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Between 2021-02-16 00:00:00Z and 2021-02-17 00:00:00Z

Who remembers this map? A. [oldschool]

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https://www.reddit.com/r/PixelArt/comments/ff2xo9/mario_diorama/ Yo, is this kinda animation doable in teeworlds editor? (edited)

r/PixelArt - Mario Diorama

11,857 votes and 113 comments so far on Reddit

veryveryvery much work

so like if it is like 30 frames how long would it take?

how long to make?

to put it into a map

if u just swap thru 30 pics its mediocre work, but u would potentially have a big map size from this. Not sure how well low res pixelarts work

that was just an example i was gonna try something else

14:28

from what i remember there is a graph with a time axis and u can change the Rotation,Scale,Color. so if i just set color to seethru until the next loop it should work right?

yup and then make 30 animations for each fram

14:28

should work in theory

1 animation for each right?

yes

14:29

or actually u can make an offset

u mean like out of view?

well make an animation where the pic is shown for 1/30 of time and then either do 30 animations where the start is 1/30 more right each time or you try to add an offset

Make 1 animation

14:31

And not 30

wait with offset u mean position or time?

Time

thats called a delay right

idk what i mean with offset, dont even know if its in ddnet client

It is in ddnet client haha

yea but i just looked and im on old ass version

ill try 4 frames for starters see if it works then i could add more

Its really not hard to do

But this is my first time dealing with the teeworlds animation shit, i gave up on it before

If i would be on my pc i would show you how

if i run into trouble i will hit u up, wish me luck

Maybe i did it in the map banta

14:35

But im not 100% sure i did 1 animation or 5

what difficulty?

Diffixulty of animation ?

the map

/map banta

ah yeah

Its novice

oh nostalgic map man ❤️

14:37

so u are talking about the wall anim?

Yh

14:37

Open the map in editor

14:37

And look at it

for 30 fps it look like this

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Thats bad

not 30 fps tho

its 30 fps

just 30 frames im not sure about the lenght

its 1 s long

and even the number of frames that was just an animaton

first spot goes til 0.033

Its still bad

14:40

It will bug

14:40

You cant put an animation at the beginning

14:40

Or it will flash weirdly haha

14:41

Dont ask me why its just like that

@Ama how is it so smooth

Maths haha

14:42

It just doing the right timings

so from what i see u have 8 different frames

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14:43

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Probably

14:44

Show me what the tilelayes says

14:44

Or na

14:44

Just look yourself haha

i get it now

And learn

so smart to put in into tileset

14:44

but with quads i can do it too

14:44

right?

Yh you can

14:45

I wanted to do fireworks for new years but i didnt have the time plus there was already a event planned

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14:46

can i zoom this out?

14:47

this is a color envelope?

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14:51

Do u understand it right that envelope is like a layer on the timeline?

I dont know what you mean

14:57

Its a color envelope yes

idk ill see if i get stuck

idk what u mean with flashing, but it looks alright to me apart that its walking backwards

maybe i did something wrong when i tried

15:42

but you see some stuttering

well this is what i did but nothing is blinking soooo

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15:44

its 5 frames each 70 ms, i gave a delay 10 ms on start since u said it was buggy, the whole loop is 350 ms

ScReeNy

idk what u mean with flashing, but it looks alright to me apart that its walking backwards

it goes but back ;d

Yes I forgot to use brain and then it was too late and it went backwards..

16:44

@bubliman did u apply the animation to each quad?

So, @ScReeNy & @Ama thx for ur help, got this result simple test with just 5 frames, i hope i got everything right

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ScReeNy

@bubliman did u apply the animation to each quad?

This one is a tileset and i made an envelope for each tile layer

Does it disappear short in between tho?

yeah i fucked the timings a bit

Well good enough for a test, the principle is working

i mean with this u can do almost any animation

ye

16:48

tho a downside can be the map size, for example my pony is 700kb already, could definitly save a lot tho

u can save about 700kb

yes those 700kb are wasted with horrible images like that. save it

and if i had like 100 envelopes, could that be an issue? (edited)

bubliman

So, @ScReeNy & @Ama thx for ur help, got this result simple test with just 5 frames, i hope i got everything right

what is that for?

its for making moving design

17:51

you could have grass move

hm cant u do that easier with only envelopes?

@QuiX ima make some animation in blender, and put it inside of teeworlds

i mean like is that a mappre with many objects in it and u make it move?

17:52

ahhh

you could make a gif apear in ddnet

bubliman

@QuiX ima make some animation in blender, and put it inside of teeworlds

nice curious :3

@Ama rly u can import gifs?

i mean you could make it yourself

17:53

but that could be lots of kb

i would need to modify the editor tho right?

no

quads can be gifs?

you could just take the frames of the gifs

17:54

and make them into single png

17:54

and then just make the same as you did above

yeah thats what i was gonna do export each frame into png, then put them into ddnet

Yes but make it worth it

u mean per kB?

If you want it to be released on ddnet

17:56

you cant make a 500kb gif that doesnt add anything to the map

why would it take that much

i mean each frame is a bit

17:57

i mean 30 frames each 10kb

17:57

i 300kb

17:57

for just a stupid gif

if i used tilesets instead of quads would it make a major difference?

Ama

you cant make a 500kb gif that doesnt add anything to the map

the maps already in the pool beg to differ lmao

17:59

so many maps with pure garbage visibility, 1000 TB mapsize and no added quality whatsoever

?

17:59

most maps are under 1mb in size

yeah most, but there are some maps that have alot of sound or texture files that dont add shit and are big

yeah some sounds are useless

18:00

some images aswell but they add something diffrent

18:00

and i didnt see any map that is too big with just shit

18:00

give me an example

only one i can think off of the top of my head is lavender forest, though that one the music and stuff actually adds and its a nicely made map

thats like the worst example XD

18:03

as everything added looks and feels good

i cant remembe riwch one it is but theres a giant map with some dumbass lamp that kills all vision so literally everyone i know plays with low detail or tiles anyway

18:03

that one is useless af

the map is really amazing

it is, but theres a bunch of maps that try that but fail

my map cavings

lavender forest is one of the best maps tbh

18:03

like quality wise

18:04

oh my god yes that

cavings is broken because of a server update because you had 30 mins untill your lamp runs out of fuel

18:04

entities was disabled on the map

yeah okay thats really really really pointless

18:05

a 30 minute long quad cycle, or even longer, that does nothing for 30 minutes?

18:05

but yeah, overall pretty pointless visuals

18:05

sorry but the lamp effect is a good idea but its pointless af

30min untill it goes full black for 2 hours

18:06

its not pointless as its a diffrent way to play

18:06

if you dont want to play like this nobody forces you to play the map

it kinda is, the map isnt pretty enough otherwise for that visual style so its just annoying then, if you made it on a map like lavender forest, thats a different story

its just a concept of finishing the map before your lamp runs out

at wich point you just yknow, turn off entities and

18:07

gone

18:07

on*

entities was blocked

18:07

so you were forced to finish the map in 30 mins or fail

ok in that case

18:07

just lower the graphics

18:07

cause its set as a lq graphic

it was not

goes away with page down

it was not possible to cheat it you were forced

18:08

the map was changed by someone

18:08

to have HD and entities were cleaned

well its still a pretty dumb concept, imagine someone biting their teeth out on the map barely making it and then they just have to wait 2 hours cause u turned off the light

18:09

that just sucks man

18:09

sorry to be so rude but

kill and try again like any other map you fail at

18:09

its just like freeze

ok then why not make a timer thats 30 minutes on the map?

18:10

with a thing at the end

Jeez its a nice map, atleast something original. U dont always have to follow the "traditional" gores mapping methods

yeye i get it, but eh

its just a story

yknow, someone should make an xpanic style ddnet map, i mean like, visual style, with a city and actual yknow

18:10

visuals

18:10

and not just

Stop being a hater maybe? @Anubis

nah, thx

he is saying something he thinks

man i wish i still had my old xpanic map from 100 years ago that i made

18:11

that one was gud

and im telling him how i feel about it and how i mapped it nothing hating here

18:11

he didnt say the map is shit just how he didnt like the concept

18:12

im always open to discuss something like that not everyone likes maps like that

Ama

he didnt say the map is shit just how he didnt like the concept

the map is shit

plus the map is fully broken now

just to spite bubliman

18:12

xD

maybe he didnt see the map on the right version of the server

im not saying its the best map ive played, just that it most definitly isnt shit

i will fix the map now and not make it go dark as its broken

i didnt, but mbe it should yknow say what happens somewhere

18:13

or have a timer

18:13

idk

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19:59

i try some features and i dont understand the laser which can "hook" you. i want that the laser react when i stand on the activate platform, but i dont find a activate block

and i dont understand how long can the laser hook the nearest tee. how i can decide it

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20:00

use switch button top of editor and the switch buttons (red off green on) buttons to change on / off for whichever switch number

20:01

md u can add laser pullers (bottom right of tile selection) with the same switch number

20:01

there are 2 thpes of switches, timed (with the clock) and permanent (no clock, just solid circle)

20:02

timed = u will need to change the delay value for how many seconds it will activate/deactivate before returning to previous state

20:02

permanent = it just stays on or off depending if u touch the green or red one

20:09

blue one top row

20:09

in game layer (edited)

what

ok i found it

20:14

justatest

i have bad feeling

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