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what is the default gravity value in teeworlds

0.5

ye just found the movement page in the wiki

07:21

thxs

07:21

^^

07:21

i have question

07:22

if im on platform and i press d i will reach speed 10 in 5sec, then i continue running with d but i fall of platform

07:22

do i :

07:22

1) keep my 10 speed

07:22

2) speed is set immediately to 5

07:23

3) speed decrease from 10 to 5 with rate of x (x = ?) (edited)

07:23

https://wiki.ddnet.tw/wiki/Movement

Movement

Gravitation: Every tick the acceleration of 0.5 is added to the y velocity (downwards).

07:23

heres the shiny site

07:25

also

07:26

its 50ticks/s right ?

Hem, can't help you on this problem monkalaugh

DarkOort

Hem, can't help you on this problem monkalaugh

wheres the game physics tee expert ? (edited)

Idk

wait

07:31

i remember that in the game u can activate a minecraft-f3-like key and see the real-time-speed etc (edited)

Astramast

1) keep my 10 speed

this :)

Patiga

this :)

i dont decelerate ?

no, you don't decelerate unless you stop holding the d key

ok

07:35

@Patiga also

07:35

the "velocity"

07:35

its in tiles/sec ?

07:36

bcs it just say 10

07:37

bcs after theres a speed in sub-tiles/tick so... :/

yeah, velocity is in sub-tiles/tick

07:38

1 tile is 32 sub-tiles

07:38

one second is 50 ticks

Patiga

1 tile is 32 sub-tiles

wait

07:40

07:41

5.69 tiles = 182.08 sub-tiles..... (edited)

07:41

theres a distance unit under sub-tiles ?

no

07:42

i don't understand how you get such a high value, but yes, this is not in subtiles, but purely in tiles

07:43

usually we used used tiles#sub-tiles, but apparently it's not everywhere

Astramast

i remember that in the game u can activate a minecraft-f3-like key and see the real-time-speed etc (edited)

ctrl + shit + d / ctrl + shit +d + g

there does seem to be something wrong with the wiki though, since in-game i accelerate to 16 subtiles/sec

Patiga

i don't understand how you get such a high value, but yes, this is not in subtiles, but purely in tiles

5.69 (tiles) * 32 (sub-tiles/tiles) (edited)

07:52

= 182.08

ah, now it says sub-tiles, its correct like that

07:53

although you should probably convert the .69 into sub-tiles first

07:53

to get a more accurate result

Patiga

although you should probably convert the .69 into sub-tiles first

???????????

07:53

5.69 * 32 = (5 + 0.69) * 32

07:54

doesnt change anyything (edited)

07:54

.69 tiles = 22 sub-tiles

Patiga

.69 tiles = 22 sub-tiles

no

07:55

.6875

its rounded

D:

07:55

but

07:55

u cant round in this case xD

why not?

because theres nothing under sub-tile

07:56

it litteraly does not exist for the game

07:56

in reality theres always smthing under cm => mm => µm =>etcc

07:56

so u can round

we can still round .6875 to .69, which is done in the ctrl+shift+d debug screen

07:56

we can always round decimal places

but here 0.09 subtile means nothing to the game

07:57

u can only have 0 or 1

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not between

07:57

well

07:57

so if its just rounded

07:57

its ok

it is, which I find completely reasonable ^^

u cant do that but at least we can understand the number

07:59

@Patiga its like u have one byte = 8 bits , then u round 1.375 bytes to 1.4 byte

07:59

u cant do that

07:59

bcs 1.4 byte means 11.2 bit

07:59

and u cant have 0.2 bit

it's only for visualization

i hope its more clear like this

Patiga

it's only for visualization

ye lets say this

visualization is imo a proper reason to round numbers

Patiga

visualization is imo a proper reason to round numbers

yes but i am trying to do teeworlds math so i need exact numbers

which is why i tell you to convert them to sub-tiles first :p

08:01

to get exact numbers

08:01

and that rounding shouldn't get in your way this way

so 5.69 tiles should be 182 subtiles

08:02

and 4.62 should be 148 st (edited)

sounds good

08:08

how can i have y-axis speed and x-axis speed ?

There is none, I think

*Disappointment*

Patiga

yeah, velocity is in sub-tiles/tick

unpossibe (edited)

08:15

if speed is 16 st/t * 50t/s => 800 st/s

08:15

wich means 800st/32st/t = 25 tiles per second

08:16

wich is a bit very speedy

huh you are right, the wiki value of 10 seems to be the correct one

then why in the client it says 16 feelsamazingman

then I don't know what the velspeed value is in ctrl+shift+d

08:24

ah lol

08:24

it could be tiles/sec

xD

08:24

true (edited)

08:24

just figured out that 10* 50/32 = 15.526 =~ 16

08:25

08:27

so if i understood it nicely

08:28

gravitation is just -0.5tiles/s each s

08:28

considering that y negative value is downward

sounds good

Patiga

sounds good

no xD its 0.5 st/t

10:50

bcs its info from wiki and wiki is st/t

10:51

also i tested and its actually that

eh yeah sounds better :)

for example we have 50tiles = 1600st

10:52

then the time (in ticks) to fall from 50tiles is t = (2*1600)^(1/2)

10:52

then u do t/50 to have in seconds

10:53

and u have ~1.13s

10:53

wich is correct considering my test

10:56

Can i use this in my map? Is this considered a bug? At a speed 255 I can fly through kill

the question is why ?

15:25

its not even something cool

15:26

no skill involved

Ama

the question is why ?

Demo will explain

SPOILER

its just a random bug tho, like that could work without the bug

15:38

also i think bugs like this arent allowed

Thx, will delete it)

@Im 'corneum maps with bugs justatest

15:51

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louis

also i think bugs like this arent allowed

it's still in your acq map :O

the gameplay doesnt use it

oh lol yeah i guess, its less important since its just an easter egg but if kill skipping gets fixed one day then it'd break feelsbadman

it must not be fixed

Moyoi

Demo will explain

yes u can use it

louis

also i think bugs like this arent allowed

Yes they are

18:19

There are dozends of maps using bugs

Astramast

i remember that in the game u can activate a minecraft-f3-like key and see the real-time-speed etc (edited)

Cnrtl shift d

Moyoi

Demo will explain

Try not to use speeders since they are really buggy/crappy. If necessary it is ofcourse not a big deal

n000b

Try not to use speeders since they are really buggy/crappy. If necessary it is ofcourse not a big deal

tell that to this score system

18:47

but it has failed precisely once :P

18:47

oh im missing a redundant switch on the right side

18:47

good thing i decided to take a screenshot and stare at it lol

18:50

using a 50 speeder can rarely get stuck in doors

18:50

but from my testing it must be like a 1/1000 chance

n000b

Cnrtl shift d

ye we founnd

lynn

tell that to this score system

it's 100% because when you teleport in this place you are not freezed for some frames you can move or shoot there .... that's why you stuck :/

19:00

know this glitch from my map 1st version of map "tee swap"

the only players that can enter this area are deep

19:00

wym

19:00

to be fair i didnt explain that xD

if you throw player with deep to teleport they can still save speed

on the same frame as deep, yes

19:01

but they are deeped previously

19:01

i filter through a small vertical column to cancel A/D input on the frame they are deeped

19:02

then they're teleported to the game area

through a red tele i suppose?

XD

yes, at the bottom

19:02

sec

sounds solid

19:02

wanna post a screenshot of the tunnel setup? ^^

in my 2nd version of this map i had issue where there was chance to stuck when you go in swap mehanism

more of the system

19:03

left column initializes score to 0-0, deactivates spawn boxes and ball return boxes

@lynn are you texnonik 2 ?

lol

19:03

the middle is the speeder differentiator thing

19:03

which takes u through left/right depending on tp

19:04

the last 3 spots are for cancelling player 1, player 2, and ball A/D input / momentum from the speeder setup on the left (player only in this case)

19:04

i want a consistent setup for the main score system but it's hard

19:05

gravity tune zone can also break in weird ways

if it's too high it can clip

19:05

and miss a ton of buttons

19:05

even with speedup layer it still can skip buttons

yes

which is why there is redundancy in the original screenshot i showed

i had this glitch too

yeah i see that

19:06

clean setup though

sometimes i had that switch didn't work so made extra room to check is switch was activated i remember

yeah chain teleports and extra buttons / speed control is necessary to avoid breaking your setups but it is very annoying and an eyesore to watch while spectating

this was extra check

19:07

which is why i just have no design layer in those areas, except for 1 solid tile repeated

19:07

huh

19:07

so it just does the same thing again?

19:07

two teleports?

19:08

im guessing it's also copied here to reduce tees getting the same TP

19:08

my map has doors blocking entry + forced team so it's not possible to have these issues

it's one , if i am correct just two rooms for ......... i don't remember it's was long time ago

xD

19:09

i am still working on the map

19:09

actually people have really enjoyed it recently

19:09

it's hosted on lynn's lounge if you want to check it out but it's a texas host so probably ping

19:09

if you dont have anyone there to play with, use the chill tp not score tp (edited)

19:10

then you can practice serves and the ball will spawn on top of the net instead of the scored opponent ball box (edited)

Omg

19:10

the text in map

lol

19:10

oldschool :D

19:10

i mean, i plan to get some mapres for the font

2p

so it's not the generic one

19:10

LOL

is

i have seen you a lot in youtube comments btw :P

best

insert drake meme about using quads for explaining stuff to the player vs using cfrom to spell out text on the screen (edited)

19:12

xd

wait

19:13

you mean im corneum map ? subtitles ? xD

19:13

I remember i changed them to bad stuff xD

19:14

@lynn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuH2JLcHPPM switch on subtitles xD

that's actually cool though lol

19:15

the corneum thing

lmao imagine he sees it xD

LOL WTF

xD

rip corneum never replied to your comment

lynn

rip corneum never replied to your comment

he is busy kid , what i can say )

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lol

This got declined, but i still would like to hear some of your Opinions on it. If no one wants to take a look it's fine as well

iLuA.map

1.92 MB

Didnt look at it, but ~2mb for a map is huge