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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3877 Update Japanese translation

plus some fixes of Chinese strings that my friend found out while doing japanese translation

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [...

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

1c9fa54 Update translations - TsFreddie 5e59d6e Merge #3877 - bors[bot]

14:28

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3877 Update Japanese translation

lynn

if you go here you can just create an issue. doesnt have to be complicated, just put like <10 words for title and some words for description https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/new (edited)

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14:29

like this ?

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3878 Add /team first ! To create teams faster.

So this would be a chat command that put you in the first empty team available, so u delete the situation of when u write /team 1 and it say its locked, then /team 2 and its lock, etc and directly put u in first team number available. I hope its clear ^^" (/team first or /team random or /team empty or /team -1 or whatever u want)

@Astramast yes, like this. thanks for creating an issue

heinrich5991

@Astramast yes, like this. thanks for creating an issue

what do u think about it ?

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

66caa89 Add japanese condensed font - TsFreddie 46f204b Merge #3873 - bors[bot]

14:40

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3873 Add japanese compressed font

I already commented on the issue @Astramast

that kinda gay justatest

justatest

@ChillerDragon.* I've had enough of this

xd

jesus im trollin

18:13

my pic is same

18:13

just wondering since when and why

18:13

wowow message is deleted on matrix too

18:14

cant escape the censoreship now

18:14

henlo?

can't escape the void either

ye veri sad

18:16

guess its not tolerated to talk about the new logo

I'm guessing you said something insensitive, we already talked about it long enough

what where?

18:18

i havent seen a single mention of it

18:18

im actually curious

18:19

i thought i can say something "insensitive" when i use the same pic for years and get all these comments too had to make the joke

well idk what you said, I just made a guess

check irc

18:20

i just asked since wen the flag? +comment

18:23

so? any quick sum of what happend? where it has been discussed and how long its in use?

hello anyone?

18:41

who decided to pick that logo? and why?

18:41

for how long has it been like that?

if you want to talk about the logo, do it in #off-topic (which yes, i know means using discord)

...

18:42

ouch

we had a very long "conversation" about it on wednesday and we're not permitting that discussion outside of #off-topic anymore

idk what channel that is

18:42

but can we bridge it too? <3

not a bad idea to allow #off-topic for bridge, so IRC/Matrix users can still chat without using the dev channel

18:43

@Learath2 thoughts on that? i know you're busy

18:48

well since we can't right now, ill just summarize and we'll be done with it: server icon changed to a pride icon to show solidarity for lgbt people, and many people in general got cranky and used the opportunity to say not so nice things. then the channel went into slow mode and now we're requiring continued discussion to happen in #off-topic

ah nice

18:48

so still

18:48

who and when?

i don't know specifics, someone might be able to answer you later

cool thanks @lynn <3

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do reactions work in matrix?

Zwelf: when fix matrix logo to be also rainbow

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You're invited to talk on Matrix

You're invited to talk on Matrix

18:50

nah

18:50

no reactions yet :( sad

sad :(

what's wrong with Discord in web browser?

do profile icons show in matrix?

yes

nice

discord and web browser (@Comrade)

what's wrong with Discord in web browser?

what's happening with it

both wrong

18:52

but have to admit this electron element is half browser xd

in matrix you're allowed to mod your client

18:52

in discord you aren't

18:52

I think that's already quite some argument in favor of matrix

fkin discord tos

18:53

so sad they banned my acc and did not explain why i can not install bridges on my discord server because i cant get my acc back :(

matrix is idealogically better but it felt clunky to me when i used the web FE

Discord is far from ideal for sure, but many people use it nowadays (edited)

If you give me the svg I can set it as the icon for matrix as well

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@Comrade: also many people use windows or are homophobic aint no reason to join em :p

18:54

oh btw @heinrich5991 i got Zwelf in

You're invited to talk on Matrix

You're invited to talk on Matrix

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chillerdragon

@Comrade: also many people use windows or are homophobic aint no reason to join em :p

yes, but isn't the web version better than some bridges?

has anyone tested mentions to matrix users yet?

18:55

is there some format that would get parsed correctly

matrix has keyword mentions

18:55

u can just ping like in tw

@ChillerDragon hi?

got it

hm

so just chillerdragon

yes

perfect

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18:56

both hit btw xd

i was going to say chillerdragon that you are right about avoiding discord for that reason xD

can i ping @lynn and @lynn ?

i use it for the main reason i think everyone does, which is that other people do

18:56

only the latter usage worked

18:57

i would use xmpp or matrix if others did

@Comrade: i wish i did not have to use bridges and could talk only in messengers i like nativley but its better than the web imo

yes, people use Discord because other people use it

much #developer

18:58

yo @heinrich5991 can we get more channels bridged?

18:58

i rly dont wanna spam developer all day

meh, i mean as long as another channel is not bridged, there's no alternative

18:58

also heinrich this channel description should be updated to mention matrix

the irc bridges were kinda effort to setup but this matrix bridge is so simple

18:58

could slap in more channels

ask Zwelf if he wants to maintain it

i think at least matrix makes sense for #off-topic

he said yes

i think general would confuse people

i would love general

I'll talk to Zwelf

same but we would have to explain to all the people who don't understand bridges what is happening xd

yay

19:00

why

cus discord ppl are noobs

the bridge is neat enough that it looks almost like real discord users

they dont already know that you have to mention by nickname

19:00

i had to figure that out

yee whatever

what about DMs?

but i think it's not bad

19:01

lol

i prefer some confusion over being excluded completley

chillerdragon do you have xmpp?

nah

dammit

19:01

well lynn@pew.im if you ever make one

is it any good?

19:03

it rings a bell

19:03

but idk

i think xmpp is great, but a lot of people don't like it because it's older

sounds like irc

i think the tech holds up way better than irc though

sounds like irc still xd

no it's way different imo

19:04

encryption, more protocol for things

it has a very nice android and linux client

is it federated?

yes

does it have accounts?

(matrix is a new xmpp)

i see

404.city is a decent instance

wait so matrix is xml based?

but i dont really know many xmpp servers that are good

19:05

i think it's json

yea i guess to

xmpp is xml, matrix is json

but calling json xml is probably legal

19:05

looking at ajax :D

but people say this is something really minor, and the real differences lie elsewhere

lol

19:06

https://list.jabber.at/

19:06

this is a better list imo, i can at least recognize some of these https://xmpp-servers.404.city/

this suggests good servers for xmpp: https://compliance.conversations.im/

Server overview · XMPP Compliance Tester

Pick and choose your Jabber server from a list of compatible servers or check if your current server supports all required features.

i see no reason to hop on xmpp when i feel good in irc and matrix

yeah fair :P it would be only for me and heinrich

19:07

xmpp muc for teeworlds would be cute though

I don't feel like maintaining another bridge tbh

i have heinrich on wire thats good enough

19:08

and tbh idk u

you could, if you made an xmpp account xD

19:08

i wont sit here all day

19:09

maybe i just need to try matrix again

hehe

19:09

tw chat masterrace

19:09

if u want to dm me whisper me in game im online 24/7

true

teeworlds is best chat protocol

19:09

no accounts

19:09

federated

ChillerDragon.* ?

udp

19:10

open source

19:10

community driven

i forget how you did it

19:10

ok yes

?xd

unless you are ChillerDragon? no .* ?

19:11

they have different ping

i am ChillerDragon and ChillerDragon.* is my dummy

19:11

be aware of fakers and fans tho xd

sure

19:12

can u see that? :D

yas

wowow i will use so many emojys now in #developer :D

chillerdragon: tw chat isn't even transport-encrypted

not yet

chillerdragon: that's a standard unicode emoji. it would have worked in irc as well

wew

19:14

unicode dragons?

19:15

but ye sure encryption is one of the disatvantages of tw chat but lets be real here this conversation right now isnt encrypted either

https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f409/index.htm

DRAGON (U+1F409)

Get the complete details on Unicode character U+1F409 on FileFormat.Info

not on discord side and also not on matrix side

ehm, it is transport encrypted

oh yea

19:16

ok well

just say "u"

SSL

19:16

i get u r point

it's easier than arguing i promise (edited)

xxD

19:16

no u

do edits work?

19:16

or is there still a typo for you?

yes

19:17

this bridge is baba

baba

Bebe

u mean like FLOOR BABA?

yes

how can i read old irc logs?

this is the best FLOOR BABA song no cap https://soundcloud.com/deskpopmusic/floor-baba-when-it-comes-to

dotqw: https://ddnet.tw/irclogs/

You're invited to talk on Matrix

You're invited to talk on Matrix

thanks

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3879 Use SDL_FlashWindow to request user's attention

We should soon update to SDL 2.0.16 for our bundled libs, but don't merge before this happened. This drops the remaining X11 dependency. We should then also use GLEW with EGL for official builds for easy native wayland support(which i discussed before already)

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, sys...

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