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Between 2021-04-10 00:00:00Z and 2021-04-11 00:00:00Z

he forgot to allow C++ compiler to use AVX instructions as well

09:06

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@Comrade arent all those SIMD stuff disabled for your usual binary distributions

09:35

cuz some cpus dont support them?+

yes, some very old CPUs don't support them

09:37

by the way, if you want the shortest machine code

09:37

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09:37

still the same C++ code

https://github.com/AdamNiederer/faster

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09:38

poggers

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox

uBlock Origin - An efficient blocker for Chromium and Firefox. Fast and lean. - gorhill/uBlock

10:26

if u use chrome now is the best time to switch

10:26

Ability to uncloak 3rd-party servers disguised as 1st-party through the use of CNAME record. The effect of this is to make uBO on Firefox the most efficient at blocking 3rd-party trackers relative to other other browser/blocker pairs

wasnt chrome adding some anti adblock stuff in chrome 90?

i blocked 4.000M ads since i installed ublock

thats more of a reason xd

yeah

10:31

they are removing extension apis

10:31

thus making it harder for ublock to work

GLonDirectX12 works fine, around 30% of native GL performance, dont see any rendering glitches

11:19

on windows

11:20

guess some intel user can test it

11:21

i'll create a small tutorial and maybe batch file for the environment variable

@Comrade or maybe it's fixed in trunk? the ir generated looked off to me

@louis SRY FOR PING, this is opengl to directx12 converter, maybe you can test it(you dont need to switch drivers or anything

) https://gist.github.com/Jupeyy/ca2ac80fb9765a9c4370bb9a6b88fb32

OpenGL on DirectX 12 for DDNet

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12:20

nice PAINT key works too, since directx support is just better on windows minimize/maximize tha app is also very quick

12:21

on opengl it creates a black screen for ~1 ms on dx12 its pretty isntant

Learath2

@Comrade or maybe it's fixed in trunk? the ir generated looked off to me

yes, something is wrong with Clang 10 and 11, but it's fine in older versions and trunk, gcc is fine too

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #2233 Client crash on rocket explosions

that makes much more sense than such a trivial optimisation going so wrong

The Discord bot generates a wrong graph if i issue $points. See https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/500032072455290880/830441290898079744 and https://ddnet.tw/players/Scrumplex (edited)

14:02

Seems like it uses old data, as it only shows 1674 points, while my profile has 2000+ points

Scrumplex

The Discord bot generates a wrong graph if i issue $points. See https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/500032072455290880/830441290898079744 and https://ddnet.tw/players/Scrumplex (edited)

the dataset got too large to load, I'm looking into how to fix it

Scrumplex

Seems like it uses old data, as it only shows 1674 points, while my profile has 2000+ points

it has been doing that for 2 months pepecry

pepecry

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3768 Fixed hook being lost for specific teleports

Removed the reset of external tees hooks on the specific teleport types.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgr...

Learath2

the dataset got too large to load, I'm looking into how to fix it

Just an idea from the top of my head, but I think you could use a GROUP BY statement to group by day and then SUM the points for the day

15:42

Here I guess -> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-discordbot/blob/3a16092e96048924621b34322fe0c7f0e13183f0/cogs/profile.py#L364 (edited)

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15:43

by that you would only have at most 365 (366 with leap years) data entries per year shown per user (edited)

Scrumplex

Just an idea from the top of my head, but I think you could use a GROUP BY statement to group by day and then SUM the points for the day

Oh it’s trivial when you have a db connected. The bot relies on pre-generated data we use to generate the website

16:02

The part that’s failing is the parsing of the massive pre-generated msgpack

16:02

(Which is used to populate the db of the bot)

having web-api db will be solution imho

gerdoe

having web-api db will be solution imho

Eeeeeh, it’s not exactly cheap this kind of db access. Sure it would solve it but how much more processing power will we need on our db server in exchange?

16:04

(And some statistics take time to actually calculate like most common partners and stuff)

hm, you are right, db server would burn justatest

justatest

I think it just needs some buffered reading, I just didn’t have time to look into it yet

clustered db?

Putting a nail in the wall with a hydraulic press :p

small box with nails in it! xd

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-discordbot/blob/3a16092e96048924621b34322fe0c7f0e13183f0/data/tools/convert_players_file.py fwiw this is the part that’s failing

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16:10

Just need to use the buffered unpacker from msgpack I think

16:12

Tho it does already look buffered, so what do I know

16:13

Ah, it does unpack buffered but the result is all in memory at the same time

16:13

That’s a no go

16:18

I guess this needs external sorting

@Learath2 Theres a bot on the chinese discord aswell, maybe their bot works

Or maybe let mysql do the ranking, hm

murpi

@Learath2 Theres a bot on the chinese discord aswell, maybe their bot works

@TsFreddie have you surpassed us in technology? ;P

Okay, I’ll try to shove it into the database then use a query to do the sorting instead

hm, the msgpack is only 11M actually @jao are you like running this on a C64?

oh I see the issue

17:47

it's not memory

justatest

1

this should have been broken for such a long time now :/

17:55

or maybe jao has another version running that he didn't commit to github yet

17:58

okay, now it makes sense :/

18:00

pf, even getting this running is a pain how am I supposed to have the ddnet module on my computer that thing is a proper mess

18:05

heh and most of these ancient scripts are in py2

18:05

the bot is py3

18:05

yet another mess caused by python being the silliest language to be ever invented

I couldnt get the bot to work either, it requires uvloop which isn't available on windows

is loading a diskcache generated on another system even sane??

18:08

I spent almost an hour or two now to bolt this together and it just chokes on trying to load the disk cache

better use a C64, no python there

Sorry but @jao will have to either show me how to get this thing even working if I'm to fix it or he needs to fix it himself :/

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better use a C64, no python there

closer to the metal the more fun it is to debug

18:11

meh, now that I wasted the 2 hours I'd alloted for cooking and eating I have to either order or have boring pasta

well if u eat meat, eat a python

nothing wrong with ordering food

is expensiv

18:12

or unhealthy

18:12

or both

18:13

think I'd take nodejs any day over python :/

@Learath2 i sent u the latest version

18:14

the thing that’s fail isnt on github

yeah, I'm trying to get that working, but loading the diskcache from ddnet.tw fails

18:14

pickle seems to want the ddnet module we have on ddnet.tw which is py2

18:15

even if I bolt it in there patching the obv failures I get a UnicodeDecodeError while it's trying to deserialize

ah ye it uses a py3 version of it

I don't think we ever made one, you did?

it just needs a few functions

okay, I'll figure it out...

does anyone know telnet's actual buffer size of tw econ?

@Chairn maybe you are interested in Opengl to dx12 https://gist.github.com/Jupeyy/ca2ac80fb9765a9c4370bb9a6b88fb32 maybe the 64bit version works then on nvidia xd

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I would prefer to try that, but i can't compile 64 bits version https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10535950/forcing-nvidia-gpu-programmatically-in-optimus-laptops/14041061#14041061

Forcing NVIDIA GPU programmatically in Optimus laptops

I'm programming a DirectX game, and when I run it on an Optimus laptop the Intel GPU is used, resulting in horrible performance. If I force the NVIDIA GPU using the context menu or by renaming my

you can let github compile it

C++
extern "C" {
    _declspec(dllexport) DWORD NvOptimusEnablement = 0x00000001;
}

*

18:51

i can?

yeah just fork ddnet and then add it in a commit

18:52

i can try to add it, if thats acutally enough

i already have a fork but its quite old, does it work for new forks or old ones too?

u just need to fetch current source and push the update

according to the link, it works for some people, depending on driver version

https://github.com/Jupeyy/ddnet/runs/2313923755

Build software better, together

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which file did you add the declaration?

ah i hope it generates artifacts if all except windows fails

im trying it as well

src/engine/client/client.cpp directly above the main() function

19:01

ah nice it did upload the artifact tho: https://github.com/Jupeyy/ddnet/actions/runs/736528331

ok, im trying it out

19:03

just need to close other game

19:04

lol, it failed to compile with mingw

i think mingw doesnt support _declspec

nah, it failed before

oh thats strange

it doesnt knwo type uintptr_t (edited)

ah, are u not using mingw64?

19:05

i think that other mingw is really struggle

E:\Teeworlds_DDNet\DDNet-fork\src\base\system.c:3394:10: error: 'uintptr_t' undeclared (first use in this function); did you mean 'intptr_t'?
 3394 |  return (uintptr_t)ShellExecuteA(NULL, "open", link, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWDEFAULT) > 32;

19:06

yeah, my installation is from 2014 i think

tho i get this with mingw

src/engine/client/client.cpp:4275:14: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before ‘(’ token
 4275 |     _declspec(dllexport) DWORD NvOptimusEnablement = 0x00000001;
      |              ^

19:07

with __declspec it works

19:07

xd

not working unfortunately

19:09

i can't even objdump it, mingw says unrecognized file format

yeah, you have another error, guess u can only update mingw

19:09

ah wait

nah, the file you sent me

ok

19:09

too bad

it doesn't use NVidia

if its just opengl related

19:10

try the dx12 thing xD

19:10

its pretty easy to setup and the performance is quite good

hey, i found this on my github page https://github.com/Chairn/ddnet/security/code-scanning

19:16

not sure if you have access to it

no xd

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19:16

seems like there's some code analysis tool running on github ^^

ah yes, i think u can just ignore them

19:17

yeah xd

yeah, but would be nice to fix i guess

its mostly about localtime function

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19:20

well, see you later

19:20

don't know whyit's so slow

it's because of that WinRAR icon for sure

u need msvc release anyway

19:21

the mingw release doesnt contain the d3d12 driver

yeah i realized that after posting the screenshot, still slow anyway

yeah

19:21

use tor or smth xD

19:21

some proxy

problem is on github's side, not mine

its probably between both

19:21

the routing between

well, your compiled client was downloaded normally

oh

19:22

well then rip xd

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19:23

well, server is one city away

ur upload

19:24

;~;

bonus for living in a city center, you have optic fiber

19:25

and since one year, city center is quite calm, i wonder why

i just need 10k, then i could let it built here xd

econ's buffer is 1024 bytes

I get 250fps ingame only. Is there anything I am not aware of that I need to configure to get full power on windows for grafic output.

20:36

I use RTX 2080 Ti btw, so fps should be higher naturally

cl_refresh_rate 0 gfx_refresh_rate 0

20:38

and vsync off

20:39

what OS?

I checked those setting already and there are set to unlimited or off and os is Windoes 10

with /showall on or what?

showall is not used

well then i assume its a missing driver

20:46

download latest from nvidia directly

20:46

250 fps could e.g. be done with a good software opengl implementation

20:46

i also get around 250, but only with entities

20:48

kamillentee with nightly you can check in f1 what device is used btw

20:49

but i'd still upgrade the driver

20:49

never use the windows preinstalled thing

kamillentroll get out of here

20:54

whistroll

20:57

@Deleted User can testing commands be done with a duration? I mean would it be hard to implement? So u can just bind ur super command to stay on for 1 seconds so u wont have to press ur key twice when testing a tight part or Something

mh sounds useful, its definitely possible. you can just create github issue and suggest it

@Deleted User malwarebytes detects several files as malware:

6.04 KB

Windows user

apparently, it's AI malware detection

21:00

so i guess those are false positives

Chairn

@Deleted User malwarebytes detects several files as malware:

you only need the dlls anyway, but i think graphic apis are often detected xd

21:01

atleast back in the days on windows i programmed a opengl app and it was detected too xD

i need ddnet nightly or current version is fine?

nightly has the advantage of showing you, what driver it uses

21:02

and then u can verify it uses dx12

current version does it as well i think

21:04

[2021-04-10 23:03:36][sdl]: SDL version 2.0.8 (compiled = 2.0.8)
[2021-04-10 23:03:36][gfx]: Created OpenGL zu.zu context.
[2021-04-10 23:03:37][opengl]: Vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[2021-04-10 23:03:37][opengl]: Version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 425.31

ah i mean in f1, but that already looks wrong

21:04

did you run the .bat file?

not yet

funny tho

21:05

that it uses nvidia for some reason

nah, that's the 32 bit

21:07

hum starting script second time didn't start ddnet

just clikc ddnet.exe

it shows the prompt and closes it immediately

it just important that the script set the env var

21:09

interesting

21:09

but u took x64 dlls and x64 ddnet client?

yes

i assume then, that it sadly uses the intel driver, bcs louis also could start it

21:09

sad that intel doesnt support it, even tho it supports dx12 since gen 6

21:10

also couldnt*

how to get a log file from command line?

you can do cl_show_console 1

21:10

but in a working client

21:10

or add a logfile

21:10

might be better as the console might close too

im trying, but it doesnt work as the output is in another console window that closes instantly

logfile test or smth like that (edited)

[2021-04-10 23:11:34][client]: starting...
[2021-04-10 23:11:34][sdl]: SDL version 2.0.8 (compiled = 2.0.8)
[2021-04-10 23:11:34][gfx]: Created OpenGL zu.zu context.
[2021-04-10 23:11:34][gfx]: unable to create window: No matching GL pixel format available
[2021-04-10 23:11:34][gfx]: setting resolution to 640x480 and trying again
[2021-04-10 23:11:34][sdl]: SDL version 2.0.8 (compiled = 2.0.8)
[2021-04-10 23:11:34][gfx]: Created OpenGL zu.zu context.
[2021-04-10 23:11:34][gfx]: unable to create window: No matching GL pixel format available
[2021-04-10 23:11:34][gfx]: out of ideas. failed to init graphics
[2021-04-10 23:11:34][client]: couldn't init graphics

it should create it where the client is started

21:11

yeah too bad

21:11

rip

21:12

intel, my friend and helper

21:12

i even tested it on my mashine lmao, why does it hate progress so much xD

Github issues lack tagging (we need at least two groups bugs and feature suggestions). So bad overview. Sometimes not even the author remembers he created an issue for something.

21:12

@Jupstar I tried what you said. Installing the driver did not help, but I used the nightly to find out which device is used and it says I use an RTX 3080 for ddnet. Which is built in but the monitor cable is not plugged in this card (just checked that).

21:12

I try something else now, I have an idea.

we have tags in github issues

21:13

maybe u cant set them?

21:13

well then plug it into rtx 3080? XD

21:13

isnt that card even better

21:13

why are u so rich xD

how can i unset the variable?

21:13

so that i can see the normal output to compare

you dont need to unset it, aslong u use a client without the dlls it will run fine

21:14

as soon as u use the dlls it will use software renderer or this one

21:14

so better just extract a second client

I looked it up, you cant set tags for your own issues and you cant give others the permission rights to set tags on github. So only very few people can do it.

oh ok

21:15

didnt know users cant do that, could swear i saw it in other repos

I want to sell the 2080 ti

ok, well maybe u can set the card in some nvidia settings

[2021-04-10 23:16:40][client]: starting...
[2021-04-10 23:16:40][sdl]: SDL version 2.0.8 (compiled = 2.0.8)
[2021-04-10 23:16:40][gfx]: Created OpenGL zu.zu context.
[2021-04-10 23:16:40][opengl]: Vendor string: Intel
[2021-04-10 23:16:40][opengl]: Version string: 3.0.0 - Build 10.18.14.5162
[2021-04-10 23:16:40][gfx]: GPU vendor: Intel
[2021-04-10 23:16:40][gfx]: GPU renderer: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
[2021-04-10 23:16:40][gfx]: GPU version: 3.0.0 - Build 10.18.14.5162

21:17

that's the default

ok

21:17

well i hoped, when it inits dx12 it just uses the best card

21:17

instead of intel

21:17

since dx12 is better supported on windows

Deleted User

why are u so rich xD

I wish he was rich then i would be too, on the other hand he wouldnt share his richness to his family damn

ah, so he showed you teeworlds in first place? well atleast one good thing then?

yes he did poggers

poggers

21:20

then he rq

XD

I always changed my name when playing at night so he couldnt report me to mom

and ur mom is qshar?

xd

21:21

qfart is a troll

21:21

Not related to us

I plugged it in the 3080. Now i have 1600fps.

21:22

Hm apparently 2080 ti is too bad for tw now.

21:22

still too low

yeah, except you have a weak CPU

21:22

or playing a GPU intense map

ryzen 9 3950 x

in entities you should have around 5k-10fps fps

21:23

on windows i get around 6k-7k fps, and i have a much weaker GPU

lol, i get max 700fps

Ah I think I know it. PSU is too weak for two cards

[freenode] kamillentee[m]

I plugged it in the 3080. Now i have 1600fps.

nobo i have 2,5k fps with way worse

I will take one out so it does not matter I think

kek

I get 120 fps with entities on my t450s

21:24

it really sucks

Same

my rx580 > rtx 3080 in tw

21:24

monkalaugh

monkalaugh

21:25

Imagine wasting power to run a rtx 3080 to play nothing but tw with

I might do some calculations with it all night when I dont run tw

21:26

So its the cheapest gpu in the end

thats cheating

21:27

i dont like cheating

21:27

Save by waste

21:27

Big troll

Use linux, u'll get more fps than windows. Windows is :trash:

+

good to see more linux users

Windows is kog

kog

Linux? is that thing still around?

m$$ is trembling BASED

BASED

kamillentee trolling again

its true tho, ddnet runs over 10k fps on linux

Someone kick

same setup just different OS

Yeah, i got 5fps on windows, and 125 on linux

What linux would you recommend to me if I ever wanted to switch?

monkalaugh

monkalaugh

monkalaugh

monkalaugh

greenthing

21:29

Ubuntu

[freenode] kamillentee[m]

What linux would you recommend to me if I ever wanted to switch?

that question i normally ask to u

21:29

Ubuntu worst

i dunno how skilled you are, so ubuntu or smth easy as that xD

dont feed him

but i personally use debian unstable

Hes trolling

gentoo

21:29

im switching soon

Mint

from arch

troll

Konsti

kek

gentoo is nice idea, but i dont want to compile everything xd

He deleted my mothers windows when i was 12 and installed linux and i was mad cuz i couldnt play my shit flash games anymore

XD

if you want to follow the GNU god you should use a GNU approved distro by stallman himself https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html

Im a nobo using MX

21:31

super simple

21:31

Manjaro always breaks

If you want something familuar do ubuntu so simple

yeah

21:31

you wont be a windows normie, you will just be a ubuntu normie

Ubuntu Is the worst linux

then u can jump to the real juice

Its just few less shit than windows

Ryozuki you are a fan of rms but are still using unfree software like discord or steam?

monkalaugh

https://guix.gnu.org/

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21:32

based distro

Steam sucks

yeah i am sinner

21:33

but i try to be closer to rms

21:33

i think even rms can't be full rms sadly

yes they can

21:33

look at kamillentee

21:33

No facebook no discord no whatsapp no Steam no skype

I use windows right now and android with gapps

u normally dont wingay

21:34

ur probably just too lazy to switch rn

yes

And accidently bought something with wingay 10

https://github.com/wafelack/orion

Orion is a high level, purely functional Lisp dialect. - Wafelack/orion

21:36

i want to learn lisp

[ddnet/ddnet-data-svg] Pull request opened: #23 Add x_spec by Ravie

22:42

[ddnet/ddnet-data-svg] Pull request closed: #23 Add x_spec by Ravie

22:42

[ddnet-data-svg:main] 2 new commits

b93c5e2 Add x_spec by Ravie - Jupeyy 2613f56 Merge pull request #23 from Jupeyy/pr_add_x_spec_by_ravie - Jupeyy

i wonder what languages our fonts support, i saw someone using bengali, didnt even know that language exists xD google even has a font for it https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Hind+Siliguri?subset=bengali

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