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57d6a84 M Space & Time 2 - ddnet-maps

@heinrich5991 do we already have a CI check for variable naming?

@Ryozuki no, due to too many wrong variables names

11:19

we could introduce a check that it can only decrease I guess

11:19

@deen splitting the debug info after the fact might require less tooling

@heinrich5991 any idea how to do it on Linux + Windows?

another article https://edgarluque.com/blog/code-conventions-in-ddnet yoo

Code conventions in DDraceNetwork | Edgar Luque

The code conventions enforced by DDraceNetwork.

@Ryozuki no rss/atom feed?

I have to make it

11:56

My blog looks same but before it was made with python scripts now its full rust

11:56

So i gotta make a a atom generator in rust

11:56

So your blog generation takes 0.1 s instead of 0.5 s now thanks to Rust?

It's also memory safe coffee

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Well before it was a fully static web, now its backed with a db

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I plan on adding comments and stuff

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It uses only 12mb of ram according to systemd

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memory safe isn't really interesting for a static site generator, no?

12:03

but for an internet facing website, maybe

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but there's a lot more to dynamic website protection

12:03

waiting for the XSS to roll in

Yeah

Python is also memory safe

oh true, that also

Is it also thread safe?

yes

It's easy to be memory safe when you don't care about absolute performance, like Python and other scripting langauges

I guess

java is also memory/thread safe

is it threadsafe?

(not a scripting language)

It just takes the whole ram

12:05

No more ram to leak

12:05

memleaks are considered safe in rust

Python has the GIL, so using multiple threads is barely possible

only if all the threads wait for IO or call C functions that release the GIL

Yeah i read a article about that

https://wiki.python.org/moin/GlobalInterpreterLock

In CPython, the global interpreter lock, or GIL, is a mutex that protects access to Python objects, preventing multiple threads from executing Python bytecodes at once. The GIL prevents race conditions and ensures thread safety.

mem::forget

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Python powers django

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Used by a lot

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I think instagram uses django

https://info.ddnet.tw/info?name=deen is also created with Python and I'm not worried about performance. Always < 10 ms and that's all spent in the database anyway

it's just generating one list, right? ^^

Yes

Well i used rust cuz i enjoy it and find it fun, i also learn, my blog will never have a traffic that makes rust speed matter anyway

never say never

Chile server is running with emergency power generator, electricity has been cut off for some reason

At least they're prepared, not the first time they had such issues:

The autonomy of the Generator is 27 hours with the current load and we can recharge hot fuel to continue for up to 12 days if necessary.

oof

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue reopened: #3269 Failure in move_sqlite.py

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3269 Failure in move_sqlite.py

Hot fuel refill sounds dangerous. Watch the next update on the situation being they burned down the dc and we lost all data

oh, they say hot fuel refill

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otherwise they could turn a generator off, refuel it, start it again and then go to the next generator

heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #3366 Make /save /load save the entire game world

Including weak/strong order, projectiles, etc. If we do still need a way to change weak/strong, provide it as a separate command. This would fix stuff like what happened on the new Putt Putt map.

Dont touch strong weak

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue reopened: #3269 Failure in move_sqlite.py

@bajojajo wdym? is that just a random non-constructive reaction by someone who heard weak/strong?

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this smells like a sockpuppet to me tbh

maybe it's about strong/weak changing

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

f83d528 Fix vector constructor impl & remove useless operator - Jupeyy b8fca40 Merge #3340 - bors[bot]

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bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3340 Fix vec_base constructors & remove useless operator

@heinrich5991 there are maps to require save and change strong weak to even finish the maps

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

f523a22 Add benchmarking section to README - def- 8167d5d Merge #3352 - bors[bot]

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bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3352 Add benchmarking section to README

@bajojajo check the issue

17:27

If we do still need a way to change weak/strong, provide it as a separate command.

Yea im saying we need :)

ok, fine

17:27

can you give at least one example?

Nope cuz those maps are mostly noname oldschools

wait. any map finished in team0 can't fall into this category

theres one part on pentamine which makes the part 100x easier if u have strong

Yup

cus u have to drag other thru some speeders, but if u have weak u need to do like some crazy shotgun bounce to add force

And on complex maps like justice, binary strong weak change is really needed

im sure there arent too many cases tho

It mostly hurts hard complex insane maps

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Where strong weak change alot

hard complex insane oldschool?

Insane insane

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Binary, justice1, justice2

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Well binary has /spec, but u get the point

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Players need a way to change strong weak

whose sockpuppet are you btw?

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are you circumventing a ban?

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your account raises all the red flags

Whats a sockpuppet

pretending to be someone else because you don't want to identify your main account or are banned on this server

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with your main account

Im Wrzosik

kk

:banhammer:

bajojajo

Dont touch strong weak

ill touch it

is there a reason to not have unfreeze in the switch layer ? and please dont excuse it with not being used much

will not being used

18:32

lets add 100 useless features

add switchable envelopes too plz

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and sound triggers

not possible with vanilla

do people still play on vanilla greenthing

we even made 0.7 compat lately

i dont understand how it wouldn't work for vanillaaa

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wouldn't that mean synchronized animations/sounds in general wouldn't work

synchronized animations are implemented in vanilla

yes please just let go of vanilla. especially after the steam release. i want para x-y for layers not only groups. i want clipping with para and placeable like tiles

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i want para less than 1

wait would sounds be ok with vanilla tho?

no

18:39

sounds are only in ddnet

oh

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cant we just add cool features and just make vanilla have some low-detail version of maps

ye ok never mind it keep being retarded i found a work around anyway...

@Sorah in general: not being used much is a good argument against a feature: there would be better things to spend time on. a feature isn't a one-time cost either, it has to maintained going forward

18:59

@Im 'corneum some stats on amount of vanilla players would be nice. if there are only a few ones playing, we could maybe drop it

cant you just take a look on the version numbers every now and then?

idk, if you know how to do it, tell me the commands to run on the logs

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I just wanted to check if there's something simple

when i was mod a few years back i could see everybodys version number on the server

ah yea, but that doesn't give you the statistics for a whole day

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I guess you could check multimap or so

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I'll try going through the logs of today

@Im 'corneum I count 10,000 players with 0.6 clients and 1,000 players with 0.7 clients

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I guess at least the 1,000 with 0.7 clients likely don't have the ddnet client, about 9% of our player base

what a bunch of fools angry

some might be on fclient

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i guess we got more 0.7 when ddnet allowed 0.7 clients to join

0.7 is best

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maybe 0.7 community on ddrace isn't quite high

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but gctf and zcatch community is active

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also vanilla

it's at 9%, quite high IMO

yeah 9% is a lot

well one day it should happen. maybe give them a loooong warning

but from those 9% maybe 0.5% is using modded client

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like fclient or zillywoods

I'd also guess that few players on 0.7 use modded clients

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but please don't make up percentages

ye that 0.5% was rather a guess

in future ddnet will have three folders of maps

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maps6 maps maps7

if ddnet would move to 0.8

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would it still have backwards compatibility?

no

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we'd have to add it

Though now that we know the differences well, it would be implemented more quickly

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3344 Implement /roll to get a random number

dang i think /roll would be good feature

seems very out of place

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maybe if you made more of these and added them all at once feelsamazingman

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #3341 Check finish of team after player joins spectators

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bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

9d66c25 Check finish of team after player joins spectators - def- 6eb56ff Merge #3341 - bors[bot]

suggesting: ddnet

place an option flag_unk

to choice what the skin jaouis

, for players see it poggers

if them no have my skin frozen

( choice the default skin)

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you can put whatever you want as your skins/default.png in your config direcotry

what

when other player will use skin that you dont have downloaded

heinrich5991

you can put whatever you want as your skins/default.png in your config direcotry

this looks hard!

you wont see it

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you will see it as default

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so his suggestion is to be able to change default to something other

yeah i want choing default

ye

suggestion ddnet

don't

use so many emojis

when you write messages

️ because it makes

what you write nobot

hard to read

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XD

nouis

ok anyway i use or not emojis my english so bad

now those are just brainlet vojak memes intw

(edited)

21:08

okay maybe i shouldnt spam in developer lmao

i want put (redboppenom) or anyothert skin (use it like default)

do you know where your config directory is? (where settings_ddnet.cfg is)

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@Souly

ew

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irc mode

not

i will say this again by way correct mmm

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.

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suggestion ddnet

i want put option to change the default skin ( for select how players see my skin if i play with skin not official on DDNet)

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just open the config directory

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add a skin folder, put any default in

hmm

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like this?

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no change name not work bluekitty

i dunno, enable file extensions in windows settings(search the internet how)

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then you can name it default.png

this still not work

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in folder for skins right?

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or there other folder for fefault alone?

should be default.png but in game folder

idk

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i have two folders for the game (edited)

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one have all skins and other if i want put any skin on the game

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this work after i put in other folder

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see two folder

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folder :ddnet have all skins ddnet (edited)

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and if i put anyskin should be put on teeworlds folder

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idk why

replace in data/skins

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or in config directory/skins

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or both

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to be safe (edited)

yeah i want stay safe