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Between 2021-06-20 00:00:00Z and 2021-06-21 00:00:00Z

heinrich5991

@TsFreddie I knew I forgot something. I forgot to disallow HTTP

BTW does this drop xp anyway? Saw somewhere in code it uses http, but maybe bcs of a different reason? (edited)

kek

how else would those netcafe people connect to the serverlist

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

74bd861 A Teetrader - ddnet-maps

you scratch cat

Can you improve the clan system?, for example, a player must have a certain score to create a clan, the founder can and assign any person to the clan.

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

d3e7306 Version 15.5.3 - def-

07:35

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

8e9459c Remove livestream - def-

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

19810e4 Version 15.5.3 - def-

@WarHammer probably not. it's just a text field, it's ok to keep it simple. we don't even have accounts, so how would you track clan membership?

i just updated aur to 15.5.3 but im getting an error compiling due to tests: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8NZbQ5HWCK/

09:22

In member function ‘void CTestInfo::DeleteTestStorageFilesOnSuccess()’: error: ‘sort’ is not a member of ‘std’; did you mean ‘qsort’?

09:22

mainly this

09:24

@deen know anything?

09:24

i just searched cppref and sort definitly exists xD

i also have a question

09:25

is there a way to pipe stdin to a command somehow, like to answer prompts mid-command

09:25

cus there's a systemd service that i have but it prompts for an option partway

what do u mean by command

09:26

check out xargs(1)

specifically, im trying to run ./TerrariaServer with systemd but it asks for a number (world selection)

09:26

oh, alright

@lynn are u into tshock?

09:26

i made some plugins for that back in the days

09:26

poggers

they want me to use tshock lol

09:27

ill set it up soon... someone is already duping

ofc u should use tshock

09:27

any other option is bad

yeah i didnt realize how important it was

@Ryozuki thanks, will fix

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3921 Fix test.cpp compilation

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...

WHY DOES SYSTEMD KEEP LIKE A MILLION LINES OF LOGS

[ddnet:15.5.3] 1 new commit

37c4232 Fix test.cpp compilation - def-

journalctl just crashed my terminal session

@Ryozuki try again

does this update the tar.xz?

09:34

i guess u want me to test the branch

09:36

@deen it works

09:36

ur pr

oh, right. I didn't update the tar.xz

09:37

meh, that's a bit messy to update

its also probs cached so its better to make a new version

09:37

i think

09:38

(well i probs can put a subtick or whathever it is called)

nah, I'll release it

15.4

[ddnet/ddnet] New branch created: 15.5-devel

09:46

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

13e82c4 Version 15.5.4 - def-

TsFreddie

kek

how else would those netcafe people connect to the serverlist

these people can surely visit https sites in a browser in an internet cafe, no?

two of them can

11:05

one of them can't

11:05

Three of them don't know how to use browser.

they literally can't visit an https site in the browser?

11:06

oof

TsFreddie

Three of them don't know how to use browser.

this is the one that confuses me

Ye

11:07

They don't know what a browser is

ask them to open facebook

they don't even look at bilibili?

They probably just go to these places and click on the game

or the chinese equivalent

Learath2

they don't even look at bilibili?

Probably they just use phones. And I think qq have these services built-in

ah, qq is the monopoly dream

Ye

I think we need you to go to such an internet cafe

But I think maybe the two that can visit https site are still getting mitm since some Chinese browser intentionally let insecure site through?

make sure to bring an oscilloscope and a hoodie to blend into the crowd

justatest

but really:

11:11

if you don't want to visit such an internet cafe, do you maybe know someone with minimal technical ability that could go?

11:11

I'd guess the visit isn't that expensive, but I can probably pay it if that's the problem

justatest

ye cost isn't the problem.

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

f5c2748 Fix test.cpp compilation - def- a79d7b1 Version 15.5.4 - def- c55bb39 Merge #3921 - bors[bot]

11:12

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3921 Fix test.cpp compilation

@TsFreddie don't know someone who might go? ^^

not really

11:16

I'm not usually with kids

11:17

I say we just wait. There got to be someone that knows how to check ssl eventually.

uhm

11:18

my ddnet client gets crashed

11:19

before the gui comes

11:19

on mac os

oof

TsFreddie

I'm not usually with kids

try 2 ounces of whiskey before going, it helps a lot with social anxiety

kek

11:21

I don't drink either

11:22

I must be so boring

afterfx

my ddnet client gets crashed

Try 15.4 from ddnet.tw/downloads

11:23

justatest

discord on macOS is being weird again

11:25

I right clicked a message it deleted another

tbh I thought you would help the poor guy crashing before dealing with me.

11:26

Also irc never forgets

Well I don't have much advice for him

monkaS

@Learath2 do you think we could get some kind of crashreporting?

telemetry time

china loves it pepeH

pepeH

11:48

i wonder how u make a crash report stuff

can be a button to press

or something like a template message, that can be posted by the user

https://github.com/bchavez/BugTrap

12:01

games based on X-Ray game engine use this

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for bug reports

lets just add a try catch on mina

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main

12:01

monkalaugh

+ segfault handler

do steam and ddnet.tw releases have debug symbols?

heinrich5991

@Learath2 do you think we could get some kind of crashreporting?

I was looking at crashpad for a while, it is very doable

https://github.com/chromium/crashpad

chromium/crashpad

A crash-reporting system. Contribute to chromium/crashpad development by creating an account on GitHub.

12:03

monkalaugh

google

Ryozuki

do steam and ddnet.tw releases have debug symbols?

no

We can strip and keep the symbols

would be cool yeah

12:06

especially bcs this doesnt increase the release by like 50mb xd

We should btw even if we dont do crashpad

12:07

We can read windows and mac error reports with it

the function name would already be gold indeed xd

xd

but i feel like its a bug not inside the client, if it only happens on macos

or maybe its some macos specific code we have there

this is the best one so far

12:36

@heinrich5991

Image attachment

12:37

oh wait. wrong url. i'm stupid.

Patiga

@jao on $ready, with which function does the ddnet bot find the most recent map file in the channel to use?

it doesn’t

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3922 SQlite can't load savegame on CentOS

@Zwelf any idea? Reported by Dan_cao. Works for me on Arch Linux. !unknown1 !unknown

@heinrich5991

Image attachment

12:48

hmm. he's gone before i can let him click "detail"...

@TsFreddie what brwser is this?

chinese ones

but yea, the certificate looks wrong

ye.

12:50

also the second row says 360 isn't trusting this root

oof

12:50

but it's still displaying the green lock?

12:50

so they're MITMing in the internet cafe and our curl doesn't pick up on the additionally trusted CAs

it says it may stop trusting it in the future

12:50

so it still counts as trusted for now

So our curl is working as designed

where does our trust source for curl come from?

12:51

not from the OS? we're not shipping root CAs, are we?

maybe the machine has 360 (firewall + antivirus thing. although i don't like these) and it's blocking the cert system wise

12:51

has 360 installed *

Sigh, I'm wondering if we should fall back to http if https is broken. Probably still better than the old udp server info

that sounds less useful than falling back to insecure https

what sensitive information do we really have in the list tho

but I don't think I like such a fallback either way

ah right, we could just allow https without valid certificate

okay, globalsign organisation validation ca - sa256 - g2 is a real CA, apparently?

apparently

12:55

can you fake a cert name? for example the netcafe have a central server that repackage all http/https request and resign them.

yes, you can

is that a possible thing to do

it'd need to be set as trusted in the OS (very possible in the internet cafe setting)

maybe they are doing that and installed the root ca themselves on their machine

ye. but why isn't our curl picking that root CA up?

the 360 thing maybe

we're not shipping our own root CA store AFAIK

that's my guess

we are not anymore

so they (the netcafe) installed their own cert in the machine but still using a firewall that isn't trusting their cert.

12:57

justatest

12:58

tbh it is not so bad to let me keep telling them to use http override on a case by case bases. that part is much easier to let them paste a link into a browser for some reason.

how

12:59

I'll eat something

idk either

13:01

just had some crawfish

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

a239bb9 Add DDNet.tw https master1 costs (10 € covered by heinrich5991) - def-

heinrich do be rich tho

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27572746

MKais

A dwarf planet coming within 11 au of the sun over the next 10 years

20:36

this is actually incredible

20:36

1 au = distance from earth to sun

20:37

a dward planet passing by so close like as if it were asteroid

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and from what i read it will be rly bright

20:37

2031 tho

20:37

poggers

20:37

dward -> dwarf

20:41

Saturn ranges from being about 7 to 11 AU away from Earth. Voyager 1 is 152 AU away. This object is excitingly close and will be fun to study.

Ryozuki

1 au = distance from earth to sun

But 11 au is still incredible far. We will just notice it as a star then? (edited)

?

20:47

saturn is aroudn 11 au too

20:47

its like having another planet in the solar system

20:47

idk if u can see it with bare eye

Ah i was thinking it would be big or good visible since you said it will be really bright

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3923 Command to get to a specific zoom level directly

Probably zoom ? Suggested by M Emile ingame.

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