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@KaipTataPasake

@chesnice murpi

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05:23

funny man doing funny spam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests for anyone wondering what the chinese government wants to hide

1989 Tiananmen Square protests

The Tiananmen Square protests or the Tiananmen Square Incident, commonly known as the June Fourth Incident (Chinese: 六四事件; pinyin: liùsì shìjiàn, literally the six-four incident) in mainland China, were student-led demonstrations held in Tiananmen Square in Beijing during 1989. The popular national movement inspired by the Beijing protests is so...

I think everybody knows that already

hm, don't know

05:48

let me ask a couple of friends

realsmiley

05:50

I wish I have friends

Go make ur wish real (edited)

Nah I'll stay in bed

05:53

why is that gif thing so high framerate

stickers

That's probably not a gif

it's a new discord thing

where

hasn't rolled out in all countries yet? maybe?

maybe i didnt update

i'm in discord beta and can't use this

you also need to pay discord

05:55

maybe that's the problem?

Probably

paying furries justatest

justatest

I "bought" a few free pack

05:57

Telegram have 60fps stickers which is pretty smooth

hm, it's a <canvas> in inspect element

justatest

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Maybe it's the same animated sticker format telegram made.

link?

https://telegram.org/blog/animated-stickers

Animated Stickers Done Right

We launched stickers back in January 2015. Since then, the Telegram sticker format has been adopted by other apps to reach a total of 2 billion people. Today we're introducing a new format for animated stickers.

Thanks to various optimizations, animated stickers consume less battery than GIFs

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well, that couldn't have been hard

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To create animated stickers for the Telegram platform, you will need the following: […] 2. Adobe After Effects.

paywall

06:01

piratewall actually

thonk

I'm sure the format is actually parsable by anybody.

06:04

Is there a open source/free vector graphic animation tool

good question actually. idk

06:05

https://www.synfig.org/ ?

Konstantin Dmitriev

Free and open-source animation software

06:06

never heard of it before

omg

06:06

that program sucks

06:06

so bad

06:07

either it sucks or i sucked at using it

Looks like it can export lottie

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Which can be converted to tgs

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thonk

06:09

China bad

how's the corona situation in china btw? they got mostly rid of it?

06:10

germany is at an all-time high rn

huh

and christmas isn't going to make it better

We are probably getting another wave

06:10

Currently is ok tho

06:12

I think we are moving students winter break around so people don't get on transport at the same during the new year season.

06:13

But I think new year is due for disaster for sure. We don't celebrate Christmas so we'll see in two months how we compare

06:13

is chinese new year at a different date?

Ye chinese new year is using chinese luna calendar so it is different each year

06:14

Normally around February

ah

06:14

like the christian holiday easter, which also moves around a bit

06:15

"first sunday after the first full moon in spring"

But currently it's cool. We haven't had a lockdown since I came back to china in october.

lockdown (whatever that specifically is) started at the beginning of november here

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and it's still ongoing, with no end in sight

06:18

but "lockdown" is probably a bit fuzzy, it's not exactly clear what it entails

06:19

idk. afk ^^

Kinda glad that I left uk tho

Wtf are those corona shit going on

06:24

I keep see people saying those dumb things

06:25

Wdym

06:26

The screenshot?

Yeah

i mean

Some dude been spaming bat soup at me

thonk

just pretend you're not chinese

MMM

06:29

OKAy

06:29

saddo

06:29

Saddie

aren't you playing in usa server

I play on any server

06:30

But I complete map on CAN

Maybe don't use flags:walkbert:

nouis

06:31

Sux

06:31

feelsbadman

thonk

I guess that's one good thing about having regional service operation exclusive for china via china corps.

06:33

Less bs

06:34

~~More censorship tho~~

justatest

06:34

Gotta download vpn if I go back

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Or just dontt

????!!!

Although I feel pretty good coming back. Especially this year and how uk is doing rn.

I need vpn for some videos

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thonk

06:35

I mean don't come back

06:35

troll

lol

being racist against asians was kinda almost normalized when i was in elementary school

Always :((

like the "chinese japanese this is what they did to me" thing was a haha! good one! joke

I think it gets better with ages. Kids are dumb anyway.

i mean like obviously nobody cares at the face value but in some cases it can kinda bias ppls opinions later on

Uni was okay for me at least.

feelsbadman

I can't imagine a 20yo decent human being that can't hide their 12yo mind in front of asians.

There are people who is just brain damaged

usa is so polarized

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u go on twitter and ppl cancel u for saying a slur u didnt even know existed

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and then like u go to alabama and

Well I only go to twitter for porn

greenthing

06:42

wtf why twitter

06:42

ok nvm

Idk

twitter best porn

06:42

Wtf

u guys are weird

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06:43

Cow porn

no

8)

lol

We have cancel culture in china as well

06:43

Don't know if it is influenced or do we just have that as well (edited)

06:44

Only noticed it for the past year.

??? Whaaa

Although for different reasons than usa, mostly taiwan related.

ezcept its done by the government

Is it tho

06:47

realsmiley

do most chinese align with china over taiwan

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and hong kong etc

Probably. I definitely know people just hate seeing taiwan flag

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But they don't usually have a problem with hk flag

also how good are the chinese alternatives to google stuff

Haven't used any of them for years

06:50

But like do you mean the search engine or the whole cloud service, storage, email and such.

yea

nouis

Wdym yea

06:51

did u finish kenzo

yes

borh

06:51

borh

acqwerty rq then i finish

both*

06:51

nice

Borh

fone typing is so bad

Chinese search engines aren't very good but google isn't good at searching chinese terms as well.

06:52

I stop search chinese since college. You just can't find anything useful

06:53

We don't have companies that provides proper cloud storage. Most cloud storage in china are abused for content sharing and can't keep up their bandwidth cost. (edited)

06:54

So they are either dead or have poor service quality. Well, paid ones are still pretty good in china tho. (edited)

06:55

Server stuff is expensive in china.

06:55

yee

06:56

well i feeel like paid services are generally decent quality

But chinese apps are usually filled with ads and splash screen even if you pay for their service

qth thats evil

06:57

ads are the worst thing

thonk

06:58

So I don't usually use them

ok maybe not

06:58

but if u have a paid version and ads still exist that sux

I guess the problem is that they don't have a paid version. Is the same version with maybe speedcap removed or something

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Nvm just checked, you can removed splash ads if you payed for some of them

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Guess I never paid for any to know

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oh lol

07:00

i kinda realize now almost all things on the internet has some sort of ads

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except stuff like discord where they just yoink ur data instead

Wtf I wanted to record some examples then they are not that bad again

they know

07:02

Also chinese apps likes to throw every info at you in one page

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Which is kinda stupid

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I might doxx myself

yeah

07:13

wow, i can see sone similarities in the art/design stule of chinese vs korean apps

never used any korean app

and ye lol im sometimes paranoid i will dox myself w hen i do smth onlibe

I don't really care tbh

07:14

I feel like it is relatively safe to doxx yourself in china somehow

i wouldnt but some ppl would probably be asses about it

07:15

the internet is weird

Ye

07:15

But like did we seriously copied koreans app design as well

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sweatsmile

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Even some chinese food delivery app in the us uses the same layout

07:18

I guess it kinda makes you feel like home, but at the same time make you ask why.

no reason to change it i guess

I guess

07:20

Also chinese apps have this mentality of you should do everything in our app. It's like everybody want to be monopolistic and failed.

like they try to capitalize on the whole market or something

You know wechat right

07:24

You can order food with it. You can check your corona exposure in there. You can pay with it like apple pay. Even some government service or registration or license application can be done in wechat.

07:26

Speaking of ordering food. I forgot to eat.

07:26

It's like 3pm already

07:27

cirBlech

just realize discord really needs a better CJK font

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@noby ban

@noby ban noby

thanks google

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13:41

huh?

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Try using DeepL

13:43

but like you'd think google should at least be able to do a single word

13:44

ok DeepL kinda failed too

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13:44

i guess for words you still need dictionaries.

I wish DeepL had Arabic, I wouldn't have to rely on Google Translate, then.

It’s astonishing the amount of characters in chinese/japanese, I wonder how the unicode ppl chose what to include

in the beginning is pretty easy i suppose, just take what are available in regional encoding already.

13:54

my mom works at school, sometimes there are parents who have name that does not type digitally at all.

Isn’t there like around 40k chinese characters including characters rarely used, variations etc?

13:55

Maybe even more given the history of china

@heinrich5991 both easter and chinese new year depend on lunar calendars, so yeah

well most of the characters are rarely used

Everyone says you need around 2500 to be able to read common stuff

i think there are cases where we find out some of the rare character exists only because some random poet write it wrong once.

Learath2

Everyone says you need around 2500 to be able to read common stuff

that's probably true

Heh, that’s the issue with these kinds of characters. No official alphabet

i think unicode tried to use radicals only before. since that is technically how we (chinese) write basically.

No way radicals ever work, the characters would look wrong

ye that's the problem

There are so many different ways a single radical can appear

i'm slowly losing the ability to construct a character in my head. (hand writing)

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if i see one i know then i know

牛and 告 come to mind, same radical different look different stroke orders

they even took different amount of space

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although 牛 is basically 告's radical tbh

TsFreddie

i'm slowly losing the ability to construct a character in my head. (hand writing)

This is all practice I guess. But stroke orders are mostly insanity

i'm a fixing my stroke orders slowly since switching to a sound-shape based ime

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if i get the order wrong i can't type it

TsFreddie

although 牛 is basically 告's radical tbh

@TsFreddie well yes but that radical can appear normally too e.g. 牧

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That appears normal but has a different stroke order

well, 一 is not the same as ㇀ for us

Ah, I guess it’s something the japanese simplified while taking your alphabet

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So those would be different radicals in chinese?

they are the same

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but we don't use radicals to think about stroke orders

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㇀ has a intense feeling of raising a stroke which usually come in last

Thank God I didn't have to learn these kinda languages, this is all so insane.

Ah, that’s a nice way to think about it

A different letter for a different word, that is such a bad idea.

I know the stroke orders to the radicals, and I keep a database of exceptions in my head instead

while 一 is nice and smooth, so 丨is taking the job of impaling the rest for impact.

Not sure if it’ll scale well to 5x the amount of characters I keep in mind, we’ll see ;P

i'm kinda spitting none sense here, but i think it works like that because i was taught to feel it that way a little bit.

@Deleted User disconnecting how words are written to how they are read is indeed a little bit of insanity

in elementary school

But arabic is one beast of a language. I think the script being so cursive makes it impossible to learn for most anyone

i can't even tell each letter apart (edited)

Eh, cursive is fine for me.

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It makes writing faster.

The ottoman empire had a literacy rate of around 8% ditching the arabic script skyrocketed it to 70% in a matter of 5-6 years

btw how do you learn kanji. do you just memorize them by redical and remember the stroke again?

TsFreddie

i'm kinda spitting none sense here, but i think it works like that because i was taught to feel it that way a little bit.

These characters are not systematically constructed, I think it makes sense that there are things like this

does japanese has kanji that looks like 这 and 超。

TsFreddie

btw how do you learn kanji. do you just memorize them by redical and remember the stroke again?

I have a keyword for every radical and I have a keyword for every kanji. I construct a story that includes the radicals keywords which reminds me of the kanjis keyword. Then I make a note in mind if the stroke order is irregular

that's hard

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sounds tedious

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i heard japanese themselves aren't guaranteed to be good at kanjis as well.

I don’t quite see a better way to keep 2500 kanji in mind

TsFreddie

does japanese has kanji that looks like 这 and 超。

It could I don’t know these yet but I know the radicals to them

for 这 you write 文 first then 辶

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for 超 you write 走 first then 召

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it is stupid

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for no good reason i feel like

Yep, there is no rule to hanzi/kanji

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I mean there are general guidelines, you are never certain unless you actually know the stroke order

ok i googled it.

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辶 looks too simple so 文 dominate it to be top and bottom structure where 文 is on top

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走 is more dense which make the kanji more left and right

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for some reason

右 and 左 have different stroke orders for the top part. This is so subtle I missed it when I first learned the kanji

i just see them enough to know

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never thought about them lol

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oh wait you mean stroke order

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we write 一 first then 丿 across always

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not sure why japanese changed it (edited)

Are you sure? I thought so too ;P

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The longer stroke is the second one in japanese when writing that radical

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Stroke order difference between chinese and japanese also boggles my mind

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田 simplest example that comes to mind

lol

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i can't even think how it is written on top of my head

Learath2

Are you sure? I thought so too ;P

I checked it’s sane in chinese, the japanese just decided it’d be cooler this way

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14:24

ok 冂 first then 十 then close it

In jp it’s 冂丨一 then close (edited)

wait they put the middle 一 last?

Well obv there was one more stroke there but typing on the ipad is so hard

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Nah the last stroke closes

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十would be written the other way around

i see

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i think most people now don't care about stroke orders

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including me

Chinese handwriting recognition isn’t too bad on the ipad though, so that’s a plus

i feel like i should but i don't really

TsFreddie

i think most people now don't care about stroke orders

Handwriting IMEs care

really

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i thought you can just draw it...

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if I shape type only i would probably care more about it

Some let you, some I think use a lookup table going off of strokes

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It’s actually quite an impressive feat of computer vision

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I mean it was, until everyone came around and just AI’d the problem

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Machine Learning gang

I suck at ML

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can't understand it at all

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it doesn't do things I think it would do.

It’s machines that learn, what is there not to understand? ;P

i got C for most of ML courses

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nouis

I don’t have any ML courses because european universities are training computer engineers to work on ww2 artillery computers

ghosty

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i thought it would be fun then it wasn't

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and i hate ML now

ML gets too mathy too quick

~~and i'm even an asian~~ (edited)

If you don’t enjoy linear algebra, you won’t enjoy ml

TsFreddie

~~and i'm even an asian~~ (edited)

Stereotypegang

linear algebra is okay

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ml feels different. or i just forgot most of it. or the courses are more advance than what i know.

Well ml is the art of minimizing a k-dimensional error function

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The rest is mostly details

details

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I haven't updated my input method dictionary for a while. just had trouble typing someone's discord name.

I am slacking off, wasting time here to avoid studying. I’ll take my leave. Cya

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That might be one of the most deeply nested characters I’ve ever seen

you haven't seen the latest unicode inclusion yet

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TsFreddie

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23 strokes or sth?

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Wtf are these, jeez

a type of noodle

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regional stuff

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only one provence really use them

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but it is currently in use

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and common too

That’s easily 50 strokes there

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More like an art piece than a character

the sound is unique too

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i don't even have the sound mapped to my input method

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biang

Oh biang biang mian is really popular in the US because of that shop in NYC

ye

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that's the character

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for biang

Very easy to make too, I approve

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The character is harder to write than making the noodle

true

14:49

is there any platform to host telegram bots for free?

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python scripts

@TsFreddie idk. you don't have a server where you could put it on?

i did but i stopped paying for them other than the one ddnet chn one

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and you can't access telegram in china :(

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same for chinese servers (edited)

eh

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How long does it take for eggs to go bad?

Around 2 weeks

17:07

Well it depends on the egg tho, there are white and brown eggs

17:07

White usually take less time to go bad

it says a lot about society

monkalaugh

@heinrich5991 https://tokio.rs/blog/2020-12-tokio-1-0

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POGGIES

kogsux

@Ryozuki sounds good

I haven't used tokio for anything yet, all my stuff is manually async or synchronous

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Leaked pics of @murpi 's family

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murpi kinda drunk

monkalaugh

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