DDraceNetwork - general

ger3 is ddosnet remastered

ddos for sure

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ffs

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ddos

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ddos

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ddos

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@deen ????????

yes its ddosed

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rip

i just checked. doesn't living-bots have like the best DDoS protection for game servers?

nah like fuck ddoser

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definitely a ddos, i can't even do a novice map...

@Scrumplex GER3 is hosted at them, it's enabled, but doesn't help much here

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I can try another hoster, but kind of running out of candidates

deen

I can try another hoster, but kind of running out of candidates

Do you have any info about how the attacks are done? Are they attacking the ddnet server itself or some random port

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I got some contacts at the provider combahton and the sysadmin there likes to create special firewalls for special cases

both kinds of attacks happen. the hardest to block are on our game ports, with traffic that looks like regular players, spoofed from real player ip addresses

huh so of course its a bit more complicated

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i think i will try to see if there is anything that could be done here tomorrow. Hopefully the Programming and Linux sysad-experience pays out here

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how do they get real player ip addresses

by spoofing them

nah thats a valid question, the server doesnt expose the player ips

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maybe they are yanking believable ips from somewhere?

from their own servers

when you refresh in the internet tab, you request the server info from each server that is registered

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that allows any person hosting a server to get most of the player IPs

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@Patiga @louis ^

oh

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shouldnt there be some middle server that registered servers send info to so its not player -> server? not sure if that is possible

yes, that's theoretically possible

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idea isn't new, but it was never really implemented: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1395

HTTP master server list proof-of-concept by heinrich5991 · Pull Req...

This would help reduce the impact of DDoS attacks against the master servers because there are caching services available for HTTP (such as Cloudflare). [12:58:58] <@minus> okay, who&...

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https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1703

HTTPS master · Issue #1703 · teeworlds/teeworlds

@heinrich5991 : HTTPS (definitely with S) for the master server list, preferably with all the server infos already (would also make the refresh faster) #1395

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https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/1074

Provide server info from https://ddnet.tw in json format · Issue #1...

provide all ddnet servers with players over https with a few possible filters (ddnet, global) should update at least once a minute, maybe every 10 seconds? ping could still be requested per ip in c...

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https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1834

[RFC] Implement HTTP Master Servers by Learath2 · Pull Request #183...

This still needs a lot of work, but it's operational. The ipv6 support is very much tacked on and the code is still very unoptimized. There are a couple crashes I still haven't trac...

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(idea was first recorded 2015, >5 years ago

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I hope you keep all these ideas private and dont share anti DDoS ideas on the discord or github forum things. These kids will look for ways. But in my short experience of hosting minecraft, all server hosters come with like 15GBps DDoS protection. Are you guys honestly getting attacked by more than this on such a light weight game?

Hola

@ᶰ°Konͧsti in 2021

Ger3 runs really bad at all. Me and other players have freezelags every minute without ddos

Ddos at 1 am

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Ddoser is probs american

Happy valentine's day

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alone

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Same

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@Ryozuki wanna be my valentine? DogeHeart

We can watch spain sux memes all day

old maps are cancer

@Lady Saavik wanna be my valentine?

wtf

@Blade yeah, hosters told us they blackholed us once it reached 20 Gbit/s

@n000b wanna be my valentine?

@cyberfighter only for today alright?

yes

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your valentee gift

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Hope you like it

troll gift

rerate race

@deen

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why are jump tiles so bugged

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the wall jump tiles are really inconsistent in giving u a jump

They are actually very consistent, you just need to hit them a certain way

how am i supposed to know that

By playing a lot, they are a janky tile but you get the hang of it

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You need to not be falling when you hit them

and i thought it had a cooldown

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like u can only touch it after 1 second after u used jump

No it's not time based

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You get jump when you touch the wall while falling.

Weird, if you touch the wall and move away too quickly you don't get DJ

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oh interesting, so there is a speed requirement?

No

what does 'while falling' mean

Once your tee starts going down

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At that moment u get jump

Ur right, if i'm already moving down i get it the instant i touch a wall

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guess it always seemed like time cuz u usually touch it before moving down

Yeah Its usually the same trick on every map. Can't think of anything new to map with it

Hewlo!

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guys anyone can help

Elitissimo used wall jumps in a cool way

can i make own skins visible for everyone?

agreed

@Vulpe you need to ask ravie Louis or jao to add them to the official database

woah

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so how i can contact them?

Right here on discord.

okay thx u

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^w^

deleted my comment cuz i was wrong as hell

cyberfighter

@n000b wanna be my valentine?

traitor

@deen should consider turning off kickvotes/specvotes on novice servers. I see lots of funvotes passing on servers with 63 people online for no reason

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if someone is blocking u need moderator anyway usually

f3

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never kicks blockers

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always kick innocent players

I have often seen kick votes work properly on Novice servers. And we don't have enough moderators, and most players are not on Discord so they can't call mods