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Between 2021-05-02 00:00:00Z and 2021-05-03 00:00:00Z
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PopCorn181
should i do a faily teamforce map
Should you make good map ?
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PopCorn181
should i do a faily teamforce map
f4 + /ban @PopCorn181
08:02
teamforce only on Barren-like maps
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PopCorn181
should i do a faily teamforce map
Better try to create a releaseable map
11:17
Your best attempt so far was this copy of acq
11:18
But sadly you did not want to continue with this map
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Cøke
But sadly you did not want to continue with this map
u should be called Headshot
13:10
would fit way better
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i just drop facts
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Cøke
i just drop facts
the facts :
17:15
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I have request concerning Sketch by Ravie : why is it a 5* novice map ?
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u need some brain
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no i need answers
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thats not what i meant
19:30
anywaysa what do u think the rating is (edited)
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less than 5
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idk u kinda need to be experienced with some physics to figure out the parts
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no i mean regarding other 5* maps
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old maps should maybe be rerated
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deen
old maps should maybe be rerated
if someone ask for what i think, Kobras series should stay Novice
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louis
idk u kinda need to be experienced with some physics to figure out the parts
yes but u can't die by failing something
19:49
u can only die bcs of wrong decision
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u cant die easily on ravillion either
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louis
u cant die easily on ravillion either
yes but Ravillion is not a 5* Insane map
19:54
if u could die easier on Ravillion (tp => freeze) then it would not be a 2* Insane map
19:55
am i wrong ?
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louis
yes
i wait your explanation with great interest '-'
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how does ravillion not being a 5* insane matter
20:02
just because its not faily? if its not faily why not novice 1*
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louis
how does ravillion not being a 5* insane matter
never said that Ravillion should be Insane 5* or Novice 1*, i do not pretend to know how to rate exactly the maps, i just want y'all to explain it (for Sketch) because regarding other Novice maps the rating does not seems in agreement with its hardness
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u didnt answer my question
20:05
and other novices have different ratings because the average skill level of players was a lot higher before ddnet got released on steam (edited)
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I think that if u replace Ravillion's tp tiles by freeze, its rating would increase (edited)
20:05
that seems logical to me because u make the map harder, so the rating increase with hardness
20:08
I am not here to criticise, i am here to understand
20:09
i am sure that u have very good reasons to rate Novice 5* Sketch, i want to know what are those reasons regarding that Kobra is a 4* and way harder than Sketch (edited)
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kobra should be moderate imo
20:10
its from 2014
20:10
and players were a lot more skilled since back then ddrace was a mod of teeworlds, most players were familiar with teeworlds physics from playing vanilla game modes
20:11
so they already knew how hooks worked and had decent movement skills
20:11
however when ddnet released on steam ppl started playing ddnet off the bat, so they had no prior knowledge so seemingly "Easy" maps like kobra were actually really hard and took hours to finish
20:11
sketch requires u to know how the hook works, theres a lot of parts where u have to think about how the hook will drag tees in the correct place and how you can use hammer as well
20:12
so making it novice 1-3 would not make sense as a beginner would not understand the parts off the bat
20:12
:D
20:13
well i think maybe its time to rerate old maps then
20:13
(just figured out that Kobra 2 and Sunny side up have 3* each 😅 ) (edited)
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deen
old maps should maybe be rerated
ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-05-02 20:29:48Z
Definitely not. Maps need a rerate but old maps that were rated by the skill level back in their time shouldnt be rated down, it makes no sense because the maps dont get easier, onle the players get better
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louis
kobra should be moderate imo
dont u think that Novice category could lack of Challenge ?
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maybe a few but imo its more to just learn the basics (edited)
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louis
maybe a few but imo its more to just learn the basics (edited)
well actually when ppl join ddnet they go play in Multeasymap 5* monkalaugh
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yeah there should be a tutorial xd
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or that the first time u launch the game, u get invited or directed to a Novice(perma) server, idk
20:41
I dont manage ddnet feelsamazingman
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Introduction isn't Novice 2* by modern standards btw 😄
21:07
you need to be able to throw and do serious ddmax parts
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louis
however when ddnet released on steam ppl started playing ddnet off the bat, so they had no prior knowledge so seemingly "Easy" maps like kobra were actually really hard and took hours to finish
kobra took me 1:30:00 my first time i think monkalaugh
21:51
and i got carried
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Astramast
i am sure that u have very good reasons to rate Novice 5* Sketch, i want to know what are those reasons regarding that Kobra is a 4* and way harder than Sketch (edited)
sketch is 5/5 because it is a very big brain map
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Astramast
I think that if u replace Ravillion's tp tiles by freeze, its rating would increase (edited)
if that happened the map wouldn't be released
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