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Report client & server bugs, especially but not limited to release candidates.
Between 2021-05-15 00:00:00Z and 2021-05-16 00:00:00Z
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Pannd0 2021-05-15 02:23:50Z
to the bugo screen
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Boti. 2021-05-15 10:06:32Z
in scoreboard if your dummy is the 1th dont show it with brighter when you dont play on your dummy its kinda weird
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Zabenom 2021-05-15 11:27:34Z
Anti ping do not working... 😦 i try set checkbox active... but it do auto deactivate 😦 what i can do?
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Zabenom
Anti ping do not working... 😦 i try set checkbox active... but it do auto deactivate 😦 what i can do?
Souly 2021-05-15 11:28:18Z
thats weird, maybe you have some bind that disables it
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Zabenom 2021-05-15 11:28:55Z
but when i am in to settings then binds working?
11:29
it do deactivate after click on checkbox ... i do not press any key
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Zabenom 2021-05-15 11:41:06Z
2021-05-15_15-39-53.mkv
6.1 MB
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😦 😦
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Boti. 2021-05-15 11:41:57Z
use mp4 or upload to yt
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Zabenom 2021-05-15 11:43:03Z
😦 i have not mp4 now ... i can not configure it
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 15:30:41Z
Hello, I'm having problems with the game on Linux. Teeworlds runs fine, but at DDRaceNetwork I can't join any server because it doesn't download any maps. Also, when I close the game it says that it couldn't write my settings in the .cfg file. When I restart I have to set it up again. :c
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Patiga 2021-05-15 15:34:32Z
@peixepalhaco has it worked before? and have you run DDNet with sudo at some point? (please don't try to run it with sudo)
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Patiga
@peixepalhaco has it worked before? and have you run DDNet with sudo at some point? (please don't try to run it with sudo)
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 15:35:13Z
No, it is my first time trying this game. I only knew it existed today after talking with some people in teeworlds. Just downloaded it through Steam and ran it.
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Zabenom
😦 i have not mp4 now ... i can not configure it
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 15:35:29Z
I'm converting this video for you. Hold on.
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Boti.
use mp4 or upload to yt
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 15:35:59Z
Btw, why can't you play .mkv? Have you tried using VLC or MPV?
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Boti. 2021-05-15 15:36:29Z
no because doesnt take much to set record to mp4 and has review on discord
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and im lazy af
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Zabenom
Click to see attachment 🖼️
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 15:37:56Z
here it is
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Boti. 2021-05-15 15:39:51Z
@Zabenom try f1 -> cl_antiping 1 (edited)
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Patiga 2021-05-15 15:43:02Z
@peixepalhaco your problem is odd, kinda sounds like a permission problem to me, since your DDNet seems to be unable to create files. maybe check the permissions on your .teeworlds directory and the donloadedmaps directory in it. I sadly don't have another idea, hopefully someone else has
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Patiga
@peixepalhaco your problem is odd, kinda sounds like a permission problem to me, since your DDNet seems to be unable to create files. maybe check the permissions on your .teeworlds directory and the donloadedmaps directory in it. I sadly don't have another idea, hopefully someone else has
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 15:49:39Z
Indeed it sounds like a permission problem. Here it is what the game's steam folder looks like:
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Patiga
@peixepalhaco your problem is odd, kinda sounds like a permission problem to me, since your DDNet seems to be unable to create files. maybe check the permissions on your .teeworlds directory and the donloadedmaps directory in it. I sadly don't have another idea, hopefully someone else has
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 15:58:38Z
Weirdly enough, I just tried running the game through Proton 5.13-6 and it worked without problem.
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Where is this directory ".teeworlds"?
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 16:17:15Z
why dont u use the native teeworlds for linux
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dont run it with steamplay
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
PopCorn181 2021-05-15 16:21:13Z
what is the link that sends me to the original message troll
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Patiga 2021-05-15 16:37:04Z
@peixepalhaco that one is inyour home directory (~/.teeworlds)
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peixepalhaco
Hello, I'm having problems with the game on Linux. Teeworlds runs fine, but at DDRaceNetwork I can't join any server because it doesn't download any maps. Also, when I close the game it says that it couldn't write my settings in the .cfg file. When I restart I have to set it up again. :c
Patiga 2021-05-15 16:38:25Z
@Deleted User ^
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@Deleted User ^
Deleted User 2021-05-15 16:43:35Z
but look his message
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peixepalhaco
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 2021-05-15 16:43:38Z
this
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shows .dll and .exe
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shows .dll and .exe
Patiga 2021-05-15 16:47:19Z
true, might be after he switched to proton though, since he appears aware of the point in time he switched to proton
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 16:47:33Z
sounded like he used an outdated version or smth
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but yeah
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possible
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PopCorn181
what is the link that sends me to the original message troll
Deleted User 2021-05-15 17:49:22Z
https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/295908390956433410/782598396908797972
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why dont u use the native teeworlds for linux
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:27:16Z
Both the native and the Steam version of TeeWorlds works fine here. It's just the DDRaceNetwork version from Steam that is having problems.
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dont run it with steamplay
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:27:53Z
You mean Proton? I've tried to, and it is not working. I just tested it through Proton and it worked.
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Patiga
@peixepalhaco that one is inyour home directory (~/.teeworlds)
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:29:07Z
I don't have this folder. Actually, I don't have a ".teeworlds" folder anywhere in my PC.
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peixepalhaco
I don't have this folder. Actually, I don't have a ".teeworlds" folder anywhere in my PC.
Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:29:24Z
u might have to activate visibility of that directory
18:29
btw ddnet also has a non steam version
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shows .dll and .exe
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:30:33Z
it might be because I've tried with Proton afterwards. didn't notice if those files were there before. (edited)
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:31:12Z
anyway, in your file browser find a "show hidden directories" thing
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Deleted User
u might have to activate visibility of that directory
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:31:18Z
I'm aware of that
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:31:27Z
then maybe rename .teeworlds and try ddnet from ddnet.tw
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:31:48Z
my_user@dell:~$ ls -la | grep "tee" my_user@dell:~$
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didn't find anything with locate ".teeworlds" also. (edited)
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:32:53Z
well if u say teeworlds runs fine, it has to put the config somewhere
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well if u say teeworlds runs fine, it has to put the config somewhere
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:33:12Z
Probably it is in the steam folder directory. Not on my home folder.
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:33:24Z
then u didnt use native linux, but proton
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then u didnt use native linux, but proton
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:34:37Z
No, I'm using the Steam version, but the native Linux version through Steam, not through Proton.
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Proton is just used to play Windows-only games on Steam.
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:35:01Z
yea but u can force it
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:35:02Z
(or if I manually activate them)
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Deleted User
yea but u can force it
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:35:10Z
yes, but I didn't with teeworlds.
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:35:30Z
anyway, im not aware of steam just changing your path for native games
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so either u somehow do you proton or teeworlds doesnt save its config
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or u run it as root
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:36:20Z
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anyway, im not aware of steam just changing your path for native games
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:36:45Z
Steam doesn't create random folders on my home directory.
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:36:48Z
u can also run it with terminal and see what paths it uses btw
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its not about steam, its about teeworlds
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u can also run it with terminal and see what paths it uses btw
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:36:59Z
could you please tell me how?
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or u run it as root
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:37:10Z
I didn't.
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:37:18Z
download ddnet or teeworlds and run like ./DDNet or ./teeworlds
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download ddnet or teeworlds and run like ./DDNet or ./teeworlds
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:37:35Z
Oh, you mean outside of Steam.
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:37:39Z
yes
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u can also in steam
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probs have to start steam from terminal then
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:37:57Z
how do I run my steam version through terminal?
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:38:35Z
shutdown steam, open terminal and type steam
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enter
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after starting the game look out for [storage] in the terminal
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:40:02Z
btw, here is what my steam folder of the game looks like:
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my_user@dell:~/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/Teeworlds$ ls -la total 52 drwxrwxr-x 3 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 . drwxrwxr-x 33 my_user my_user 4096 mai 15 12:22 .. -rwxrwxr-x 1 my_user my_user 1724 set 22 2020 license.txt -rwxrwxr-x 1 my_user my_user 4932 set 22 2020 readme.md -rwxrwxr-x 1 my_user my_user 925 set 22 2020 storage.cfg drwxrwxr-x 3 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 tw my_user@dell:~/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/Teeworlds$ cd tw/ my_user@dell:~/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/Teeworlds/tw$ ls -la total 2160 drwxrwxr-x 3 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 . drwxrwxr-x 3 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 .. drwxrwxr-x 11 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 data -rwxrwxr-x 1 my_user my_user 1589552 set 22 2020 teeworlds -rwxrwxr-x 1 my_user my_user 589384 set 22 2020 teeworlds_srv my_user@dell:~/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/Teeworlds/tw$ cd data/ my_user@dell:~/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/Teeworlds/tw/data$ ls -la total 396 drwxrwxr-x 11 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 . drwxrwxr-x 3 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 .. drwxrwxr-x 2 my_user my_user 24576 set 22 2020 audio drwxrwxr-x 2 my_user my_user 36864 set 22 2020 countryflags -rwxrwxr-x 1 my_user my_user 4087 set 22 2020 deadtee.png drwxrwxr-x 3 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 editor -rwxrwxr-x 1 my_user my_user 48352 set 22 2020 emoticons.png drwxrwxr-x 2 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 fonts -rwxrwxr-x 1 my_user my_user 140290 set 22 2020 game.png drwxrwxr-x 2 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 languages drwxrwxr-x 2 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 mapres drwxrwxr-x 2 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 maps -rwxrwxr-x 1 my_user my_user 48753 set 22 2020 particles.png -rwxrwxr-x 1 my_user my_user 1999 set 22 2020 race_flag.png drwxrwxr-x 8 my_user my_user 12288 set 22 2020 skins drwxrwxr-x 6 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 ui
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after starting the game look out for [storage] in the terminal
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:40:35Z
ok
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after starting the game look out for [storage] in the terminal
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:44:24Z
[2021-05-15 15:43:27][storage]: added path '$USERDIR' ('/home/my_user/.local/share/teeworlds') [2021-05-15 15:43:27][storage]: added path '$DATADIR' ('/home/my_user/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/Teeworlds/tw/data') [2021-05-15 15:43:27][storage]: added path '$CURRENTDIR' ('/home/my_user/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/Teeworlds') [2021-05-15 15:43:27][storage]: added path '$APPDIR' ('/home/my_user/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/Teeworlds/tw')
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:44:39Z
the first path is the important one
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thats where the config will be
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now do the same with ddnet, and if its the same dir, that might be one possible issue, if somehow the dir is blocked or whatever
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:46:42Z
why isn't it in ~/.teeworlds like you guys suggested?
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:47:47Z
mhh, i'm not sure, but maybe it found that directory existed and used it?
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u can also try to rename it and see if it wont use it again, but not sure how storage class prios these locations
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the first path is the important one
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:51:43Z
my_user@dell:~/.local/share/teeworlds$ ls -la total 108 drwxr-xr-x 9 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 . drwxr-xr-x 41 my_user my_user 12288 mai 15 15:45 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 configs drwxr-xr-x 3 my_user my_user 4096 mai 15 01:45 demos drwxr-xr-x 2 my_user my_user 4096 mai 15 04:57 downloadedmaps drwxr-xr-x 2 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 dumps drwxr-xr-x 2 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 maps -rw-rw-r-- 1 my_user my_user 163 mai 15 15:43 masters.cfg drwxr-xr-x 3 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 screenshots -rw-rw-r-- 1 my_user my_user 17308 mai 15 15:43 serverlist.json -rw-rw-r-- 1 my_user my_user 1500 mai 15 15:43 settings07.cfg drwxr-xr-x 2 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 skins -rw-rw-r-- 1 my_user my_user 821 mai 15 15:43 ui_settings.json my_user@dell:~/.local/share/teeworlds$ ls -la configs/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 . drwxr-xr-x 9 my_user my_user 4096 set 22 2020 .. my_user@dell:~/.local/share/teeworlds$
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:52:02Z
ah i see it just uses env "HOME", which probs is that path
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ah i see it just uses env "HOME", which probs is that path
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:52:12Z
what do you mean?
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heinrich5991 2021-05-15 18:52:22Z
I think teeworlds uses the XDG standard nowadays
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:52:24Z
i mean thats why its not ~/.teeworlds
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heinrich5991 2021-05-15 18:52:33Z
so ~/.local/share/teeworlds instead of ~/.teeworlds
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heinrich5991
I think teeworlds uses the XDG standard nowadays
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:52:44Z
this makes sense. thanks.
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:52:52Z
anyway, best ist you start ddnet and look where it defaults to
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:52:58Z
ok
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heinrich5991 2021-05-15 18:52:59Z
https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/d8a4c0e2b44b8f1fcbe9791140843ea5038d8e82/src/base/system.c#L1664-L1667
teeworlds/teeworlds
A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.
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heinrich5991
https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/d8a4c0e2b44b8f1fcbe9791140843ea5038d8e82/src/base/system.c#L1664-L1667
Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:53:57Z
ah interesting, so ddnet doesnt collide with tw under linux anymore? 😄
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heinrich5991 2021-05-15 18:54:05Z
🤔
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:54:12Z
i mean for config dir
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heinrich5991 2021-05-15 18:54:14Z
yeye
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I just didn't consider it before ^^
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anyway, best ist you start ddnet and look where it defaults to
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:56:29Z
STEAM_RUNTIME_HEAVY: ./steam-runtime-heavy [2021-05-15 15:54:09][engine]: running on unix-linux-steam-amd64 [2021-05-15 15:54:09][engine]: arch is little endian [2021-05-15 15:54:09][storage]: added path '$USERDIR' ('/home/my_user/.teeworlds') [2021-05-15 15:54:09][storage]: added path '$DATADIR' ('data') [2021-05-15 15:54:09][storage]: added path '$CURRENTDIR' ('/home/my_user/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/DDraceNetwork/ddnet') [2021-05-15 15:54:09][discord]: error initializing discord instance, error=4 . . . [2021-05-15 15:54:11][datafile]: loading data index=12 size=107 uncompressed=304 [2021-05-15 15:54:14][gameclient]: initialisation finished after 3234.45ms [2021-05-15 15:54:14][client]: version 0.6 626fce9a778df4d4 [2021-05-15 15:54:14][engine/mastersrv]: saving addresses [2021-05-15 15:54:18][http]: i/o error, cannot create folder for: /home/my_user/.teeworlds/ddnet-info.json.124292.tmp [2021-05-15 15:54:18][storage]: failed to remove: /home/my_user/.teeworlds/ddnet-info.json.124292.tmp [2021-05-15 15:54:18][storage]: failed to remove: /home/my_user/.teeworlds/ddnet-info.json.124292.tmp [2021-05-15 15:54:20][config]: ERROR: opening settings_ddnet.cfg.124292.tmp failed [2021-05-15 15:54:20][Warning]: Saving ddnet-settings.cfg failed [2021-05-15 15:54:21][client]: disconnecting. reason='unknown'
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hm.... thats weird..
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:57:06Z
mhh, maybe you can create that dir manually?
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i dunno if . dirs sometimes need other permission on some distros
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by default
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or generally home dir
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:57:37Z
i guess..? but why is it trying to write there? I think steam doesn't let games write to my home folder
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:57:48Z
it does for me
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i mean in the end its not steam
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but the app itself
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:58:12Z
but it running inside a steam container nowadays if I'm not mistaken
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and Steam doesn't let them write outside of their paths
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:58:23Z
is steam a different user or what?
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would break many games
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many write to Documents under windows (edited)
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is steam a different user or what?
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:58:45Z
no, but they are trying to enforce containers now
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at least in Linux
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heinrich5991 2021-05-15 18:58:56Z
that's not true AFAIK. ddnet for me writes into ~/.teeworlds. I also see ~/.vvvvvv etc.
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 18:58:58Z
ok possible, dunno
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peixepalhaco
no, but they are trying to enforce containers now
heinrich5991 2021-05-15 18:59:12Z
do you have a source for that?
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heinrich5991
that's not true AFAIK. ddnet for me writes into ~/.teeworlds. I also see ~/.vvvvvv etc.
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 18:59:38Z
I also have this game, but I think I don't have neither of those directories
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heinrich5991
do you have a source for that?
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:00:03Z
I could be mistaken, but I've seen some things at their github...
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btw, where did you guys installed Steam from? (on your Linuxes)
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 19:00:40Z
debian non free packages
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:01:12Z
I don't remember if mine was through the Mint repo or if I downloaded the .deb through the steam website... but I know that definitely it is not the flatpak version
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$ apt show steam Package: steam:i386 Version: 1:1.0.0.61-2ubuntu3 Priority: extra Section: multiverse/games Origin: Ubuntu Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> Original-Maintainer: Debian Games Team <pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug Installed-Size: 4.504 kB Pre-Depends: debconf Depends: libgl1-mesa-dri (>= 17.3) | libtxc-dxtn0, libgl1-mesa-glx, libgpg-error0 (>= 1.10), libudev1, libxcb-dri3-0 (>= 1.11.1), libxinerama1 (>= 2:1.1.1), xz-utils, debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, libc6 (>= 2.15), libstdc++6 (>= 4.8), libx11-6 Recommends: steam-devices, ca-certificates, fontconfig, fonts-liberation, libxss1, mesa-vulkan-drivers, xterm | x-terminal-emulator Suggests: libnvidia-gl-390 | libnvidia-gl-435 | libnvidia-gl-440 Conflicts: steam-launcher Replaces: steam-launcher Homepage: https://steamcommunity.com/linux Download-Size: 1.451 kB APT-Manual-Installed: yes
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I guess mine came from the Ubuntu apt repo
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heinrich5991
that's not true AFAIK. ddnet for me writes into ~/.teeworlds. I also see ~/.vvvvvv etc.
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:05:28Z
STEAM_RUNTIME_HEAVY: ./steam-runtime-heavy Base directory: /home/my_user/.local/share/VVVVVV/ Save directory: /home/my_user/.local/share/VVVVVV/saves/ Level directory: /home/my_user/.local/share/VVVVVV/levels/ VVVVVV 8888888888888888 88888888888888888888 888888 8888 88 888888 8888 88 88888888888888888888 88888888888888888888 888888 88 88888888 8888 8888888888888888 88888888 8888888888888888 88888888888888888888 88888888888888888888 88888888888888888888 8888 88888888 8888 8888 88888888 8888 888888888888 8888 8888 888888 888888 888888 888888 888888 888888 Unable to open file mmmmmm.vvv
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my god, that's a cute ASCII art
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but yeah, no ~/.vvvvvv folder for me (edited)
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i dunno if . dirs sometimes need other permission on some distros
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:09:24Z
my_user@dell:~$ ls -ld /home/my_user dr-x------ 42 my_user my_user 16384 mai 9 03:48 /home/my_user
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is it maybe because of that? 👀
19:09
not sure if it came like that or if I modified its permission myself
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 19:09:49Z
oh
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well dunno, not impossible that this is default, isnt mint for linux beginners or smth
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:10:16Z
write permission for myself would be sufficient?
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 19:10:25Z
yeah should be fine
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well dunno, not impossible that this is default, isnt mint for linux beginners or smth
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:10:37Z
a pretty reasonable default if you ask me
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yeah should be fine
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:10:41Z
ok
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 19:11:03Z
depends, alot of stuff still uses . dirs
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depends, alot of stuff still uses . dirs
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:12:02Z
hm... makes sense
19:12
but usually everything that creates them use root permission, so they sudo with no problems
19:12
I'm opening steam again rn
19:13
even installing teeworlds outside of steam (and I guess also for DDRN) needs sudo permission
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 19:14:01Z
on desktop or what?
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on desktop or what?
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:14:10Z
what do you mean?
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 19:14:12Z
i mean like writing the file there
19:14
or over the package manager?
19:15
i dunno if calling sudo so often is safer than making a useless dir writable
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or over the package manager?
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:15:35Z
I mean, the package manager needs root permission.
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 19:15:42Z
yea
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i dunno if calling sudo so often is safer than making a useless dir writable
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:15:52Z
you are absolutely right.
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but a lot of .dirs are not a good thing also.. but whatever :P
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 19:17:00Z
personally idc, if they hidden in .local or directly in home, i rarely use these dirs to save smth i need to find
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:17:37Z
it worked! \o/ XD
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 19:17:45Z
nice, good to hear
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:17:52Z
thank you guys :)
19:18
all of you that helped me
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heinrich5991 2021-05-15 19:18:32Z
if we change to ddnet folders, we should probably use .local for ddnet, too ^^
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:19:02Z
btw, how this fork managed to get more attention than traditional teeworlds? :0
19:19
this is only about race. there isn't even normal gameplay rooms inside ddnet client
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heinrich5991 2021-05-15 19:19:34Z
you can still play teeworlds 0.6 with the ddnet client
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:19:45Z
I miss people playing normal ctf/dm.. it is so empty on these rooms.. :c
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you can still play teeworlds 0.6 with the ddnet client
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:20:38Z
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm talking about how this fork has gotten more attention than the base game. and how people play only ddraces more than the traditional gamemodes
19:20
a LOT more
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heinrich5991 2021-05-15 19:21:30Z
hm
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I guess it has a couple of factors
19:22
I can think of two:
  • skill differences in the fighting gametypes are much worse, one tee will dominate another if one has substantially more skill
  • ddnet has a "progress" mechanic via the map finish points
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 19:25:29Z
hm.. I see
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but since it got more traction than the base game itself, and since both games are still compatible with one another... maybe it should add a special tab for the "classic" gamemodes. this way it would motivate DDRN-only players to try to play those modes too, since maybe a lot of them don't even know they exist to begin with. (I'm transferring this to #general)
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but since it got more traction than the base game itself, and since both games are still compatible with one another... maybe it should add a special tab for the "classic" gamemodes. this way it would motivate DDRN-only players to try to play those modes too, since maybe a lot of them don't even know they exist to begin with. (I'm transferring this to #general)
Deleted User 2021-05-15 20:03:31Z
i think most ppl just like the tw movement with a goal(finish line)
20:04
gores is basically just hook movement, modern ddrace is a mix of hammer hit/hammer fly and some shorter parts that are hard
20:04
look e.g. oldschool ddrace, its much more about parts
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but its probs not fun to only have parts, bcs hh and hf are more random(in a way that its not so linear), and that creates more fun
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 20:05:43Z
what are "parts"?
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 20:05:49Z
fng e.g. also has this movement aspect
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but its probs not fun to only have parts, bcs hh and hf are more random(in a way that its not so linear), and that creates more fun
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 20:06:03Z
i'm not used to this vocab
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 20:06:03Z
vanilla is really just "own" movement but not so much about hooking others
20:06
have u ever played ddrace?
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 20:06:24Z
yes, a few times
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 20:06:26Z
a part is like getting one spot further
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peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 20:06:27Z
only a few
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a part is like getting one spot further
peixepalhaco 2021-05-15 20:06:41Z
when you die and restart from that same section?
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heinrich5991 2021-05-15 20:06:42Z
but it's about moving strategically so you can get to the flag without the enemy team killing you
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(CTF)
20:06
if you just go straight in, you're likely to just get killed
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Deleted User 2021-05-15 20:07:15Z
yeah i mean the movement aspect is what makes vanilla a bit of fun, but the weapons are boring
20:07
i mean all modes make fun if u good enough
20:08
but vanilla is hard to get in to and shooting without movement is kinda boring
20:08
in instagib u only have laser and it kills directly, so its easier to get into
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when you die and restart from that same section?
Deleted User 2021-05-15 20:25:43Z
oh didnt see: i mean like hook ur buddy through freeze until its his turn
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