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GitHub BOT 2021-03-03 05:58:22Z
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l-ouis
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3667 fix controls for deepfly / 45 deg angle
they are broken if you do not have: mouse1 hammer mouse2 for deepfly and 200 sens and 400 mouse_max_distance for 45 degree angle this will break a lot of people's controls and they will be confused, should either be removed temporarily or fixed quickly. the binds should grab the key binded to those controls and use those instead of using presets. Also, maybe implement a single key for toggling deepfly similar to the hammerfly bind instead of having a separate key for on/off
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 08:56:05Z
https://github.com/Geal/nom im reimplementing my teestatus rust library using nom, a "a parser combinators library", looks kinda cool monkalaugh
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GitHub BOT 2021-03-03 09:12:13Z
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def-
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3668 Remove deepfly binds (fixes #3667)
Anyone have a better idea?

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
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  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/dd...
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Learath2 2021-03-03 10:34:38Z
Should we look into a language filter as an input to the spam filter?
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 10:36:20Z
wdym
10:36
language filter means a filter for bad words?
10:36
or a filter for x language
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NeXus 2021-03-03 10:57:42Z
@Ryozuki I mean they had their hype with fallguys and made ton of sales, now its pretty much a dead game and probably sold it for couple of mil $ to epic games. This guy can now chill for the rest of his life. Similar story with minecraft (edited)
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 10:58:00Z
monkalaugh
10:58
he could already chill with the steam sales alone
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NeXus 2021-03-03 10:58:56Z
Depending on his standards he wants to live. But maybe he just doesnt want to work anymore on this game (edited)
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 11:00:34Z
u understimate how much he sold on steam
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the game costs 20€
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he sold atleast 7M on steam
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NeXus 2021-03-03 11:01:40Z
cringe not even 1b
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 11:01:46Z
140M€ without the cut
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98M€ with the cut
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and its prob more cuz the cut lowers when u sell over x money
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NeXus 2021-03-03 11:02:20Z
yeah idk, I mean he will never get a deal like epic games again. But if he actually made so much I dont know why he sold
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 11:02:34Z
and its not like its a big studio
11:02
its 3 ppl iirc
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NeXus 2021-03-03 11:02:39Z
ik
11:02
its a guy who started in his moms basement lul (edited)
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 11:03:04Z
xd
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Learath2
Should we look into a language filter as an input to the spam filter?
fokkonaut 2021-03-03 11:09:52Z
idk, dick means just somebody's weight is a bit higher than usual in german for example
11:10
without context there will always be false positives
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Ryozuki
language filter means a filter for bad words?
Learath2 2021-03-03 11:34:17Z
Filter for bad words that just adds to a score. So maybe mods could deal with the spam by lowering the threshold for muting
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fokkonaut
without context there will always be false positives
Learath2 2021-03-03 11:34:52Z
That's why I don't propose we act on the information but just collect it as a datapoint
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gerdoe 2021-03-03 11:59:07Z
my name is Dick
justatest 1
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:12:01Z
They are proposing to restrict travel for unvaccinated people in europe. Isn't that an insane violation of freedom of movement especially when you cant even vaccinate everyone?
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Deleted User 2021-03-03 12:15:41Z
They can probably hide everything behind the infection protection laws
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:33:09Z
I would even be okay with it if they could provide vaccination to anyone who asked
12:33
Sounds very draconian to me as is :P
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:33:55Z
@Learath2 i mean most countries apply a lockdown where u cant even move to an other "sub region"
12:33
or whathever it is called
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:34:18Z
But there are exemptions to that
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:34:41Z
the royal family in spain got vaccinated ignoring completly the order rules of ppl who get vaccinated
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:34:41Z
From what I understand these vaccine passports will be a firm requirement except for people returning to their residences
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:34:47Z
talk about justice
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monkalaugh
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Ryozuki
the royal family in spain got vaccinated ignoring completly the order rules of ppl who get vaccinated
Learath2 2021-03-03 12:34:55Z
Didn’t they get a lot of shit for that?
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:35:07Z
@Learath2 they just did it today
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they went to the arab emirates
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xdd
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:35:37Z
Oh, hm. I distinctly remember someone in spain getting a lot of trouble for vaccinating early
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:35:38Z
https://www.elespanol.com/espana/20210302/infantas-pusieron-vacuna-abu-dabi-zarzuela-emerito/562945053_0.html
Elena y Cristina se pusieron la vacuna china en el viaje a Abu Dabi...
La Casa Real asegura que "el rey Felipe VI no es responsable de los actos de sus hermanas. Y tanto don Felipe como doña Letizia y sus hijas se vacunarán cuando les corresponda".
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its in spanish
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@Learath2 i guess the president
12:36
i dont remember
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:36:29Z
They really should have pressured these private companies to license out their vaccines to local producers
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:36:39Z
https://covidvax.live/
covidvax.live: Live COVID-19 Vaccination Tracker - See vaccinations...
See how quickly the COVID-19 vaccinations are being rolled out across the world and how long it will take to vaccinate the population.
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we are in 2021
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:36:44Z
Stupid capitalism delaying normalization again
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:36:53Z
and we cant even vacunate the world in a month
12:36
talk about shit
12:37
At this rate, 70% of the population could be vaccinated (2 doses) in 1,699 days (or by Oct 27, 2025).
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At this rate, Spain could have 70% of people vaccinated (2 doses) in 588 days (or by Oct 12, 2022).
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xd
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well poor countries will never reach 70% probs
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:37:59Z
This is like a crisis of proportions we won’t see again in a century and we hadn’t seen in a century. Yet we still couldn’t come together and get a public solution
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:38:10Z
yea
12:38
they should have made all current vaccine research public
12:38
im sure it would have been even faster
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:38:43Z
Btw, I’d be completely fine with it if they would meet their production deadlines
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:38:49Z
and idk why europe countries only vaccinate 100k ppl per day
12:38
why not more???
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:38:58Z
EU subsidized these companies HEAVILY. Yet they can’t deliver
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:39:03Z
ye
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our money
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xd
12:40
human greed sadge
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Learath2 2021-03-03 12:40:15Z
In italy our new technocrat govt says we are going to get to the general population only in early q3 and thats a big maybe
12:41
First shot in q3 means we are getting to be mostly immune by 2022. Which is an absolute failure imo
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 12:42:56Z
@heinrich5991 are you ok if i port libtw2 docs to the wiki, also do i need to mention you somewhere?
12:43
well i can add a reference like any wiki
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:12:02Z
@Learath2 look at this magic
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it works monkalaugh
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im using this technique https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parser_combinator
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🧙‍♂️
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Learath2 2021-03-03 13:25:18Z
Hm, which parsers does this combine?
13:25
Ah I see
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Cute
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:29:10Z
https://github.com/Geal/nom
Geal/nom
Rust parser combinator framework. Contribute to Geal/nom development by creating an account on GitHub.
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monkalaugh
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NeXus 2021-03-03 13:29:33Z
NoM nom nom
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:30:02Z
@Learath2 i can actually make it parse the info doing 0 copy
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poggers
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Learath2 2021-03-03 13:31:16Z
Well copy for parsing would be silly 😛
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Though I guess it’d be in spirit for most new languages
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:31:28Z
monkalaugh
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i mean
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when i put the data in the struct
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representing a sv
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it doesnt even need to copy there
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Learath2 2021-03-03 13:32:04Z
I have a huge huge problem
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:32:09Z
about rust?
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Learath2 2021-03-03 13:32:13Z
No
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:32:17Z
whats it
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Learath2 2021-03-03 13:32:21Z
More a logistical issue
13:32
See I made almost 7 liters of chicken stock
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:32:36Z
monkaS
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Learath2 2021-03-03 13:32:55Z
Then I remembered why I don't make so much anymore. It's because I dont have a second pot large enough to strain it into...
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:33:22Z
get a pot from amazon
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Learath2 2021-03-03 13:33:22Z
Wtf do I do even?
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:33:25Z
monkalaugh
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Learath2 2021-03-03 13:33:46Z
Lol, no amazon 1 hour delivery in turin
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Thats milan only for now
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:34:18Z
any supermarket should sell that
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Learath2 2021-03-03 13:34:46Z
Guess I can go out and look for a pot. Thanks for the advice
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 13:34:52Z
feelsbadman
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Learath2 2021-03-03 14:06:22Z
I just had an idea. Do you think maybe we should fuzz demos and maps? Maps crashing either the server or the client sounds rather bad
14:06
Fuzzing the client is harder but we can atleast do the server
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 14:27:55Z
yea
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deen 2021-03-03 14:34:39Z
I did that before, everything crashes hard
14:35
especially out of bounds reads
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Learath2 2021-03-03 14:35:30Z
Well they are things to be fixed, no?
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deen 2021-03-03 14:35:55Z
Sure, but not such high priority as out of bounds writes
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Learath2 2021-03-03 14:36:04Z
I mean not extremely important yeah
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What did you fuzz with? Afl?
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deen 2021-03-03 14:36:50Z
i think so
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GitHub BOT 2021-03-03 15:09:38Z
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houseme-kyle
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3669 Local ranking info viewable in-game
The feature is based on the issue below: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3655 The main concern was the impact it would have if we had to double our ranking/point commands to support it. I took the feedback into account and combined the info into one command. The PR is in draft as I don't want to implement it for the remaining commands before getting thoughts on the approach taken. Feature Display local stats alongside global while using the same commands *Implementation...
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 15:50:20Z
https://github.com/edg-l/teestatus/blob/master/src/server_v2.rs monkaS
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:17:01Z
We should look into some intelligent spam detection, maybe we could try a neural net? Sounds like a decent use for it
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Or even a dumb system that keeps a circular buffer of messages past a certain length and gives more spam points depending on the levenshtein distance to past messages
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:20:37Z
@Learath2 capital letters = more score, longer msg = more score, the same word repeated more than 3 times = more score
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etc
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we dont need fancy bruteforce maths
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:21:09Z
Yeah, let me create an issue for this. I’m sure we can figure out some heuristics
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I think for it to be effective it should probably also be across all servers
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:21:43Z
@Learath2 we can make the variables be conf vars
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so trolls dont know the equation
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exactly
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xd
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the scores*
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@Learath2 we can also add a score if u use unicode chars past x point or smth
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that nobody rly uses
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GitHub BOT 2021-03-03 16:24:07Z
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Learath2
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3670 Smarter anti-spam
We should look into some heuristics to detect spam better. We could look for repeated words, levenshtein distance, message length, excessive usage of non BMP characters, maybe a rudimentary language filter looking for offensive words. It would also be extremely beneficial if we could tie the detection to a shared backend between all servers so cross server spam is noticed too.
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:24:08Z
𝔯𝔲𝔰𝔱 𝔯𝔬𝔠𝔨𝔰!
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𝖘𝖔𝖒𝖊 𝖙𝖗𝖔𝖑𝖑 𝖒𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖆𝖌𝖊 𝖍𝖊𝖗𝖊
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monkalaugh
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ᦓꪮꪑꫀ ꪻ᥅ꪮꪶꪶ ꪑꫀᦓᦓꪖᧁꫀ ꫝꫀ᥅ꫀ
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s̶̀͘ȏ̴̽m̶̉̓e̴͐̕ ̷̔̕t̶̿̈́r̵̓̾õ̸͠l̴̓̽l̸̀̀ ̷̯̿m̸͂͑e̸̐̚s̶̛̀s̷͂͘a̵͊̏g̸͋͝e̴̽̋ ̷̿͒h̴̾̂e̵̾̈ȑ̶̚e̵͆̚
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monkaS
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:24:43Z
Yeah I already added that in the issue, characters outside of the BMP shouldn’t occur much
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:25:22Z
@Learath2 shared server communication
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sounds like that would need another issue?
16:25
sounds like a big project
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:25:58Z
I don’t mean cross server messaging. I mean a backend software that messages run through to get a spam score
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So the server submits messages to the backend to learn their scores
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:26:27Z
a rust service to detect spam? monkalaugh
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:26:36Z
Could be written in any language ;P
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GitHub BOT 2021-03-03 16:27:54Z
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Learath2
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3671 Message retraction
We should let the server remove messages from the clients message log. This could make chat spamming less of an issue if we remove messages by a person when they get banned
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:28:17Z
@Learath2 that should be opt out
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or opt in
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GitHub BOT 2021-03-03 16:29:10Z
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Learath2
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3671 Message retraction
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:29:23Z
monkaS
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:30:52Z
Decided a single issue is better
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Ryozuki
@Learath2 that should be opt out
Learath2 2021-03-03 16:31:45Z
Could be, I doubt many would bother opting out but I guess it’s better to let people see the garbage if they want
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:31:56Z
monkalaugh
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it could be abused by otherservers
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and it could be used for censorship
16:35
i love gmail blocking a zip attachment saying it has a virus
16:35
bitch im at linux
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:35:35Z
Inb4 linux rootkit in zip
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Or zipbomb ;D
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:36:02Z
btw if u want to circumvent gmail not letting u download it, you can make it display the original and then download it, open it in thunderbird and get the attachtment
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im such a hacker
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:36:26Z
Wait, they really don’t let you download it at all?
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:36:34Z
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ye
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:36:54Z
Isn’t there some advanced option somewhere to disable it?
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:37:00Z
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just because it is a zip
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:37:31Z
Btw I’ve been looking to host my own mail for a while now, I just don’t know how to keep my smtp not marked as spam by gmail ;/
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:37:37Z
oh
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i have my emailt setup
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i did various htings
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things
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i dont think gmail blocks me
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:38:14Z
They blocked my last server and they don’t even have support for it, so I’ve been kinda demotivated for a while about it
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:38:26Z
@Learath2 do u have dkim setup
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:38:34Z
Didn’t the last time around
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louis 2021-03-03 16:38:39Z
wait what are benefits of hosting ur own mail
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:38:51Z
Google not snooping thru your mail is a huge one 😛
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:38:53Z
its cool, ur not bound to a corporation and u own ur data
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my github mail is git@edgarluque.com
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monkalaugh
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louis 2021-03-03 16:39:45Z
might be too late for me feelsbadman
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:39:46Z
But honestly, everyone knows my gmail. It’s impossible for me to change to a new mail. I’ll have to forward the gmail one, which means google still gets to snoop my mail
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:40:00Z
can u tell me ur mail, i want to know if they block me
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it probs will go to spam tho
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:40:36Z
Google is soooo clever about this btw, they integrated gmail so well into their entire product space I’ll miss a lot of features when I switch
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:40:52Z
what features
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:41:03Z
Calendar integration is one I use alot
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:41:33Z
@Learath2 i sent it
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:41:34Z
Whenever I have a flight or a reservation it’s automatically added to my calendar when I get the mail about it
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:42:03Z
u can get my public pgp there too btw greenthing
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:42:16Z
Marked as spam 😛
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:42:20Z
expected
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:42:29Z
As with all non google senders nowadays...
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:42:34Z
yea
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if ppl used their own mail server
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this wouldnt happen
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:43:06Z
I couldn’t get mine unmarked either, they don’t provide support for it on purpose btw
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They want to force you to atleast use gmails smtp servers to send your mail
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Fucking dataminers...
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:43:37Z
btw if u ever want crontab to send u the emails encrypted
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i found this way
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monkaS
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:44:56Z
Do you have sfp dkim and dmarc?
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:45:09Z
dkim and dmarc yes
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i dont remember what sfp is
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:45:32Z
A record you can add to your zone
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:45:32Z
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ye
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:45:56Z
See even with all that you got marked as spam
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They make it as annoying as possible so you just say fuck it and use gmail
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:46:12Z
feelsbadman
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so how do twitter and others
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dont get marked
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do u need to be big?
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:46:51Z
And if you contact them about it they won’t tell you what’s wrong. They will tell you to look at their recommendations which are spf dkim dmarc
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:46:55Z
its probs cuz google knows nothing about this mail
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louis 2021-03-03 16:47:03Z
yeah lolo my google account is connected to so many other accs guess ill just have to accept it
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Ryozuki
do u need to be big?
Learath2 2021-03-03 16:47:27Z
Twitter literally has millions of users, they probably have backroom deals for senders of this size
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:47:52Z
well they probs use a mail provider
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louis 2021-03-03 16:47:52Z
its kinda messed up, wish there were some non-boomers in the government so technology laws could be passed
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:47:54Z
which has deals
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with google
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:48:04Z
It is also entirely possible that twitter uses googles mail servers to send mail to gmail users
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:48:24Z
@louis everyone should use a self hosted mail server + encrypt mails with gpg
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+ linux
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sadge the world isnt perfect
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Ryozuki
which has deals
Learath2 2021-03-03 16:48:45Z
They explicitly say they have no allowlists, but thats a huge fucking lie. If I had a company the size of twitter they would put me on an allowlist easily
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louis 2021-03-03 16:48:49Z
f4 not everyone should use linux
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ppl cant use self hosted mail, they're not tech-knowledgeable enough
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:49:03Z
yeah some ppl should use openbsd
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louis
its kinda messed up, wish there were some non-boomers in the government so technology laws could be passed
Learath2 2021-03-03 16:49:29Z
Slowly but surely europe is making progress in tech legislation. Hopefully in a decade or so more dinosaurs will die and we’ll get even more
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:49:33Z
u could sell rpi preconfigured to be a smtp server
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:49:59Z
The right to repair stuff is great and apparently they are planning to expand it to all consumer electronics soon
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They also made Tesla fold with their proprietary charging port for their cars
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Same with apple with lightning. GDPR is probably the most comprehensive legislation on privacy to date. So there is some hope
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louis 2021-03-03 16:52:21Z
would be cool if big things like email and such would be self-hosted from the start
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 16:52:29Z
they were
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in early days of internet
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louis 2021-03-03 16:52:43Z
ye but the smarter ppl took advantage of things while everyone else was figuring out
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Cristian 2021-03-03 16:52:52Z
nouis
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louis 2021-03-03 16:52:57Z
u
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Learath2 2021-03-03 16:54:30Z
If you actually take a look at the designs of these early internet protocols they were all designed with federation and decentralization in mind
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Zodiac 2021-03-03 18:00:41Z
Anyone else having discord connectivity issues? Wondering how widespread it is.
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2021-03-03 18:02:50Z
omg gun sounds with full bass sound like trash :D
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gerdoe 2021-03-03 18:03:23Z
why did you even try to bass-boost it (edited)
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Souly 2021-03-03 18:04:44Z
gun sounds sound like trash even without full bass
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2021-03-03 18:05:16Z
i just installed my "sound system" and it worked fine whit the music test but then i booted teewoods client and it sounded so weird ;D
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either max bass is bad idea anyways or im not used to it or the tw sounds have bad bass support idk how sound works in general
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so i have to choose between flat music and fuzzy teewoods sounds
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louis 2021-03-03 18:06:30Z
ja all teeworlds soudns bad except a few nice effects and the main menu theme
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gerdoe 2021-03-03 18:07:00Z
twlom > standard menu music
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louis 2021-03-03 18:07:15Z
feelsamazingman
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2021-03-03 18:07:16Z
yea menu music is very nice with bass
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louis 2021-03-03 18:07:28Z
actually most of the common sounds are good quality imo so at least thats good
18:07
but i dont like how the gun sound is so loud
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2021-03-03 18:07:54Z
maybe i should try to get used to a bassy tw sound
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but then it would sound weird on laptop
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idk
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anyone having a big ass bass here? no flex mine is older than time it self that might be the issue too ;:D
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NeXus 2021-03-03 20:02:29Z
HuhChamp
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louis 2021-03-03 20:02:52Z
read #general plz xd
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NeXus 2021-03-03 20:03:07Z
tl;dr justatest
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louis 2021-03-03 20:03:28Z
server broke map dont work
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Learath2 2021-03-03 20:26:07Z
something is very broken about tune_zones :/
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Cøke 2021-03-03 20:26:35Z
@Learath2 we fix it for now with normal tiles
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if u want to see the bug, join doomworld 2 at test server
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Learath2 2021-03-03 20:29:09Z
@murpi you can deploy the fix with normal tiles on all the servers and I'll try to generate saves for the people on the locked server
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@Learath2 we fix it for now with normal tiles
murpi 2021-03-03 20:30:09Z
If you have the map, send it to me
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Zodiac 2021-03-03 21:06:58Z
Apologies if I am missing something obvious here, but is there a reason the README download is missing the record_points table? Is it because record_points is acting as a cache generated off the other tables? (edited)
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Learath2
something is very broken about tune_zones :/
Learath2 2021-03-03 21:26:44Z
I think it's UB whatever it is, interrupting the code with gdb at a couple points to check values fixed it
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@Cøke does it always happen on doomworld 2?
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deen 2021-03-03 21:53:50Z
@Zodiac correct, record_points is just calculated from record_maps + record_race
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Alexander 2021-03-03 21:57:31Z
Hey is there an easy way to update ddnet without using the built in update button because it wont let me update
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deen 2021-03-03 21:58:47Z
sure, just download it again from website
21:58
settings are stored elsewhere
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Alexander 2021-03-03 21:58:56Z
oh okay
21:58
thanks
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<3
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deen 2021-03-03 21:59:02Z
or use Steam, it has a more reliable updater
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Zodiac 2021-03-03 21:59:16Z
Thanks @deen - makes sense. Would it be an significant issue if I were to create another temporary table. The alternative would be to modify the existing but that feels like it would have a number of knock-on effects.
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Alexander 2021-03-03 21:59:29Z
yeah i dont like having to open steam every time i want to play a game
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Zodiac 2021-03-03 22:00:15Z
I'm trying to pull through the server association that you have in the points and use in map ranks to do the same with points.
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deen 2021-03-03 22:00:16Z
@Zodiac what for?
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ah, record_points but per server?
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Zodiac 2021-03-03 22:01:00Z
yeah, was thinking record_serverpoints
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I have the script based off your existing one. Adds another grouping by server so you get the per region points
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deen 2021-03-03 22:02:12Z
I don't think you can sum points from reach region together to get global points
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Zodiac 2021-03-03 22:02:39Z
Yeah thats why if it was to go ahead it would probably be easier as another table
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Keep record_points to cache points stats and record_serverpoints for per region stats
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deen 2021-03-03 22:03:48Z
Yeah, that's probably the least chance of breaking anything.
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the term server is way too overloaded, but I started that, so it's ok 😄
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record_regionpoints might be clearer
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Zodiac 2021-03-03 22:04:27Z
haha yeah region is probably better
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I can write the script and everything, but I understand it is an infrastructure change. I don't want to go down this path if it would be an issue (cost wise etc)
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deen 2021-03-03 22:06:00Z
nah, no need for you to write a script or anything
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we create the record_points from https://ddnet.tw/ranks/ creation already, and I can probably add the same for record_regionpoints
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you'll just have to update them when a new rank is done
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Zodiac 2021-03-03 22:08:03Z
Thanks! The reason I want it is for a rather small feature. But I got it implemented for the other commands so hoping to extend it to points as well.
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https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/3669
Local ranking info viewable in-game by houseme-kyle · Pull Request ...
The feature is based on the issue below: #3655 The main concern was the impact it would have if we had to double our ranking/point commands to support it. I took the feedback into account and combi...
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deen 2021-03-03 22:08:04Z
but maybe wait for more opinions about using the regional ranks? don't want you to waste effort if others don't like it
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Zodiac 2021-03-03 22:09:04Z
Yeah, based on this I might go ahead for now without extending it to points. See how it is received on the easier implementation first. (edited)
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std 2021-03-03 22:16:31Z
anyone know any good substitute to mysql
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that is similar to it
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the query system
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doesnt matter
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Ryozuki 2021-03-03 22:57:29Z
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