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ChillerDragon yoo, this one is a rly simple frontend, you cant do prs or shit, its the true oldschool git masterrace

the kernel uses the same https://git.kernel.org/

what do i have to bind to /kill ?

06:57

i binded z say /kill it dont work

Astramast

what do i have to bind to /kill ?

bind z say "/kill"

06:59

ah no

06:59

bind z kill (edited)

06:59

u dont need a slash

06:59

god damn

06:59

xd

lmao

06:59

ok

bind z kill

06:59

for real

i understood

06:59

i have to use the cmd kill not the cmd say

kill is a cmd itself

07:00

not a chat command

07:00

the /kill chat command is used when u are 20 mins into the run

07:00

to bypass the protection

https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on-germanys-angela-merkel-report/a-57721901

Danish secret service helped US spy on Germany's Angela Merkel: rep...

Denmark's complicity in the NSA spying scandal against German politicians has been revealed in a joint European media investigation.

07:26

monkaS

07:26

Denmark's secret service helped the US National Security Agency (NSA) to spy on European leaders, including German Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Frank-Walter Steinmeier, a European media investigation published on Sunday revealed.

07:26

bad us spying on us

07:26

monkaS

us spying on us

sry

?xd

i will tell the us managers about your complaint

08:16

i am sorry your service was not satisfactory

xd

this will not happen again

1

oh no, i missed a day

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how to add a reaction to a reaction

Huh, that's new

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heli...copter..?

Yeah, the one that nearly crashed a few days ago

08:20

https://mars.nasa.gov/technology/helicopter/

Mars Helicopter

The Mars Helicopter is a technology demonstration to test powered flight on another planet for the first time.

mars yooo

it looks like a ceiling fan with legs

08:21

i love them

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3865 Search text box in search browser gets text when F1 console is open

Caused by:

b7adc5a690216d56fa8636c5efbfd91a5e4fe07d is the first bad commit
commit b7adc5a690216d56fa8636c5efbfd91a5e4fe07d
Author: Jupeyy 
Date:   Wed May 26 15:01:50 2021 +0200

    Add UI Ex class to share common ui implementations
    between menus and editor for example

god i love using tailwind-style classes

09:29

it has sped up my work so much

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3866 Check if console is open for DoEditBox

fixes #3865

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--...

Can i make that 2 keys do the same ?

@Astramast yes, just bind them both to the same command

11:18

bind x "say hi"; bind y "say hi" Now they both do the samew

yealp

11:50

i cant open ddrace everytime i open ddrace it keep closing itself

deen

@Astramast yes, just bind them both to the same command

thxs

11:51

what is the cmd to hook ?

+hook

11:53

@kiriha are you on Linux? Try running it with ./DDNet from command line (you have to be in the directory, then check the output)

kiriha

i cant open ddrace everytime i open ddrace it keep closing itself

^ Windows 8 Booted into Windows Startup Repair Tool recently, for unknown reason. The game started without issues before that renaming config directory didn't help Downloading older versions didn't help no errors upon crash (edited)

no im on windows

11:54

wait no im on windows 8

it says here windows 8 single languange??

what was the bind for the 45° angles ?

14:03

i unbinded wrongly

we got ddos every region

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

d6899c2 Update hungarian.txt (by Boti.) - def- c6f5898 Merge #3864 - bors[bot]

14:33

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3864 Update hungarian.txt (by Boti.)

@Astramast https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?t=2537 see mouse section

deen

@Astramast https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?t=2537 see mouse section

but.... this is.... this is heaven

17:04

should be on headpage of forums

17:04

poggers

@Astramast you can even do more angles bind

17:06

like 15° for example

17:06

justatest

Astramast

should be on headpage of forums

It is on the homepage of ddnet.tw tho

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3865 Search text box in search browser gets text when F1 console is open

17:16

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

14f448d Init input handling in UI Ex - Jupeyy aa93386 Use FontSize for rendered cursor - Jupeyy 593ce12 Merge #3866 - bors[bot]

17:16

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3866 Add Input handling to UI Ex initialization

TsFreddie

It is on the homepage of ddnet.tw tho

nouis

TsFreddie

It is on the homepage of ddnet.tw tho

so

17:21

how do i do

17:22

that i emote

17:22

without changing eyes ?

Astramast

so

this topic is linked at the ddnet.tw landing page

17:26

Useful Binds

17:26

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so now that u broke my legs

17:26

lets admit im blind

17:26

and stop punching me ;-;

Astramast

without changing eyes ?

/eyeemote off

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/420565311863914496/848515240269971457 why is there possible translation for ISO country name and some name like Discord and even https://ddnet.tw/discord ?

Join the DDraceNetwork Discord Server!

Check out the DDraceNetwork community on Discord - hang out with 6,079 other members and enjoy free voice and text chat.

Those are not country names but continents, used when ping is not available

17:28

For Discord we want to enable different links for non-English-speaking communities

murpi

/eyeemote off

does this apply to other ppl ? (does other ppl will have there eyes off, if not, will other ppl also see me with eyes off ?)

for example Discord is blocked in China, so we link to a Chinese clone there instead

oh, that's actually quite smart

Astramast

does this apply to other ppl ? (does other ppl will have there eyes off, if not, will other ppl also see me with eyes off ?)

no, just you ^^

murpi

no, just you ^^

D';

people will see you without eye emotes

i want to keep my sayen eyes

should i use full name for continents or stick to 3 letters?

oh wait

17:30

it works (edited)

murpi

people will see you without eye emotes

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@Chairn it should fit in the Ping field in server browser

ppl will see this ?

If you disabled eye emotes, people will also see no eye emotes from you

17:31

you can still see other peoples eye emotes if they kept it enabled

murpi

If you disabled eye emotes, people will also see no eye emotes from you

if i swap to my dummy i will see myself like other ppl see me ?

yes

ok so its valid for testing

stop hurting my brain justatest

justatest

cute

17:33

Thoughts on winget? https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/windows-package-manager-1-0/

Demitrius Nelon

Windows Package Manager 1.0 | Windows Command Line

We started a journey to build a native package manager for Windows 10 when we announced the Windows Package Manager preview at Microsoft Build 2020. We released the project on GitHub as an open-source collaborative effort and the community engagement has been wonderful to experience!

the problem i have now is that i want that when my bound key (mouse2 +fire;emote 1) my eyes dont change but when i use emote with shift it does change my eyes

bind mouse2 "+fire; emote 1" The "" are essential

+fire;say /eyeemote 0;emote 1;say /eyeemote 1 (edited)

(btw with eyeemote off when someone hit me i still have the >< eyes)(bug?) (edited)

Astramast

(btw with eyeemote off when someone hit me i still have the >< eyes)(bug?) (edited)

No, I don't think that can be changed

TsFreddie

+fire;say /eyeemote 0;emote 1;say /eyeemote 1 (edited)

Don't know if it'll actually work tho. Since there's chat spam protection

TsFreddie

Don't know if it'll actually work tho. Since there's chat spam protection

not 0 and 1 but on and off (idk why 0 1 dont work) (edited)

17:37

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justatest

I thought it'll get you muted, but if it works then great. justatest

justatest

dont work

17:37

:/

Oh

17:38

Then, idk

17:38

I don't even understund his question, help

I thought I do. But I'm not so sure anymore

17:39

~~I'd recommend giving up and focus on actually playing the game~~

murpi

I don't even understund his question, help

i bound : bind mouse1 "+fire; emote 2" but when i do that my eyes still always ^^ because of the emote and i dont want to ( i want 00 eyes)

17:40

so the solution would be /eyeemote off

17:40

but

17:40

i want that when i use an emote with shift (normal emote wheel) it does change the eyes (edited)

17:40

how do i do

17:40

@murpi end of the problem

17:40

u have 3h :D

what does "leak ip" stands for? (edited)

ok @TsFreddie i think i know why

17:41

if i want to bind s say hi my name is astramast

17:42

i write : bind s say hi my name is astramast or bind s say "hi my name is astramast"

ok

17:42

so did it work

17:43

can I go home now

no

feelsbadman

Invalid arguments... Usage : say r[message]

Well, all I can say is

17:46

Good luck. It's almost 2am here

aaah

17:46

19h here

TsFreddie

Thoughts on winget? https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/windows-package-manager-1-0/

anything that uses powershell is ugly

17:46

powershell is the ugliest shell langs i ever seen

17:47

lets not only use commands with CAPS but also add LONG-NAMES WITH - IN BETWEEN

meanwhile, I, having a build script written in ps1

its terrible

justatest

Astramast

19h here

euouis

Format-Table -AutoSize

17:47

oh

17:48

idk who decided to use PascalCase for a cli

17:48

its like the worst choice

17:48

plus - in commands

Isn't it case insensitive

also

17:49

powershell is really slower

17:49

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Oof

On top of this, writing PowerShell feels like programming rather than scripting. I know that's sort of ambiguous, but PowerShell is astonishingly verbose compared to bash, or sed/awk, or Perl. PowerShell may be a better programming language than bash, but the times I wrote some, it took me a lot longer (maybe mostly because of my own familiarity with bash) and the resulting scripts were bigger (which I think is unavoidable).

>

I just don't find PowerShell fills a niche I need to fill, even though it seems to be really powerful and designed by smart people. I guess if I worked on Windows it would fill a niche since it has hooks into the system that are harder to reach in other non-MS languages.

17:50

this so much

I sometime just use zsh in wsl instead of powershell too. Since windows executables still works in wsl

17:52

Although I have to remember to add .exe for it to call the windows version.

17:56

Oh no I'm hungry now

17:56

How am I gonna fall asleep like this

If only shell was less cancer, I really need to learn more perl so I can finally discard shell scripts barring the simplest ones of sequencing

TsFreddie

How am I gonna fall asleep like this

Try food, it cures hunger

justatest

18:01

I don't want to put on clothes just to grab something to eat

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3867 Updated french translation

I lack "Leak IP" as i don't know what it stands for. Couldn't test all the changes.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSa...

Ye, what is the leak ip thing

18:02

I want to know too

fill me in when you find out

18:02

i think its related to that thing for moderator & streamer stuff

I think maybe it's just whether to actually query the serverinfo from the server.

18:04

But it sounds weird.

yeah, just found out by grepping the whole git

Also I forgot to test, what happens if a unregistered server is marked as favorite.

src/engine/client/serverbrowser.cpp:111:        m_pConsole->Register("leak_ip_address_to_all_servers", "", CFGFLAG_CLIENT, Con_LeakIpAddress, this, "Leaks your IP address to all servers by pinging each of them, also acquiring the latency in the process");

18:05

i guess even the english "leak ip" should be more precise

Do you have to check leak ip for it to get the serverinfo

@TsFreddie the server is only contacted directly if the box is ticked

18:08

this box is automatically ticked for servers you add in the LAN tab

What about favorite

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3868 Give context information for translation

It would be nice to have more context information to help translater in doing better translation as sometimes you have no idea where it's supposed to appear for what reason, so you can't even test your translation :( I have no idea of how it could be implemented though.

Like if I know an IP to a server. And I checked favorite in-game.

18:10

Do I have to back out and check leak ip too.

yes

That's sounds pretty tedious for private servers tbh.

it'll get shown as IP address in favorites

I use my favorite tab with compatible version filter on tho

@TsFreddie Im back toptri

toptri

18:12

@TsFreddie i think that when it does mouse1 "+fire; say /eyeemote off; emote 2; say /eyeemote on" it does the eyeemotes cmds so rapidly that the chat does not follow

@heinrich5991 would it be dumb it favorite server is automatically marked with leak ip. Maybe with a warning?

TsFreddie writing a book

if*

18:16

Just press refresh

there is

18:18

left, below server list

18:19

there:

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@Chairn now harder question

#questions then

=-=

@TsFreddie yes, then you'll leak IP addresses even if you don't want to

But like you already joined the server

18:24

The server knows about your ip already doesn't it.

yes, but it shouldn't always get it when you open the client

I can't think of a UX design for this, but maybe a trusted option alongwith favorite.

18:25

Two checkboxes might be dumb

you can add the leak IP address in the server info tab if you want

Also what about just name leak ip "trusted", sounds less intense, I feel like leak ip might make people freak out about it.

that's the point

justatest

18:28

Ok

18:29

Then add leak ip to server info tab might be the best way

18:30

Gotta think of a new way of telling people about our unregistered servers

you can tell them to add_favorite ip_address leak_ip

is it possible to shorten an emote ? (edited)

no

meh

why am I still here

is it possible from f1 to get the bind of a key (what is binded to z i forgot for example)

TsFreddie

why am I still here

for suffering

dump_binds

and knowledge

TsFreddie

dump_binds

ok and for only a specific bind not my 300 binds ?

Press page up and look for kt

18:35

it*

dump_binds <key>

18:35

or so

thxs

18:36

i have only one key left

18:36

^^"

18:36

after it will be combinations

18:40

i still wait an answer for my question

18:40

#questions

18:40

or => https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/848979103578456124

18:42

i cant find answer

TsFreddie

~~I'd recommend giving up and focus on actually playing the game~~

^

we tried many things

TsFreddie

^

gngngnngn

18:42

so

18:42

what is the bind of the emoticons wheel ?

18:43

ok its +emote

18:43

nice

18:45

can i bind something to when i release the key ?

18:52

@TsFreddie ? ;-;

@heinrich5991 ?

19:05

someone ?

I don't think so

mmmh

19:07

i would try to bind that when i use lshift (+emote) it say /eyeemote off after i used an emote

19:10

i think i will just put an on/off to the +fire; emote 2

19:10

with an eyeemote toggle :/

Astramast

i want that when i use an emote with shift (normal emote wheel) it does change the eyes (edited)

it shouldn't with /eyeemote off

19:10

so something is wrong

wdym it should not

your eyes shouldn't change even if you use the emote wheel

yeah

with eyeemote off that is

yes

19:11

but i want that it does it

that's not possible

i re say it : i want eyeemote off for the bind of mouse1 and mouse2

19:12

and eyeemote on the rest of the time (=> when i use emotewheel)

That's impossible, it's either on or off entirely, you can't have both at the same time

murpi

That's impossible, it's either on or off entirely, you can't have both at the same time

not if i toggle it in the bind

19:12

+fire; eyeemote off; emote 2; eyeemote on

19:13

but it doesnt work idk why

you can't toggle a say command

yes

19:13

i can

and shift can't be bound, it's hardcoded

and thats false

19:14

i just tested

+fire; eyeemote off; emote 2; eyeemote on this doesn't work

murpi

+fire; eyeemote off; emote 2; eyeemote on this doesn't work

no but whyyy

because you'd need a delay between the off command and on command

19:14

and we don't have a delay command

wdym a delay ?

if you execute this line, it would cancel eachother out

ye

19:15

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so it's either on, or off, not one after another (edited)

it only exec the on

yeah, see

theres no sleep cmd ?

no

19:16

like I said, you can't toggle a say command

@heinrich5991 when will you add sleep cmd ?

never

louis

never

twintri

whyyy

no use

yes

and if there is, its for cheaty binds

toggle say cmds

yeah which has no use basically

louis

yeah which has no use basically

i return you to my problem : https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/848979103578456124

just dont do the emote when firing

19:18

fixed

ok nevermind i found

19:18

@TsFreddie i put /eyeemote on on the lshift and eyeemote off on the mouse1

since when is it possible to bind the shift key

19:19

thats news to me

Sleep is a metric fuckton of work for only a few people

idk

I thought this is hardcoded

murpi

since when is it possible to bind the shift key

Since always? :D

19:19

The emotewheel has always been bound to shift

murpi

I thought this is hardcoded

its actually just +emote (dump_binds lshift)

weird, well there is your answer

19:20

wait

19:20

whats the command for the emote wheel then?

+emote

OMG IT WORKS (edited)

bind lshift "+emote; say /eyeemote on"

murpi

bind lshift "+emote; say /eyeemote on"

no reverse

What are you even making?

what reverse

wont this spam ur chat every time u emote

yes, it will

19:22

but can be disabled via cl_show_chat_system 0 i guess

i dont understand ppl that need to bind an emote to every single button on their keyboard

emote bind mark for discord research so :

bind mouse1 "+fire; say /eyeemote off; emote 2"
bind mouse2 "+hook; say /eyeemote off; emote 14"
bind lshift "say /eyeemote on; +emote"

(edited)

the order doesn't matter Astramast

murpi

the order doesn't matter Astramast

????? really ?

19:23

doesn it do in order ? (edited)

yes 4head, no sleep command remember? ^^

19:23

the entire line is executed at once

What does this even do? You dont want eye emotes when you hammer or hook?

The only problem now is my chat flooded with the system eyeemote returns

Learath2

What does this even do? You dont want eye emotes when you hammer or hook?

yes

real pros have all emotes on one key troll

troll

Learath2

What does this even do? You dont want eye emotes when you hammer or hook?

exactly

Astramast

The only problem now is my chat flooded with the system eyeemote returns

kekw

murpi

yes 4head, no sleep command remember? ^^

Oooh careful here, the order can matter actually

how

Learath2

Oooh careful here, the order can matter actually

its important with cl_dummy binds usually

murpi

kekw

so now my question is : can i disable system messages for one chat command ?

we should start kicking players who consume too much traffic by pulling these tricks

justatest

3

The + has special connotations and can behave in very odd ways

heinrich5991

we should start kicking players who consume too much traffic by pulling these tricks

isnit only clientside ?

no

Learath2

The + has special connotations and can behave in very odd ways

remove + commands

heinrich5991

no

ah

it's not only clientside

so u mean someone would be ban for binding mouse1 +fire;emote X ? (edited)

no

no

for the eyeemote $hit

at least not right now. if we add that, we'll add a warning beforehand

19:26

currently no one is getting banned

@heinrich5991 does this really matter though? since we have sv_emoticon_delay to 0 by default everywhere

yes u could simply increase the emoticon delay tee_thinking

tee_thinking

try making a file then paste this in it and bind some key to execute it +fire; emote 1

19:27

troll

its not bannable but its annoying to see someone emoting 10 times per second when ur trying to play

won't stop you from sending @Astramast

ah mh

louis

its not bannable but its annoying to see someone emoting 10 times per second when ur trying to play

when its just hook and hammer its not that much

19:28

i mean if u are in ddmax map

19:28

its sure that if ure in a stronghold first part its annoying

louis

its not bannable but its annoying to see someone emoting 10 times per second when ur trying to play

it also consumes a fair bit of traffic I'd bet

19:30

every single input sending a chat message is definitely not something we intended

the day emote spam is removed is the day i retire

i wonder if u could lag a server with 64 tees doing all possible inputs

justatest

slowly moves out of the room

with some horrendous scroll wheel cfg setup

I need to mash the h button on my keyboard for instant serotonin

louis

with some horrendous scroll wheel cfg setup

use the thing that i sent above

19:31

and just bind it to a keyboard key

19:31

not mouse

19:31

then hold it troll

troll

someone wanted to fix that ^^

for some reason you cant just spam emotes alone that much

19:32

it needs to be with +fire for example

19:35

@louis u find this annoying ?

yes

1

19:36

(it is x2 bcs 8MB max for discord) (edited)

heinrich5991

won't stop you from sending @Astramast

i am not moderator and all but what i think is that if its still reasonable and dont create problems theres no reasons into sanctioning that (theres some people changing their color each 2-3 seconds but its not a problem to my knowledge) (theres some gogoltrad ^^")

19:40

also it would be interesting to be able to bind something to when the key is released and also interesting to bind a key that disable something when u press it (for example it automatically hold hammer and its when u press the key that it releases hammer) (edited)

19:41

but im pretty sure this would bring a bunch of problems monkalaugh

monkalaugh

@Astramast usually you can use +toggle on settings to turn them on/off only when key is being hold

19:43

and adding these kind of binds would be really unbalanced

19:44

we have a 45 angles and deepfly binds already

19:44

which seems too op (edited)

Souly

which seems too op (edited)

it exist a bind to make u jump trough 3 freeze blocks edge to edge

19:56

a bind to throw dummy

19:56

etc

19:56

so

19:56

yee

19:57

"op"

ye that too

19:58

but the 45 angles bind is pissing me off the most

19:58

even tho i use it all the time

19:58

it just feels game breaking

@heinrich5991 in think is nice option add "mouse max distance" in ui controls and move dyn cam to ui controls too :D

Naist

@heinrich5991 in think is nice option add "mouse max distance" in ui controls and move dyn cam to ui controls too :D

maybe not dyncam :/

20:14

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20:14

btw i did it and it works (edited)

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

380e49d Updated french translation - Chairn 1dab0b8 Added 'Leak IP' translation - Chairn d8926c3 Merge #3867 - bors[bot]

21:31

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3867 Updated french translation

I fixed some minor grammar mistakes after the last pull request, but I don't have a github account, so here it is if someone wants to check it or implement it idk

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