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c4fc89c M Multeasymap, M Qwertz - ddnet-maps

what about hosting tournaments on a separate server that's not accessible over IPv4?

10:06

rip ddosers

10:08

too bad modern internet still relies on protocols that were designed 40 years ago when only a few computers were connected to the "internet"

@Comrade many ISPs don't provide ipv6 yet. I couldn't even connect to the tournament server myself

you should blame your ISP hard then

10:09

it's 2021!

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but maybe this is the reason why IPv6 internet is still clean

I think you haven't interacted with many ISPs if you think they'll react to that

well, i used tunneled IPv6 for a few years until my ISP finally implemented it

10:11

but they did it

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the only problem is that their IPv6 connectivity got broken a few months ago and they still haven't fixed it...

10:13

maybe i'm the only customer that spams their support with that so they don't really care probably (edited)

10:13

so back to tunnel....

i dont have ipv6 either

you should try it

10:55

no malicious SSH connections there

10:56

you don't need to worry about SSH server on default port being available from internet

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it's like a dream compared to IPv4

@Comrade go add ipv6 support to ddnet then

11:51

oh wait or does ipv6 work already?

yes it does i think

11:52

lazy internet providers are the problem

well if it was widley adopted it would also be the same amount of attacks there xd

who knows

11:54

scanning whole IPv6 address space to get some vulnerable devices for your botnet sounds pretty insane

yea

11:54

in web

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or like iot

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or ssh

11:55

or what am i talking xd

11:55

i mean it doesnt help in tw since the address is known

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but sure maybe it has some advantages im all in for trying it out.

if everything is configured correctly, massive attacks are not possible

12:04

IPv4 internet is old and many networks are not configured correctly there

12:04

but with IPv6 there's a chance that it will get better

@Comrade well ipv6 has its advantages and issues too

12:33

like theorically by default all your devices are visible from internet

you think NAT makes networks more secure?

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i think it's a big myth

no, but it's better at least

12:35

better than nothing as we can say :p

NAT != firewall

ik lmao

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But by default on most of isps your internal devices aren't accessible from outside, only if someone does the bad move to open a port for a specific device

12:37

that's why, better than nothing at least

what if random unpredictable addresses in IPv6 are much better than some crappy NAT?

12:38

my computer gets random public IPv6 address (the lower 64 bits) every time i power it on

12:38

(well, not now because my provider screwed up IPv6 in their network

)

well won't hide your IP if you go on a shit website or game server

and how NAT prevents shit websites from running malicious JS code on my computer?

lol this is a browser application issue

12:40

and noscript helps

most modern websites don't work without JS unfortunately, but that's another story

well with noscript at least it's not automatically executed lmao

im all for ipv6 i just cant use it cuz my isp doesnt have it

you can then accept

my vps has ipv6 tho

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https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

@Ryozuki you can use your VPS to get IPv6 connectivity if the hosting gives your more addresses (they should)

12:44

i'm doing that right now

12:44

because my ISP is piece of trash

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i have a /64

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i guess i can use 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 ips (edited)

12:46

the power of modern tech

yes

12:47

my VPS has /64 prefix too

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ideal situation is when they give you /56 for example, so you can leave one /64 on your VPS and route another /64 to your home network over some VPN

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and everything will work as intended

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random addresses etc

I think they really should have stuck to the initial /48 assignments per end user, that'd have given us so much flexibility

server hostings definitely should provide more than one /64

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however home connection is a different story

13:45

a single /64 is often enough there, but not always

13:46

i think /56 (or even /60) is a good compromise

13:52

it would be really nice if everyone could have:

one /64 prefix for guest WiFi
one /64 prefix for IoT devices
one /64 prefix for home VPN
one /64 prefix for everything else

13:52

each of these in separate VLAN under different firewall rules

13:53

networking done right

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3793 Don't count disconnected (timeout protected) players in server browser

They show a false view of the number of active players.

@Comrade with the sheer amount of ips we have I agree that more than a /64 should have been provided to homes

16:32

we have like 4 billion /56s in just one /24, no point in making these small assignments imo

yes, assigning only a single /64 to end user should be illegal

I've heard of ISPs considering assigning /112s...

16:46

Luckily network equipment vendors and RIPE stepped in to stop them from breaking autoconfiguration which is almost like the most useful thing about ipv6

yes, some people get IPv6 wrong

16:49

everyone is used to ADDRESS:PORT (32+16 bit ID), but in IPv6 it's more like NETWORK:DEVICE:PORT (64+64+16 bit ID)

I wonder if we'll ever get a decent amount of ipv6 adoption

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it's been stagnating for so long

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india leading the world with a mere 55% adoption :/

if IPv4 global routing table gets larger than most backbone routers can handle, IPv4 dies finally

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hopefully

hetzner only gives a /64 to servers so I can't have a subnet for my own either

check https://tunnelbroker.net/

eeeh I don't think I'd want a tunnelbroker idk in the middle

you can get your own /48 there for free

17:03

and they have servers in many countries

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but you should have your own public IPv4 address if you want to use that

you can't even order an extra /64 at hetzner...

heinrich5991: Are you coming back to tw?

Learath2

you can't even order an extra /64 at hetzner...

have you tried contacting their support?

Not yet, I will give them a mail just to ask

17:16

They give /56s with their colocation slots maybe they can do me a solid and gimme another /64 for free

i have one server at Hetzner too, so let's ask them

or I don't really mind paying a couple cents extra per month tbf

yo somebody wanna help me? so i wanna learn how to code in ddnet, and i know this is a c++ language, so i learn but not this is the problem. when i wanna compile ddnet.server i got a error:

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how to fix it?

You picked the wrong target to launch

what can i do

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The third one, without (Install) is the correct one

now i got this :/

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timakro[m]: you mean "are you playing some ddnet again?"

17:41

yes

heinrich5991: I mean the map we were just on when you were afk

17:42

but we continued without you

yes :)

but you can also answer the other question :D

well, I don't feel like I've been away from ddnet development

playing i mean ^^

916mate

now i got this :/

somebody wanna help me please? i really want to learn

how did you get there? what did you do?

17:47

I'm not hopeful that I'll figure out why this doesn't work, unfortunately :/

so first of all, i tried this normal teeworlds and its working, now i want this with ddnet client and i watched chillerdragon video: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2pFajc0PYg) and i want to execute/compile the ddnet server, and i got this

Teeworlds programming #003 - admin commands loops and if statements

916mate

now i got this :/

(and i got this)

sorry, I don't know how to fix that

17:57

it's hard to find something on the internet about this

17:57

I guess you already tried deleting the project and generating it again?

heinrich5991

I guess you already tried deleting the project and generating it again?

yes i tried

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ddnet.exe is working if i compile

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so

yo somebody help me where can i test messages in client.cpp?

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or i create a new void?

what kind of messages in client.cpp? chat messages?

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I don't know what void means in that context

yes!

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i just want a hello world

where should the hello world display?

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you can do dbg_msg("hello", "world"); to display it in the black console window

heinrich5991

where should the hello world display?

thank you! :D

19:36

i wanted to display in console, and chat

anyone know of a utility to quickly measure something in px across your screen

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without taking a screenshot and checking the size of it lol

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