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Between 2020-12-13 00:00:00Z and 2020-12-14 00:00:00Z

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3406 Recreate kill messages if required

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--undef...

would you say this looks dangerous str_copy(m_aFilename, "", sizeof(m_aFilename));

why not m_aFilename[0]=0

well its already in the code

00:13

just found it while looking through a pr

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i wonder if its even doing smth

00:21

guess it does what it should

00:21

just looks strange

@deen under debian openctm-tools also uses pnglite xD

[ddnet-libs:pr-libpng] 1 new commit

4e80eb1 Add libpng for Jupeyy (untested) - def-

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[ddnet/ddnet-libs] New branch created: pr-libpng

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[ddnet/ddnet-libs] Pull request opened: #15 Add libpng for Jupeyy (untested)

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[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit

916cd44 Add libpng build - def-

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@ChillerDragon

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rlly

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guess it does what it should

waste of a call, tho I'd imagine the compiler inlines str_copy very aggressively

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3407 Add libpng, remove pnglite

Current issues are: libpng16.dll.lib is missing libpng16.dll should be without "-16" the .dll is depending on a shared zlib library (zlib1.so) so either static link it into the libpng or we remove zlib from external too in the includes "pnglibconf.h" is missing Haven't tested it heavily yet, only tested if dilate and DDNet-Client still work

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with poss...

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

cdc2244 M Bomb Raid 2, A Pyramids, M entanglement - ddnet-maps

Is there FNG2 mod for Windows?

not precompiled if thats what u try to ask

07:44

https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod/tree/fng_06

Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod

FNG mod for teeworlds, that advances the original FNG idea by golden spikes and other features - Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod

07:44

also added cmake support lately, but never tried mingw

Need developing?

i can pm you with a build if you want

07:52

else you need to add the cmake modules from ddnet in order to work for mingw to compile

is it team or solo?

@ciger just read the fng.cfg

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it explains almost everything

thanks

wat is that my code @fokkonaut? _:D

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https://github.com/DDnetPP/DDNetPP/blob/621969e0cfa6e6a205b6807a578678f17967af21/src/game/server/entities/character_dummymodes.cpp#L3470

DDNetPP/DDNetPP

Based on DDraceNetwork by deen & contributors (www.ddnet.tw) which is based on the great game teeworlds (www.teeworlds.com). - DDNetPP/DDNetPP

10:14

good stuff :D

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3125 Kill message names disappear when switching between fullscreen and windowed

10:19

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

bae42b9 Recreate kill messages if required - Jupeyy 79fb5dd Merge #3406 - bors[bot]

10:19

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3406 Recreate kill messages if required

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

cafd1a4 Allow windows resizing - Jupeyy 483e7b2 Merge #3403 - bors[bot]

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3403 Allow resizing on Windows too

Have any of you ever read a wikipedia arbcom case? It's fascinating how organized wikipedia is. It's like a court case

are you paid to collect donations for wikipedia? o.O

@Learath2 wikipedia is rly well organized and a good effort to provide knowledge to ppl

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yet ppl make fun of it all times

11:09

what a sad world

the fourth byte in the CTile struct used to represent tiles in the tiles/game/front layers is called m_Reserved and isn't used anywhere in the ddnet code

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though there are 5 ddnet maps where this byte is set at least once

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does anyone here know if there ever was a tool/client/editor/whatever that used that byte?

@Patiga heinrich is ur best bet

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i doubt anyone else knows xd

i use it in fng, but not from editor point

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at runtime only

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@Patiga what are you planing todo with it?

"types/brutal/maps/Indicud.map": Tiles layer (at index 6 in group 6) has an invalid tile: Unused byte of tile at x=300, y=449 isn't zero
"types/brutal/maps/Rogue World.map": Tiles layer (at index 7 in group 12) has an invalid tile: Unused byte of tile at x=112, y=396 isn't zero
"types/brutal/maps/Tropical Island.map": Tiles layer (at index 0 in group 6) has an invalid tile: Unused byte of tile at x=360, y=356 isn't zero
"types/dummy/maps/SpookyDrag.map": Game layer (at index 2 in group 6) has an invalid tile: Unused byte of tile at x=152, y=138 isn't zero
"types/insane/maps/New Generation.map": Tiles layer (at index 12 in group 7) has an invalid tile: Unused byte of tile at x=133, y=31 isn't zero

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oop sry irc

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its just that my map parser now errors on ddnet maps

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so i guess i repair the ddnet maps ^^

can't u ignore that byte

why would it error on a reserved byte?

since reserved means that it could be used in the future

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so it should be 0 for now

so thats why it shouldnt error

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future proof

hm

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i dont go that far with forwards compatibility

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i mean i might do that for this exact problem if it happens on too many maps

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but if there are few enough maps i would rather fix the maps

well maybe it was uninitialized for these maps in some editor version

@Patiga I would check old ddrace client

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It could be an artifact from the port to 0.6 which introduced a lot of changes

the repository ddnet is based on?

I think so ddrace/ddrace iirc

https://github.com/DDRace/teeworlds this one?

DDRace/teeworlds

DEPRECATED - Go to https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet instead! - DDRace/teeworlds

Yep

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I think we didn't ship a separate map conversion tool back then, so it should be part of the client if it ever was used

huh seems to be completely unused

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TIL you can do git log -Sm_Reserved to get all commits that change a line with that string

@Patiga not sure how the implementation was, but maybe we kept this byte uninitialized accidentally

interesting, I'm currently figuring out how many maps in the archive have this problem, the number seems to be below 100 though

~50 occurrences in the map archive

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i think with such a low number i would rather keep it as an error, fix the ddnet maps if that is okay

yes

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@Patiga you can send me the fixed maps

Go is easy to use: https://github.com/def-/adventofcode-2020/blob/master/day13a.go

Robert just went god mode

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what is that?

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2825

UI & Input Refactoring: implement text selection, implement tooltip...

Text selection and input Implement keyboard-based text selection for console, chat and editboxes. Implement mouse-based selection for editboxes. Basically does everything that #2521 does (paste, ...

oh, fancy

u can learn go in 1 day

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its rly ez

Hello everyone, where can I download the trainfng server. (fng server withh /spawn and /team commands).

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can't find

https://github.com/35niavlys/teeworlds-trainfng

35niavlys/teeworlds-trainfng

TrainFNG, a mod of Teeworlds. Contribute to 35niavlys/teeworlds-trainfng development by creating an account on GitHub.

heartw

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SpookyDrag seems to be a new map also the other map names sound new so i doubt it is a artifact fr from DDRace/teeworlds times

You know what would make me extremely happy? If spotify would stop breaking google cast every other day

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What level of incompetence is required to break something 5 times a week?

spotify mobile is so broken too

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i watch one of those dumb "watch this video and you won't have ads for 30 minutes" and it gives me ads 5 minutes later

Atleast we don’t get ads with spotify premium anymore, that was one annoying bug

@Learath2 I have a mac now

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Apparently mac can render ime cocoaview just fine on top of fullscreen games? (edited)

eeeeh sometimes, if it feels like it

Oh

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That's worse than not being able to at all

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realsmiley

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Oh well I can't find anything about ime for mac

There is no information for most anything about mac, your best bet is to form a company developing apps, become extremely popular so you can get enterprise support and ask apple

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Or reverse engineer appkit like I did

cirBlech

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I guess windows is at least somewhat ok in term of exposing data

There definitely is a way to get the data out of the IME

On mac?

Yep

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https://developer.apple.com/documentation/inputmethodkit?language=objc I spent a couple hours digging around here

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I think you just need to figure out what obscure or hidden api they are using to get a handle to the IMKServer

realsmiley

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Never done mac stuff before.

After you have a handle it's not too hard to get the candidates out. I gave up after 4-5 hours digging around in AppKit, but radare2 is sooo slow with a 30MB binary

@TsFreddie intel mac or arm mac?

Intel mac

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Is my 2017 macbook pro. My mom was using it before.

I should get an arm mac sometime

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They say the performance is quite great

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Though I doubt I'll ever have the money for one, Apple is always out of their minds with their pricing

Ye. Macbooks are pretty expensive tho. I don't think I'll get a new one any time soon.

Maybe I can trade in a kidney for a Macbook

realsmiley

contactless trade in, mail your kidney (edited)

16:32

This is funnier

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3408 /swap

Very useful command /swap [player] which allows you to swap characters of two players from the same team. Even in t0. Do not respawn tees, so there is no physics abuse. And it should go with some cooldown of course. A lot of cases to use. Swap parts in team when your teammate can't do it for long. Swap your dummy with real player if you're playing in t0 and there is impossible / hard dummy part Swap in teams already exists as /save, which is not comfortable to use. In t0 there is swap ...

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3408 /swap

I can't figure out how to start this server (need LAN sv_register 0) where is start file like a DDnet_server.exe https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod/tree/fng_06

Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod

FNG mod for teeworlds, that advances the original FNG idea by golden spikes and other features - Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod

you need to compile it yourself (edited)

so good, but what is needed for this and what order of actions can there be a guide?

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3409 Menu tabs animations

Cool menu tabs animations, please merge

@deen pls I need some help

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@Learath2 could also help

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I finally want to PR color picker (cool feature ofc) but the thing I stuck at is editboxes. I don't undestand how to use them

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I need an editboxes like in editor with all editor features supported. HEX editbox and Clamped Number editbox

@Between two reality readme.md has full tutorial, hasn't it? (edited)

I thought you wanted to say that DDNet has a documentaion on their code and nearly died out of laugh

lul

Editboxes explaination pleeeease

what don't you understand about them?

@Learath2 how to make them actually... I made a HEX editbox and convert value from it, but I need a way to create only allowed characters and set max length

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How can I do it?

uf, idk did you check how cinaera did it for the original color thing in editor?

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if not I would just check after every change and if the new character(s) aren't valid delete them

yo everybody, someone is pro in PHP xD ?

@Nagi01 {LAN} https://dontasktoask.com/

Don't ask to ask, just ask

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Well, nice DrawCircle()

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Who broke it?

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Worked perfectly before I've updated to ddnet-master

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ok, it somehow didn't clear the texture now, fixed

@gerdoe ohhh tnks

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

3ab5198 Add Gin - Learath2

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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

363d653 Add Mekrioz.' - Learath2

@Nagi01 {LAN} what do you need

Anyone have any experience working with massive datasets and visualising them?

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I want to extract audit data from the entire teehistorian archive but it gets MASSIVE, a couple of months I can just put in json and use very naive O(n) algorithms on but even that makes my website sloow

@Learath2 web?

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i see the fancy people use R for statistics stuff

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https://www.r-project.org/

Yep, I'm wondering how things like elasticsearch handle their massive datasets e.g.

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I obv can't make the user download almost a gb of raw data to display, so I need to either paginate or precalculate at the server

@Learath2 what exactly u want to visualize?

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and what would be an example for a search query

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u want to view X player run on x map?

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maybe build some kind of index

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idk tho im not an expert

I have moderator actions

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I want to visualize them over the "calendar" sort of like github does for your commit activity

and ur current aproach is?

I bundle the entire activity log and use js to filter/query it

maybe u can extract data from AUTH_LOGIN to AUTH_LOGOUT

O(n) filtering, O(n) lookup

js

pepe_straight

Actually I think I can make the dataset much much much smaller so I can visualize for now

filter AUTH_LOGIN TO AUTH_LOGOUT and strip everything that isnt a CONSOLE_COMMAND(-10) ?

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xd

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idk

Still want to know if anyone has any ideas working with these kinds of things though. Do you do processing on the server? How much do you send the client?

i doubt anyone sends 1gb of data to a client

Despite what you think I'm obviously not retarded

monkalaugh

That is why I'm asking how people usually work with these datasets

ddnet already works with a kinda big dataset doesnt it? ranks teamranks and the website

that's true, we put it in a database where we can easily have indexes and we pre calculate wherever possible

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We don't do much visualisation though

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pepe_straight

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lags a bit when u select 6 months or more tho

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xd

too much data i guess

Is there anything I've promised to do but haven't yet? I've already wasted most of this day, might aswell waste the rest

@deen could you give me teehistorian archives?

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Do you save inputs of player who did not finish map?

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Probably not ...

We save all inputs

why do you want full access?

@deen wanna parse them and find cheaters

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If you save all inouts, even when player did not finish it could show some interesting results

I could send you some random files for starters?

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or anything specific?

@deen Some files with same same exact starting input would be great

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also files with and without finish

How can I find exact starting input?

idk xD

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could be on some maps maybe

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but even maps when you need to hold keys will not let you have the same input as other

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because it needs to be frame perfect. Cuz you're still sending inputs from freeze

im curious how u will detect ppl who only do 1 run for their botted ranks

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u could try getting known botted ranks tho

still have no idea, but we at least could easily catch stupid cheaters (edited)

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and some other things

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no idea for 1try speedruns for now. BUT

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But if someone is doing 1try then its probably a cheater, must be checked. Especially when top5-10

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@deen if you have known botted teehistorian - that's perfect

@louis human inputs differ from machine inputs usually

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in subtle ways

replay bot is still human inputs

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