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This channel is for all Teeworlds/DDNet and related chat. Gameplay questions can be asked here as well rather than in #questions. Ingame screenshots and any other Teeworlds related media goes to #showroom.

Between 2021-02-08 00:00:00Z and 2021-02-09 00:00:00Z

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Is there a way to get skins that were removed from the database?

no

00:34

but ask louis

00:34

or ping mods

00:34

idk

00:34

im just a tw noob

ask ravie

LostAccount

Is there a way to get skins that were removed from the database?

@Ravie please? feelsbadman

feelsbadman

well @LostAccount mention what skin it is

rip tank skin

Only ping mods for ingame issues listed in #welcome

tank skin is gone?

Oh no, not only cuidu's but also fnokurka's skins were removed

I liked them

@std yes sadly

no, tank is still there, sort by date

rip

01:11

oh

01:11

k

It was tuzi. And sorry I didn't know what else to do. I looked for it on the forums but didn't find any results feelsbadman

feelsbadman

it's one of the well designed skins by cuidu that were removed

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heartw

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01:24

pusheen

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01:24

hetong

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Wtf pusheen literal best skin

was that even drawn or just copy pasted from the internet

02:31

either way those skins look pretty crappy

ur

and unteeish

first and third are ok

notice how outline is made wrong

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02:33

and those transparent pixels

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02:34

not to mention eyes which are also lq

yeah thats the second one

02:34

and teeworlds skins dont have to be high quality

02:34

they are very small when playing

bad

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02:36

and same as with previous one the outline doesn't align with the skin that well

02:37

justatest

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02:38

in this skin the feet and hands are also curved which looks bad

02:38

and outline for hands/feet is made wrong too

02:38

its the same size as hands/feet

Souly

justatest

this is what happens when u just resize the body and change the color as opposed to making sure the stroke on the outside is equal at all points

louis

this is what happens when u just resize the body and change the color as opposed to making sure the stroke on the outside is equal at all points

ye

02:42

i can see why it got removed

Souly

notice how outline is made wrong

I met many players who wore cuidu's skins and even here there are players who don't understand the reasoning behind their removal. Quality of execution alone seems to be a bad criterion, or do you toss away your holiday pictures because they weren't taken with 10'000€ photography equipment?

those skins were removed not only because of low quality but because of their unteeish style too

Artifacts, interpolation, blah blah. Those are artificial criteria and people don't wear skins because the maker chose a high quality interpolation algorithm.

also

or do you toss away your holiday pictures because they weren't taken with 10'000€ photography equipment?

i dont think that its a good comparison

just add every skin too the database

03:01

its a database and not a personal collection

best idea

you could atleast start a vote in #announcements, since a lot of people keep complaining about it

i dont think that adding every skin would be a good idea

03:03

i think that we should keep some level

if you dont want to see special skins, than dont add download skins @Souly

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if you dont want to see special skins, than dont add download skins @Souly

i want to see skins of other players

and i want to see as much skins as possible

i just dont want the shitty ones which are poorly made and copy pasted from google images lmao

like the majority of the people :p

03:06

we have this discussion every 2 days xd

03:07

+ you could still download skins manually from the database if you want to see only the "good" once

i dont mind people using skins that i see as "bad", i just think that database should keep some level and not randomly add low effort skins

03:10

adding a secondary database for community skins would be a good idea

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3569

add "community skins" download option · Issue #3569 · ddnet/ddnet

people complain about not having old funny skins like "tank" due to it not fitting teeworld's artstyle adding these types of skins back into the database isn't the...

03:12

is the best solution

03:13

because it maintains quality of the default game's assets while still allowing ppl to allow whatever skins they want if they just tick 1 box

isnt that what vanilla skins only option is for

03:14

i just realized thats an option

that filters the tee section to show only vanilla skins afaik

no, vanilla skins only option is for vanilla skins only, suprisingly

03:16

there are skins like greyfox which are still tee-ish and fit in well that aren't in vanilla so it should be kept (edited)

nooooouis_alt1

nooooouis_4

nooooouis_4

nooooouis_3

nooooouis_4

nooooouis_4

nooooouis_alt2

03:16

keeped

yeah but vanilla skins are teeish skins

since download skins is an option enabled by default, it's almost equivalent having all database skins shipped into the client so it makes sense to have some sort of quality control with it to ensure the art style is uniform

greyfox is not really teeish because of the ears

yes it is

03:17

that's like saying twinbop isn't teeish because of the bops

what

coala isnt teeish because nouis

noouis

louis

since download skins is an option enabled by default, it's almost equivalent having all database skins shipped into the client so it makes sense to have some sort of quality control with it to ensure the art style is uniform

twinbop is a vanilla skin though

03:18

im not really sure what teeish skins would mean other than vanilla-like

03:19

or circular

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teeish == identifiable as a tee? or what

greyfox is like 2 more pixels out, so it's not like ears make it non-teeish

yeah and atee is a circle

noby

teeish == identifiable as a tee? or what

in vanilla style

03:20

its as simple as that

teeish has a certain shading style along w outline style

yeah or maybe vanilla-like

and obv needs to be somewhat a circle-shaped hitbox

circular with outline?

hitbox without ears and decor (edited)

louis

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yeah triangle ears not vanilla-like

well u need flat shading too

main outline around 1.5px and shadow outline around 3px or something

triangle ears are in bluekitty

yeah but they are small not big

this is the only teeish skin

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stop arguing w what's teeish lol

what

03:21

i dont know what teeish means

03:21

which is what im trying to figure out

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u say only teeish skins should be put in but no one knows what it means

03:22

yes thats what i think

03:22

but thats not what you think

?xd what do u mean no one knows what it means

03:22

i'm not here to feed u the exact requirements

03:22

its obvious if u literally look at tees

yes tees are circular

yes

its not obvious, its kindof subjective

they also have a larger outside outline

03:22

flat shadow

yeah

everyone probably has a slightly different idea of what is teeish

so why is teeish a requirement if its subjective

it's not subjective

ofc it is

no it's not

it is

its not

then u can define it objectively?

noby

this is the only teeish skin

you mean this one?

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07sucks

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07sucks

ravie is skin db leader, ask him. he works with official tw devs for 0.8 graphics, it's not subjective

0.7 isnt teeish

noby

0.7 isnt teeish

what.

louis

ravie is skin db leader, ask him. he works with official tw devs for 0.8 graphics, it's not subjective

that doesnt make it not subjective tho lol

if it was objective there wouldnt need to be a leader

what

03:24

teeish art has certain requirements

03:24

wym

like what

that's the opposite of subjective

03:24

i literally listed some before

03:24

wtf

03:24

do i have to draw it out for u

i think best definition for teeish is circular + outline

just using common sense you can assume what "tee style" is

neither of u are experienced with gfx

this isnt gfx thing wtf

lol yes it is

Souly

just using common sense you can assume what "tee style" is

yes probably, that doesnt make it objective tho

what experience do you need to look at pictures

acqwerty is just trolling and noby saw it and is trolling too

what

noby

yes probably, that doesnt make it objective tho

did i said that it is?

no im not

im not either

louis

acqwerty is just trolling and noby saw it and is trolling too

real news

03:25

huge trolls

ok fine

03:25

send an image

03:25

ill tell u why its teeish or not (edited)

so its subjective then

and teach u how to use common sense

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kek

noby

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noby used to wear this shirt

03:27

thats why its unteeish

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03:27

nuage is not teeish because theres no feet right

03:27

pbody is also kinda not teeish because its from another game

03:27

the rest could be

onion is not teeish

its borderline

03:28

idk

pbody looks more teeish than nuage and onion

and this is why its subjective

03:28

lol

u dont need feet for it to be teeish

pbody only has one eye

03:28

tees have two eyes

onion has bad shadow

03:28

unteeish eyes

03:28

and no flat shading

louis

unteeish eyes

pbody too

pandabear is teeish

louis

u dont need feet for it to be teeish

yes, ghost skin looks teeish

nyu2 no shading but its kinda teeish since everything else fits, but its just a bad twinbop clone

03:29

oshawott is teeish but the body should be less white also it has a crusty render (edited)

lots of stuff has unteeish eyes

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03:30

are any of these unteeish

plsplsplslol

lots of stuff has unteeish eyes

but thats not the only reason for something to be considered unteeish

03:30

stop troll

yeah

03:30

thats why its subjective

noby

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besides the fact that some of those are ugly, they do look teeish

noby

are any of these unteeish

stick to 1 at a time plz

some more some les

emotion_robot not teeish

just answer 1 at a time

03:31

emotion_robot looks teeish to me

03:31

it just has weird eyes

yeah = not teeish

what

usually eyes arent that big of a deal

Souly

but thats not the only reason for something to be considered unteeish

ff

but if emotion_robot was to be accepted it needs fixed eyes since they are glowing and low quality

plsplsplslol

ff

thats just a strong reason for nouis

eartee unteeish cuz eyes too

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but ye i kinda agree

they literallyc opypasted anime eyes

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kek

most of those are unteeish but like souly said they also suck

louis

eartee unteeish cuz eyes too

yes but i dont get why pbody is teeish then

except a few of them

03:32

its kinda teeish

what about these

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03:33

most have weird eyes

the eye is better quality than that green robot eyes

babyYoda is not teeish

good quality eyes look weird in teeworlds

all teish except the marked one

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03:33

its obvious

giftee is a square

Souly

all teish except the marked one

bad client

plsplsplslol

what about these

im not pointing out all, just do 1 at a time

same as inbox

03:34

ok like zombietroll skin

03:34

the eye is not teeish but the skin still looks teeish

is aqua teeish?

giftee still same "radius" as a circle tho for the most part

noby

is aqua teeish?

no

no

right

03:34

but they accepted it

cuz jao is trolling

yeah we are stuck with it like tank kek

kek

antijao

louis

giftee still same "radius" as a circle tho for the most part

so doesnt have to be circular just same size?

some of those arent round enough but they still have that teeish look

plsplsplslol

so doesnt have to be circular just same size?

it has to be a simple shape and relatively same size for most of the body

03:35

u cant draw like some fractal shape

lol why did they make a cow skin theres already one

runouis

twcow

noby

bad client

best client with best skins

lol the cow skin is good

03:35

and the fox

03:35

and flokes

is this teeish

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runouis

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thank good at least 0.7 skin makers know what defines as "teeish"

07sucks

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07simp

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noby

is this teeish

it is teeish, just ugly

noby

is this teeish

yeah but it sucks

kek

Souly

thank good at least 0.7 skin makers know what defines as "teeish"

idk id say ghost and some other one is meh

giftee bad

03:36

and inbox

louis

idk id say ghost and some other one is meh

ghost has a bit weird eyes

giftee good

giftee is not circular

still good cuz u can modify those skins however you want

the ghost isnt teeish in that pic

neve said it had to be circular

03:37

it can be a little different shape

i did though

ok well ur wrong

says who

all vanilla tees are circular

not

noby

the ghost isnt teeish in that pic

yeah i agree the eyes suck idk why they added

louis

ok well ur wrong

no u

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itd be good w modified eyes

imagine not being able to customize your skins

also the shading is a little messed up xd

03:38

idk who made that

ur right theres 1 vanilla skin thats not circular

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03:38

noouis

Souly

imagine not being able to customize your skins

id rather have no custom skins and 0.6 client

yeah, and kitty and coala and redbopp and twinbop

they are circular

no

not entirely

noby

id rather have no custom skins and 0.6 client

what about 0.6 with 0.7 skins?

like not perfect circle

03:38

but circular

Souly

what about 0.6 with 0.7 skins?

that would be nice but not necessary imo

is it possible to host my own ddnet server for my friends and myself

yes

did you guys knew that its possible to pet your tee?

03:39

on 0.7

wowo

noby

yes

how can i do it?

make autoexec_server.cfg with ur settings that u want, open DDNet-Server executable, and forward port 8303 -> 8303 udp in ur router settings

Serenade

how can i do it?

https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?t=5095

or that

this tutorial should teach you how to set up a server

plsplsplslol

like not perfect circle

same with giftee

03:40

just 4 things on each corner

so there is no hard cutoff on how circular or not circular it must be

square does not look like circle

03:41

yes its subjective

ikr

also i think giftee is a good skin

happy

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being teeish has nothing to do with that

imagine not being able to pet your tee

its obv teeish

unteeish and good skin arent mtually exclusive

i dont think its teeish

its

03:42

just cus the body shape isnt circle doesnt mean its not teeish

03:42

it has to be the same size and something simple

03:42

same width and height

yes the requirement is subjective

well rly only width matters

this is teeish

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yes

03:42

hm

well its rounded

03:43

more teeish than giftee

well idk abt the hitbox on that

03:43

it looks kinda fat but yeah

it has better hitbox then giftee wtf

what about this

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plsplsplslol

more teeish than giftee

well yes but giftee is also teeish

ok well if its same its fine

noby

what about this

meh

i dont think so

03:43

square is not very teeish

is there a way i can just buy a server or something

03:43

port forwarding is stupid

its not shaded well

Serenade

is there a way i can just buy a server or something

ja man send me $5

03:43

troll

@Serenade https://trashmap.timakro.de/

what are u using the server for @Serenade

ill do it for $4

Serenade trashmap

no usa trashmap

who cares

USA bad

1

i just wanna be able to play with just my friends

bum

hamburger country

u could use a trashmap but it will be based in germany so it'll have high ping

03:44

i could maybe set smth up for u tho

who cares lol

03:45

just use antiping

well for 2p stuff it sucks

only if its stupid flow part

Serenade

i just wanna be able to play with just my friends

just play in /team

03:49

if u host ur own server u wont get points on ddnet

oh really?

ya

dang

yes it would be too easy to cheat that way

03:49

lol

oh well ye if u just want to play maps with ur friends and get points just go in a /team

Serenade

oh really?

open source server, u could just modify it to report that ur tee got all rank1s

and if ppl join u kinda have to all hop to another server to vote a new map

oh yeah what's up with some people

03:54

their times on some maps*

03:54

they have the name cheat in them what's that mean

u mean N9mkOik

yea

03:55

i've seen a couple other names too but i don't remember them

louis [CHEAT]

im gonna do Souly [CHEAT] tommorow

Serenade

they have the name cheat in them what's that mean

I think so when ppl say "omg I bet you cheated this" they can say "yeah lol ikr look at my name" to get them.

yeah it doesnt mean its actually cheated

04:00

cheated ranks get deletedf

04:00

n9 did bot think_bot

think_bot

but the [cheat] name is just sm joke or idk (edited)

yup

louis

cheated ranks get deletedf

not all

04:01

justatest

pepe16

Chatters still rank 2 on ds2 after 2 years trollet

trollet

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zzzz

07:31

afksti

whats ds2

why frog

07:51

its botted run from random russian with novice skill

plsplsplslol

whats ds2

dark souls 2 obviously

07:51

tee_thinking

those russian botters are everywhere..

Nah it’s the power of vodka

stop racism

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plsplsplslol

whats ds2

acqwerty: darkspy2

Kicker

why frog

sapo weon

kettu

stop racism

@ᶰ°Konͧsti

Souly

@ᶰ°Konͧsti

@noby

cyberfighter

@noby

@plsplsplslol

troll

U

10:04

troll

u

kettu

stop racism

no

no racist pls

It's not racism

10:45

It's true that russians bot more often by some reason

10:46

That can be caused by a player who had a channel on yt and sometimes showed hack clients there (edited)

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think_bot

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WOW WHAT HOW

what is this wizardry

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justatest

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Tiffany

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wtf

wtf

wtf

what

what

what

what

what

OMG!!! EPIC!!!

that's a bot

itsabot

think_bot

think_bot

@Souly

justatest

15:15

freeze avoiding bot

i once managed to hook my mate out of freeze and hammer him

poggers

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15:29

i think its epic

You deserve a pepe blowjob

wtf

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why does the ger servers have so much lagg spikes

Ddos

so you say the servers getting ddosed every second

Which ger server?

there is a difference between lagg spikes and ddos

16:43

all

I have no issues

pol,rus servers better even with higher ping

Bad routing maybe

reo

is there any ddnet server in ger or sth without micro lags all few min? makes it kinda hard to play hammerhit maps 2p if all few min theres a short lag for 2-3 sec

y i guess u could call it lag spikes , so more ppl have the problem?

16:49

its recently that there short burts of lags on ger srvs

16:49

its not ddos

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16:52

i must keep calm

i started getting way more lagg spikes in this few weeks

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16:56

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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17:12

this is fking illegal

pls stop

ok

17:27

but i failed again

stop no

17:27

now

17:27

or i gonna kill you

@Souly i know an easy map

what's wrong with screenshots above lol

17:27

xd

dunno x)

section name "General discussion"

17:28

post it in showroom and no complaints

ops

17:28

rsrsrs

greenthing

greenthing

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I.K.U

section name "General discussion"

section 2 ball stretcher justatest

justatest

@I.K.U only ger3 or also ger2?

both

deen

@I.K.U only ger3 or also ger2?

all ger server

I.K.U

both

yeah same xd past few weeks i guess maybe month

Then it's not a problem of our servers but of your ISP's routing to Frankfurt

is there a way to fix that?

you could run a traceroute to the servers and send that to your ISP, asking them to fix it

how likely is it that the ISP will do anything about it when i do a traceroute and send it to them? probably very unlikely or? im at telekom if that matters

Even if it's unlikely they are going to fix it, it's still worth a shot. It doesn't take very long to do either

17:49

Pingplotter is free I think, has pretty straight forward interface

i will try, that's all i can rly do i guess

18:10

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18:10

how does it work

18:10

what ip should i put

you can try ger2.ddnet.tw and ger3.ddnet.tw

18:15

without the :8298

ah okay

18:15

that works

18:17

i guess i will see down there then if some big spike happens?

maybe

Someone realized its Winter? justatest

justatest

nope mask covers my eyes cant see

justatest

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The Autobahn next to me is full of trucks for 15h on a length of 30-40km justatest

justatest

monkalaugh

I'm happy in a Winter Wonderland

I trolled them all and just drove on the other side

18:35

troll

18:35

ifghost

such a troll haha

u

afksti

zzzz

18:36

afksti

❌

zzzz

afksti

U

rerate race

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realnews

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thistbh

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u

add back pikachu_1 #freepikachu_1

Bring back Lunar Base

18:38

by just reverting double Explosion "fix"

ban back konsti

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noban

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f4 fv

Fv

fv no ban

18:38

❌

bankonsti

yeee

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jao back to test leader

poggers

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18:39

and rls shoktsunami

18:39

@ᶰ°Konͧsti : the story of big troll

18:56

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konsti

konstitroll

nobyisthebiggesttroll

noby

im not a troll at all

Yes you are

troll

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someone know some tutorial on how to unfreeze thru freeze block like here in grandma?

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Uroboros

a led

utf

just aled

not aled

20:24

@crqch

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its not aled delete

funny that in french "à l'aide" means help me

20:45

and sound exactly like "aled" (edited)

really

meal

@Im 'corneum flag_cl Top 1 rank on [Dummy] Fallen Fortress: 00:00.64 learn2test (next best time: 01:35.36 - 99.3% improvement!)

justatest

kek

oof

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a: buse

a: buse

zzzz

22:50

ahahahahha i love these people that post videos of them doing the edge jump

0.1 bobux (edited)

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