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TsFreddie 2021-04-28 02:50:55Z

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what kinda value is the color "value" of player_color_body? (edited)

07:05

can i convert that value into hex or decimal?

yes, F1, player_color_body gives you the hex value

07:27

it's HSL put into a single integer I think

its not

07:29

i tried so many different color codes and none of it gave me the right color

07:29

i tried hex, decimal, rgb and hsl into an integer

07:30

i kinda think that the value is an own value

its brightness is just clamped

so there is no answer what the color "value" means in teeworlds?

also for hue you need to convert a 360 degree to a 0-255 range.

yo somebody help me? how to add member to 'CConfig'?

i did that

value is brightness

07:32

but in teeworlds it is clamped

so how can i convert hex/decimal into that weird teeworlds value?

what do you want

07:33

give me an HSV maybe

to set my body color with the command in the console

07:33

but idk what number the value represents

07:34

then why not just set it in the settings page

07:34

then print the number

07:34

and use that

i also tried that but the color was not the color i set it to

07:34

and yes i converted the procentage to 0-255

did you use this?

im trying to figure out what that value means the whole time

its not decimal

it is

then why doesnt it set it to the right color?

0x84 = 132, 132 / 255 * 360 = 186 degree

this is what i get when i use the decimal 14364987

07:38

it should be red

it is decimal in the sense of a 32bit integer. you need to convert it into hex then read 8bits at a time

@Learath2 reply from Hetzner:

Dear client,

>

I'm afraid, we do not offer larger Prefixes in our Cloud than /64.

>

If you require any further help, please do not hesitate to contact us.

TsFreddie

it is decimal in the sense of a 32bit integer. you need to convert it into hex then read 8bits at a time

and how do i do that?

TsFreddie

Click to see attachment 🖼️

like that

07:41

read the hex

07:42

84 is hue, FF is sat, 00 is brightness

07:42

if you want it in reverse then just starts from hex

07:43

say if you want a 250 degree which should be purple.

07:44

do 250 / 360 * 255 = 177 teeworlds hue value. convert that to hex B1 then, assuming you want lowest brightness and highest sat, then the hex value should be B1FF00, convert that to decimal 11665152 which is the value you want.

07:45

if you starts from teeworlds hue value (shown in the settings), just don't do the /360 part.

07:45

and, as always, you can always just copy the Value in player_color_body

why can't it just be in normal decimal or hex like every other thing in programs

it is pretty normal for me. other than the min max value is off

im assuming i cant just pick a color that i like and convert it into teeworlds language

in teeworlds or in other programs?

07:49

you can just pick a color in teeworlds and use that

07:49

if you pick color from outside world, the only limitation is brightness which must be above 50% iirc.

so in teeworlds the color brightness is 50-100%?

yes

07:50

0 is 50% and 255 is 100%

oh i didnt knew that

for hue 0 is 0degree and 255 is 360 degree

fokkonaut

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3794 Switch layer UNUSED tiles

A few updates ago I was able to place unused switch layer tiles (I used the three spawn tile indices). These were the only ones that were placable. Now EVEN THESE got removed. Could we please get them back or could we get allowed to place all switch indices when UNUSED is activated? My mod relies on it, I am using switch layer because it has so many options with delay and number.

Comrade

@Learath2 reply from Hetzner:

Dear client,

>

I'm afraid, we do not offer larger Prefixes in our Cloud than /64.

>

If you require any further help, please do not hesitate to contact us.

You have a cloud server, hm I wonder if it's different for my dedicated

https://streamable.com/ty6wnm

09:00

finally got console working for teams justatest

@TsFreddie you are going so fast

09:03

probably need to put the commands behind votes. but now i need to make votes for teams.

Q: Why are you making this?

i actually don't know

09:05

was making a 1v1 server for our fng players. but got side tracked

I mean it's a very cute idea, but I think it's only interesting to us developer folk seeing that it is actually possible to create new gameworlds and gamecontrollers

09:07

(I wasn't really sure these were (atleast trivially) possible because of all the spaghetti we have lying around)

i squashed them and made lasagna instead.

09:09

but the end goal is probably just to eliminate pvp players fighting for empty servers.

09:11

and i probably need a mega map that has all standard and fng maps in it which makes me question myself why am I doing this too.

Hm, you also want to load multiple maps into memory>

09:14

?

maybe

Or are you going to shove all of it into one huge map and teleport people?

teleport should be fine tbh

09:14

showothers would work more nicely

multiple maps I tried before, it's actually very unpleasant

if i want multiple maps, i should've just get rid of teams and make a proxy server that connect multiple servers or something

yes

in the end i might just host one map per server.

09:23

mega map is much cooler tho

do mega map

does separate gameworlds and gamecontroller allow for easier multithreading?

Good question, I'd think so

09:25

but only god knows how threadsafe the code is since no one thought about this usecase

oops, didn't make any thread consideration while coding this.

Learath2

but only god knows how threadsafe the code is since no one thought about this usecase

if only tw was made in rust monkalaugh

I'm sure it does things like accessing the gamecontext all willy nilly

"fearless concurrency" BASED

well not really fearless until all variables are atomic

i dont think its worth anyway

09:26

unless we go further than 64p

09:26

the bottleneck is the network anywasy

Oh god, I debugged something awful last week

also our vps only have 2 cores?

09:27

idk

I had 2 threads accessing a float that I thought was atomic, they kept producing some values that were so far out that I thought it was garbage data

if i don't need showothers, i can change to more than 64p pretty easily with my current setup.

Apparently they were both writing at the same time...

(i think)

c++

09:27

or c

09:28

man its so long since u dont touch c++ code

@TsFreddie sure, you can also just not send tees outside of your team

@Learath2 do u find ugly the coat and cin stuff too?

09:28

i find it rly ugly idk why

09:28

for printing

09:28

c++ is an abomination BASED

Also I get to remove tons of team related stuff in entities which cleaned up the code pretty significantly i would say.

09:30

Magic

@Learath2

c++
inline string
secret_function(int __val)
{
    const bool __neg = __val < 0;
    const unsigned __uval = __neg ? (unsigned)~__val + 1u : __val;
    const auto __len = __detail::__to_chars_len(__uval);
    string __str(__neg + __len, '-');
    __detail::__to_chars_10_impl(&__str[__neg], __len, __uval);
    return __str;
}

peak c++ beutifulness

I mean remove all the cancer inducing __ and you get something that's much less awful

wonder who wrote it?

09:31

its in the std

ah

09:31

I still don't get why they use so many __

09:32

We have namespaces in C++, this ain't C

~~for fun~~

@Learath2 they use __ cuz

09:33

the reason variables are beginning with __ is macros. If user defines isNegative macro, it will get overwritten in the std, however user is forbidden to define macros starting with __ , as the wise people of reddit comment section suggested.

09:33

https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/h0flxv/why_is_std_implementation_so_damn_ugly/

r/cpp - Why is std implementation so damn ugly?

212 votes and 207 comments so far on Reddit

Ah macros, true

rust macros must be called with a ! at the end

09:34

i guess this is how they avoid this

The segment of code you sent reminded me of a talk

09:36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P_kbF0EbZM

CppCon

Stephan T. Lavavej “Floating-Point ＜charconv＞: Making Your Code 10x...

09:36

Not really related very closely, just reminded me of it

09:37

it's the __to_chars_len that made me think of it. Maybe it indeed is part of <charconv>

Just realized I haven't gone out for so long I don't remember where is my key.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16645/amd-reports-q1-2021-earnings-firing-on-all-cylinders proof the actual issue with gpu shortage is that ppl buy way more than expected, due to covid

AMD Reports Q1 2021 Earnings: Firing on All Cylinders and Setting R...

09:38

@Ryozuki well it's a demand issue which caused a supply issue which is not really easy to solve at all

from $162M to $1781M*

09:38

in earnings

Learath2

@Ryozuki well it's a demand issue which caused a supply issue which is not really easy to solve at all

yeah

09:39

but most ppl thought it was a shortage due to covid restricting commerce and stuff

From what I gather there are like 2 companies that produce chips this thin and they are TSMC and Samsung

but its actually ppl buying too much

Ryozuki

but its actually ppl buying too much

I also have to wonder if it has sth to do with people using bots to buy all the stock

there is also a crypto boom

09:40

when it crashes we will be able to buy gpus at rly low price

09:40

It used to be that there would be more physical stock at physical retailers where people couldn't just ask for 50 cards, so normal consumers got their cards and the demand levelled out when scalpers had no one to sell to

09:41

this gpu

09:41

doesnt cost 1750

09:41

its msrp is like 600 iirc

09:41

market is crazy

I have a gtx1080 lying around doing nothing

Learath2

I also have to wonder if it has sth to do with people using bots to buy all the stock

yeah, but a sell is a sell the company profits whoever buys it

This ps5 doesn't cost 800e

Ryozuki

yeah, but a sell is a sell the company profits whoever buys it

Which is why companies actually have no reason to ever fix this

Learath2

Which is why companies actually have no reason to ever fix this

they have a reason to upper they supply

09:43

because they will be able to sell more

They will make more to sell more, but they don't care that people have to pay 2 times the msrp

they already planning an expansion but it takes lot of time

Found my key. I'm out. Brb

Learath2

They will make more to sell more, but they don't care that people have to pay 2 times the msrp

the company doesnt sell at 2 times msrp, the company sells at msrp

09:43

its the scalpers

09:43

so they dont profit 2x times

09:44

they just sell all their stock

09:44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1z4XqEkSEU

Linus Tech Tips

You Don't Need a Graphics Card!

09:44

Ryozuki

they already planning an expansion but it takes lot of time

TSMC is building a new 2.5b$ plant in arizona, Samsung is building a 10b$ plant in texas. Both scheduled to finish around 2024

i have this gpu, i bought it at 250€ more or less

09:45

i would sell my gpu if my cpu had an integrated gpu

Ryozuki

the company doesnt sell at 2 times msrp, the company sells at msrp

I know, I literally meant what I said, they don't care that YOU pay 2x msrp. The only reason they want to make more is to sell more

09:46

(It might be profitable to keep it juuuust at the edge of demand btw, if you don't satisfy all the demand more scalpers will buy and you can get a nice sweet wad of extra cash from all the scalpers holding the bag at the very end)

I'm back

Do we still need Novice Perm since I notice that most Perm servers are empty while there are many normal novice servers? Those selected maps in perm servers are not enough, shall we put normal map pools in perms? Those perm servers are wasted. Also, I am stuck in finding empty servers with low ping as they are full of novices (usually 6 out of 8 are novice, but only 1~3players in each). It would be very nice to restrict numbers of novice servers(maybe 4 out of 8? I think half is a lot since the game has entered steam for half a year and most players are no longer newbie).

Wouldn't it make more sense to have perma novice servers in the future? When most players move to harder maps, we still want to keep some novice servers around for the newcomers

11:22

for chn servers I can reduce them to half

11:22

for other locations we have no problem to just run more normal servers when none are empty

I see. That makes sense, but no longer pertain for now. You can pick randomly in a day and find out perm servers no longer have players

11:23

I suggest we can make novice type as perm type which can not vote to others and others can not vote to novice

11:24

Selected maps seem not enough for them. They are playing in normal novice

but the normal novice maps are too hard for real newcomers

11:25

that's why we have the special selection of perma novice

Just right this moment, type "Novice" in searching bar, only normal novice servers have players because even newbies choose servers where there are many players.

11:27

I think this is reasonable. They should be playing toghther to have fun as newcomers can not play on theirselves

ok, I'll reduce perma novice by half globally

I have been observing for days to have this suggestion. I just can not find players in perm servers with those limited maps. Newcomers grow quickly as we expect

but the empty perma novice servers don't hurt, except on CHN

11:30

and if we get another bunch of new players, the perma novice servers are usefl

I see

I agree with both of you, perma is underplayed for sure. Cutting them in half would be a good idea.

11:33

Maybe we should explain better how to vote / what the best maps to play for beginners are. If possible... I don't think having perma servers alone accomplishes that. Though, to be fair, I don't know how the new player experience is currently, so maybe that's already handled. (edited)

Selected maps should be list in order of stars instead of alphabetics. Also, most of the time, I wish it is globally listed in order of stars.. Is there any advantage of lexicographical order?

11:49

I use search function in vote to achieve that (type 2/5 would selected every 2 stars map which is good). Not a big deal but this can be great if hard coded with tabs. I guess not many people know this

It's the name of the servers, Perma doesn't really mean anything to anyone

12:14

It's technically something like "Beginner" and it should probably be the initial filter on the client instead of "Novice"

6

deen is fearing some locations will be totally empty if we use a different filter on first startup

better solution is to do something like "Tutorial maps" but don't add that to the filter, just something new players will see

18:47

and they will probably be drawn towards it

people likes to go to servers with more players

maybe we stop approving novice maps that are not noob-friendly

18:57

or make yet another category

no one would play it though, so goes against what you're saying

18:58

only noobs would play it

~~make category filters into tabs~~

19:00

no

more like column

19:00

unless that's what you mean

~~put perma in a standalone tab~~

a difficulty column that has a custom sort for difficulty

19:01

any non-matched difficulty names are pushed to the bottom, alpha order

That's actually not a bad idea.

19:01

But we then need to deal with a three way sort

for servers that implement the difficulty value

19:01

meh, really simple

19:01

check full string match first

19:01

then sort alpha

The two key sort is already quite confusing for some pkayers

19:02

Visually

i think there shouldn't be a limit on it, and there should be support for selecting what to sort first

19:03

i understand that's more difficult though

my web tw browser does two key sort based on the order you clicked the tab. But that's a bit confusing too.

19:04

maybe numbers or labels

19:06

to remove all sort

@Iza @TsFreddie you can give color settings with $

22:16

$rrggbb I think

22:16

in hex

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3795 Teams are not shown in demo viewer anymore

Fails with this message on any client version when playing, so the problem is probably the recording: [2021-04-29 00:31:51][client]: dropped weird message 'invalid' (0), failed on '(type out of range)'

@Learath2 when can we move teams state to ddnetplayer? sucks with 128p support otherwise xd