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Between 2021-01-17 00:00:00Z and 2021-01-18 00:00:00Z
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@deen about your announcement. Can't it be a optional server setting?
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We don't like to introduce more settings and have inconsistent maps, but maybe if it breaks maps
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it will break maps
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It surely will.
09:54
And if 2 Tees have strong on each other it might also lead to a new fly technique which might break old ranks
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Breaking old ranks would definitely happen, you can do maps a bit faster if everyone has strong
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you should know already by experience that any physic change breaks stuff
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Yes but there are also parts that only work with week
09:55
thats true
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Kog already has this right?
09:57
It would be better if you can control your hook choice with a command
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weak hook is awful, from my experience it only makes some parts not work
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YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 09:58:22Z
ultimate stability means that nothing interesting can ever happen
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Except one or two maps which will forever be unfinished and nobody notices like lunar base
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if nobody notices then nobody cares enough
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@Im 'corneum when this vote no succeeds, make a map that uses weak hook exhaustively, so we will always have the excuse
09:59
5head
09:59
monkalaugh
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Just make it optional for every player and is gonna be fine
09:59
I like the idea actually. It's just risky
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this russian guy is just a cry baby that needs everything given in a silver plate
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look, he even complains about rank 1 cuz he cant achieve em
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this is the kind of guy we r dealing with
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Oh god
10:01
I changed my vote to no
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give konsti permanent weak hook
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russian guuy biggest trashtalker
10:02
he cry about everything
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and want changes
10:02
just l2p with weak
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i vote yes because im bad at the game and strong makes it easier to play
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best feature
10:02
yes strong makes easier to play
10:03
and unfair for ppl that already played this years with weak
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just remove the freeze
f3 5
10:03
it makes it easier to play
10:03
also give jetpack at start
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also let players buy endless hook
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with russian rubbles
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Tw by ea
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remove start line and add /start command 🙂 ty
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as a mapper not having to always deal with weak and test parts twice would be godly
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weak hook is confusing to new players
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"sorry, you already had 5 tries. Watch this add or buy ddnet pro account to get unlimited attempts on a map"
troll 1
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@noby this is such a bad statement
10:05
lot of things areconfusing when u start this game
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im voting no cuz russian
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like hooking thourgh a corner
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or flying
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u just learn to deal with it
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u will remove the essence of what ddneti s
10:05
by doing such stupid changes
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they should fix the bug where u can hook thru corners as well
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YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 10:05:46Z
@Ryozuki you sound like the most important person, what's your GitHub username?
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im not important
10:06
“It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.” ― George Orwell, 1984 - edg-l
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but here u have
10:06
feel free to sponsor me
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in what fucking game can you fly when someone hits you with a melee and you grapple him
DDNet2 3
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Ryozuki
by doing such stupid changes
removing something that nobody likes is not a stupid change
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not everybody dislikes it
10:07
/spec already solves this problem
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no it doesn't
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what about maps that do not have /spec enabled
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they are old maps and should be left as is
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@evgesha wants to add accou- and then konsti alts flood the server and spam no votes
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@Ravie im sure lot of people dislike aled and 3 hammer fly
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It should be the new norm for all coming maps but still be a option
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i hate aled
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Ryozuki
@Ravie im sure lot of people dislike aled and 3 hammer fly
well a lot of people like them as well
10:08
monkalaugh
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Ravie
well a lot of people like them as well
see, u said what i said before
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no, I said "like" and you said "not dislike"
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its the same
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well im sure a lot of ppl like weak too
10:10
there u have
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nobody likes weak, some people just dislike change
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u dont know
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I do, weak hook is always only an inconvenience
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YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 10:11:40Z
the vote is not to remove weak hook once and for all, but to make strong the deterministic default instead of relying on decade old bugs
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weak and strong is deterministic already
10:12
its decided when you spawn
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and by removing weak we also remove people who ask for strong before every goddamn part
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Then it should still leave open the possibility to get weak hook somehow
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YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 10:14:27Z
spawn order ➜ execution order affecting game physics is what I mean by "decade old bugs"
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ddnet relies on bugs to make the gameplay
10:14
hooking though a corner is a bug
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Like when U need to gently hook someone in a hole
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I’m so sick of all these people that think they’re gamers. No, you’re not. Most of you are not even close to being gamers. I see these people saying “Everyone should have strong hook, it’s great!” that’s nothing, most of us can easily play ddnet with weak. I see people who only have 200 points and claim to be gamers. Come talk to me when you pick up a deepfly bind then we will be friends
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I’m so sick of all these people that think they’re gamers. No, you’re not. Most of you are not even close to being gamers. I see these people saying “Everyone should have strong hook, it’s great!” that’s nothing, most of us can easily play ddnet with weak. I see people who only have 200 points and claim to be gamers. Come talk to me when you pick up a deepfly bind then we will be friends
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@cyberfighter do u invent these pastas or what
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everyday a new one
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monkalaugh
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there are lot of bugs that make up ddnet gameplay
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shotgun, ninja, hooking through corners, edge hook etc
10:17
hammer fly
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there arent downsides to those things
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nor to weak
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YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 10:18:01Z
all of the listed things work the same at any given point
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same with weak
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Yes same with weak
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weak is not random
10:18
why u try to make it sound like it is
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YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 10:18:50Z
weak requires spawn order, you cannot tell if you have it until you hook the person (edited)
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they should make it so only the first person to spawn can hook thru corners
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its still the same always
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Hook diversity is our strong
10:21
Spread the word
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keep ddnet great
10:21
monkalaugh
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snail and aoe voted no
10:21
the vote is decided
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Can't believe the racism against weak hook here
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jao too
10:21
monkalaugh
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YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 10:22:23Z
I'm sure I could come back here in 10 years and not a single thing will change At least someone contributed a normal-looking chat log
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as long as there are stubborn oldschoolers resisting changes there will never be improvement
f3 1
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and thats not a bad thing
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The pros say no. Racine and boby say yes. Curious
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Ravie
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hilarious that noby votes
10:23
when he only plays fng
10:23
his points are from random fakers
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Yes
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nobys vote should be removed tbh
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weak hook should be removed tbh
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yes the points on noby name are from fakers
10:23
but i have 500 pts on fake name legit
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u only troll
10:23
biggest troll haha
10:23
gottem
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ppl that have lot of experience in the game vote no, ppl thath as over 1k hours should know better than randoms that joined from steam
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Yeah I'm sure the whole top 20 would vote no
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weight the votes by ddnet pts
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Ryozuki
and thats not a bad thing
YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 10:25:53Z
no change means that eventually what can be done with existing tools is completely exhausted and the game is largely left to rot
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Ryozuki
ppl that have lot of experience in the game vote no, ppl thath as over 1k hours should know better than randoms that joined from steam
YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 10:26:05Z
is the last part regarding me?
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YellowAfterlife
no change means that eventually what can be done with existing tools is completely exhausted and the game is largely left to rot
no cuz therecan be infinite maps
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Yeah tw dies if we keep weak.
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tw has been dieying for 20 years
10:26
ddnet too
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Let's remove more things to keep it alive
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YellowAfterlife
is the last part regarding me?
regarding everyone new voting yes on this
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YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 10:29:07Z
I wrote netcode for a number of commercial titles if that helps any https://yal.cc/works/
Information about the projects that I've worked on over years - from small games and mods to well-known commercial titles.
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actually old players should know better than anyone how much weak sucks
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It's not about that
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Wtf this guy just joined for vote yes
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yeah it's about "change bad"
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its prob the russian guy alt account
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probably
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You will never be able to play a map like before. That alone is a red flag. JUST MAKE IT OPTIONAL
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making it optional just adds even more fuckery like /spec
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No. Just make it like this. /Weak /Strong
10:31
In chat
10:32
And strong is default
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just keep old physics on oldschool server for the old potatos to enjoy their old trash
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take pikachu_1 back
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Seems like nobody remembers what happened at the other physic changes
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average yes voters monkalaugh (edited)
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Im 'corneum
Seems like nobody remembers what happened at the other physic changes
yeah eventually everyone got over it and we have a better game now
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Okay
10:35
I mean the vote is won so there's no point in arguing
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there will be another one
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That's biased
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sooner or later this change must happen
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vote in 2022
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HOOK DIVERSITY IS OUR STRONG
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diversity = more gameplay
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or they should stop asking stubborn old players for their opinion and just do it
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do poll from best map 2020 would be better than this vote
10:37
🥺 🥺
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silex poggers
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greenthing
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texnonik
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poggers
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Literally only nonames on the yes vote
10:39
Cringe
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YellowAfterlife 2021-01-17 10:39:54Z
cringe is strong toxicity and half of server emojis being pepe
10:40
pepe best
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sickcunt literally a noname monkaS
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noby
but i have 500 pts on fake name legit
u cant even finish novice maps
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Ravie weak is your president. Cope
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copium
10:41
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I dont really care about strong/weak i dont see why it should be changed
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Ryozuki
@cyberfighter do u invent these pastas or what
justatest
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you can only either hate weak or not care
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Ryozuki
pepe best
#join-leave XD
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Also DEAR ALL WOMEN: Gores is not a real mode. City is not a real mode. Infc is not a real mode. Block is not a real mode. MMORPG is not a real mode. fng is NOT.A.REAL.MODE. put down the baby modes and play something that requires challenge and skill for once.
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YellowAfterlife
@Ryozuki you sound like the most important person, what's your GitHub username?
I wonder why he asked for my github
10:47
monkalaugh
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ese ruso culiao
10:49
más lloron
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fighting for weak/strong is part of the ddnet experience too
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I remember planning out who did which parts based on weak/strong when trying to speedrun a map. That used to be kinda fun
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Ryozuki
I wonder why he asked for my github
Дядя Женя 2021-01-17 12:03:01Z
cuz he knows you means nothing but acting like the most important thing over here so wanted to be sure by seeing you can't even program anything (edited)
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Дядя Женя
cuz he knows you means nothing but acting like the most important thing over here so wanted to be sure by seeing you can't even program anything (edited)
thats why he went mute after i sent it to him
12:03
cmon man
12:03
look ur prs
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Дядя Женя 2021-01-17 12:03:31Z
hah
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ur last
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u can see where u dont copy paste code
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because u dont follow the naming conventions there
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its rly funny
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u are just an obnoxius programmer wannabe
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thats shits on others who disagree with u
12:04
just leave this server, literally everyone is annoyed by you
12:04
even the other devs
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Дядя Женя 2021-01-17 12:04:32Z
The truth is that no one cares about you and your life, so do I. And I have a skill, work and place in that world unlike you
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why are u projecting?
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Дядя Женя 2021-01-17 12:04:43Z
So once again I'll ignore you while you cry)
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thats why u read the backlog and talk to me
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ur hilarious
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and ur obessed with ppl caring about ur life
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shows how pittiful u are
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projecting
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this defines u so perfectly
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i do really pitty you, ur life must be so empty that u have to shit on others "life" to feel something, must be really sad (edited)
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Ryozuki
Click to see attachment 🖼️
this is much better
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2021-01-17 12:35:35Z
yesn't
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I remember a few maps where weak was helpful.
15:10
The parts were something like that.
15:58
@ᶰ°Konͧsti boomer meme
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2021-01-17 15:59:14Z
lmaoooo
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don't download random executables off the internet ^^
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think twice.
I remember a few maps where weak was helpful.
lel i just tested this, and yes, its a lot easier with week hook
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thanks for good example
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i dont use spotify
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idk if i get paid if u stream on yt
16:33
but that's the EP uploaded by my distributor (edited)
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Spotify pays you like 0.034ct
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wtf is this?
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@Hemingway
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sure
17:55
well he speaks exactly likeu
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u got busted g
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2021-01-17 18:00:15Z
Ok now what
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sheesh
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@Nooback
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@Ronan we beat u
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might wanna check ur rank then homie
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pls meme
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