maps for Starkiller :s

02:11

guess I'm sry

Learath2

People finishing Insane maps for others is not allowed though, so it's not a very good idea to share a name

oh really??

Learath2

People finishing Insane maps for others is not allowed though, so it's not a very good idea to share a name

Do you punish people for finishing for others?

Learath2

People finishing Insane maps for others is not allowed though, so it's not a very good idea to share a name

Delete gruik monkalaugh

monkalaugh

+1 omg

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11:13

how to do this ?

why my screen keep tp it look like so lag( but just 60ms )

Wolf

why my screen keep tp it look like so lag( but just 60ms )

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is there any tutorial for 1 tiles ?

16:07

do i have to hold Forward key when going through them ?

RoyalMello

is there any tutorial for 1 tiles ?

What kinda 1 tiles?

RoyalMello

is there any tutorial for 1 tiles ?

u mean 1 tile freeze?

16:13

u need some speed to get trough 1 tiles without jumping

relykSe

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your friend has to hammer you

tela

What kinda 1 tiles?

horizental

scdnh33

your friend has to hammer you

Thanks

RoyalMello

horizental

u mean 1 tile freeze? u need some speed to get trough 1 tiles without jumping

ṨtylerTime

u mean 1 tile freeze? u need some speed to get trough 1 tiles without jumping

to be honest i dont know how to call them

16:41

in gores

16:41

some parts

16:41

there's tight tunnel

O

16:43

What I do is hook like, almost horizontally but slightly upward, and just do rapid hooks and not hold any directional input

16:44

Practice doing that in wider areas first and see if u can keep urself straight without drifting up and down

16:45

Gores players have a term for this , forget what they call it.

how can we ave 10 dummy onlin at the same time?

I'm pretty sure only 2 clients is allowed at a time for a max of 4 tees per player

Sorry, but you are playing it wrong if you need that many dummies

ok becaus i see a guy whit 20 dummy at the same time

Lmao

16:48

Is it on a ddnet server?

yea on faukkonaut

Mangnite

yea on faukkonaut

ip?

i thik the guy ar not on the serv

Mangnite

i thik the guy ar not on the serv

?

what is a ip

16:51

look

16:55

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16:55

you see

16:55

the guy ave 13 dummy

16:56

and when he spawn on the gam on the chat it spam his name and i see him pop 13 time

16:57

look again

16:59

do you car me now

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its a attack against srv

16:59

normally you can have 4 players / ip

or that

17:01

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17:02

we ave mor bot of him on the serv of rel player look

17:02

see

17:02

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yeah

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why are you screenshots like that?

u mean with the white border? im wondering to

yea

i dont no

maybe its some kind of AI trying to find where the focus of the image is. but how do you get that accidentaly

You must have added them manually

17:14

kek

I think he didnt use the rectangle snipping tool

yep

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I don't understand

snipping tool on windows

17:19

switch mode to free cut

where can i find commands for /team 1 like changing tees or save the game for later

/cmdlist?

thx

17:20

changing tees, both have to type /swap name ?

i think swap is deactivated

ok is there a reason?

yea there were cheats with it

Volvicc

I think he didnt use the rectangle snipping tool

nub c:

just god

where can i find commands for /team 1 like changing tees or save the game for later

https://ddnet.tw/settingscommands/ all chat commands can be found here under "Chat Commands"

brownbear

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17:32

as far as save goes you can do /save <password> and /load <password>, doensn't have to be the same team # to load a save but the tees need to have the same name. You can save, swap names, and load if you want to swap while /swap is disabled (edited)

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ṨtylerTime

nub c:

Thats rude.

Volvicc

Thats rude.

Zeichentrickherz

tela thx nice to know these informations

just god

tela thx nice to know these informations

hey you're here too lol xD

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21:08

Hi, i'm blocked at this part

21:08

how do we do it ?

is there a bind to make dummy switch to hammer?

Why is the position server authoritative? Why not use client authoritative? Yes it means cheats are more effecive, but it means that we dont lagg around the map cos we lost a single packet (edited)

Sk3tch12E

Why is the position server authoritative? Why not use client authoritative? Yes it means cheats are more effecive, but it means that we dont lagg around the map cos we lost a single packet (edited)

i think what you're describing is a model where the client sends some state processing to the server, and the server works out what the best position is based on previous frames + what other clients are describing. unfortunately, since the client is open-source, anyone could write their own state handling code and bias the server to alter game physics and that's something that's extremely sensitive in the community and prone to exploitation

unfortunately, ~~since the client is open-source~~, anyone could write their own state handling code and bias the server to alter game physics and that's something that's extremely sensitive in the community and prone to exploitation

i think there's a massive amount of overhead with that and only feasible if the game was closed-source (which I would not be okay with)

22:46

i mean it's the same thing as antibot @heinrich5991 if people knew how it worked then it would be exploitable

antibot is serverside

yes i understand

clientside anticheats are futile, someone with enough motivation will defeat them

you could have an extremely aggressive client that is very predictive which would cause the server to weigh your position more heavily

22:47

it was just an example xd

22:48

but if the server expects some range of values for any given game state then the model is easy for the server to reason with

22:49

any custom clients could mess with that and influence the remediated game state

22:49

that's why it doesn't work imo

22:49

also in general this kind of thing is extremely hard on performance

22:49

there's a talk about how overwatch implements this

22:49

ill have to find it

22:52

ah it was GDC

22:54

it's kind of low-level the way they describe it but the visuals are nice

22:54

@Sk3tch12E https://youtu.be/W3aieHjyNvw?t=1478

Overwatch Gameplay Architecture and Netcode

heinrich5991

unfortunately, ~~since the client is open-source~~, anyone could write their own state handling code and bias the server to alter game physics and that's something that's extremely sensitive in the community and prone to exploitation

well i guess since there's no auth you could still reverse-engineer the protocol for client-server layer code, so yes you're right lol

23:03

er not auth, i dont know how to say

23:04

but proving the client is the correct client

Already seen it lol my point is more along the lines of why does it matter so much? At least in kong and ddnet. Cheaters can be caught and weeded out from leader boards

lynn

well i guess since there's no auth you could still reverse-engineer the protocol for client-server layer code, so yes you're right lol

Or since positional data would be in memory you can just access it directly

right if it's clearly known

23:05

well, i think it could work but it incurs a lot of potential exploitation (edited)

Its not to hard to find the memory address of date you can control in game. Look at cheat engine

i think the only way you could make antiping more effective is to consider client frames as a source of truth for the server, which as i said before, custom clients could fuck with so much xd

23:08

but it's not a bad idea really it's just very hard to execute

23:08

and being an open-source game it's even easier to figure out how to exploit it

23:09

im not sure if there is a facility like the buffer shown in that talk in ddnet, or if everything is client-side

23:10

or if inputs are compressed based on the fact that human players are normally pressing the same inputs after frames with new input

Might go find my notes i made about lag compensation from uni and take a look at the antiping with that in mind

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