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DDraceNetwork
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Between 2021-03-23 00:00:00Z and 2021-03-24 00:00:00Z
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[quakenet] Yi BOT 2021-03-23 05:22:21Z
hello Deen
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 05:58:27Z
hello Deen
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to summon deen u need to type: need deen
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You need to sacrifice 3 tees for deen to appear
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 07:24:27Z
YI: hi
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Ryozuki
You need to sacrifice 3 tees for deen to appear
fng time
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 07:57:32Z
I've gotten your email and responded. But we can also chat here if you prefer
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 08:51:44Z
hello deen
08:51
sorry was in a meeting
08:51
just saw ur email and message
08:52
are u still there?
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 08:52:31Z
yes
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 08:52:37Z
ok,cool
08:53
first, appoligize for made a demo and post the page without tlking to u
08:53
i played DDrace over 400 hours and half an year, really like it
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 08:53:45Z
I think our license allows remixing etc, so that's fine
08:54
Great to hear that you enjoyed DDNet :)
08:54
I think it's a bit hard to make the game work on mobile though
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 08:54:53Z
really really hard
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 08:54:57Z
:D
08:55
We once had an Android version, and removed support for it again since it was only useful for watching
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 08:55:26Z
without mouse it is quite hard to do a lot of things
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 08:55:27Z
Accurate mouse input is super important, so not sure how to fix that
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 08:56:17Z
i like the idea players help each other, even for mobile they need a way to connect eachother
08:57
about ur email, i understand if we want to make it opensource and free to play, it is just that we have cost
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 08:58:09Z
Yeah, I figured
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 08:58:19Z
actually i made this demo alone by myself(program and art)
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 08:58:29Z
cool
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 08:58:33Z
and we have not decided how it will goes in the future
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 08:59:13Z
(btw, this channel is connected to our discord server, thus the people from bridge can communicate too)
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like me xD
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 08:59:47Z
at first we want to see if people like it, and in the future maybe make it a F2P game with in game purchase
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Hello from the other sideeeee
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:00:12Z
yeah, that's probably easier to make money with than pay-first
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:00:34Z
no, that is always not a best choice for mobile game
09:01
what i want to say is, at this time, we are not sure if we will go and finish the game, either make it open source like u suggested, or make it a commercial mobile game with in game purchse
09:02
if we choose the 2cd option, how should we get an authorize from you?
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:02:26Z
2cd?
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:02:48Z
if we make a Free to play game with in app purchase
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:02:50Z
Ah, if it's commercial, I don't think you should call it DDraceNetwork
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:03:15Z
we didn't called ddracenetwork and will not do it unless get ur permission
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:03:16Z
Would still be nice to credit DDNet, but other than that I think our license allows you to make a commercial game out of it already, so should be good to go
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:03:28Z
now the name is forest friends
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Plus you're not taking any code or assets. I think you are free to do whatever you want as long as it is not associated with ddnet or holds ddnet with liability.
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:05:48Z
well, if we are going to make it commercial, we'll do it properly, we want to make it in the right way, get ur permission, cradit DDnet etc
09:06
do u have wechat? or other way for easier communication? or email only?
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Discord I guess
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:06:41Z
I don't have wechat at the moment. If we need to communicate more, I can get it again I guess
09:06
Discord is blocked in China, isn't it?
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I mean I'm here😋
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:07:07Z
right, blocked
09:07
aha, ok, if u want to reach me email is ok, oh maybe ur chinese friend want to contact me that is also ok
09:08
i am ddrace player, we don't want to "steal ddrace" to earn money , we want to make it properly
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Nah. I don't have any say about the name "ddnet". Which sounds like your intent.
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:08:37Z
Sure, I understand and appreciate you reaching out
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:09:03Z
thx,mate
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I should leave you guys to it.
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:09:33Z
And making another game based on DDNet is a form of praise in my mind
09:09
TsFreddie: :D
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:09:47Z
and to let u know at this time, our demo is compleltely free and we trying to test on Taptap, and once we decide to make it open source or commercial, i'll keep you updated
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:10:00Z
Ok, cool
09:10
I don't have an Android phone to try it out unfortunately, but the video looked nice
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:11:11Z
i did give up a lot of things on mobile :(
09:11
the connection between 2 players do not break , to make it easy enough :P
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:11:39Z
Oh, and sorry about the guys giving bad ratings. Maybe it helps if you credit DDNet somewhere in the description
09:11
And some kind of autoaim to hit other players?
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:12:14Z
yeah, i'll add "ddrace discribtion" on our page if u allow us to do it
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:12:46Z
Something like "based on DDraceNetwork" is fine.
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:12:53Z
some kind of autoaim to hit other players? sorry i don't understand, my bad english :(
09:13
ok,will do it soon today
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I can translate
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:13:11Z
Thanks
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:13:32Z
actually this demo is toooooooooooo easy for DDrace players
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:13:52Z
Do you have to use the touchscreen to exactly aim at the other player? Or will the game help you hit the aim of hook perfectly?
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:14:51Z
yeah, i did that
09:15
and don't like it :(
09:15
anyway if u got a chance to test the demo and give ur suggestion will be great
09:16
i did added something more to make the game funny, not 100% copy
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:16:17Z
ok, nice
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:16:17Z
wish u'll like it
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There a video I can see? Just curious..
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:16:58Z
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:17:26Z
so i'll first add discription of DDrace on our page, and we'll continue for test the demo and see if chinese mobile player will like it
09:17
by the way, can we pose ur steam page link ?
09:17
on the page?
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:17:40Z
Yeah, sounds good. Good luck!
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I'd be careful about phrasing the credits tho
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:17:46Z
Yeah, sure, that would be nice too
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:17:51Z
ok
09:17
thx
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:17:56Z
TsFreddie: Why?
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I'm afraid of people attacking them depends on how they phrase the credit in chinese.
09:19
Chinese as a language is pretty weird when giving credits. I've seen it came across wrong before in other games.
09:21
not that I can make better description tho.
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:52:57Z
hello deen, i am back
09:53
was in a phone call
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:53:06Z
welcome back YI
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:53:07Z
onething want to make sure with u
09:54
can we write on our page " get permission to test this demo from DDrace team" ? to avoid other DDrace players for bad words
09:54
and as i mentioned, at this time , it is only free game test, if we will make it commercial later, we will tlk with u and ur team for official permission
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2021-03-23 09:56:29Z
YI can you show us what you have already? Do you have screenshots or a gameplay footage?
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 09:56:55Z
I think that sounds a bit too close to us cooperating, which is not accurate. I'd prefer something like "is based on DDraceNetwork, which allows modifying and redistributing the game". Since basically our license.txt already allows all of that
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ChillerDragon: video is here: https://www.taptap.com/app/211037
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2021-03-23 09:57:25Z
is it based on ddnet? Like using ddnet source code?
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:57:36Z
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09:57
there is a video
09:57
nope, it is by Unity
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2021-03-23 09:58:00Z
i see
09:58
haha the music is scary af
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 09:58:20Z
a lot of bugs i have to say :P
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2021-03-23 09:59:02Z
i mean if you rewrite the engine and change physics maybe you get it to work on mobile more smoothly
10:00
oh u plan to release on iOS?
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 10:00:21Z
thx for suggestion, at this demo we want to test if people like such game play on mobile first
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yo
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 10:01:04Z
about ios, no idea yet
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2021-03-23 10:01:15Z
10:01
:-)
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teeworlds to ios pog
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2021-03-23 10:01:43Z
multimap the game :D
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 10:02:00Z
ok, deen, understand, we'll update the page now
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i dont think its viable at all to have a game like ddnet in mobile unless to spectate people
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yeah gonna be cancer to play
10:02
but still... why not XD
10:02
if u just walk and jump and use hook to get over gaps, its ok
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 10:02:54Z
YI: thanks
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but u cannot make such an action loaded game ofc
10:02
but for actual dragging or stuff like that its bad
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 10:02:59Z
yeah it is super difficult to make it on mobile
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yeah
10:03
unless you use a dongle to connect keyb + mouse which is a option but why not just use a laptop (edited)
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i think the best way to "praise" ddnet by making another game is to do stuff like tsfreddie did
10:03
they fit much more a mobile game
10:04
in my opinion*
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that louis game? (edited)
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dude yeah
10:04
its so fun
10:04
i almost got WR for mobile xd
10:04
i spent so much time playing that shit
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i always wanted to make the game "Toss the turtle" but ddnet themed
10:05
i think it fits rly well for mobile
10:05
a classic
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do it
10:07
i want it
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 10:08:28Z
A Teeworlds / DDraceNetwork themed puzzle game
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lol, why mention that now.
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 10:09:06Z
Because Ryozuki referred to it
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oh i'm blind then
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The thing is mobile ddnet would be ok but we would need to make maps for mobile that are not too hard
10:13
I mean we have People playing ddnet with mousepad which is just crazy to me
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i know @Xyloae plays with macbook's trackpad.
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imagine ddnet phone edition
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imagine ddnet phone
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but it will need other servers and maps
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nouis i would kill for a mobile game that i can play fng on tho
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TsFreddie
nouis i would kill for a mobile game that i can play fng on tho
me too
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I USE HP
11:20
NOT MACBOOK EW
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Microsoft Corp. is in talks to acquire Discord Inc., a video-game chat community, for more than $10 billion, according to people familiar with the matter.
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"Microsoft in Talks to Buy Discord for More Than $10 Billion"
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they all have too much money xd
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I predict Discord will be renamed to "Teams for Gamers", similar to Lync being renamed to "Skype for Business" before 😄
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Xyloae
NOT MACBOOK EW
kekw. i auto connected trackpad to macbooks because pc usually have bad trackpads.
11:54
@TsFreddie surprise , it’s a hp laptop justatest
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one hand player! impressive
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Too laggy to record (edited)
11:54
Must use right hand with phone
11:55
feelsbadman
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Broke x_ skins, caused by https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/3214

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03c2caa Different comparators for skins in UI (no case) and regular skins (with case) - def- 823a917 Merge #3728 - bors[bot]
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Souly
me too
not me
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deen
I predict Discord will be renamed to "Teams for Gamers", similar to Lync being renamed to "Skype for Business" before 😄
oh no
13:04
well discord kinda did their "rebranding" to make it not gamer-ish
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ac6ae40 No negative count in server browser - def- 23a6c6e Merge #3718 - bors[bot]
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9f58b0f Set search field active when opening vote menu ingame - def- a4bb2f8 Switch back to using a stable sort - def- 02feecf Merge #3707 #3709 - bors[bot]
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 13:53:20Z
hello! Deen
13:53
finally the Editor approved our page changes, now the infos are visible on the page
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  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
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  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 13:55:18Z
YI: Thanks!
13:56
The reference to DDNet looks good
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 14:19:44Z
:P
14:21
personally i suggest DDNet make some easier map, it deserves much much more players like "Fall Guys"
14:21
just not so friendly for beginners
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 14:21:44Z
Yeah, we are aware it's our biggest problem
14:21
No tutorial, no good way to get started, too many hard maps on Novice
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 14:22:14Z
see, i played over 400 hours, and some maps i have to give up ....
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2021-03-23 14:22:52Z
This problem happened because we started as a Teeworlds mod, and the new players we would get were already Teeworlds pros. But now with new players coming in from Steam etc it makes no sense
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 14:22:54Z
but goodthing is there are lot of guys help beginners , never see in any other game
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Well most chn players come from steam. That's one of the problems in CHN servers. Players base are quite divided.
14:32
Beginners helping beginners kinda get us nowhere lol.
14:34
I wish I have more time to contribute, yet I spend my last bucket of free time on vanilla.
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TsFreddie
I wish I have more time to contribute, yet I spend my last bucket of free time on vanilla.
you should be proud because those text changes are looking hella good
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But it is a nightmare to completely optimize that thing if someone don't step in and make some GPU side optimization tho.
14:48
And still doesn't benefits most chn players rn
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 15:22:49Z
chn means chinese players?
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chn is coalition of human needs
15:25
ofc chn is china
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 15:25:52Z
okay
15:26
ur name is bridge right? and u manage chinese community?
15:27
sorry this chat channel is too complicated for me to understand which is nick name which is title etc.
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im on discord
15:33
@TsFreddie is managing actually, maybe not
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TsFreddie is name
15:34
I do manage chinese community along with some other og chn players.
15:35
You can find me in http://chat.teeworlds.cn
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15:37
I mean if you want to talk to me and irc is too confusing. You are free to join the discord as well if you know how, of course.
15:37
Which would be ddnet.tw/discord
15:38
YI: bridge just means that the message is coming from discord which is connected to the irc channel you are currently in
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[quakenet] YI BOT 2021-03-23 15:42:32Z
aha, i see
15:42
thx, i am coming to the link u sent
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cbdfa4f Clear up documentation of cl_dummy_control - def- a13dacd Move autoexec_server.cfg to data (fixes #3612) - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] New branch created: 15.4-devel
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[ddnet/ddnet-web] New branch created: pr-15.4
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DDNet 15.4 is supposed to release in 1 week, assuming no bad bugs are found. Please test Release Candidate 1 to prevent problems being only discovered after release. Report bugs in the #bugs channel or directly on Github:
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@Learath2 found a new good quote:
"Every programmer occasionally, when nobody's home, turns off the lights, pours a glass of scotch, puts on some light German electronica, and opens up a file on their computer. It's a different file for every programmer. Sometimes they wrote it, sometimes they found it and knew they had to save it. They read over the lines, and weep at their beauty, then the tears turn bitter as they remember the rest of the files and the inevitable collapse of all that is good and true in the world."
21:51
greenthing
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  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...
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7a479e7 Fix scrolling in controls settings with ui_scale < 100 (fixes #3727) - def-
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Microsoft is allegedly in talks to purchase Discord for over $10 billion USD. https://t.co/qoUelEaLbQ
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ye ive heard of it
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feelsbadman
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go guilded feelsamazingman
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the price is massive so im almost sure they will sell it
23:12
my school uses ms teams for their online classes
23:12
if microsoft gets discord maybe my school will see all the group chats of people cheating justatest
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