DDraceNetwork - general

Noe 2020-12-26 00:25:27Z

server down?

02:12

DDNet GER 2?

02:14

mhm, weird

@Anubis Go to #bot-cmds and type $ddos If you want to know if a server is down

all good, its back up now and i fell into a non faily bit

02:18

also

hey

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11:00

oh great a dead chat

@Tlalok found ur friend

lmao

12:11

no answer within a minute DeAd ChAt

hey

hi

how you doing?

hi

doo you whant to help me on a map?

hello there

hello

what map?

idk

12:59

wait ima look

13:00

but since im a very newbie i dont knwow how to make lan server

13:00

wait i knwow but not how to change map

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so yea let just say multimap

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join the 0 player

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ima join after

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k but how?

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if it the command then i knwow

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but other than that idk

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because no one whant to join me in a team

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that what i always doo

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but they can't see it

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idk

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i say "join team 32"

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then i wait

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so i doo in sort im in team 0 again

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because everyone is that stupid to see just a text

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that what i doo but it just not much fun

team 0 is the best

nothing

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exept troller

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and random kicker

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k

@deen is possible to see own ping (same like cl_showfps 1)?

press tab lol

cl_showpred

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if u have ddnet client

for real tho i think in debug mode you can see your network stat but debug mode will tank your performance

cl_showpred shows the debug thing

13:24

without all the other stuff

oh then ye, do that lol

13:24

does it show server side position too

what password of trash maps?

It's set up by the server author

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@ZimE cl_showpred 1

15:19

it's how much prediction you get, so how far behind you see other tees

15:20

more useful than ping

Hi there. How could a guy become an Admin of DDNet ?

there is no predefined process

21:05

for moderators, such a process exists

I need to become Admin

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21:06

@louis you dont want me ?

21:07

@heinrich5991 I will be too useful admin. I can even sponsor your entire expenditures

nobody "needs" to become admin tho

I need to proof my mother I do some important thing in the life

lul

people who are admin have been in the community for a long time, I don't think I've seen you around before tbh

usefulness the most important thing I guess in comparison to being old member of the community

old members help with the trust issue I guess

21:13

however, doing things and having good ideas is very appreciated

I can invest money in DDnet's client. Hire a dev team for full time job

21:13

I guess its too usefull

how much money justatest

I would start with 20k euro at the beginning

21:14

with average middle devloper salary 2500-3500 euro per m,onth

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and PM for 3k i guess

21:15

a SCRUM team with 6-7 people wont cost too much

so

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ur going to prove to your parents that you did something important by donating $20k to a game to get admin

yes I wanna make them know That Im an admin of the large online game and known influencer in online game industry

21:18

so they will be proud of me

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can u write this?

no

ok

21:20

thx

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cyberfighter2009proMinecraft

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may i get banned?

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for iy

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itttt

@Tlalok injecting money into an open-source game is probably not so easy. you could try by tackling a small issue on the issue tracker to see if it works out

we may use Jira

21:25

then commit the porject to github repository (edited)

but I guess you're not interested if that doesn't immediately guarantee some admin status

they r too smart for me

new changes will be awesome

21:26

with that huge investment we may redesign the client completely making the DDnet the main client of the game

no

21:27

its perfect as it is

seems Bumm is from Republican USA party

So funny

incremental improvement is probably the way to go. anyway, I don't see this working. you could try pinging an admin about this, idk

Ddnet is the main client of the game

bruuh

Pro

@heinrich5991 we may talk to Magnus Auvinen (edited)

ehm

21:29

Magnus Auvinen is no longer a part of any of this

so he would provide us with some kind of licence

Oy/Dune are probably good targets for Teeworlds, deen/Learath2/… would be interesting for ddnet

if its getting much serious we may create DDNet company and then acquire Teeworlds as TM and its assets

wait is oy and magnus auvinen different people

yes @louis

21:31

magnus auvinen is matricks

DDnet stock market

Nouis will be the currency

if the game will be too great after development its also possible to IPO

21:32

if we would increase online x100 and then make a donation system

I think we should make a nouis cryptocurrency

My parents are just huge entrepreneurs so they are ready to give me a lot of money for a project. They wanna stop me drinking beer everyday

Sus

I don't even think you could acquire teeworlds, all the contributors contribute to the code under zlib license

my father once told me - "you may acquire everrything you want the thing is costs"

your father is right, as long as you are the saudi prince

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All you need to do is to pay off all the contributors and pay off a judge or two

21:36

With enough money everything is doable, such money is rarely accessible to people and people with such money are more interested in buying entire countries than open source games

Cant wait for microtransactions

not a saudi prince

You could though fork teeworlds and sell that, zlib is very permissive. No way for you to make it exclusive to yourself though

my father is Chuck Magro

do you even play this game?

yes sure

we need to confirm, send $10000000 to deen please

21:38

@heinrich5991 i think the guy is just trolling

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You could hire developers and make them work on ddnet

hah my family isnt so rich

But trying to buy a whole game

I know it sounds a bit unusual

21:39

but I lvoe this game

@Ryozuki I considered this, but I still gave reasonable answers I think. I'm done ^^

@Ryozuki he probably is, but who cares, it's fun to talk about the possibility of someone being filthy rich

Donate to ddnet

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21:40

Help them like this

but I want to be Admin

and whats your nickname tlalok?

Anyway, deen already said in the past that he is not interested in selling ddnet at all. Doubt he'd change his mind anyway

I dont wanna him to sell Ddnet

deen wont sell

we talked about legali ssues with Teeworlds if we would start it

he said so few days ago

21:41

and u would only make this game die

ddnet is under the same license so you can't have it exclusive either

21:42

You could buy the infrastructure that is ddnet, but as said deen is not interested

what if someone offered deen like 50 million

I mean you can probably start your own game from ddnet

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it has a very liberal license (so does teeworlds)

this guy is just increadible disrespectful towards this game

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Im not sure if DDnet cost more than 1kk

In the future ddnet will be worth $3 trillion feelsamazingman

u dont have many games averaging 1k players each day

but its not monetised yet

it costs however much the owner says it costs, if he is not willing to sell it at a price you aren't buying it at that price

and it will never be

don't monetise tw please, ty

scarce goods

i would actively develop a fork against ur company

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if u would monetise

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ddnet

I was wondering, what if we monetize a bit to reinvest?

its okay to use CS GO model

yeah i think monetization in some cases could allow growth justatest

like commercial skins etc

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xD go to hell troll

donations are always covered and we stop asking there

i said before that maybe u could buy beefier servers with monetization but i think learath or someone said beefier serveers dont help with ddos

if u need money for dev i would first ask for donos

Mcdonalds skin

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and not monetise a free open game

it shouldnt be free open game

30sec ad after voting

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it is and it should

imagine how much money you may invest in marketing

imagine unironaclly saying it shouldng be free and open

Imagine how awful would the game be if it had skins commercialized

from the money you earn from paid skins etc

Who would do that

not all ppl are greedy bastards

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and we are lucky to have deen

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also subscribe system sounds great as well

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XD

haha

man every stuff u suggest makes me more annoying

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annoyed*

He troll

incredible

Bigger troll than noby

that insane how bad your ideas are

21:47

ngl

its just a controversial point of view stop being too untolerated

Imagine being troller than noby

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Let's do a skin market, and you know what? Bring out mounts that costs 25€ but do nothing at all, monthly subscription aswell dudes! HR_POGShake

Lootboxes

YEEES

sound epic

yes CS GO model as I told you

epicly bad

lootboxes is just a first step

add pets / hats u get if u complete hard maps greenthing

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Weapons unlockable only by paying 500€

New cases: Shadow Hail and keys costs 3€

(Each weapon for 500€)

adding pets is just an amazing feature

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@louis you may become a product manager

louis

add pets / hats u get if u complete hard maps greenthing

wait that not a bad idea

yeah

Omg i got idea

like flying fairy that boosts your tee

As if 20 tees at one part of the map isn't enough, nah let's add some pets so that people can't even see shit KEKW

(edited)

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some new armors for the tees

no

helmets e

We have a skin databank with such stuff

did this guy even play this game once

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so we have a lot of predefined asssets

ScReeNy

did this guy even play this game once

i don’t think so

we can also make a market where tees may sell their items

holy

omg

21:51

can i please sell ranks legaly?

21:51

big business

ranks would be changes to a lvl system

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changed*

wow

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meanwhile we dont even get the community to a account system

account system should be created for sure

21:52

thats high lvl requirements

Go ahead and code everything please.

market system is good but shouldnt be monetized

Omg looks like shit

cus then u can do rags to riches

insane @Deleted User POG

P2W ddnet

Account system sux

make dash ability (like ninja) where if u double tap a direction u do a short dash that keeps momentum

but the only reason somebody would every play ur shit clone, is cause u are killing everyone else

@louis add a pet nouis that follows u

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mini nouis

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it also should be converted into 3d version of the game (edited)

ok

21:54

this guy is legit trolling

Someone tried that

confirmed

Come code it first

There is a YouTube video of that

I saw that perfect idea

@Tlalok product manager, jira, scrum. help, are you planning to make my project of joy into a second full-time job?

@deen dont you wanna be a CEO ?

LMAO

I KNEW THERE IS A VIDEO

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig165lpGzwc

DarkDL1

Teeworlds 3D | Gameplay

thats by g@mer

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Cute

21:56

Hire me

photoshop skills 100000

that low res jao

That is zelda

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Nobo

jao_reeeeeeechts!

I bet Jao will be happy to make such changes with the game

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If he isn't rechts i don't want jao

@Tlalok nope, just want to see people have fun on DDNet, all for free and open source

it will be open source and free

21:58

with paid content and premium accounts

so if you want to help with that target, great

21:58

paid content and premium accounts is not "all for free"

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deen

@Tlalok nope, just want to see people have fun on DDNet, all for free and open source

when notice i use dummy name for donates ?

f2p system its okay

21:59

you guessed why roblox is too famous ?

The goal is not to become famous

22:00

We have an existing community of players, so we should cater to them, while also allowing new players to join, that's enough from my point of view.

the game should hype again

Plant

when notice i use dummy name for donates ?

plantroll

plsplsplslol

plantroll

ikr

the game will hype as hell once we would provide it with the second life (edited)

22:02

also provoke 1 million youtube bloggers stream that game after the huge update

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I bet even pewdiepie will do it

One of the reasons people play the game now is its community and the changes you suggest will totally kill this nice atmosphere

if a huge youtuber or streamer plays it, it'll die immediately after as there aren't enough servers to support a sudden boom xd

22:03

imo

I mean nothing is stopping you from forking this game and doing these "improvements" like ingame benefits etc.

yes we will loose some old conservative players but we will get the huge wave of newcomers

the ddnet and teeworlds licenses work for that

22:03

(you don't need additional permission from us or teeworlds) (edited)

@louis im ready to invest huge money into technical things

Tlalok

yes we will loose some old conservative players but we will get the huge wave of newcomers

Why do we need newcomers

@Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance so the game doesn't die. see how the steam launch breathed some life into the game

imagine a server with 1k simultaniously active players ?

i rather die

I personally like how the game lives now

@Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance thats cuz you dont see the new one

@Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance in general, all else being equal, more players is probably more good

But not that many new players I think

I don't want to have the methods Tlalok is proposing, but I agree with that point

People don't know what they want until you show it to them. That's why I never rely on market research. Our task is to read things that are not yet on the page.

22:05

steve Jobs

22:06

the game is too conservative with a lot of old cliche it needs new breath

22:07

I heard that Deen is currently 55 + years old. How an old man can rule boomber's generation ?

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22:07

obviously he will stand by his grandpa stuf

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@Tlalok please stop insulting others

sorry if it insults

22:08

I meant that we need new breath and new ideas

You are very unprofessional for trying to invest

idk if thats his age, but it has proven to be rly good to have an old and mature leader

22:08

same goes for 2nd biggest community

Deen is King

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I dont know how to invest but I want to bound my life with DDnet

then why insult the owner

sorry for being a bit harsh I didnt mean that

if u want to invest so bad, why dont pay for all 2021 servers now

@Deleted User I will make some inferences after your words

Would you pay moderators?

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its a semi-solution

22:10

I wanna make completely new game

22:10

based on Teeworlds ideals

@Tlalok you can actually do that

22:10

just take the source of ddnet/teeworlds and build the game

22:10

you don't need additional licenses

22:10

it's already free for anyone to modify and sell

I cant do that without domain experts of Teeworlds like you @heinrich5991

heinrich5991

just take the source of ddnet/teeworlds and build the game

well i don’t think is easy hmm ?

just code duh

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22:11

Tlalok

steve Jobs

a overrated guy

I heard some of you play this game for 20+ years

the domain experts don't really feel this is the way to go

since Teewars

So I doubt you'll find any willing to go with your plan

Ive been playing teeworlds for thr last 32 years

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Wtf

32years rookie numbers

@Learath2 I'm sure there's someone among the developers willing to work full-time on a teeworlds fork

I played teeworlds in jurassic era

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22:12

Lies

Wow ur old

but… I don't think that's all it takes

@Gobrox playing 8 years with 4 dummies all day doesn't count as 32 years

No lies 100% real no fake

@deen

playing with @cyberfighter cyberlagger Sadge

I agree with @Tlalok .The freedom that is in this game is still untapped, and it has a huge potential to get hyped by streamers. Ofc, you can make a joke of it or accept the game with avg. 1000players, but it would be nice to make a bigger community, and make the game even better!

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I mean not exactly 20+ years old but 17 years old

@Gobrox you playing with 4 dummies now ?

u dont need a company for it to be famous and streamers stuff

U could pay a streamer rn

heinrich5991

@Learath2 I'm sure there's someone among the developers willing to work full-time on a teeworlds fork

I am, but I'm not interested enough to forgo my ideals for it, though I'm more stubborn than most so he might indeed find someone

u could def sponsor a decently sized streamer and have the game multiply in hype

Yes 4 dummy for 4q 4u all those amol maps

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it should an entire new project I dont see it just a current marketing

Anyway, if you want to breathe some life into DDNet, that's great. And I'd be happy to have the problem of having to scale to many more players

I swap to dummy3 dummy4 with foot pedals

scale vertically or horizonatlly

We need new amol maps

@Ryozuki gofundme soon justatest

Gobrox

I swap to dummy3 dummy4 with foot pedals

that insane teach me

amol genericore

u would need an actual tutorial in that case tho

fund a new tutorial

ok @Learath2 ill pay u 2 bucks to make a tutorial

Plant

that insane teach me

U need a driving license

before tutorial we need server side localization

22:16

ther eis a issue in github already

Gobrox

U need a driving license

bruh

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Ryozuki

before tutorial we need server side localization

whats that

I already said I'm willing to do any needed development work for a tutorial, we just don't have a mapper

@louis "louis finished in 30 minutes!" -> "louis ha acabado en 30 minutos"

@Tlalok u will be best moderator with ur threats feelsamazingman

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@louis server messages arent translated

AHHAHA

22:17

Wtf

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3091

@cyberfighter hpw much time did you spend to ps it ?

2 seconds

i dont even have that skin xD

@Tlalok i realy had hopes for u to become mod but this is just a no

@KaipTataPasake you think its my words ?

playing the fake card

22:19

to his defense

22:19

its very easy to fake that

that troll @cyberfighter always tries to humiliate me

you dont even need to photoshop anything

Gobrox

its very easy to fake that

he is a noname

22:19

i doubt he got faked

If ddnet will ever become commercial it will ruin my love to it feelsbadman

22:20

But who cares

we do

@Deleted User no worries, it won't

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22:21

whatever, we ought to make this game great again

But it already is

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22:23

yes

Maybe not for all

A proper tutorial would be great, we'd need a good mapper to work on it and tell the developers what they need (edited)

it ll be perfect if we could connect a 3rd dummy without opening an other ddnet client

delete dummies

22:25

make AI that you can run maps with

22:25

I guess we should remove dummies at all

im good mapper

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so people have to find a partner

stfu

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@cyberfighter please watch your language

fuck

22:26

shit

Imagine removing dummies and having to force a friend to be afk for 2hours for you to complete a dummy map

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ass

22:26

bitch

please mute that inadequate player @cyberfighter

this guy clearly hasnt played the game

"lets make teeworlds great again"

By removing dummies we lose all our dummy god players

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Lol

haha

yes I have been trying find a clan (edited)

22:29

whats wrong with that clan ?

a moderator from blockmark would be very great

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22:29

but they didnt accept me

22:29

whats wrong of willing to join a clan ?

cuz ur too bad even to block

must be hard if even blockmark declines you xd

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i should join blockmark cuz im blue troll

I remember my retarded times when i was nobo playng some novice maps and some blockmark guy somewhere in middle of map while being in super

I tried to join havoc

whats being in super ?

@Tlalok do u wanna join Fighter's

Tlalok

whats being in super ?

Basically being in god mode

22:31

xd

@cyberfighter stop trollin me

22:31

in god mode on DDnet ?

22:31

are they admins ?

It was really long time ago

22:31

So idk

so its been admin's clan

22:32

so I see they declined me

Wtf

22:32

No

no ?

Ok u troll

omg

22:32

can you just explain your messages

22:33

you tell they admins now you tell me Im troll

I don't told they were admins

22:33

god mode you told

@cyberfighter you gotta take notes his trollness is more big than yours

LMFAO

only admin can do that

This doesn't mean they are admins

22:33

Wtf

then what does it mean omg ??

22:34

no logic ?

They hacked ddnet lol

haha stop trolling me

22:34

ye they even hacked trump's election

true

its a fact

If you say so

okay havoc isnt admin clan then who are they ?

https://ddnet.tw/staff/

blockmark = admins

Good people blocking bad people

why dont they have that clan's tag then ?

22:36

@cyberfighter you are still keep trolling me or what ?

No

22:37

Definitely not a troll

22:38

Well ok, basically, blockmark= people which enjoy blocking nobos making them suffering

22:38

:c

wow

22:38

Im glad I didnt join that clan

Okay troll

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22:39

U

I saw a lot of blockers in game i see how they ruin game experience

u

me ?

22:40

I just have been told by a guy "Just ignore him bro, you can't deal with a troll, or a pessimistic ppl like him"

22:40

I will flw his advice

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