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Between 2020-12-12 00:00:00Z and 2020-12-13 00:00:00Z

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/784138080164249620 attempt 2

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Is teehistorian open to everyone? Can I download it?

no

01:50

actually maybe

01:50

but it shouldnt be

Why? I need it now

for what

~~Replay bot~~

You mean the teehistorian recorder? it's part of ddnet, open source like all other parts of ddnet

Sorah

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/784138080164249620 attempt 2

Ah I know why this went unnoticed. Only like 2 people know how the automapper even works

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3400 Automapper update issue

[8:24 PM] Sorah: the autoupdate for automappers is bugged if you change the Seed to 1 and click on "A" and try to do draw something or try to drag the number higher the client crashes which it didnt before ofc but only on new files on older maps it works fine

I have no idea how this thing works, I don't even know how to actually use the autoupdater so someone else will need to take a look.

I've found the auto-automapper pretty much useless and it tends to crash and burn with more complicated big automappers, if it doesn't crash the game completely it comes up with some gibberish tiles. I guess it works fine only with things like grass main

Huh I thought it was supposed to be pretty decent

it seems to crash when you use the little known NoLayerCopy command which changes how the automapper works to a great advantage

if you find an easy way to reproduce the crash please create a github issue

04:12

all crashes are bugs

I think not a single automapper using this command has worked with seed/auto so it should be easy to reproduce (edited)

yeah it crashed when i tried grass_main

then I guess it doesn't even work with grass main bluestripe

bluestripe

um, antiping seems to be awful

04:16

how do you play with it

when i click A it just crashes instantly

oh

04:18

I've had a lot of issues with antiping also, it plays pretty smoothly but here's not a single day without seeing some weapon freak out and with tune zones it's just a mess

antiping best feature

04:18

solution: dont use bad tune zones

then I still get flashing guns and such

um can you try playing on china with antiping?

04:19

I can't do the noob blocker because of how bad it is to even move

04:19

I'm alone it should be predicting perfectly

then its probably not antiping related

I've always used it to just smooth out the little delays on my already decent connection, usa server ~120 ping is already terrible

@Learath2 I meant teehistorian archives

04:47

Open it to public if it's not already

04:48

Then I could test some anticheat parsing algorythms

04:49

As well as it would be ez bite for cheaters who could use it for any way to reproduce inputs since its tooo ez to parse, catch and permaban

04:49

Clear ddnet community

no ppl can set up replays on lan

04:49

i think there could be a selection of trehist files used for testing

Doesn't matter for teehistorian files

but full database access is bad, i think u can probs get permission if ur making anticheat tho

04:50

i think it does matter? how does it not

Why is that bad

full databae access for anyone is bad

So yeah, I got your opinion, but why

ppl will use demos to just learn all skips of a map and how to do it

That makes the point, yes...

04:51

But we had a little discuss about that

04:51

04:51

Is that even bad?

yed

04:52

yes

Encourage people to try speedrun when they can see how pro does it (or in case of n9 - bots it)

its not like viewing an r1 demo will empower them

That's somwwhat hard topic to discuss, but yeah, you got the point

yea well im still against it

04:53

also if someone only does 1x set of movement on official server how can u detect it

It makes entering into speedruns much easier, which is great, but lets pro speedrunners see all the skips other pros found

yeah which is bad

04:55

also maps like brainduck become moderate 3*

But as another good reason: people will watch replays of other people playing

04:55

So they could report it when there is somwthing weird happening

04:55

Oh yeah... Puzzle maps ofc

idk its hard to make it work imo

04:56

cuz ppl can just post to youtube tbh

Btw

04:57

There is no way right now to convert teehistorian into demo

04:57

As far as I know

theres on

04:57

there is

Oh, cool then

04:58

Anyway... I wanna parse archives and try to find something interesting

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3401 add dummy_copy and dummy_hammer hud viz

It's just text for now, I'm too lazy to make it a graphic. Someone else can do that in another commit. !Screenshot_2020-12-11_23-33-44

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3402 Move PNG loading in SkinDL to fetch thread (fixes #3398)

Sorry for the trouble, seems to work.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[x] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[x] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[x] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.c...

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3392 Add /top5team s?i command to show all team ranks of a player

11:51

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

037bac8 Add /top5team s?i command to show all team ranks of a player - Zwelf 13762aa Merge #3392 - bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3403 Allow resizing on Windows too

I actually wanted to fix the grabbing issue on Windows, but sadly couldn't fix it, while trying to fix it, i fixed the resizing stuff tho(tested with a vm on win10 and win7), also gfx_resizable 1 should be fine now with KDE too(couldn't reproduce that blackscreen bug anymore) Tho I also want to share some things about the grabbing thing, maybe someone is interested in improving it: I found out that disabling the console on windows and creating the window as fast as possible reduces the gr...

ChillerDragon: what was ur desktop environment again? you also had trouble with gfx_resizable if i remember it correctly

yes

14:30

i had it on gnome

14:31

i think i still have it

ok bcs i changed behaviour of it in #3403

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/3403

Allow resizing on Windows too by Jupeyy · Pull Request #3403 · ddne...

I actually wanted to fix the grabbing issue on Windows, but sadly couldn't fix it, while trying to fix it, i fixed the resizing stuff tho(tested with a vm on win10 and win7), also gfx_resiz...

i just wonder if that fixes that, but it still could be a bug in gnome

fix gnome then :p

15:02

ima test later if i dont forget it. Can you ping @ChillerDragon in the issue then i get a mail :)

15:03

eh pr* not issue

i wonder why there is no crypto hype anywhere isnt BTC near all time high

cuz everyone who did it wrong lost their money

18:41

they don't want to do it again then :)

18:41

(about crypto-nobos)

Zig feels a bit awkward to use, standard library seems lacking: https://github.com/def-/adventofcode-2020/blob/master/day12a.zig

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3404 Veto doesn't work after joining dummy

Konsti writes:

When u are on a server and already got veto u lose it when connecting ur dummy until u disconnect dummy, makes no sense for me

Learath2:

for veto we should probably check both players and determine whether the ip has a veto

aPESXMas_Hacker

aPESXMas_Hacker

aPESXMas_Hacker

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #3405 Keep veto right after joining dummy with lower ID (fixes #3404)

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/kbsywg/cyberpunk_2077_used_an_intel_c_compiler_which/

20:23

i wonder if its true

20:23

@Learath2 do u have a amd gpu?

20:23

this might be why it doesnt use full cpu

20:24

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nah, I'm surprised the icc is biased this way

this is a ilegal practice right?

not sure if it's illegal, but it's definitely scummy

lol hexediting the game to gain fps boost

20:24

thats nice :D

https://github.com/jimenezrick/patch-AuthenticAMD

jimenezrick/patch-AuthenticAMD

Utility to patch binaries generated by the Intel C++ Compiler to get the maximum performance on AMD CPUs - jimenezrick/patch-AuthenticAMD

i wonder how many totally non tech gamers followed this random reddit post and feel super hacker now

[quakenet] ChillerDragon

thats nice :D

not nice

20:25

its ridiculous

yea sure

intel should be ashamed

its bad and all

20:25

but that he posted a fix is cool

Saw a similar hack for horizon zero dawn to get a "smoother experience" hex edit a byte here, similar post with 0 context

lemme post something adding a backdoor :D

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20:26

well the post has context

20:26

and sources

i link the same sources

@Learath2 is the icc better than other compilers? why would u use it?

nobody reads sources anyways

icc optimizes better for intel

pepe_straight

They change this

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20:29

to this

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20:29

just one instruction change

20:30

negating the jump

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When are corporations taking over anyway? :/

20:34

Amazon has enough money to form the Amazon Party and take over the american goverment

POGGIES

20:34

why havent they done so

20:34

i guess they dont need to

20:34

they pay 0 taxes

20:34

anyway

A guy in turkey tried that, he was so close to winning that they exiled him

lol what

wat a guy in turkey tried to buy the goverment? :D

20:41

life goals

20:42

bois if you invest in bitcoin now you can buy any goverment in 2022 :D

20:42

oh congraz for launching ur web thing ryo

20:43

11h ago im late to the party

20:43

i would be 1st stargazer but i cant read rust :D

lol it has nothing yet

20:44

u rly stalk pepe_straight

pepe_straight

He formed a party used his insane amounts of money to market his party and almost won the election

21:09

donald trump of turkey

good thing it cannot occur here in France

why not? campaign finance laws? or do you just tax the rich so much that there are no more rich ppl? :d

campaign finance laws + time on tv/radio is controlle

21:10

d

21:11

they cannot spend more than around 25 millions i think, or something like that

in turkey time on tv and radio was controlled too, but only a minimum and no one wanted to show this guy, so he bought his own tv channel

and each tv/radio channel has to broadcast proportionnal time to representation in the last election

21:12

but if you got 5% or more votes, you are reimbursed by the state, hence the strict control and the limit

I wish we had a modern democracy that's not completely corrupt too

right now, Nicolas Sarkozy, former french president is on trial for frauding his campaign finances in 2007 (edited)

Donald Trump of france? Or just a populist that had corporate backing?

16 851 000 € max

21:16

nah, he potentially got money from Lybia hence the fraud

21:16

Kadhafi sent money or not, that's what the trial must decide

21:17

if he did, then the counts were falsified to hide it, if not, then probably no falsification occurred

that's very illegal in turkey, foreign funds are not allowed to be used in elections at all

@Ryozuki https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/kbsywg/cyberpunk_2077_used_an_intel_c_compiler_which/gfknein/?context=3

pepe_straight

Whats the command to kill lan server from terminal on debian again

22:45

justatest

ctrl c

killall DDNet-Server

@deen wanna add libpng to the ddnetlibs repo?

23:52

then i'll implement it later

@Deleted User sure, I can do that

23:53

libpnglite seems not to be used by anyone except Teeworlds, which is not ideal

thats funny xd

23:53

but libpng is not alot harder anyway

23:54

it just has more control about what todo if u got 16bit images and stuff like that

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