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i never even managed to get a lucid dream. not even close @murpi
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I've had a few already, but that was years ago. Since then I never had one again
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Maybe it's easier to get a lucid dream being at younger age
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actuall this week is a good one to try it harder bcs i can stay awake until im really tired and then i dont have to wait as long
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I've had a couple lucid dreams, though randomly, not through conscious effort
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-04-06 15:23:57Z
I had moments when I couldn't understand if I sleep or not, but most of them were actually me not sleeping
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I had hallucinations most of the times like taht
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i literaly thought about lucid dreams within a dream but i didnt have control. i guess i really cant do it xd
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From my knowledge, keeping track of your dreams by writing them down might help getting lucid dreams on a more consistant basis
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@murpi what a lot of people get, usually when young is sleep paralysis followed by a hallucination. Usually caused by the brain not fully waking up
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yeah i had that sometimes. always managed to break out tho
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oh yeah, I heard that too. It's supposedly the worst feeling ever
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murpi
From my knowledge, keeping track of your dreams by writing them down might help getting lucid dreams on a more consistant basis
yeah, never really worked for me tbf, but I can see the reasoning, you encourage the brain to retain more about the dreams
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luckily I never had this before
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
I had moments when I couldn't understand if I sleep or not, but most of them were actually me not sleeping
best moments, you can let your dream flow, but you can end it whenever you want or change it
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i didnt have hallucinations but just laying in bed not being able to move anything is something else 😄
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nothing beats a cramp right in the calf before waking up (edited)
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what xd
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Nooback
best moments, you can let your dream flow, but you can end it whenever you want or change it
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-04-06 15:31:00Z
I was not able to end it
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As I was actually walking
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murpi
nothing beats a cramp right in the calf before waking up (edited)
for me best ending in dreams is when I should die, so its instant
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-04-06 15:31:26Z
Doing, saying stuff
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i remember one dream where i was outside talking to my mum and suddenly my alarm went off and my mom said whats this? i told her its my alarm clock and we should just move on with the dream. weird
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the worst dream is easily dreamception
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Im 'corneum
what xd
You never had a cramp in your leg while sleeping?
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I woke up like 6 times in one dream once and I was extremely pissed and confused at the end
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i feel like i can control my cramps. with a little foot movement i can just turn it off and on
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Learath2
I woke up like 6 times in one dream once and I was extremely pissed and confused at the end
and at the end you still need more sleep yea that sux
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I never managed to just shake off a cramp
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or i never had a real cramp
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idk
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I usually just make it worse by moving weird
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the weirdest experiences i had was fever dreams
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they make no sense and you know it but you still believe it
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the trick to cramps I've found is to force the muscle to extend using the muscle on the other side
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Im 'corneum
the weirdest experiences i had was fever dreams
You can actually get those on purpose so you get sick after the dream
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You guys ever had a dream over a dream?
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hm?
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i only remember a couple dream where i went to bed but it didnt start another dream
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im sleeping so rarely and drinking so much coffee that sometimes i dont even know if i have slept or not
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I was having a dream and it was horrifying so I tried to wake up. After I did that I ran to kitchen and all of a sudden I am again back in bed
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Like they exoloded
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Exploded
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coffe and energy drinks never really helped me. just makes me feel like i could die at any moment. i just need alot of sleep
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The only weird think i experienced is being rly drunk and going to bed seeing everything move
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I actually sleep rly well
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greenthing
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same. 8hour healthy sleep shedule gang
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when i mix coffee, energy drinks and alcohol then i feel alive and sleepy at the same time
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amazing
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i had a classmate who only slept like 20 minutes before going to school and somehow work too. i dont think he can live until 40 years old like that
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but then once a week he slept through a whole morning
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powernaps are actually very effective
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sleeping too much is also unhealthy
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Im 'corneum
i had a classmate who only slept like 20 minutes before going to school and somehow work too. i dont think he can live until 40 years old like that
I had a classmate - he dead already
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just listen to you body.
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nah but school is over xd
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Souly
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i heard about that no sleep world record, it was 5 days without sleeping i believe and after that the guy just went for his normal 8h of sleep and everything was normal
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TsFreddie
Souly
no u
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Short-term problems can include: Lack of alertness. Even missing as little as 1.5 hours can have an impact on how you feel. Excessive daytime sleepiness. It can make you very sleepy and tired during the day. Impaired memory. Lack of sleep can affect your ability to think, remember and process information. Relationship stress. It can make you feel moody and you can become more likely to have conflicts with others. Quality of life. You may become less likely to participate in normal daily activities or to exercise. Greater likelihood for car accidents. Drowsy driving accounts for thousands of crashes, injuries and fatalities each year, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. If you continue to operate without enough sleep, you may see more long-term and serious health problems. Some of the most serious potential problems associated with chronic sleep deprivation are high blood pressure, diabetes, heart attack, heart failure or stroke. Other potential problems include obesity, depression, impairment in immunity and lower sex drive.
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monkalaugh 👍 coffee
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Souly I'm bored
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ye i think i do have memory problems actually troll
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And poor
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Help me
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hi bored im Souly
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Ryozuki
Short-term problems can include: Lack of alertness. Even missing as little as 1.5 hours can have an impact on how you feel. Excessive daytime sleepiness. It can make you very sleepy and tired during the day. Impaired memory. Lack of sleep can affect your ability to think, remember and process information. Relationship stress. It can make you feel moody and you can become more likely to have conflicts with others. Quality of life. You may become less likely to participate in normal daily activities or to exercise. Greater likelihood for car accidents. Drowsy driving accounts for thousands of crashes, injuries and fatalities each year, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. If you continue to operate without enough sleep, you may see more long-term and serious health problems. Some of the most serious potential problems associated with chronic sleep deprivation are high blood pressure, diabetes, heart attack, heart failure or stroke. Other potential problems include obesity, depression, impairment in immunity and lower sex drive.
usually sleeping short durations isn't a choice 😛
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aPES2_GaKeyboard aPES2_GaKeyboard aPES2_GaKeyboard
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I probably slept for 15 hours today in total
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Learath2
usually sleeping short durations isn't a choice 😛
yes
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i once tried to do a powernap and it didnt work at all until i needed to go to bed anyway. that evening sucked hard
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And now I'm in bed trying to fall asleep before 12am
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i can also sometimes sleep too much but not straight
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i managed to find a way to fall alseep evenw hen im not tired. but its hard to explain and hard to actually do anyway
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usually its like going to sleep 2-3 times in a row
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.-.
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ive slept for an entire day once like that
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Souly
i can also sometimes sleep too much but not straight
So gay
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Im 'corneum
i managed to find a way to fall alseep evenw hen im not tired. but its hard to explain and hard to actually do anyway
wish i could do that
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You sleep gay, is that what you're implying?
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i remember when i had a sleep issues and i still had to go to school
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TsFreddie
So gay
The truth is that if
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and i wasnt sleeping when i should sleep but only started to get sleeping after school start
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really terrible
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Good thing I'm out of school now
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just inject urself with anesthetics
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-04-06 15:47:15Z
No
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The america way
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-04-06 15:47:25Z
That is not a healthy way to sleep
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Souly
wish i could do that
you have to actively NOT think about anything. whenever you notive that you have a controled thought just stop yourself. after a while your brainw ill show you pictures and scenes that you didnt control. thats what you need to listen too. i try to describe to myself what i see, and after a while it turns into a dream. i can do it in 20 minutes or so
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louis
just inject urself with anesthetics
i did actually do that a lot
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louis
just inject urself with anesthetics
Hey luis, are you the one from the Youtube channel?
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taking like 5 pills at once justatest
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No one live healthy when you are 15 I'm guessing.
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Im 'corneum
you have to actively NOT think about anything. whenever you notive that you have a controled thought just stop yourself. after a while your brainw ill show you pictures and scenes that you didnt control. thats what you need to listen too. i try to describe to myself what i see, and after a while it turns into a dream. i can do it in 20 minutes or so
20mins is so much
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Im 'corneum
you have to actively NOT think about anything. whenever you notive that you have a controled thought just stop yourself. after a while your brainw ill show you pictures and scenes that you didnt control. thats what you need to listen too. i try to describe to myself what i see, and after a while it turns into a dream. i can do it in 20 minutes or so
When i play a new game for rly long time it makes it rly hard to not think
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TsFreddie
No one live healthy when you are 15 I'm guessing.
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-04-06 15:48:33Z
Yes that isn't a time which you should lose on health 😎
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Oh hey, louis is now a famous YouTuber
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EliuWinter
Hey luis, are you the one from the Youtube channel?
yes
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Im 'corneum
you have to actively NOT think about anything. whenever you notive that you have a controled thought just stop yourself. after a while your brainw ill show you pictures and scenes that you didnt control. thats what you need to listen too. i try to describe to myself what i see, and after a while it turns into a dream. i can do it in 20 minutes or so
I have 2 much easier methods that require much less control over your thoughts
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A good 30 min fap and u sleep ez
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Learath2
I have 2 much easier methods that require much less control over your thoughts
1 is drinking until you black out, the other is staring at a wall for 4 hours until you pass out
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Im 'corneum
you have to actively NOT think about anything. whenever you notive that you have a controled thought just stop yourself. after a while your brainw ill show you pictures and scenes that you didnt control. thats what you need to listen too. i try to describe to myself what i see, and after a while it turns into a dream. i can do it in 20 minutes or so
i could litteraly lay in bed with the most comfortable position i could get, thinking of nothing and still while laying like that for 2-3 hours i couldn't fall asleep
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Ryozuki
A good 30 min fap and u sleep ez
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-04-06 15:49:13Z
30 min?monkaS
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@louis Oh I really like your channel, can you greet me in any video?
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-04-06 15:49:20Z
How can someone last so much
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When I really need to sleep I just put on a 5 hour long speedrun
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Souly
i could litteraly lay in bed with the most comfortable position i could get, thinking of nothing and still while laying like that for 2-3 hours i couldn't fall asleep
Do you have something you get bored of easily?
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Learath2
Do you have something you get bored of easily?
life
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
How can someone last so much
Its about preparing it
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EliuWinter
@louis Oh I really like your channel, can you greet me in any video?
lol maybe if you're on the server when i'm recording it might happen
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Ryozuki
A good 30 min fap and u sleep ez
I can sleep in Under10min without anything
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but my uploads are a little inactive rn
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Finding the perfect thing
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Souly
i could litteraly lay in bed with the most comfortable position i could get, thinking of nothing and still while laying like that for 2-3 hours i couldn't fall asleep
that happens to me only when i think about situations and life in general. its hard to stop yourself but its worth it
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Is an art
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Souly
life
ADHD
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im not even joking
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im bored af
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all the time
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I'm not joking either. That's probably adhd
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nothing happens, well, nice to meet you @louis
happy 2
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i think i got diagnosed with it when i was younger
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yes we are all mentaly illlol
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Im 'corneum
yes we are all mentaly illlol
i am for sure
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why does everyone need a diagnosis
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cuz im not a doctor
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I never went to any mental clinic
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You play a game about balls moving and using a hook yes ur mentally done foe
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Souly
life
I meant something like an action, e.g. I'm easily bored of reading philosophy or watching the same youtube video for the 20th time
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We all playing tw so we are intelligent
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TsFreddie
I never went to any mental clinic
i was and there is no fucking way im going there again
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i hate those
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During times when I sleep like shit I usually turn off all the lights except my reading light and read boring stoicism arguments until I get very sleepy
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honestly i think not thinking about stuff can be really healthy. if your always worried it cant be good. thats why you see people who live unhealthy live longer than they should
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Learath2
I meant something like an action, e.g. I'm easily bored of reading philosophy or watching the same youtube video for the 20th time
i dont think that i have anything which particularly bores me
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Learath2
During times when I sleep like shit I usually turn off all the lights except my reading light and read boring stoicism arguments until I get very sleepy
Read the systemd docs
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poggers
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Pro grammer move
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Souly
i dont think that i have anything which particularly bores me
u can watch 0.7 being developed troll
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Oh god no
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Don't look at my code plz
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Im 'corneum
honestly i think not thinking about stuff can be really healthy. if your always worried it cant be good. thats why you see people who live unhealthy live longer than they should
imagine being worried 24/7
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The only way for me to fall asleep nowdays is to always have some kind of background noise, like a TV running/Music or random youtube videos :/ (edited)
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yeah just ignore your problems lamao
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what's even worse is that i have nothing interesting in life but still i am too lazy to do something interesting
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Okay, try reading, it's fairly boring, if you are not getting bored of the book get a more boring book
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it's like a boring life loop
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Learath2
Okay, try reading, it's fairly boring, if you are not getting bored of the book get a more boring book
bible
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Ryozuki
Read the systemd docs
That's how you get eye cancer, I'd like to avoid that
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Souly
it's like a boring life loop
Get a hobby
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Wait why are you taking about sleeping, I thought I'm the only one at night
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Ryozuki
Get a hobby
i like to beat my meat
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Souly
it's like a boring life loop
play chess
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Nooback
play chess
wtf chess is cool
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Chinese chess
15:54
Highly recommend
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@Souly do something you hate. do it for an hour and see how much you want to go back and watch videos again
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@TsFreddie how do you play Chinese chess
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if you always want the good stuff then how can you enjoy it anymore
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Mahjong
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It's pretty similar to chess tbh
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Souly
@TsFreddie how do you play Chinese chess
you play chess with chinese guys
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Im 'corneum
@Souly do something you hate. do it for an hour and see how much you want to go back and watch videos again
i also dont think that i have something which i really hate
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play weeb gacha mahjong
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@Souly play dota 2
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mahjong is cool
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Souly
i also dont think that i have something which i really hate
go outside now and dig a hole.
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bcs it sucks
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i dont wanna go outside cuz there is sun
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or go running
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and bury yourself alive
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learn piano
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Souly
what's even worse is that i have nothing interesting in life but still i am too lazy to do something interesting
So there is not a single thing on earth that interests you?
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Poor life
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A blend of cute, appealing anime girls with classical Japanese Mahjong.
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Im 'corneum
or go running
running good
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Learath2
So there is not a single thing on earth that interests you?
i like to play teeworlds for example but it doesn't really bring me much joy
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i dont go running
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Learath2
So there is not a single thing on earth that interests you?
He enjoys dad jokes apparently
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like anything now tbh
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louis
learn piano
I was going to get a nice keyboard for myself to learn, then I got a 600 euro tax thing which took away all the money I'd saved to start a new hobby 😛
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I played piano for 2 years
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hahhaha
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When I was 14 and I was late
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piano hard
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the asian played piano who would have guessed
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Do not recommend
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best things are those you need only one hand
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Im 'corneum
the asian played piano who would have guessed
Oof
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Learath2
I was going to get a nice keyboard for myself to learn, then I got a 600 euro tax thing which took away all the money I'd saved to start a new hobby 😛
justatest
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@TsFreddie you also know karate like any other Asian guy
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late? you are never really late for piano from what I hear
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u can play piano on a computer keyboard but it sucks a lot
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I mean sure you won't be brilliant, but you can have fun
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Souly
@TsFreddie you also know karate like any other Asian guy
Bruh. I have a black belt no cap
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TsFreddie
Bruh. I have a black belt no cap
justatest
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@Learath2 better learn guitar and get a girl like that XD
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piano > guitar
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Also black belt is pretty much the entry bar of korean karate tho
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louis
piano > guitar
guitar is easier tho
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would disagree
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So it's not like I can beat anyone with it
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just play the triangle to get girls
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I just have a certificate and a black piece of cloth
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Ama
@Learath2 better learn guitar and get a girl like that XD
I can already sort of play the guitar, but I forgot a lot and my hands are not nearly rough enough to get good notes anymore 😛
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I wish I knew how to play guitar
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But I don't need girls so whatever
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I've tried guitar for a couple of months but ended up with a 2 week long guitar tendinitis which made me quit
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Learath2
I can already sort of play the guitar, but I forgot a lot and my hands are not nearly rough enough to get good notes anymore 😛
get new hands
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i wish i would be consistent with something XD
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i think the tradeoff of learning a instrument is too small. youre never gonna be good enough to make money. idk about fun tho
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better to learn something than nothing
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@Im 'corneum same time put into a buisness and you earn lots of money
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yeah i waste my time with games bcs its fun
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instruments are fun
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tbh u can learn some easy nice sounding piano songs
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i also make no money with it but the tradeoff is okay
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I feel like programming as a hobby is the most easy to get into and the most "useful" one for boosting confidence in college.
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TsFreddie
I feel like programming as a hobby is the most easy to get into and the most "useful" one for boosting confidence in college.
i tried to start once. on day 2 i wiped my harddrive
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louis
tbh u can learn some easy nice sounding piano songs
still it sounds much better with 2 hands and using both of them seems so hard
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But after college I just feel like a piece of crap who don't know how to do anything else
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lol i tried to pick up guitar as a piano player and i couldnt
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i mean with programming you can make so much money with creative people around you
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Ama
i mean with programming you can make so much money with creative people around you
but with guitar you can make girls go crazy
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louis
lol i tried to pick up guitar as a piano player and i couldnt
Just get a vst kek
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15 year old gilrs not 25 year old girls XD
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with tw gores gameplay not?whenwwseeachild
justatest 1
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Ama
i mean with programming you can make so much money with creative people around you
Where is my money then
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Ama
15 year old gilrs not 25 year old girls XD
same thing
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if her age is on the clock she is ready to take the cock
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@TsFreddie do something thats usefull for people that make money online
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making a tool for affilate marketing would make you lots of money
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TsFreddie
I feel like programming as a hobby is the most easy to get into and the most "useful" one for boosting confidence in college.
nonononono, avoid programming like the plague
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especially if you are young
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Learath2
nonononono, avoid programming like the plague
why
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That's what I was trying to say
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I don't like it after college.
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you'll end up obsessed with C standard revisions and end up with 3 friends who can tolerate your chatter about how C11 threads not being implemented by gcc is ruining C
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what is running what
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i hate programming theory
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The entry bar is so low it is deceiving
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and i dont have friends so it shouldn't be an issue
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that's even worse, if you start programming you are doomed to never have any
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eeh seems fine to me
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except other programmers
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which will only want to chat about programmer things over food
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i feel more calm without friends than when i had them
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Btw if you want to make video games. Never start with programming
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TsFreddie
Btw if you want to make video games. Never start with programming
why
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Making a tool that crosspost a Picture with links across 5 social media platforms and maybe a blogpost would make you insane money if you would make it as a monthly payment service
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on a more serious note, programming is indeed very fun and you should try it if you are interested, but don't expect it to fix your life 😛
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You don't need it. And you'd better off spending your time learning art and music.
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wow i have the specs to dev videogames justatest
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Picking up programming is easier than picking up art
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justatest
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I heard you shouldn't go into game dev
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too many passionate people
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the market sucks apparently
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but i think its a good hobby
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i wouldnt do it as a profession
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unless u can pump out tons of mobile ad-infested games
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kek I went to a game dev seminar in college, and every speaker there is suicidal I feel like.
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i heard that there are some programmers who made special programs for app developing and sold them to some companies earning a good amount of money, basically program works like those blocks which you out together to create a code (simmilar to scratch)
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TsFreddie
kek I went to a game dev seminar in college, and every speaker there is suicidal I feel like.
justatest
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heinrich5991
too many passionate people
results of which is extreme overworking and constant risk of losing your job from what I hear
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troll What if you don't get a job to begin with
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i actually made some taco platformer on scratch years ago
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Im 'corneum
Click to see attachment 🖼️
ye something like this
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it seems like making specialized game developing programs like tileset tools, adaptive music tracks and stuff instead of making games yourself is a pretty good profession.
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So you can sell your work to crush other people's dreams.
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adaptive music very cool
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i want to make a rhythm gmae
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using that
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Well fuck me then, rhythm game is programming heavy than other games I guess.
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TsFreddie
it seems like making specialized game developing programs like tileset tools, adaptive music tracks and stuff instead of making games yourself is a pretty good profession.
i heard it from my teacher and he said that some companies use those kind of softwares and its easy to work with
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you just need a paper to show that youve finished school and you dont even need to use real coding there
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just placing block following simple logic
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I once wrote a rhythm game chart converter, which is one of the most math heavy thing I've ever dealt with
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I'd be glad to inform you about rhythm game algorithms if you wanted to go that route lol (edited)
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louis
adaptive music very cool
one of my favourite examples of adaptive/evolving music is nier automata
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Also you won't believe how close you need to get to the metal to code a good rhythm game engine with low enough latency.
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justatest
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@TsFreddie they usually all rely on low level mouse and keyboard hooks instead of SDL and stuff right?
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i feel like a music where music is constantly playing would be cool n all
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Learath2
@TsFreddie they usually all rely on low level mouse and keyboard hooks instead of SDL and stuff right?
If a rhythm game has a key sound then usually yes (edited)
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Although there are games that uses game engines like djmax respect.
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Which works fine on ps4. But it is really bad latency wise on windows
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And there are games that just don't give a shit. (Friday night funkin)
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lol i noticed that friday nigth funkin felt different
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by low level mouse and keyboard hooks do u mean like getting the raw input as soon as possible or
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Friday night funkin is so poorly programmed I can't believe it went viral
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its pretty popular game recently, ive also seen that its open source
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i think the notes to voice was neat (altho its been seen before) and also it has meme capability
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TsFreddie
Friday night funkin is so poorly programmed I can't believe it went viral
probably because of newgrounds and modders
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ive seen those mod presentation videos of that game
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its making a huge views
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well amogus is meh too and it went super viral
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I thought of re coding the engine with their assets before. Then I stopped myself because why bother (edited)
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louis
by low level mouse and keyboard hooks do u mean like getting the raw input as soon as possible or
SetWindowsHookEx is the API I meant
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(with WH_KEYBOARD_LL that is)
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it happens before almost anything
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i remember doing some coding class in middle school with watered down javascript
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i miss stuff like if (mouseDown) feelsbadman
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Recently (in the past two years or so) konami's arcade rhythm games all switched to WASAPI's exclusive mode for the least latency. (edited)
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now when i look at teeworlds code its like cGrabInput::player->someOtherFunction())())() (edited)
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louis
i remember doing some coding class in middle school with watered down javascript
you played some sort of programming games on those classes?
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like the khanacademy "javascript" stuff
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and scratch ofc :)
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more the former tho
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hm iirc if you use exclusive mode there is no mixing happening so you can't hear any other sounds, right?
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Those are arcade machines tho so it make sense (edited)
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So they get to feed the audio buffer directly to the speaker.
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i had a coding like class once and we played this game
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Which is pretty magical the first time I've run it on my pc. The latency is so low it is almost like playing an instrument (edited)
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Microsoft has a game development game too, called kodu, based on XNU
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you can make some fairly cool stuff in it
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louis do you play any japanese rhythm games?
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Like konami or sega ones
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Learath2
which will only want to chat about programmer things over food
I dont chat about programming Kappa
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stopdude
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The crusade for rust PES_ElonMusk
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PES_ElonMusk
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PES_ElonMusk ferris_bongo PES_ElonMusk
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deus vult
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TsFreddie
louis do you play any japanese rhythm games?
no
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Touhou ayaya
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im addicted to osu justatest
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Japanese games are pretty cool tho
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They made final fantasy
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And lot of jrpgs
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I love jrpg
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aPES2_GaKeyboard
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@Ryozuki weebo
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osu might as well be japanese from all the weebs that play it monkaS
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but i should probably try other rhythm games
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weebs invaded osu
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i dont rly like the 4-key stuff anymore
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I need games like screeps but that are better
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when rhythm maps is tw
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Ryozuki
I need games like screeps but that are better
lol i saw screeps b4
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i think iw as too late to get into it tho
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I need zachtronics to make their new game
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@Ryozuki play octopath traveller yet?
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Best game company
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Learath2
@Ryozuki play octopath traveller yet?
woowow this one is good
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Learath2
@Ryozuki play octopath traveller yet?
Not yet since it is 60€ and im lazy to pirate it
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the graphics are brilliant
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There is nothing more briliant and nerd than zachtronicd games
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U have to read zines
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Amazing experience all around
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I love it
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Play exapunks
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Souly
the graphics are brilliant
Soundtrack is excellent too
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louis
i dont rly like the 4-key stuff anymore
what about 10 keys SquenceStorm
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Ryozuki
Not yet since it is 60€ and im lazy to pirate it
Piracy is big illegal
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how does 10 keys work o_o
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@Ryozuki you are gonna go to jail for clicking that download button
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lol i pirated factorio
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I played musedash and osu for a while, but I just dont seem to have the time to actually get better at them
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TsFreddie
what about 10 keys SquenceStorm
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musedash is lowkey hentai xd
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louis
lol i pirated factorio
Why would you do this to one of the best small developers out there?
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i bought it thinking it would be a neat game but then i played it for a bit
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i mean factorio isn't really protected.
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louis
musedash is lowkey hentai xd
It's ecchi at most :P
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xd well i didnt play it for long, im not paying 30
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imo its ok to pirate to try stuff out
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but if u play it for long then u should buy
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they have a demo IIRC
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what if u dont have a lot money
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TsFreddie
i mean factorio isn't really protected.
Which really shows how the game being good is much more important than anything really
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jao
what if u dont have a lot money
I mean I get it for AAA titles with outrageous prices but everyone can save 10-20€ for a game
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everyone in western europe at the very least
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wha tusually happens is i pirate something, i like it, but then i want steam multiplayer so i have to buy it
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Learath2
Which really shows how the game being good is much more important than anything really
I like that cd projekt also has that kind of confidence then get crushed by cyberpunk 2077
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jao
what if u dont have a lot money
then you go to a shop and steal apples
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what if u want to play more than 1 game
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jao
what if u want to play more than 1 game
Buy xbox game pass (edited)
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I doubt you have too little money jao 😉
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jao
what if u want to play more than 1 game
Eh. I mean you are not entitled to other peoples work for free just b/c you want to enjoy more than one game
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But its sad to see demos mostly disappearing
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I wish we got to try games more before paying
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steam basically has demos
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you can get a refund if you don't play for long
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i remember when i was little i pirated games since my mom didn't want me buying stuff justatest
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heinrich5991
you can get a refund if you don't play for long
Dont you only get a couple refunds tho?
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heinrich5991
you can get a refund if you don't play for long
ye this is actually good feature i refunded risk of rain 2 since my computer couldn't run it
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I remember when I was little I pirated games because I'm chinese and I don't know I need to buy them.
justatest 2
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i remember playing pirated spore and then actually buying it and not playing anymore
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louis
i remember when i was little i pirated games since my mom didn't want me buying stuff justatest
Kids I understand, adults not being able to save 20€ is a little beyond my comprehension
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well adults need to pay a lot for living for example
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For real tho, I don't know steam is a thing before high school
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spore had insane drm stuff
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I guess there are people that tight on budget but they live outside eu and get special prices to reflect their relative poorness
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And I never heard of playstation or xbox back then
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what im ok with is musicians pirating music software actually xd
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the prices on those are insane
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its like the adobe suite, nobody buys that except companies
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If you are within the eu and are literally not saving any money after expenses, I think you are doing something wrong while budgeting
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i never paid for music and there is no way im gonna do it
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I bought a signature license for fl studio
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Now I'm in debt
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i just got used to listening music for free too much
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louis
its like the adobe suite, nobody buys that except companies
Adobe are absolute fuckers with their subscription shit
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yee i have like the $300 vers but thats just cus my parents can buy it, if i was living alone i would never buy that crap
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and dont even talk about the $2000 plugins
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Its soooo expensive and you never actually get to own the software
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like thats so stupid
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itslike paying a subscription fee for a t-shirt (edited)
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I'd easily pay 1k€ for the entire adobe collection if it meant I owned the software, but I wont pay 20€ a month until I die, sorry
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Anyone want cracked adobe? vposy usually upload them to a cloud drive which happens to be the one my ISP provide for free. So it is pretty fast.
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justatest
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I really hoped affinity photo was as good as photoshop, but sadly it's very lacking :(
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i think i can get free adobe suite from my sister since she gets it free at her college feelsamazingman
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I almost bought affinity photo
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Darktable on the other hand is excellent if any of you are interested in photography
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But I don't like how it feels
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TsFreddie
I almost bought affinity photo
I have it on my iPad. I use it to edit photos where I cant be assed to carry my laptop
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As you said I dont like how it feels either
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inkscape and gimp is all u need
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instagram + snapchat
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It is funny that almost every nerd know how to use photoshop.
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i dont like insta
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Gimp is not a replacement to photoshop. It can do a lot but it has such a clunky interface and some of the most roundabout ways of doing things that are trivial on photoshop
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Gimp really needs a revolution like blender. Blender 2.8 made it a bliss to use
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If gimp has a blender 2.8 moment that'd be a game changer
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oh ye gimp ui is so wack
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the selection makes me rage too
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i want to learn blender 3d rendering for cool videos but too lazy
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What even happened to blender tho. Open-source projects almost never went this way.
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Idk they suddenly got some perspective, maybe some corporate donors that are annoyed with AutoDesk?
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TsFreddie
What even happened to blender tho. Open-source projects almost never went this way.
wym
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Lol that would make so much sense.
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AutoDesk and Maxon had a deathgrip in the 3d space for a decade now
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Dump 10 years worth of autodesk subscription to blender's fund sounds like a reasonable investment to mejustatest
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Yep, if 2-3 companies think that way it can fund a whole lot of development
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louis
inkscape and gimp is all u need
f3
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that really seems like enough for me
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imo open-source programs usually can't complete with commercial products in a industry leading way. Blender is on its way of doing just that
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Inkscape is actually better than illustrator, imo. Very rare that the open source variant of a creative product is better
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My favorite vector graphic software is actually photoshop pen tools ngl
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rip open source daws lol
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(Though I do veeery little work with vector graphics, so my opinion might not be very accurate)
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Godot is getting pretty good too. Although the godot 4 drag race is pretty tedious
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I did some text with outline in gimp a couple days ago. I honestly wanted to die by the time I was done
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Godot's lead programmer is also started to step down(or up) as a overseer now too
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Open source game engines are quite far from the commercial offerings for now imo
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Unreal, unity and cryengine are sooo far ahead of the pack that it's very unlikely anyone catches up
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I abandoned unity two years ago. And started to try out Godot. So far I'm liking what godot is doing tbh
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help someone is tapping their foot on a chair leg near me and it sounds like the teeworlds grapple sound
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I've been using unreal for a while now, mostly for toy games and honestly it's one of the few things I'll admit I just cant top in my lifetime. I could spend 70 years on a game engine and it wouldnt perform/look/work half as well as unreal
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louis
help someone is tapping their foot on a chair leg near me and it sounds like the teeworlds grapple sound
Tell him to stop spamming hook
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With unity you can't get to the internal of the engine like at all. Godot's engine module system is really straight forward, I can code an entire low level audio engine inside of it. Although I'm pretty sure unreal can be worked on the same way.
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Ah unity is like that indeed
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With unreal you have all the source
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But yeah, graphic wise. Unreal is really unbeatable
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The graphics pipeline they put together and how well it works on all targets is astonishing
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Unity can be made to look pretty. Unreal looks pretty out of the box
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Although it is pretty easy to tell the unrealness of a game from a small studio now since unreal is now cheaper and easier to use than before.
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I can usually spot the engine of smaller studios yeah
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Whether it be unity, unreal or cryengine
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Poor godot haven't had a blockbuster game yet
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I couldnt tell you what specifically I'm looking for, but I definitely can tell from the look
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Almost every godot dev that I've talk to is waiting for godot 4 lol.
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Either they are halting their development for godot 4 and focusing prototypibg and assets, or they are making it with godot 3 right now with no intention of releasing a game with it.
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why do i feel like all 3d games are the same
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either fps or horror
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lol
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Because they are in a way
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justatest
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super mario 64
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But I mean. Ori and the will of the wisps is technically 3d
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ok, fps, horror, and nintendo
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portal 2
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is that fps?
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You shoot portals so yeah
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What about fez
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ok ok fps horror, nintendo, and puzzle
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trackmania
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but that's basically all
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and racing
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why do i feel like all 2d games are the same
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but i dont like car games anyways
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either platformer or troll
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Will we run out of video games gimmicks and genres one day?
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i rly like high action/speed games
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Sonic?
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justatest
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m not like that
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hard to describe cus i feel there arent many
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My favorite games so far are portal 2, botw and kingdom come deliverance
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stuff where u need to be pressing lots of buttons basically
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excluding starcraft II
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So rhythm games(
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Lots of buttons
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devil may cry maybe
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And any platinum games I guess?
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some rhythm gmaes yea
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Action games with high precision and high apm
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i liked brawlhalla too even tho thats kinda slow for a fighting game
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I really started to enjoy slower games after botw I think
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I use to hate rpgs, all of them.
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But after breath of the wild, I get to finish kingdom come, which is hella slow.
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Then I never played any AAA games after that lol
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The last game I really really enjoyed was Hollow Knight
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before that Nier Automata
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justatest I don't like either of those for some reason (edited)
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yeah i liked hlow knight art style but couldnt get past the first map or whatever
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a little boring imo (edited)
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it can get a tad complex, but boring maybe if you are stuck in the first area
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yeah i was just slicing beetles or whatever and just rq'ed
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metroidvanias take a certain kind of person, but I really enjoy the starting with nothing and building up your abilities
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it also has one of the best OSTs out there
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i enjoy starting with no skill and building skill i guess
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i think a good game gives both of that, skill for the game and also power inside the game
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I wanted to make a game that plays like hyper light drifter but you get your abilities and weapons by capturing enemies like pokemon
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justatest I don't like either of those for some reason (edited)
Nier Automata has I think one of the best stories ever told inside a video game and it also has I think the best OST ever
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like I haven't seen anything come close to it soundtrack wise
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I watched nier's speedrun.
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The original nier?
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I mean nier automata. I like the game as what it is. But I don't want to play it.
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Besides neither gestalt nor automata are good speedrunning games, it is really story heavy
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Also I don't like how it is challenging my sexuality
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platinumgames' combat is extremely fun imo, but even if you don't like it there is so much narrative there
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TsFreddie
Also I don't like how it is challenging my sexuality
robosexual? 😛
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Too much ass I guess lol
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OST wise. I really like sonic mania and cook serve delicious for some reason.
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I think you should give it a try, just play it until you get to the amusement park, it's about an hour or so of gameplay, if you aren't hooked you won't like it anyway
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If I don't think I'll like a game that is liked by other people I usually give it an hour or so, just to see if I'll get attached to it
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justatest Well the problem is that I don't really play games now (edited)
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me neither 😛
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Too much guilt building up while playing a game
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Just started playing outer wilds though because a friend told me it's absolutely amazing and I made an exception for that
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It's seriously good btw, if you like space and a mystery great narrative
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Maybe if I get a stable job and forget about making games I would be down to play some gems
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kek
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@TsFreddie careful with burnout btw, taking some time to do other things really helps
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I really don't have the time for it but I read a book for an hour every morning and play an hour or so of games at night. It atleast makes you feel like you aren't doing a single thing
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(I used to watch a movie instead of gaming but had to start outer wilds 😛 )
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I just came back from traveling so I'm prepared
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toptri
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I'm probably supposed to be studying like 18 hours a day 😛
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the amount of shit I need to pack into 2 years would make your eyes bleed
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well 1 and a half years now
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Also I'm thinking about doing ludumdare 48 this month so I can do something else while still doing what I'm supposed to be practicing
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eh that doesn't really break the monotonicity but I guess better than nothing 😛
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Plus it's the 48th of ld48 which is kinda special.
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I took part in maybe 5 ludumdares, and I only truly finished 1 of them which is meh
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justatest
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I really hope I can make it this time
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hopes and prayers to you my friend
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I need to make food and consume it within like 10 minutes
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As a chinese, leftover rice is a must for a quick meal
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troll
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out of leftover rice
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made it all into fried rice
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it's also not very wise to keep leftover rice for too long
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so to have a consistent supply of it I'd need to have rice every 3-4 days
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which doesn't actually sound that bad, hm
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I have rice every day sooooo
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I should up my xia fan cai game, I don't have nearly enough rice pairings to keep it interesting every day
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I have something huge planned for tomorrow, I'll do fresh soymilk and tofu
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Well we make dishes.. rice is just symbolic carbs
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took so long to get everything ready and I even considered synthesising gypsum for a while but finally have everything I need 😛
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TsFreddie
Well we make dishes.. rice is just symbolic carbs
yeah ofc, but there are dishes that pair well with rice and there are dishes that don't
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I guess
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I guess most of the chinese dishes do go well with rice though, hm
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atleast the ones I'm familiar with
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Yeah...
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Well not all of them for sure
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need to learn more chinese cooking in general but so annoying to do wok cooking inside with a european stove, need to almost always make my stir fries in parts
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If you just stir fry some vagitables with salt and pepper it probably doesn't go well with rice.
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justatest
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But usually it is ok if there are enough "cook juice" if you know what I mean 😂
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yes, you want juicy dishes with rice
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But tbh I'm not even good at cooking
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heh one of my favourite lazy things to eat is just rice with lao gan ma on top 😛
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justatest my mom usually cook so I don't get any chance.
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And yes I'm 26 and my mom still cooks for me.
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TsFreddie
justatest my mom usually cook so I don't get any chance.
I live alone so no mum to cook for me 😦
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and tbf my mum doesn't cook much either, grandma does all the cooking
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But I mean she didn't get to cook for me for 6 years. So I guess it is fine, even though I'm 25 now.
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justatest
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Which is what I tell myself every meal
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well if you are living with them, why would you bother learning to cook?
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justatest Because maybe I should cook for them for once
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make them rice, very simple
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Oh I make my rice everyday.
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justatest she cook the dishes, I make the rice. That's usually how it goes everyday
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I used to hate my mom's cooking when I was a kid.
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Now I have no idea why I didn't like it.
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huh, interesting
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Maybe it's just a teenager thing. I don't even know.
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I used to not enjoy some of the more traditional foods when I was a kid, but with time I got to start appreciating them
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funnily enough, probably some childhood trauma, there are still some I can't eat at all and I'd try much more insane things abroad
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also I seems to have a under developed memory that I can't remember anything before high school. So I don't really remember anything before 16 which is weird.
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well I recently started to lose some things from elementary, makes sense that in about 4 years I'd forget most things before hs
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I just know I don't like my mom's cooking but I don't even remember my mom ever cooking for me. Lol
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And I still hang out with my two only friends in middle school which is the only two person I still remember in that period. I don't remember my teachers' names, which class I was in or who are my classmates.
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Learath2
well I recently started to lose some things from elementary, makes sense that in about 4 years I'd forget most things before hs
Do you feel like you've lost them? Like you remember remembering them.
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I don't feel like I've lost them. I always feel like I just didn't had memory before then.
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Which is definitely not possible justatest
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TsFreddie
Do you feel like you've lost them? Like you remember remembering them.
There are some specific ones that I actually remember remembering
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Some of it is proper gone
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I still remember the most significant ones tho
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Learath2
I still remember the most significant ones tho
I guess that's how memory works
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I must have a boring childhood lol
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Its old and thus irrelevant, I can see the brain getting rid of some of it
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I clearly remember the time we threw rocks over some fence and broke a guys cars window
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He told us he would fuck us until we died 😛
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I do remember my 4th birthday which I remember having a old chemically developed photo that exposed twice. But I think thats the only memory of me remembering anything before 16.
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I don't remember the actual birthday. I remember having the photo that has a ghost of me. Which is probably lost.
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Sometimes I have key realizations. Like a lost memory but I remember one fragment of it and the brain just figures out the rest
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Its so complicated how we store and access memories
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There is a certain smell that will take me instantly back to the beach when I was like 13
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Maybe it backed it up on tape storage since it is cheaper, last longer and has slower access rate.
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troll
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No I upload it to amazon glacier
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Do you still remember your first line of code?
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i bet his first line of code remembers him xd
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@Learath2 check out AV: Rings of Saturn
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Made with godor
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Godot
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I enjoyed it
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I was told that I started to learn programming when I was 11. But I don't remember anything. I know it was pascal tho, since I have my pascal minesweeper source code from middle school, but I don't remember write it, even though it has like 1k lines.
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justatest
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Which is really weird
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I think programming ruined my brain
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TsFreddie
Which is really weird
why it is? (edited)
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TsFreddie
Do you still remember your first line of code?
Yes
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Rust is increasing my brain 5Head
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It was creating a shockwave flash player object in vb
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I dont remember
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The first thing I ever made was a trainer for some shitty flash game
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gerdoe
why it is? (edited)
I don't know. It is weird that I found a piece of code that I don't remember writing with a language I don't know much about anymore.
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remember that someone started with brainfuck as first language
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Lol such an awful first language
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Truly brain fucking for a first language
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Vb is my first, C second
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I actually still don't know how to write brainfuck
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Should I know tho?
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Learath2
Vb is my first, C second
For me it's pascal -> vb.net -> c
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I skipped vb for some reason.
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TsFreddie
Should I know tho?
Vb6 is what I meant by vb btw
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Ah wrong reply
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TsFreddie
Should I know tho?
actually no, but i think you can troll interviewers on hiring for big company xd
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Ye I know
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I think I learn vb.net because I don't know how to code gui and .net winform is magic in visual studio
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kek
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Well I still don't know how to code gui. Every time I need a gui for something I just use web.
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Web is a sin
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TsFreddie
Well I still don't know how to code gui. Every time I need a gui for something I just use web.
I usually go for qt
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I've heard good things about qt, but I never needed it irl.
18:26
Web nowadays is just too convenient. I hated it but I can't stop myself from it.
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Tbf, I love clis so I rarely do gui
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hi pascal o/ @TsFreddie
18:47
@Learath2 nier automata, what kind of game is it? fps?
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Uh it's a platinum games title, its like bayonetta or metal gear rising if you played either
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no
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Hack and slash I guess
18:49
Again even if you dont enjoy the gameplay much the story is exquisite
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@noname ?
22:23
fkurhughjanus69
22:23
"password invalid" ragouis
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-04-06 22:39:45Z
nouis
23:38
tees go as early as 2003?
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