DDraceNetwork - mapping

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why

11:56

this door

11:56

dont close ?

this needs to be placed again 9 tiles farther down

12:14

but u should probably use a smaller door

@Knuski

14:03

TwT

14:13

ok

14:13

almost what i wanted

14:14

this is bull$hit

do u want to let the laser to go through the hookthrough too?

Astramast

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my bad i was on super

Knuski

do u want to let the laser to go through the hookthrough too?

yes

14:17

well

14:17

it is useless

14:17

but

14:18

its more beautiful

arrange it like this

14:21

and use the "6" lasers instead of "9" (edited)

14:21

make sure the doors are 6 tiles apart

thxs

np

:D

15:31

finished 0.2

15:35

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Bunker_V_0_2.map

1.3 MB

15:35

good luck

Put switches at every edge

15:36

So no one can skip

15:36

xD

15:36

novice/moderate map btw

I hope that is not killtiles?

yes it is

15:38

15:39

but u supposed pass like this

15:39

so its ok

I don't feel like this is a good decision to make it that faily

its just the filter

Oh

it is made so if they are 20 tees incoming only 8 pass first, then the others

15:40

just nouis cant pass sadly

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15:40

Design is unfinished, right?

wdym by "design" ? (edited)

its a part made for botters troll

Astramast

wdym by "design" ? (edited)

The decorative tiles

Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance

Design is unfinished, right?

15:42

just the noobfilter

15:42

this is good huh :D ?

I'd add more details

details are for end

15:43

i have no doodads for now

And maybe some useless unhook lines in the ground

?

Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance

I'd add more details

i also have to put lights on lanterns

wtf

Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance

And maybe some useless unhook lines in the ground

what is useless unhook line in the ground ?

Sec, I'll show

u put 50 different designs

yes

15:45

bcs u enter the cave

15:45

then the bunker

15:45

i should not ? monkaS

15:46

@cyberfighter

Like this

thats a ground

15:47

wheres the problem ?

No problem, but I think it looks better with such things

ok ^^

cyberfighter

u put 50 different designs

so whats bbad with the fact of putting different designs ?

15:50

i am just making a nice-looking map

15:50

if u consider that what i made is nice-looking

15:50

15:51

ok maybe not that beautiful 0w0"

15:52

but at least it changes during map

Astramast

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Try not to use similar colours for background and tiles.

yes its a bit strange

15:59

@think twice. why I should not do 50 different designs ?

think twice.

Try not to use similar colours for background and tiles.

16:00

like this ?

colors sux

Deleted User

colors sux

16:14

but

16:14

its an old bunker

16:14

so the iron have corroded

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or something

16:14

so its green

16:15

but we are going deeper in the bunker so its less green

Is that a red-green blindness test as a map?

Astramast

so the iron have corroded

i don't think it works like that

16:16

try to pick colors which are more pleasant for eyes

16:16

xd

friends : maybe not the best colors

16:16

#mapping :

16:16

i think probably orange in-between tints would be better, still could represent corrosion and not that terrible for eyes

;-;

16:19

i specially choose a non-agressive color

16:20

anyway this is just esthetic kek

16:21

how do i make orange monkaS

16:23

Deleted User

i think probably orange in-between tints would be better, still could represent corrosion and not that terrible for eyes

16:25

so u think this is less agressive ?

eh

16:25

you got me wrong xd

16:25

ill try to come with an example

I think you should try something better as a background than the basic 3x3 generic unhook bg

JMarcell

I think you should try something better as a background than the basic 3x3 generic unhook bg

ok u got me all

16:27

i don't know how to have a bunker background

maybe use a random pattern of unhooks

16:28

or idk

16:29

also that drag looks kinda outdated, players don't like these edge spam drags that ddmax had

JMarcell

also that drag looks kinda outdated, players don't like these edge spam drags that ddmax had

hold up

16:30

i just started the editor last week

16:31

for the first time

you will become a great mapper I hope

me too :D

16:31

but i think i am making too much in my map

everyone's first maps usually don't fit ddnet's standards tbh

(when u look Stronghold or Kobra)

JMarcell

everyone's first maps usually don't fit ddnet's standards tbh

i will submit my map at V1.0

stronghold and kobra are 6 years old

yes but still played for 4 days in top servers frequently

16:32

and ugly as fk

that doesnt really mean they are well made

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16:33

look at maps like Firewatch or Olyimp

JMarcell

that doesnt really mean they are well made

if u make a map it is for people to play it => if people play ur map after 7 years mean they like it no ?

all the noobs like stronghold troll

JMarcell

look at maps like Firewatch or Olyimp

aim your maps' design to something like that

:O

16:36

firewatch backgound is so cool

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exactly

but theres no details in the layer behind the tee

you don't always need midground in your map

16:37

it depends if it fits with the aesthetic

16:38

i like this

16:38

:)

yeah that's midground

where can i see list of maps by release date ?

go in #announcements if a map is released, it's announced there

myself i sux at design, but i tried to make something in a hurry to give you an example for orange tint colors based on your current design @Astramast (edited)

0w0

wait

Deleted User

myself i sux at design, but i tried to make something in a hurry to give you an example for orange tint colors based on your current design @Astramast (edited)

i mean

17:45

the tiles where u walk

17:45

have to be green

17:45

like they are right now

17:46

this color

17:46

will not change

17:46

but the background well... (edited)

17:46

i just gave it as an example, and changed colors up to my own preferences xD

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17:48

but i kinda think green will be ugli xd

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i find it elegant

17:50

but i really need to find a background

17:50

because this is not ok

Deleted User

myself i sux at design, but i tried to make something in a hurry to give you an example for orange tint colors based on your current design @Astramast (edited)

how did u do the background ?

can you make this more transparent? @Astramast

17:55

theres the background behind

17:55

17:57

this is at 200 stransparency (0->255) (edited)

Astramast

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take this bg blocks and leave it as a second group, then right click on the tile of the blocks, and decrease the A = 30 or 50

wait

17:58

we are under ground :)

17:58

Astramast

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so put a cave bottom, not this

17:59

is ugly

yes this is ugly

17:59

we are in a bunker

17:59

(name of map btw)

17:59

i am searching for a stone bg actually (edited)

@Astramast if you are making a map to be released, you will have to change the bg

Astramast

i am searching for a stone bg actually (edited)

stone hmm

yes

no need find

18:01

@Astramast grass main 0.7 - auto map = cave

18:01

and a color

but

18:01

ah

18:01

oooooooh

@Astramast

18:02

use this

18:03

dont have color

yes

18:05

i was having that problem

@Astramast but this dont have a auto map

18:06

why I modified the tile

i need a hero

18:08

WSike ?

18:12

WSike actually : (edited)

18:12

Astramast

how did u do the background ?

Made new group, used generic_clear, lamps, chains, default grass and balk. Made a new layer, First i filled with default grass bg, changed a bit color so it feels like it's on your back > now i did make new layer with generic tiles. Picked the biggest generic block and made it going smooth by rotating it (by smooth i meant the shadow lines between them). Now lower oppacity untill you're happy with it. Also I did remove some block from bg and made some kind of window by help of these half-generic tiles which your one must have. Adjusted colors to fit map palette. > new layer for lamps, place lamps where it wouldn't be that ugli. >add a new quad layer which should contain light mapre and place them on every lamp but don't forget to resize. > created a new layer for chains and place em at some places + adjusted oppacitg

18:15

For balk i guess you know

18:16

If you need some things better explained lmk and i'll get on pc xD

i will make an example

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@Astramast

ok

18:19

so

18:20

how can i automap with a modification of grass that dont have automap

If it's placed in same way, you can make a copy of rules with identical tiles placement and rename it to your mapres name

18:23

Otherwise you have to make rules on your own

18:24

:/

18:24

dont look like stone

Play with colors justatest

18:25

18:26

u think this could be stone ?

so

18:29

i deleted layer

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and i used dirt instead

18:29

this is automapped "cave"

18:29

and this is automapped dirt

18:30

Try to make how you see it, then i'll try to help you

18:33

this was like i see it

18:33

Try to Make it like i did, it looks like your first one (edited)

18:34

You showed

it's looks like bg* xD

18:42

all

18:42

also part looks like oldschool

Deleted User

it's looks like bg* xD

Idk troll u or not, bit he showed same bg before so that's why i sayd that it looks like his first one

@Astramast download this

bgs.map

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have 3 bgs

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just to give you an example

nice ddmax examples trollet

@Deleted User i mean color blend unhook and bg makes all look like bg

19:29

this

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is some good idea

Palhaço Maluco

@Astramast download this

nice (edited)

19:32

@Deleted User

19:32

u approve this type of bg ?

idc lol

Deleted User

nice ddmax examples trollet

if you think it's good - make it

i think i will make my map first and then care about colors

look this bg its cool

19:37

i used he's in one map

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Mainigh.map

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look

Astramast

u approve this type of bg ?

I don't approve this type of bg pepeH

DarkOort

I don't approve this type of bg pepeH

I did it quickly, when I do it on a map of mine, it looks cool

19:41

i don't really like this kind of bgs

i find them terrible for my eyes justatest

but i don't really care anyway as i play with entities in most maps

(edited)

but i love this bg

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It's not a problem to looks cool or not. If you make a background with the same level of detail as the front, it's just going to be confusing for the player who won't know what's part of the background and what's part of the gameplay. When you make a background, you have to reduce the details and avoid outlines of the tiles in order to make it understandable

DarkOort

It's not a problem to looks cool or not. If you make a background with the same level of detail as the front, it's just going to be confusing for the player who won't know what's part of the background and what's part of the gameplay. When you make a background, you have to reduce the details and avoid outlines of the tiles in order to make it understandable

:)

20:33

yes

20:33

so i will have to find a stone bg

20:33

but after

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when i finished map

20:33

i also decided to keep the same tiles all along the map

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20:34

btw should I put teleport or not (novice/moderate map)

20:34

dont mind the color behind (edited)

20:35

its just so we can see the map

20:35

bcs this is horrible for screenshots

definetely not a novice

its very easy

20:47

8blocs depth

so

21:14

here i am back

21:14

21:15

lmao why this speed ?

21:15

;-;

21:15

so @Deleted User as u can see monkalaugh

it is not very hard

21:16

could be novice

21:16

no ?

No

21:24

Boring+long+unstable depth till 8= newbies graveyard justatest

21:26

This part just sux

i love those type of parts

21:28

but i will make stable one depth

You could make it more interesting than doing same thing over and over again for like 30-60 sec

21:29

xD

i could do an entire map of 30 mins like this heartw

Then most likely you will be the only one playng it tear

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my real question is how i make so people dont skip it ?

21:31

kill tiles

21:31

x)

Lmao

Kill tiles can be skipped

nouis tiles

Make solid blocks instead

bcs u can just hammerfly over it

21:32

even with solid blocks

Just remove that part

21:33

no

turn off hammer if you want it that badly xd

It sux

21:33

Hookfly btw

21:33

Knuski

turn off hammer if you want it that badly xd

i tough about that but u can hookfly it doesnt change anything

novice players wont hookfly over it xd

they wont hammerfly over it too x)

21:34

its just that in mapper rules its said that u must avoid part to be skippable

Just remove and put an actual part over it fury

Deleted User

Just remove and put an actual part over it fury

uncool

lmao

wat

21:35

cheat = doing a part easier than intended

21:35

hookfly is harder than doing it normally

21:35

well i guess if u can do it faster its a speedrun cheat but u dont have to worry about that in novice maps

cheat = doing different from intended

no

21:36

doing different from intended = creative way

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creative finish

Start skipping after map release and troll testers = creative finish

5

21:37

fallen fortress is just creative map

kids who need attention

Who want to skip map fallen fortress , write to me need some players to do it . Thank you

is there a command that makes switches not open for others when in solo?

no asked the same 2 weeks ago XD

:/