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Between 2021-04-09 00:00:00Z and 2021-04-10 00:00:00Z
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! ᴹᴰᴵBolo. 法 ᴵᴹᴾᴸ 2021-04-09 01:35:30Z
@Diamond
01:35
Diamantes
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-04-09 04:32:32Z
choting is absolutely illegal
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good thing being afk is not
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-04-09 04:35:02Z
good thing im never afk
04:35
konsitafksti
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zzzz afksti
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-04-09 04:38:15Z
ban actroll
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it missed
04:39
bankonsti
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louis
beta testing server when
never :(
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man, i really wanted a browser feature that shows recently played map, like a history or something (edited)
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U could enable auto demo and sort after date
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i know that there is a feature called demo, but i still dont know what it is
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It records your gameplay and auto demo records everything
07:31
And you can limit the total amount of demos, so older get deleted
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is the file size large
07:31
of each demo
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Depends. Usually 1-2mb Max
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oh ok good, Thanks for the info
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But if you play for too long or the map is huge in size it could be bigger xd
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Are the bug abusers getting banned?
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We are still discussing reaction beyond removing ranks
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If they didn't report the bug at all then they should be punished
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no wtf
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bcs its a bug from ddnet
08:03
they could just say they thought its a feature and didnt know better
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They should have tested their features before realasing it xd
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But they took advantage of it instead of reporting which could've possibly lead to unfair ranks
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And the problem is we do tests, we ran it restricted on GER2 first etc. Players discover bugs in the new feature, but instead of reporting them they keep them secret and abuse them for good ranks
08:03
so if the worst punishment is "your cheated rank might get deleted" there is 0 incentive to report any bugs
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Every other game punishes bug abuser too, for a good reason
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really?
08:04
thats lame
08:04
what do you get on the other hand btw if you report a bug
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It's like allowing players to cheat
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When you rename yourself to "Pablo Cheato" before using the bug it's pretty clear that you're aware that it's a cheat and not just a new feature😄 (edited)
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they did? xd
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lmao
08:05
It was me actually
08:05
And I mean
08:05
We found the bug under an hour
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thats a good midway. you get the attention of finding and abusing a bug but you also report it through #records
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Did you guys rly tested the feature ??
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@Deleted User cap
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We just had fun, we knew the rank might get deleted
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But you caused the admins to spend many hours to hunt after all your cheated ranks
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Fun, while others who legitimate got rank 1 wouldn't be able to experience your fun lmao
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You could have asked tbh
08:06
And
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Deleted User
You could have asked tbh
Wtf
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I play a lot y'know, I have a lot of ranks too
08:07
Not cheated
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Ok, so I'll just write an @ everyone every day to report new bugs 😄
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i think he meant you could have asked which ranks
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y
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How would I even know that you were the one abusing?
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I mean
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We had to scan 120.000 teehistorian files for starters, and reduce that based on some heuristics
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I did 3 r1 in 2 hours
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how did the bug work @Deleted User
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You hook a person, that person swap with an other (edited)
08:09
And it still hooks the same person, different place
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ah cool
08:09
cant imagine a good way to abuzse tho xd
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Open maps
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And you didn't mind at all to report this after having your fun?
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A lot of oldshools are opened
08:10
I mean, someone did the thing in a full server
08:10
And so we did
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Bug abusing is the same as cheating and I'm sure that ddnet doesn't allow cheaters
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Botters are still playing soooooo
08:11
idk
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Deleted User
You could have asked tbh
Why should we believe you after you exploiting the bug to the fullest?
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It would be a different story if you'd report the bug, but you had your fun with it lol
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@murpi If you ask me and check the demos you gain time, if you don't you just lose a lot of time like you did
08:13
And
08:13
idc if you don't believe me
08:13
I have no interests in ddnet staff
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we would have to go through every single teehistorian file regardless if you shared your cheated ranks as your word means nothing
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Maybe ask him if he knows the ingame names of everyone who did it
08:15
Maybe there's more
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The only one's I know are the ones that I cheated with, for the rest idk, we weren't the first to know the bug
08:16
as I said
08:16
Someone did it in a full server
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Do you remember their names? Or do you have a demo with them in it?
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You really think "they" would snitch out eachother?
08:17
I highly doubt that
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What if he wouldn't get punished if he tells names
08:17
That would encourage him wouldn't it?
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I remember names but it doesn't change anything bc they didn't finished the map
08:17
And idk know who did it anyway
08:17
and I don't have the demo
08:18
I don't even know if BOTTERS are getting punished, I am not afraid of getting punished for exploiting a bug like this
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kinda glad i didnt know about the bugs... cant remember you were that harsh the last time a bug like that was exploited
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like 2player bug. i got no punishment at all
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Harsh? So far we only removed the cheated ranks
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It won't help anyway. Every noname could have found and abuse it. Maybe such features need longer testing time. I was told the feature is implemented like /timeout. So there definitely were uncertainties
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yeah but there werent even talks about it last time
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Dude, if people know that bug abusing won't get punished, it's just an encouragement for more people to do it, wtf is so hard to understand about that, do you want to see this game burn or what? xd
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shut up nerd
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Most bugs become features in ddnet
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Because everyone knows them and it's "official"
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They let a unknown guy make a feature
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would be epic if he abused it himself xd
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Most bugs come from teeworlds itself and not from ddnet
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that swap thing was buggy from the beginning
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Every fucking time something new is implemented it gets abused
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i even reported a bug with it but nobody cared (edited)
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I added your bug to git
08:22
It just want fixed
08:22
Wasn't
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oh okay then nvm
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last bug i reported also got ignored.
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Im 'corneum
would be epic if he abused it himself xd
If i would've, i would just shut up and didn't tell deen to punish bug abusers xd
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Its just hard to track all issues in discord
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you made the feature?
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discord bridge for such features pls
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Just report bugs on github
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Then it gets abused again
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last time o posted on github i got 327851298 emails
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U can disable them
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or just dont bother with it when we have #bugs
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Many bugs get fixed there tho
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But you could implement a github bridge for bugs
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Deleted User
Then it gets abused again
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Idk, bugs happen but bug abusers should be punished
08:26
If they use it without reporting
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punish the guy who implemented a bug imo
08:27
greenthing
08:27
who can say you didnt do it on purpose
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Do you want to cut his loan or what? Lol
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prison
08:29
kopf ab
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Pablo Cheato
08:30
Btw you're the map maker of tiji right?
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yes
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I hate you
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what part were you too shit for?
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Dude I had to sit like 3-4 hours yesterday on that map, because I always failed the edge on the beginning and that one part in the middle of the map where you have to throw and hook the tee through the small 2 tile opening
08:32
You made it too faily for no reason
08:33
It's pain
08:33
And i failed at last part
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And now I'm still unfinished
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you can hammer on the edge
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You should have used tee swap Wav
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Im 'corneum
i think he meant you could have asked which ranks
there is also 0 proof that what he reports are all the abused ranks
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Fluday
You should have used tee swap Wav
Funny
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Im 'corneum
you can hammer on the edge
Wdym
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tee 1 goes on the wall over the part. then tee 2 jumps in and hammers freestyle
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On last part?
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its like normal 3x3 hammer edge thing but one edge is missing
08:35
no that first edge
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It's hard to recover from that tho
08:36
You have to jump in with 100% certainty that he's gonna be on edge
nouis 2
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no you just need to hit a hammer
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You don't like checkpoints do you?
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like tele?
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i like that on hard maps
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Dude I'm just a steam player, i haven't played the game for years like the others :(
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Ryozuki
there is also 0 proof that what he reports are all the abused ranks
even if i find a bug and report it right away. admins would have to look at teehistorian about it
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Iza
Dude I'm just a steam player, i haven't played the game for years like the others :(
So just go on less faily maps or easiest.
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-04-09 09:39:11Z
I think server bugs should be reported by players (i dont do that mostly xd) but i wouldnt report a map cheat instead of abusing it
09:45
I mean the difference is, admins have a lot work on investigation of server bugs that could be abused on any map. If its only a specific map its pretty easy. I dont think maps should get fixed without the mappers permission anyway (except startlineskips maybe) But recently i see super shit fixes of maps with new hooktrough in oldschool maps for example or fixes with way more changes than needed and i really dont like that. Maybe ask me for the best fix with the least impact on maps experience or gameplay
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Lionheart
So just go on less faily maps or easiest.
okay
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 10:01:49Z
imagine being unable to play Tiji in t0
10:02
just waste one hour of your life on Tiji and that's good
10:02
i dc-ed on Kobra 4 after one hour cuz i was sleepy af but it's good since my mates too monkalaugh
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Point with not reporting bugs like this is that you get to have fun for an hour or so, we get to dig through hundreds of thousands of files often needing to code new tools to analyze them. It's just a colossal waste of time
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-04-09 10:20:32Z
server bugs are bad
10:20
but dont touch physics "bugs"
10:20
They are features
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remmebr when they tried to fix a bug i reported and suddenly everything was hookthrough? that must have been a sign 😄
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Well we both "clans" (admins and abusers like me) have to learn something from this history. Tbh i didn't know that it would be that annoying for you guys to fix everything. Snail explained to me a bit the process (with teehistorian and stuff) and now i know more about it, and i'd like to apologize to the admins who lost their time for nothing just because i wanted to have fun. In the future i'd report it directly to an admin. On the other hand it showed that the tests of these new features have to be reinforced since the cheat wasn't even that hard to find. Maybe hiring guys who know well the game and are known to find cheats/bugs would be the best or a good solution. I remember some nicks of the guys who saw us, if you need any of them I could give them to you in DM. Once again i'm sorry for the trouble it caused.
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broken map
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Maybe hiring guys
We don't earn money with DDNet so we also can't hire people
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y you got what i wanted to say, just like map testers
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Feature was open for testing for weeks, then on GER2 only inside of teams only, then all servers inside team only, next step would have been team 0 too
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swap feature in team 0 would be a bad idea
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Why? It's the same as using timeout and swapping timeout codes
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if it'd be implemented like that xd
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Tbh when i learned about the swap thing, it was already released for 2 weeks. Never heard of it before while i'm playing on ddnet almost everyday.
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yeah but i can see abuse incoming, on theory only it looks very abuseable for speedruns
11:03
and afaik it doesnt even add aditional time like /save to the run
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yeah, no one looks into ddnet github
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As i said creating a team that has the role to find the potential bugs of these features is probably better than just putting it on a serv and waiting for some guys to test it on their own
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Brokecdx-
and afaik it doesnt even add aditional time like /save to the run
it does
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it didnt for me, only the 30 seconds waiting time but can be really easy to time that in runs so you be able to swap on a certain part
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And experienced players are also better to test these features since a novice player isn't able to understand the potential of some cheats such as the swap thing (edited)
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then its a bug too
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it adds 60 seconds though
11:05
to your time
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i see, might have been my bad then
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i guess a longer testing time could already help, so the information about new features spread inside the community and more ppl use it
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but anyway at first i only thought /swap is only a replacement for /save (change names) /load
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plus it already happened with /practice aswell
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or chat announcements of new features inside the testing servers
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as i said i play almost everyday, and have been playing for 5 years
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e.g. i think the "tips" announcent dont really add value to brutal servers
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swap was released for 2 weeks
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better announce new features
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never heard of it before 2 weeks
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making broadcasts ingame is what most ppl will see imho
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@Deleted User btw when we did the swap thing there was a bug, not a potential cheat or what
11:16
but like we swaped idk 3 times or smth with different people
11:16
and we all had a different time
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one had 14 for instance and another 17
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and we finished and we got 15 or smth (edited)
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yes
11:21
its really inconsistent
11:22
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3737#issuecomment-810106809 its inside the issue for t0, but maybe i should make another issue
@houseme-kyle do you think you could implement that? Also, should we maybe lower the 3 minute time and allow it in team 0? Feels like at the moment the feature is so annoying to use that /save and ...
11:22
tho i guess the creator of that command is aware of it now
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oh i thought it was you
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i normally dont do any ddrace realted stuff 😄
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Wtf. What is the problem ? Didnt know that command too.
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Lionheart
Wtf. What is the problem ? Didnt know that command too.
i think the command is very new
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Yeah but I don't understand the arg here ?
11:46
And they speak about swap in team 0 so it's confusing me even more
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-04-09 11:53:02Z
I apply for fix map team since current map fixes are being made really really bad
12:16
hi
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Teeware : How to win the 4-doors game : Just look who enter in each door and see if he die, if he dont die he entered the good door
12:33
This was a message from UseUrBrain Company
12:33
Have a great Day
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whats a brai
12:34
@Nooback Something special not everyone have :D
12:35
Included, of course, me :)
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Astramast
Teeware : How to win the 4-doors game : Just look who enter in each door and see if he die, if he dont die he entered the good door
troll
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Astramast
Teeware : How to win the 4-doors game : Just look who enter in each door and see if he die, if he dont die he entered the good door
Don't reveal my strategy
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-04-09 12:57:14Z
headbot headbot headbot headbot headbot headbot headbot headbot headbot headbot
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Oh, I should've checked entities. Always thought it's the same tele number for all
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-04-09 13:11:10Z
its still "random"
13:12
i thought tele 17 lets u win always but doesnt
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there are probably multiple rooms, so without zooming out you don't know in which you are?
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Astramast
Teeware : How to win the 4-doors game : Just look who enter in each door and see if he die, if he dont die he entered the good door
𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 13:18:36Z
i never watched and thought there weren't even any wrong door cuz i'm always right
troll 2
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Astramast
Teeware : How to win the 4-doors game : Just look who enter in each door and see if he die, if he dont die he entered the good door
When I played the game asked us * go in the room with the banana colour* and we all go in yellow... All ? No. One decided to go green xD
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looking in kill feed is easiest way to win but sometimes ppl dj and last longer than ud expect in the wrong room so you get faked out lol
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And after he was like hey but green banana exist
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Lionheart
When I played the game asked us * go in the room with the banana colour* and we all go in yellow... All ? No. One decided to go green xD
ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-04-09 13:23:28Z
probably he only knows green banana cuz he works on a plantage
13:23
monkaspeed
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lol imagine changing ur skin in 4 doors before u die in the spike room
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louis
looking in kill feed is easiest way to win but sometimes ppl dj and last longer than ud expect in the wrong room so you get faked out lol
that happened to me bcs @ noobkiller did dj :c (edited)
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the fps changed with the new update? cause before i had +1500 fps and now i have 250 or 300
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some others had similar problems
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yes its very bad, the game lag like if i have COD warzone in the background xd
13:39
maybe i can download old versions
13:42
turn off showall
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when's swap gonna be fixed
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Deleted User
turn off showall
which command in f1?
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Deleted User
which command in f1?
none, its /showall
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Deleted User
which command in f1?
else try zooming out once at zoom in again
13:47
if both doesnt help, tell me
13:48
hmm /showall worked thx xd
13:48
but you somehow turned it on before didnt you? (just to be safe its not a bug)
13:52
yes in the controle pannel
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DDOS on GER2 176.9.114.238:8331 (Naufrage 3 full server) (edited)
14:22
:/
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ger1 also
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-04-09 15:34:58Z
Will there be a design update for teeware?
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-04-09 15:37:31Z
Well default grass looks no good
15:37
With default bg
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I think the map could look better
15:38
Maybe several votable different designs like on fng
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i might do some reskins
15:41
the default bg and grass is easiest to play tho
15:41
but since the microgames are always the same tiles i guess it wouldnt matter
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I just checked the announcement and they talk about a dummy reset ... What it is ?
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@Lionheart the bug was due to the /swap command, dummy teams will be working as usual
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i search for deepfly but i don't find on control
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Is there a way to see all the levels I've beaten under a Name?
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:18:31Z
i'll paste the bind in a bit cuz i'm lazy writing it
17:18
ddnet.tw/ranks
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APFFF
Is there a way to see all the levels I've beaten under a Name?
𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:18:48Z
on internet
17:19
then write your name
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EpTiQu
i search for deepfly but i don't find on control
𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:19:52Z
bind mouse1 "+fire; +toggle cl_dummy_hammer 1 0"
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏
on internet
what link?
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https://ddnet.tw/players/ your name here /
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:20:56Z
top right
17:21
can u help me play gore better
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i mean
17:21
aip gore
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aip gores
17:21
can u help ?
17:22
i can do it
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but like tight gaps is a bit hard
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send server
17:22
are u good tho
17:22
?
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maybe
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:22:41Z
no monkalaugh
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troll
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:24:39Z
i'm a kid doe
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ddnet persian old school aipgores
17:24
thats the only empty one
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@cyberfighter how are u on 2 servers
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why*
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OMG
17:25
IM BIG FAN
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@louis justatest
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louis
@cyberfighter how are u on 2 servers
ive seen him on 3 at once
17:26
troll
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WTF
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@cyberfighter when admit that you are using bot that allows you to play 3 different maps at a time
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linas
IM BIG FAN
hi
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louis
hi
im ur biggest teeworld fan
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whoevers faking me clearly took my skin from when i changed everything to among us
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i am the biggest teeworlds fan
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@louis can u be a big troll and ban him
17:28
troll
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the real cyberfighter doesnt exist
17:28
there are only fakes
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i am the real one
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ur the real souli
17:29
plsplsplstroll
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏
bind mouse1 "+fire; +toggle cl_dummy_hammer 1 0"
and if you just want one letter to activate it and another to deactivate it ?
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:30:43Z
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:30:48Z
there's cfg files for it
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i should post my 1 file based binds there later
17:31
cuz 2 file based ones are troll
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:32:17Z
yea
17:32
you a troll
17:32
so it's good
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cyberfighter
whoevers faking me clearly took my skin from when i changed everything to among us
are you so good that you didn't bother finishing multyeasy ever?
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@Souly help
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:32:45Z
imagine
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cyberfighter
@Souly help
what
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:32:59Z
cyber need help playing gores ? monkalaugh
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no i need help with fakers
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:33:18Z
lmao
17:33
get rekt
17:33
imagine not joining a server using three clients to make fake fakers
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real cyberFighter is using a really cool flag
17:34
made by a cool nontroll player
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nontroll means not noby
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i am noby
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 17:59:03Z
i need a total playtime calculator other than finished maps or steam time to see how no-life i am monkalaugh
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏
i need a total playtime calculator other than finished maps or steam time to see how no-life i am monkalaugh
you can try checking your nickname on status.tw but its not very accurate
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 18:04:55Z
imagine me checking my 4 names
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Check how much your pc is running
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 18:11:11Z
what
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Check how long your pc is running (edited)
18:18
If you only play tw it would be pretty accurate
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my cpu literally go
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omg omg i have ss with aoe
18:41
haters say its fake
18:42
i am the real aoe
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guess im a hater
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wrrrr
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Souly
i am the real aoe
gime ss
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Deleted User
gime ss
of what
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screen shot with u, bc u are REAL Aoe
18:50
learn
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me
18:50
how
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to
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play
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aip
18:50
gores properly
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avoid touching freeze
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btw
18:50
ive heard
18:51
doing hand cam
18:51
+ screenshare
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join general
18:51
to see
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Deleted User
screen shot with u, bc u are REAL Aoe
i dont like taking photos with people
18:52
so i will pass
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turns invisible
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𝕆𝕃𝕀𝕍𝔼𝕀ℝ𝔸 2021-04-09 18:57:21Z
anyone send me database server ?
18:58
@cgt
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 19:02:23Z
wtf
19:02
https://discord.gg/Cf7GbeXB @𝕆𝕃𝕀𝕍𝔼𝕀ℝ𝔸
19:02
i guess
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why speed checkpoints doest work :/
19:17
on moventer
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 19:17:34Z
yes
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maybe u skip them lol
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or u had the exact same time at that cp as last run
19:25
then it doesnt show anything
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i played that video and discord crashed -.- ↑
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@Discord Mod a
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Knuski
or u had the exact same time at that cp as last run
i didnt show anywhere
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is there a way to make it easier to see demos, the demo file has to be opened with DDnet, it cant be played with media player or uploaded to youtube
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You can click the Render button in the bottom right when selecting a demo, it'll render it into a mp4 file that'll appear in \Roaming\Teeworlds\videos ... Though, I don't think this process is very fast at all, I think it's only really best for quickly rendering small clips.
20:08
It's best used alongside this feature, cutting out specific sections of the demo, then rendering them.
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Skeith
It's best used alongside this feature, cutting out specific sections of the demo, then rendering them.
okay i found the way, thank you very much
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You're welcome
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Why chilean servers so laggy lately??
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Souly
you can try checking your nickname on status.tw but its not very accurate
𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 20:49:38Z
big playtime ngl
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Get the Dark Reader extension, save your eyeballs. 🙃
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-09 20:51:31Z
kinda lazy
20:51
almost all i do is watch youtube on internet
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who can give me cat emote?
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