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Between 2021-01-06 00:00:00Z and 2021-01-07 00:00:00Z

bro wtf

05:15

visual studio fucking sucks

05:15

rider for the win

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

e693eae M Reckless - ddnet-maps

what is rider lul

nothing, use vim

09:05

pepe_straight

i wish github notifications redirected you when someone force pushes after the notif

09:28

its so annoying

09:28

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@deen serverlist is not showing the flag on finished maps

works for me

oh

10:16

indicate map finish turned off for some reason

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3481 prediction bug on dummy spec while holding hook and cl_dummy_resetonswitch 1

If you have cl_dummy_resetonswitch 1 and hold hook on a wall on dummy, spec, and change to main tee, the dummy's hook will be invisible. Antiping must be enabled too. Steps to reproduce: cl_dummy_resetonswitch 1 antiping on connect dummy, hold hook on a wall and spec while holding hook so the hook stays switch to main drag dummy tee with main, see that the hook isn't rendered and the prediction is bugged

nouis

4

antiping is always bugged

@noby what do you do to combat imposters in fng destroying other users KD?

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3416 Scrollbar goes out of bounce for 1 frame

16:18

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

0884204 Fix scrollbar going out of bounce (fixes #3416) - def- 4fb8798 Merge #3474 - bors[bot]

16:18

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3474 Fix scrollbar going out of bounce (fixes #3416)

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3464 updated blockworlds entities (cleaner & playable)

16:33

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

a06a063 Update ingame blockworlds entities by Brokecdx (fixes #3464) - def- 3b26230 Merge #3471 - bors[bot]

16:33

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3471 Update ingame blockworlds entities by Brokecdx (fixes #3464)

@ChillerDragon ban them

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3482 typo in gamecontext.cpp

specators...

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-add...

manually?

yeah do u have a better idea

17:32

besides using ip ranges to guess if its really a faker

oof ofc i would never thing of something stoopid like ip ranges :/

17:43

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17:44

its this time of the day again where pkill hangs forever because firefox hang in crash it cant be closed

17:44

xd

17:45

well htop is not starting either

17:45

any ideas?

17:50

reboot it is

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

ef2dd39 typo in gamecontext.cpp - hhh26459 1208b84 Merge #3482 - bors[bot]

18:17

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3482 typo in gamecontext.cpp

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3479 Client Crash in client with too many grenades

19:57

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

2e5a13e Fix client crash with too many items (fixes #3479) - def- d65ae49 Merge #3480 - bors[bot]

19:57

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3480 Fix client crash with too many items (fixes #3479)

why doesn't /pause stop time on solo maps?

21:11

pause was made for it, no?

pause is for spectating

then why is there also /spec

on some maps, you despawn your character with s/

21:24

/spec

anyway my question was: why doesn't /pause stop time on solo maps?

21:25

pause is pause

21:25

break

then you would have to pause tee

21:27

frame by frame input justatest

justatest

to simply answer that question: pause doesn't pause your time because it never did. I have the feeling that this wasn't a question, actually, though, but a suggestion

this is my indignation, not a question, i guess

why indignation?

21:42

it does sound exploitable to be able to stop time

21:43

should probably add some time and at that point i think it would annoy some people that use it regularly

on solo maps? really?

ye, if added it would need to be very specific things like must be standing on a tile, no nades/weapons in play

21:44

or else there'd probs be exploits

every tee on solo map has his own world

21:45

they can be paused, just whole projectile collection and tee will pause

21:45

remember this /pause on twplus servers?

21:46

it just paused gameplay

i think u could pause on rly hard parts and plan movements in advance, etc

even if we suppose that pausing the world is perfectly done, it might enable setups that would be hard otherwise

tees don't have their own worlds

21:53

I worked on making that happen for ddnet7 but it's not trivial. In reality teams all share the same gameworld

ddnet 2

21:53

Learath2

I worked on making that happen for ddnet7 but it's not trivial. In reality teams all share the same gameworld

okey, then it will just check grounded and so on like louis suggested

"so on" is where trouble happens

21:55

You can never quite know you got the "so on" part right. All 3 of us reviewed the practice feature before merging it, there still were mistakes made in the "so on" part

okey? group of testers or test server will be pretty good thing

We do release candidates now, about 3 people check them. In reality people don't care to test anything

I think what Learath2 wants to say is that we likely won't implement the feature, as we don't feel confident about it

Learath2

We do release candidates now, about 3 people check them. In reality people don't care to test anything

its not about "test", it should sound like "hey guys, there are new features, you can see them before release"

if you want to have a go at it, go ahead, and we'll try to assist you with testing; but you also need to address gameplay concerns first that this might enable new stuff

gerdoe

its not about "test", it should sound like "hey guys, there are new features, you can see them before release"

yes if a rc has cool features i usually do it but otherwise not much

Is there really any value in this?

hm, we have test servers for map testing

22:00

why are features test servers anything foreign then (edited)

set some up

noby's fng is up already xd

22:04

okay I didn't want to press on you or something just any update for you and for us is some kind of risk something can be misconfigured or misunderstood and so on

If we had some very cool new gameplay feature requiring testing it would work. We had servers for the first strong/weak fix we tried, we had servers for telegun.

22:07

This feature would be something so minor people won't even notice. The kind of testing we need for this is rigorous testing trying to break it, the kind Konsti and Sp Someone do and they won't waste their best ideas to report the issues to us. They'll just wait until we release it and they'll abuse it instead

22:07

Anyway, as heinrich said, if you make it, we'll review it as with any other change. Though I don't really see much value in it as a feature

coffee break while long solo map speedrun xd

do /save

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